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September 05, 2018, 02:29:19 PM
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Tsubuka, one of the cities in Japan was chosen by the Japanese government become a city of science, and a few days ago, the city government there conducted an experiment to implement a voting system with blockchain.
and the experiment was successful, the voting used identity card verification in a decentralized network typology.

this is an example that blockchain will become part of our lives. blockchain will have an important role now and in the future.

in my opinion, next is Venezuela that will create new innovations and changes in the crypto world.

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September 05, 2018, 03:00:11 PM
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That's actually a great idea. It should be implemented in all democratic  countries because I personally never trusted those who were counting the votes. Another great one from Japan.
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September 05, 2018, 03:05:49 PM
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n my opinion, next is Venezuela that will create new innovations and changes in the crypto world
Venezuela has much more important thing to take care
An economic crisis in a country is not what is pushing to use the blockchain tech to be used for elections. Countries with corruption, broken systems, frauds are more subject to be interested in, mainly because the results would be undeniable

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Transparency: In the today’s election scheme, no method of transparency can be offered to participants of the election. When an individual places his ballot in the box at his voting district, there is no guarantee from the scheme that his vote was counted and counted correctly. Any individual vote can be misplaced, counted incorrectly because of human error or simply because the party which the voter voted for could be disliked by the individual which counted the vote. This transparency is non-existent because no ballot has information on who casted aforementioned vote. To introduce transparency in the process of an election would require a new law which
would allow government officials to provide the services which allow such method of transparency
3) Voter privacy: In every pen and paper election scheme, voters privacy is a key element. The law forbids any individual or entity to be able to know from a single vote, who gave aforementioned vote. If such information could be gathered for each vote, such information could then leak to the public which would allow for listing every single individual who voted for a single party/candidate. To satisfy the privacy of each voter,
no individual vote should be traceable back to the voter.

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September 05, 2018, 03:11:33 PM
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This actually would bring total transparency during an election. But do you think people are ready? Do you think they will understand the technology required for voting? Are they actually ready or will end up hesitating to vote? Too many questions, one answer: They will need to be educated about the technology before these are implemented.


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September 05, 2018, 03:16:54 PM
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mainly because the results would be undeniable

Would they? what if the network is being controlled by the goverenment it self? 51% attack would be an easy way for them to manipulate the results... Unless they use a 3rd party blockchain like ethereum. There is nothing stopping them to manipulate the results.

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September 05, 2018, 03:22:20 PM
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Tsubuka, one of the cities in Japan was chosen by the Japanese government become a city of science, and a few days ago, the city government there conducted an experiment to implement a voting system with blockchain.
and the experiment was successful, the voting used identity card verification in a decentralized network typology.

this is an example that blockchain will become part of our lives. blockchain will have an important role now and in the future.

in my opinion, next is Venezuela that will create new innovations and changes in the crypto world.
I do not agree that Venezuela will be the next to take step because trading cryptos is banned there. In my opinion, Japan and Russia are gonna be the lead innovators in the cryptocurrency era because their projects have great platforms and it is backed up by strong teams and lots of funds. Nevertheless, these turn of events will lead to the revival of the market and will grant most of the holders the profit that they deserve.



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September 05, 2018, 03:26:40 PM
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mainly because the results would be undeniable

Would they? what if the network is being controlled by the goverenment it self? 51% attack would be an easy way for them to manipulate the results... Unless they use a 3rd party blockchain like ethereum. There is nothing stopping them to manipulate the results.

But could they manipulate it if it was verifiably decentralized and was open source? Of course, it would be way easier for a government to create a closed source permissioned blockchain, as that would give them way more control over their people... Generally, that is what governments want, more control. The 51% attack is a problem that would need to be solved, any blockchain used for voting probably would be very centralized, as there would be no incentive to maintain the ledger.

I really am unsure how this would work or how something like this could be successfully implemented. Is there any more information on what Japan did for this? Who maintained the blockchain? What was the incentive? What algo was it? So many questions.
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September 05, 2018, 03:30:04 PM
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Tsubuka, one of the cities in Japan was chosen by the Japanese government become a city of science, and a few days ago, the city government there conducted an experiment to implement a voting system with blockchain.
and the experiment was successful, the voting used identity card verification in a decentralized network typology.

this is an example that blockchain will become part of our lives. blockchain will have an important role now and in the future.

in my opinion, next is Venezuela that will create new innovations and changes in the crypto world.

Wouldn't it have been better if you had included the source of this news so everyone can verify and read more to know the very details which you have left out of your summary and also makes you not guilty of plagiarism.

One of the practical application of blockchain is during voting process which is something I have been looking forward to. All over the world, even the most advanced country, the issue of voting has been marred with several allegations of malpractices and hacking which has always cast some element of doubt in the entire process. This has made this problem a universal problem that needs to be solved using new technology and that is what blockchain will solve.

All this week, I have been reading abut trailblazing steps taken by Japan towards development of blockchain and if this continues, I see Japan taking the lead in the league of nations in the next decade as they will likely become the model everyone is looking up to.

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September 05, 2018, 03:34:55 PM
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Technology is good and offers new possibilities, but I still think the printed vote is the best option. You vote and a printed receipt is dropped in a closed box. If there are doubts about the final result, all the receipts will be counted again. Surely, these boxes will be closely watched all the time.

And everything that matters for Venezuela is to keep the dictator ruling the country, don't expect any innovation from their side, let alone transparency from their electoral system, well known by frauds.

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September 05, 2018, 04:10:02 PM
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https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-valley-declares-blockchain-voting-trial-a-success/

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Zug, a city in Switzerland known as the "Crypto Valley," has successfully completed its first test of a local blockchain-based voting system.

