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September 04, 2018, 10:46:47 AM
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I created a separate topic, because this problem has nothing to do with money, it's about culture of "business" - classical "Russian Business".

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1307188 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2286031
Reference Link: https://changenow.io/ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4619534.0
Additional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user.



(1) Misleading

This "company" openly accuses me of forging documents:



I want to ask you what you imagine when you hear the phrase "document forgery"?

I think that when most people read this, they represent the fact that I took the passport, re-stitched the photo, changed the pages and so on. Such activities are criminal in any country and are punishable by imprisonment.
And this "company" is consciously trying to show to all people that I'm such a criminal.


But what really happened? I opened a Google images and sent them something like this:

There was no form in which I submitted my name, I did not even send my name by e-mail. I just sent the jpg file.

Let me remind you, I did not send it to Bank of America, nor to Bitrex, or even to the ShapeShift.
I sent this to a little-known anonymous website (without the phone, addresses and team's names) which for a long time advertised itself as an anonymous exchanger: https://www.google.com/search?q=changenow+anonymous
Also I want to remind you that from the very beginning I suspected that this is a Russian exchanger(because of support guy Sergey) and then all this was confirmed (for unregistered users)

Do you understand this manipulation? I did not forge documents, I sent a jpg file to them. I sent it because I did not respect this illegal group of persons from Russia and I did not take them seriously. And I did everything right, because all my assumptions were confirmed later.



(2) Defamation

This "company" sends out personal messages to users and secretly spreads lies.

Hello! We have just noticed that you have left negative trust feedback in our Trust ratings section.

We love the crypto community a lot and think that everyone in it should join forces to fight scammer. Alas, all companies working on the cryptomarket sooner or later run into scammers sometimes. Unfortunately, it is our turn now. The customer who sent us fake documents twice (ni23457) is now on a crusade to make our work as difficult as possible.
He's well aware that he's been caught forging documents and that his case is being investigated and now is trying his hardest to soil our reputation with the help of an army of paid shills, bots and fake reviews.
We feel really sorry for our customers and followers who have to trample through tons of libel produced by this person.
Nevertheless, we, being sure that we're in the right here, are determined to continue our investigation with regards to this person and are preparing an official plea to the legal authorities. We will keep anyone in the community who is interested updated with regards to the situation.

You can see more of our official position in the thread you've linked to as reference.

Considering all this, could you please remove the negative feedback?

I received this message from Changenow...

As you can see, they try to explain to the user that I'm a scammer. It seems that they are afraid to talk about it openly, but they do not restrain themselves in private messages.
They again try to convince him that I am engaged in forging documents (a serious criminal offense).
They even tell him that I did it 2 times. But this is not true. The second time 100% true photos of the passport and selfie were sent in excellent quality and resolution. They never told me that they do not like these photos. They were silent until July 19. That day I said that I know who they are and where they are and only after that they started talking about video verification. After this day they ignore all my letters. They have not responded to me for a month and a half.



(3) Abuses

The "company" has hired people(at least 1 man) who rudely spoil all the discussions about ChangeNOW.

last posts of matej krkic
last posts of crazy_elky
last posts of Vizefog
last posts of Reddit Andy_Cooper

I'm sure that all these accounts belong to one person, because the message style is the same. Nobody will create dozens of messages daily for free.


As you can see, these accounts constantly accuse me of stolen money.
Why did you steal bitcoins?
If you look at these pictures, you will understand that I have answered this many times, but they do not need an answer. They need to continue to spoil the discussion.




Someone might say that I also hired people. Yes (but not on bitcointalk). But all they do is just spread the information from this topic. They write about the fact that this "company" stole money and it's true. Because they are not a bank, they are not a legal company, it's just a group of Russian people. And if this group of people appropriates another's property and does not return it for two months, then this is theft.

And the second. What I(an individual, just a user) can afford, a self-respecting company can not afford. Millions of people can write nasty things about Apple and Microsoft, but Apple and Microsoft will never write nasty things about an individual.



(4) Threats

I registered a new mailbox 2 months ago  when that problem occurred. It was a mailbox in which all the letters were from this exchanger only.
As I said, they have not sent me anything for a month and a half.

And a week ago, when the situation became particularly heated, I received several letters from an address I did not know.

These letters mentioned some name and a region in which the exchange was started. That is, it could only be the one to whom customer data is available (IP address of user who started the exchange).
This man wanted to threaten me. But I have nothing to fear, because I have everything by law and I have enough money to protect myself from any criminals.

It is impossible to give you any proof, because even if I give you a login-password from my email, there will always be someone who will say that I myself sent those letters.





Can you imagine that some company from States or Europe would do something like that?
Maybe Bittrex or ShapeShift?


