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Hi there
I two or three days I won't have any merit left. I am not asking for more merit here.
But i think that after some time users should get a new bunch of merit that can be sent. They dont have to count for the ranking up or dont have to be displayed.
Because I will miss a forum feature very soon.
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That's what merit sources are for. If everyone got fresh sMerits, there would be no reason to even have the merit system since people would be sending it to their alts or selling it. Merit sources are presumably responsible, and that's why they took on the task of giving merits to members who deserve it. That's why not everyone can be a merit source. That's why you have to apply to be one. But users that most of the time just "chat" wont get any merit. Dont say chatting = spamming. There can be a big difference.
I don't even understand what you're trying to say here. This is why you're on my ignore list.
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But users that most of the time just "chat" wont get any merit. Dont say chatting = spamming. There can be a big difference.
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But users that most of the time just "chat" wont get any merit. Dont say chatting = spamming. There can be a big difference.
I would suggest you to focus on earning some merits. This will get you 1:1/2 ratio sMerits. You can also apply for a merit source if you want to. Just some friendly suggestions by the way.
That's why you have to apply to be one.
I assume TP is suggesting the same.
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September 03, 2018, 10:54:55 PM |
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... Because I will miss a forum feature very soon. ...
If you're here primarily to "chat" (which I take as posting mostly for social interaction or for the sake of it) then why would you need such feature in the first place? You don't need smerits to chat.
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September 03, 2018, 11:37:02 PM |
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But users that most of the time just "chat" wont get any merit. Dont say chatting = spamming. There can be a big difference.
You can also apply for a merit source if you want to. Agree for you to become merit source. We are in need of more merit source and if you are active and diligent enough to look for posts worthy of merit then go and apply for being a merit source - this will greatly help the community.
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September 04, 2018, 12:39:19 AM |
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That's a really bad idea OP as it will defeat the entire purpose of Merit System. Abusers and spammers will surely rejoice if your idea was applied. I also ran out of sMerits few days ago but if I were you I will try to make good posts instead of making horrible suggestion like this which will only result to a never-ending Merit abuse. If you want to get sMerits, well your only choice is either to apply and get accepted as a Merit Source or try to make quality posts like everybody else were doing and trying, then you'll receive Merits for sure.
Are you aware that only spammers and abusers will suggest such an idea?
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Honesly, I don't understand @vlom's ideas in the thread, too. However, it's interesting to see rare situation when a Ledgendary member added to Ignore List of another Ledgendary member. But users that most of the time just "chat" wont get any merit. Dont say chatting = spamming. There can be a big difference.
I don't even understand what you're trying to say here. This is why you're on my ignore list.
If your suggestion really implemented, the merit system and current rank requirements will be destroyed due to merit distribution abusements. I don't think forum users will support your ideas (of course, except spammers), and @Theymos will never implement it. Automatically distributed merits for specific period of time. It also means that forum users won't have to contribute anything to the forum, wait patiently for a while before getting new merits and new sMerits, it will not make any difference with old rank system which only focuses on activity counts. But i think that after some time users should get a new bunch of merit that can be sent. They dont have to count for the ranking up or dont have to be displayed.
That's the point. Merits and sMerits only worthy for ranking up. Real contributors will not pay their attention on Merits and sMerits. They will mainly focus on their ideas when composing threads, when joining disucssions, when help others with their unique ideas (only sometimes), helpful ideas (most of the time). You don't need smerits to chat.
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September 04, 2018, 02:52:09 AM |
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They dont have to count for the ranking up or dont have to be displayed.
I'm guessing you are looking for something more along the lines of a "like" button. This is not really a merit issue more a forum feature you would like to see. I doubt it's something Admins would concern themselves with implementing, but in the meantime you could just tell the user you like their post, or PM them. But users that most of the time just "chat" wont get any merit. Dont say chatting = spamming. There can be a big difference.
I can agree that in some instances a nice chat can turn into a good discussion. This should be done in the appropriate sections and remain on-topic. You may also feel you do not receive merit because members in some areas do not bother themselves with merit distribution. If you feel you are meriting a forgotten section of users, then by all means apply to become a source. This covers how to apply
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September 04, 2018, 04:14:21 AM |
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That's a really bad idea OP as it will defeat the entire purpose of Merit System. Abusers and spammers will surely rejoice if your idea was applied. I also ran out of sMerits few days ago but if I were you I will try to make good posts instead of making horrible suggestion like this which will only result to a never-ending Merit abuse. If you want to get sMerits, well your only choice is either to apply and get accepted as a Merit Source or try to make quality posts like everybody else were doing and trying, then you'll receive Merits for sure.