As CoinDesk reported on June 11, the Swiss city launched an e-voting pilot platform built on a blockchain as part of the city's efforts to embrace the technology. The voting process took place between June 25 and July 1, and stored both polling information and residents' IDs on the system.

SWI swissinfo.ch, a news outlet owned by the Swiss Broadcasting Corporation, reported on Monday that the city's head of communications, Dieter Müller, claimed that "the premiere was a success."

Following the positive results, Müller said that "technical details" of the voting process will be

So this so called blockchain based voting has been experimented by Zug and it was already reported as a success. Although the turn out is just small, this experiment proves the blockchain based voting might be the new standards specially around Europe in the next 5 years.

@OP, what made you think that Venezuela will create new innovations like blockchain base voting? On the contrary, Maduro will not implement this voting because its going to be hard for him to tamper it. Petro? LOL, it was reported that this is just pure imagination because there's no actual investors and those $700 Million he reported is nothing to be found.

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September 05, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
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Exactly blockchain doesn't servers any purpose if its used in a centralized way. What I would like to see is smart contracts being run on a public controlled blockchain. That IMO will be a true "Free and Fair" election. Something like Ethereum where power isn't distributed to a few but rather to many. If they don't, it's just like replacing the current database with a newer one. We are still very far from having 'Decentralized' elections. The governments are not ready to trust the people who are running the network, yet...

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September 05, 2018, 08:10:06 PM
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mainly because the results would be undeniable

Would they? what if the network is being controlled by the goverenment it self? 51% attack would be an easy way for them to manipulate the results... Unless they use a 3rd party blockchain like ethereum. There is nothing stopping them to manipulate the results.

The network would not be supposed to be controlled by a government or any other institution. One of the purposes of a decentralized ledger, is a consensus of replicated and sync'ed data spread across several participants, as you know.

Regarding a voting system, we could imagine for example citizens being the main participants of the network. After all, they are the most concerned. If citizens don't want to participate in the security of their data and the system then it's another thing. It's like refusing to vote but complaining about the current political system.

In fact, I don't find fair to see something else (entity, institution, govt.) than the citizens used to do it

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September 05, 2018, 08:24:28 PM
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Yes, here, that theme, which would be really interesting.
When I first heard about this technology, I immediately thought how interesting it would be to observe the elections ... it's just an ideal system that really will allow holding the most fair elections in the world. Yes ... the same democracy with the use of this technology could happen =) However, something tells me that we are unlikely to see this technology in state elections
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Exactly blockchain doesn't servers any purpose if it used in a centralized way. What I would like to see is smart contracts being run on a public controlled blockchain. The governments are not ready to trust the people who are running the network, yet...
I think it is better if you will rephrase your last sentence in the quote as governments not being ready for reform yet since they don't want to part with their corrupted voting system and is not ready for honest, manipulation free election. IMO, the thing you would like to see would not probably come to pass unless someone will decide to work for its implementation.
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September 05, 2018, 09:33:14 PM
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I think that's a very good idea, I do not trust others with manual works instead we will have 100% guarantee that the person has given the vote and no one others. Better feel saves a lot of time and money and eventually make things a lot faster I wish all the countries should try this thing out and they should also implement this kind of Technology in their voting system very soon.
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September 05, 2018, 09:51:30 PM
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Tsubuka, one of the cities in Japan was chosen by the Japanese government become a city of science, and a few days ago, the city government there conducted an experiment to implement a voting system with blockchain.
and the experiment was successful, the voting used identity card verification in a decentralized network typology.

this is an example that blockchain will become part of our lives. blockchain will have an important role now and in the future.

in my opinion, next is Venezuela that will create new innovations and changes in the crypto world.
I saw something related to this in Africa in late 2017, where a blockchain project (don't want to mention name) came to the voting unit to conduct some project experience.
They refused to publish the result they got from the voting because they were  invited by government of the country.
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September 05, 2018, 10:01:05 PM
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To my mind, they shouldn't be connected but i m not expert and can't say for sure what makes both of them special. As I think, it is better to use the blockchain now and not wait because it has many advantages

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mainly because the results would be undeniable

Would they? what if the network is being controlled by the goverenment it self? 51% attack would be an easy way for them to manipulate the results... Unless they use a 3rd party blockchain like ethereum. There is nothing stopping them to manipulate the results.

Knowing how the Japs operate, I don't think they have the guts to manipulate election results, or if ever the doubt arises regarding manipulation, I'm sure they already have a plan for anti-fraud in their elections. Sure that there always is the possibility for a 51% attack on a decentralized blockchain, but if the network itself is hidden and requires some credentials before being accessed, I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be any problems.

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September 06, 2018, 07:47:55 AM
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Tsubuka, one of the cities in Japan was chosen by the Japanese government become a city of science, and a few days ago, the city government there conducted an experiment to implement a voting system with blockchain.
and the experiment was successful, the voting used identity card verification in a decentralized network typology.

this is an example that blockchain will become part of our lives. blockchain will have an important role now and in the future.

in my opinion, next is Venezuela that will create new innovations and changes in the crypto world.
Do you have information on how the identity check was carried out? After all, this is important, honesty and openness of voting depend on it.

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September 06, 2018, 08:03:31 AM
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in my opinion, next is Venezuela that will create new innovations and changes in the crypto world.

don't compare Japan with Venezuela dude. the situation is completely different in these two countries. in Japan they have seen the potential of bitcoin and also the blockchain technology as both the decentralized currency and then the technology to use in other spaces.
but in Venezuela they have only seen the technology and how they can make profit by creating their own personal altcoin to make money. I doubt that this country really does anything innovative in the crypto-space.

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