The problem is that these companies operate within the law of the country in which they are located. They can never leave themselves an extra dollar. Because sooner or later the state can ask them about the legitimacy of appropriating this dollar.
Therefore, these companies will never lie, hire trolls, send strange letters. They do not make sense to arrange these performances because they still can not keep this money to themselves in the end.


But these Russian businessmen understand the reality differently. Just their logic is different. They believe that the paper of an offshore company, bought for $ 1000, from the dirtiest and cheapest offshore zone(Belize) will allow them to do whatever they want. And thanks to lawlessness and disorder in Russia, they can hope that all the money blocked by them will eventually remain with them.
1. create the impression of an anonymous exchanger https://www.google.com/search?q=changenow+anonymous
2. demand documents from each large deposit
3. 9 will send documents. 1 refuses
4. profit
Unfortunately for you, the residents of the States and Europe, this high-yielding scheme does not work. If you leave this money to yourself, then you can go to prison.



Related links:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4619534.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4647308.0
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8wsgir/changenowio_scam_fraudsters_have_stolen_100_bch/

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September 04, 2018, 11:11:53 AM
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Why didn't you mention the info about your second attempt of document forgery? =)
Scammers such scammers

Yes, I made a mistake that at the very beginning I sent a picture with someone's passport from google.images (but I sent the picture just to the fameless anonymous guys with no real address, company name or even phone number: they can be anyone, even gangsters). But then I still sent the real documents and now I wait 10 days from the moment of sending documents, and they say that they are conducting an investigation.
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September 04, 2018, 11:21:18 AM
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ni23457, I still want to hear from you, why you write this shit every day? What is your problem? Why do not you just go KYC, like thousands of people do? Instead, you fill the forum with garbage, blaming everyone who disagrees with you, on working Changenow.

What are you hiding? Are you the only one person who has a BTC?

Yes, I think you are a fraud. You not only sent fake documents, now you are engaged in blackmail. People of forum, remember how often you started hearing about this problem lately. Think about why. This guy writes shit wherever possible. I do not like it, so I follow this story.
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September 04, 2018, 12:58:04 PM
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ni23457, I still want to hear from you, why you write this shit every day? What is your problem? Why do not you just go KYC, like thousands of people do? Instead, you fill the forum with garbage, blaming everyone who disagrees with you, on working Changenow.

What are you hiding? Are you the only one person who has a BTC?

Yes, I think you are a fraud. You not only sent fake documents, now you are engaged in blackmail. People of forum, remember how often you started hearing about this problem lately. Think about why. This guy writes shit wherever possible. I do not like it, so I follow this story.
This is exactly the question I want to ask. Why not provide KYC? To know that 100BCH is a very large amount.
I think you should provide your wallet address and transaction HX to prove this transaction, and explain why you refused to provide KYC, otherwise the evidence you listed is not sufficient.
As for ChangeNOW.io, I don't know what website it is, of course, once I see this website I will be cautious in the future.

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September 04, 2018, 01:27:25 PM
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This is exactly the question I want to ask. Why not provide KYC? To know that 100BCH is a very large amount.

When I asked myself this question, I did not find an answer. The amount is really big, but there are red flags.

ni23457 says that he confused Changelly and ChangeNOW, but how? Imagine that you are changing the 100BCH. You will be very attentive!

Further, he says that he did not take it seriously, and sent the picture from Google. You would have done so, risking 100BCH. This is the main thing that ni23457 tries not to mention, accusing the exchange that caught it.

Where is the transaction? Where is his wallet? There is nothing! He writes on the forum the same thing, spreads this lie on the Internet, but the problem is easy to solve - KYC! That's all!

If you're curious to find out how ni23457 is blackmailing changenow, read here It is interesting.
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September 07, 2018, 07:34:16 PM
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@ni23457

How much have you paid on Bitcointalk for the adverts?

We owe you a great thanks for bringing your experiences to our attention. Thanks to your excellent work so many people will avoid using that changenow website.

SCAM ALERT ┤                                            || ADAB 'HARAAM' EXCHANGE || Adab exchange scammers are willing to accept ICO funding from the following and more: prostitutes, porn actors, those currently behind bars in prison serving prison sentences, those that sell drugs/narcotics, those that manufacture test and sell weapons, those that own publications online/print media cursing Muslims and those that have anti-Muslim agenda, those that own transport or sell alcohol or own breweries AVOID ADAB 'HARAAM' EXCHANGE
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September 10, 2018, 01:16:15 PM
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@changenow

Stop this pathetic conduct. In the end regardless of what the OP did or what you did the status quo suits you because you are the one holding 110 BCH that does not belong to you. Why are you copying the same Medium post here?

In your 1+ year of entering this business how many others have you done the same thing to? Why ask for ID after you receive the funds? If the amount was too big to exchange without AML/KYC your automated system should have given a JS pop up alert or any alert at the same time as the address was generated so the customer could have made an informed choice.