Are you aware that only spammers and abusers will suggest such an idea?
im aggre with your opinion, the merit system make this coomunity because it will be reduce the spammer from this forum, imagine if no merit there just a post counted to be next rank, surelly there will be a person who post a 100 post per days, and will be to many legendary or hero there, hahaha. im aggre 100% with your opinion sir, SALUTE-
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September 04, 2018, 06:06:00 AM |
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But i think that after some time users should get a new bunch of merit that can be sent. They dont have to count for the ranking up or dont have to be displayed. I think you're talking about the previously discussed topic of dMerits (delegate merits) invented by Jet Cash or am I missing something here? However, it's interesting to see rare situation when a Ledgendary member added to Ignore List of another Ledgendary member. Adding a member to your ignore list is nothing to do with their rank. However, if a member was ignored by another member doesn't mean anything that others should follow the crowd. The decision of ignoring a member is dependent on that particular member only. But we can get an idea about that member if she/he is already in a ignore list of reputable forum members like @The Pharmacist ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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At first, when the system was implemented, I thought the same as OP, but soon after I realized it would not be a good idea. I still would like to have more merits to send, so at some point I may apply to be a merit source. Jet Cash's idea is very good as well but the problem is, it is another great idea that won’t get implemented or it will take ages.
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September 04, 2018, 08:05:27 AM |
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Hi there
I two or three days I won't have any merit left. I am not asking for more merit here.
But i think that after some time users should get a new bunch of merit that can be sent. They dont have to count for the ranking up or dont have to be displayed.
Because I will miss a forum feature very soon.
OP, that's the whole idea of the merit system. After some time, all the initial merit users received would have been depleted and only the merit sources would get more merit to distribute among the members which deserve them. You will also get sMerit if you receive merit from someone else. For example, if you get 10 merits from somebody, you'll have 5 sMerits to send to other users. I agree it has become increasingly hard to receive merit (users doing good quality posts do not receive merit anymore - Has the Merit faucet dried up? Solutions? ), if this is where you're trying to go with your question, but you're an established member and may apply to be a merit source. Take a look at this: [...] You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.
Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention. [...]
If you want to be a merit source:
1. Be a somewhat established member. 2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully. 3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.
I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.
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September 04, 2018, 04:55:49 PM |
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But users that most of the time just "chat" wont get any merit. Dont say chatting = spamming. There can be a big difference.
I actually agree with you that chatting is not spamming but not all chats are constructive enough to generate merits. You have a good deal of experience, might be you can create some good topics .(Look like JetCash always in search of it). He is also trying to figure out for some challenge in which he can award some 50 merits to Hero member, might be you can team up with him to lay the foundation of the challenge and help the community and yourself to earn some decent merits.
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It will be a bad change if everyone can regenerate merits even if it is just by a little bit, for one account farmers who have dozens of accounts can will thrive in this change and obviously take advantage of this feature and they maybe have the power to rank each other up without needing the merits of other people. If the merits of regular users are being played out now there will be more abuse if this happens which I really don't want to happen here in the forum. They won't even effort anymore to write a good post since they know everyone can regenerate merits now.
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September 04, 2018, 05:16:44 PM |
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But users that most of the time just "chat" wont get any merit. Dont say chatting = spamming. There can be a big difference.
man you need to take a good hard look at yourself and re read this post. if it still makes sense to you, then you should leave this forum for ever.
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September 04, 2018, 06:46:59 PM |
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thank you. i think you got it. I'm guessing you are looking for something more along the lines of a "like" button.
i never thought about it this way. maybe i have to rethink my understanding of the merit system. thank you for reading what i wrote and not just answer "this is not what merits .......".
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September 05, 2018, 02:03:28 AM |
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Unless regular sMerit refill is very low (1-3 sMerit/month, depends on rank with Full Member/higher as minimum requirement), your idea would be abused easily and there's almost no point of merit source.
I don't think your suggestion is a good one. It might lead to massive abusements on merit system and current rank requirements. Slowly automatic distributed merits based on ranks will not make any sense in terms of controlling spamming endemics in the forum. It might only delay the pace of ranking up a bit slower, but I believe that if the new distributional mechanism of merits implemented, it will allow spammers ranking up much faster than current ones. In a nutshell, I don't support your suggestion.
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September 05, 2018, 04:37:15 AM |
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But users that most of the time just "chat" wont get any merit. Dont say chatting = spamming. There can be a big difference.
If you can tell a big difference on chatting and spamming, could you tell the different between a great post which deserve merit and bad post which is not? If you can, then make an application to be a merit source by finding 10 undermeritted good posts. At least you can be a merit source for your local board. But once again, only if you can tell the difference of great and bad post.
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September 05, 2018, 05:52:54 AM |
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Unless regular sMerit refill is very low (1-3 sMerit/month, depends on rank with Full Member/higher as minimum requirement), your idea would be abused easily and there's almost no point of merit source.
If the merits can refill after every cycle then there is no point on having the merit system,but now we can see not all the good posts got merited so the number of merit sources need to be increased and need to have separate merit amount as per the board according to the active users for that respective board,then all the good posters can get merited the rest will stay forever!
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