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March 04, 2014, 06:57:36 PM
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Lightning Asic 1 TH/s Miner:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=473416.0




Dragon 1 T Miner:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485497.0




JingTian or JT Miner:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470386.0




Well at least the JT Miner is a whole different form factor.  The Lightning and Dragon Miners look almost exactly the same.  All 3 have very similiar specs, all made in from China, and seem to be launching around the same time.

Are these just the same chips but in different boxes, or are they all very different? Someone want to clue me in?

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March 04, 2014, 07:33:22 PM
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Good question.

All of these products look good and are on my radar, but the price is still a bit too high and the risk of getting scammed also seems fairly high at the moment.
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March 04, 2014, 09:03:01 PM
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yea I found the top one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-New-1TH-1000GH-Bitcoin-Miner-28NM-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-Includes-Power-Supply-/161237914904?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item258a875518

but just can not find enough information about it. As much as I would love 1TH i just can not bring myself to take the risk.

Second one seems identical and might lend some weight to rumours that there are copies / clones of these getting ready to hit the market.

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March 04, 2014, 09:16:47 PM
Last edit: March 04, 2014, 09:31:58 PM by Gator-hex
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yea I found the top one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-New-1TH-1000GH-Bitcoin-Miner-28NM-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-Includes-Power-Supply-/161237914904?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item258a875518

but just can not find enough information about it. As much as I would love 1TH i just can not bring myself to take the risk.

Second one seems identical and might lend some weight to rumours that there are copies / clones of these getting ready to hit the market.

Yikes! £4,499.99 = $7496 USD!

I believe lketc is the original source of the Dragon Miner and the Chinese are selling it at a huge mark-up to naive Westerners!

http://www.lketc.com/goods/show-197.aspx

1TH/880W = 19999 Yuan = $3255 USD

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March 05, 2014, 02:14:36 AM
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All using stolen CoinCraft A1 chips.

If you check the news http://bitmine.ch/?page_id=863, you should know bitmine is just in co-operation with some Chinese company. They just bought the chip from the Chinese company and name it as "Coincraft A1" chip. The Chinese company can also sell the A1 chip. They can call it any name they want like "ABC A1" chip. So the question comes: Does the "Coincraft A1" chip means "A1" chip?I don't think so. This is something like Mcdonalds can make their hamburger and KFC can make their own too.

We do NOT buy chips from bitmine and have no business with them.


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Designed from scratch, Bitmine’s Coincraft A1 is a third generation Bitcoin Mining IC developed by Bitmine in co-operation with a team of expert engineers from Innosilicon.

Doesn't say bitmine bought the chip from a Chinese company.

I'm assuming that the R&D funds came from bitmine and it's customers and that Innosilicon was contracted by bitmine for R&D, ergo, bitmine retains IP rights of the A1 chip. Unless the use of the A1 chip in these Chinese 28nm miners has been authorised by bitmine, what we're seeing here is corporate theft and entities being in possession of or receiving these miners, liable for a criminal offence.

Precisely, we are the owner of the IP inside the A1 chip and the major contributor to the know-how of the inner workings that led to its development. We are aware of things like the one happening here and we even made a press release news concerning this matter:

http://bitmine.ch/?p=5178

Whoever purchases these does that on its own risk and may be liable in its own country since we hold IP on that.

Yes, that's China.
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March 05, 2014, 03:03:32 AM
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JTminer is different from others with new design and not in the oversea market now. Still wait for reviews to come out in 1-2 weeks and after that order will be accepted. Please check my post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470386.0

Thanks.

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