I fully support the OP in this matter. If you are a bonafide business why are you behaving like scammers? Others including myself believe this to be selective scamming where you allow many of the trades to go through without hassle but decide to select a few large trades to try to scam. In this case the OP gave you all the negative publicity you deserve. Full credit to him for spending even more money on paid ads to inform us all about your business.

To resolve this situation you should return the 110 BCH to the same address you received it from. Please do it, thank you.

SCAM ALERT ┤                                            || ADAB 'HARAAM' EXCHANGE || Adab exchange scammers are willing to accept ICO funding from the following and more: prostitutes, porn actors, those currently behind bars in prison serving prison sentences, those that sell drugs/narcotics, those that manufacture test and sell weapons, those that own publications online/print media cursing Muslims and those that have anti-Muslim agenda, those that own transport or sell alcohol or own breweries AVOID ADAB 'HARAAM' EXCHANGE
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September 11, 2018, 12:35:47 AM
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ChangeNOW.io’s Public Statement: Our Stance on AML/KYC

The client in question is surely going to continue his activities on the Internet.

We, in turn, are preparing legal claims which we are going to submit to Interpol, Europol, and other authorities, along with the info we have on the client and the cold wallet address on which the funds are kept for the time being. After that we are going to wait for their official reply. In no circumstances are we going to keep this user’s funds for ourselves.

ChangeNOW is going to keep the community updated on the situation because we stand for all things that are good and against all things that are bad.



What a big load of BS. Give the money back to the OP.
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September 26, 2018, 02:04:28 PM
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good team with bright future

The last 5 years I had practically no relations with cryptocurrencies. I was very far from this world.

I was very angry when I heard news that Google and Facebook had forbidden advertising related to crypto.

I thought it was a conspiracy and these companies hate cryptocurrency for it superiority over them.

But now I'm starting to understand these companies a little.

I see in this forum that this new sphere of economy has become an excellent springboard for many dishonest people who in other spheres would never have been able to realize their dishonest inclinations.

These freaks have learned to perfectly manage such gullible and not quite understanding people
>good team with bright future.
As you can see, this bounty hunter simply advertises for tokens, which price is actually zero. He does not even read what this topic is about. He will simply add a link to his post in the bounty spreadsheet and will get $0.001 for this work.

I see that the number of users of this forum has doubled in the past year. I do not think that the number of people like theymos has doubled. I think that the number of people like akbcrypto increased by NN times.

So this section just makes me vomit.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0 Bounties (Altcoins)
I think the slogan of this section should be "good team with bright future". This phrase describes 99% of everything that is born there.
I just imagine how much stupid shit spreads on the internet from there. And thanks to this, many dishonest people build their business.

I'm not saying that bounty campaigns are an absolute evil. In fact, I do not see any solution here. I just want people to be smarter.

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September 26, 2018, 03:08:47 PM
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The last 5 years I had practically no relations with cryptocurrencies. I was very far from this world.

Why this lie? You claimed that you have changed hundreds of BTCs with Changelly?

At the same time, I was a customer of Changelly and have whitelisted account there and exchanged hundreds of bitcoins in recent months without any kind of KYC.

I already wrote to you about NOW tokens

Man, I do not understand your problem. You wanted to sell NOW, I gave you a link, what else do you want? Have you seen the situation on the crypt market? Shity marcet. Is this the only project that delays listing? I'll tell you one more - Qurrex.

«In view of the above, and in order not to harm or destress the investment value of QRX token, we decided to postpone the issue of listing QRX token on external exchanges for a period of up to 3 months.» Read here

They had to make it in August, but now they also moved the listing to December. Write a second thread about them! If you do not know how the crypt market works, you do not have the right to blame someone. You can report to the bountyhanters union.

P.S. You once again convinced me that you are paid by ni23457, so you write shit about this exchange.

These "accusations" are meaningless. If you think that some token, something is worth before the official listing, you're just a fool. And again, you insert a link to shit, to which, as you say, you have no relation. ni23457, I think you're a donkey who is himself to blame for his problem. Blaming the exchange, you are deceiving the forum community, because the main problem is that you wanted to exchange BTC anonymously, that is, remaining unknown. Who, if not an honest man, will strive for this?

Solving your problem is just passing KYC and getting your shit coins! But you're scared of KYC !! Fuck, you're really afraid of this! That's the problem! Donkey...
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October 12, 2018, 11:34:16 AM
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Good day to everyone concerned. I have some updates on the current situation.
Yesterday our legal team gave us the green light on issuing refunds to all our hanging KYC cases.
All our clients who wish not to submit their IDs for verification should contact our support anf confirm their dismissal of the KYC procedure. They will be issued a refund minus the network fee and their deposit address will be blacklisted.

You can read the full version of our statement here: https://medium.com/@changenow_io/changenow-updates-verification-cases-and-future-plans-cf04a2863168
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