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September 05, 2018, 09:15:16 PM
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Dear theymos, let us start to cross out some of the suggestions marked as OK in the community suggested changes which do not take a lot of effort from your side.

Let us start with this:

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• Dedicated sub board mods for most boards that don't have any mods or non-global mods already assigned (Bitcoin Discussion, Beginners & Help, Off Topic etc).

Let's cut the crap and strength to the point.

We need Mods for those sections / more sections could be added but those are most affected by spamers/:
 
- Bitcoin Discussion - no mod
- Project Development new
- Beginners & Help - MiningBuddy is offline since April.
- Economics - no mod
- Off Topic - no mod

Local sections :
- Indian
- French - they got a mod already
- Hrvatski (Croatian) new
- 한국어 (Korean) new
- Skandinavisk new


If you agree I'll make a list with volunteers for each section
where we can vote and you will pick the ones you like
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I know it will add more calculations for the taxation but we are also desperate to clean this place.
We have to start from somewhere and take it step-by-step.



My personal opinion is that there's not so much communication between you and the active crowd here /the valuable members/.

   sorry, I couldn't resist



Dear theymos,
The community want to interact with you, can you spare some time for us like, one/ two hours once in a month to discuss the all those hot topics in the forum?
I clearly understand that you are very busy man, and probably loosing motivation while facing more and more problems each day and this is completely normal. But big part of the crowd here feels left out with all those cries for help that are not heard /or at least not answered/. The community is here to help each other, right.
Please, don’t feel like you need to report to anyone, this request is not for that, it’s just to give a hope to the others that the things will change here, because people want change, even if it takes years.

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September 05, 2018, 09:37:16 PM
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I still don't understand why theymos is being like the One-person company. And he lives in the US.  Undecided

Why should there be trust issues for hiring accountants and professionals? Does it have anything to do with slickage not delivering the new forum as expected or what? And there are people here on this forum who wouldn't run away with a few hundred dollars.

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God have mercy on whoever gets the task of patrolling the off topic section.
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September 05, 2018, 10:27:53 PM
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The economics board is terrible too.

Almost all topics here are created by spammers for spammers.
Like this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3165456.0

What's he best cryptocurrency to invest?

More than 30 pages of spam


There are some good discussions that get lost very quickly.
I don't know how can this situation be controlled. I tried to report here, did about 100-200 reports there, which got deleted... But it's hard to fight against spam


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September 05, 2018, 10:29:54 PM
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I still don't understand why theymos is being like the One-person company. And he lives in the US.  Undecided

Why should there be trust issues for hiring accountants and professionals? Does it have anything to do with slickage not delivering the new forum as expected or what? And there are people here on this forum who wouldn't run away with a few hundred dollars.

Maybe it is a trust matters because handing a new man an authority to be near admin level means there is risk for some things, maybe like account security, etc, but i dont know for sure about that. Maybe, just maybe, hiring accountants and professionals means that Theymos must make this forum as a company and listed it under a law which stated bitcointalk is a company, and there can be more regulation incoming like tax, etc.

Correct me if i am wrong.


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I think it could have more moderators levels with different functions. For example:

It could have a ghost moderator who could just hide a certain topic or post. If anyone still wanted to read the content of that topic or post, he could still click on it. Thus the number of these moderators could be higher and the recruitment simpler. The hidden post could then be deleted or moved by a moderator with more powers if needed.
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September 06, 2018, 12:45:17 AM
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I can agree here, the demand for new mods is inevitable. The last weeks I've seen a lot of voluntary work like Spambot hunting or other ones like Merit abuse hunting or Plagiarism hunting.

This is very vital, contributes a lot to the forum and it's much better than without. However, such reported posts need to be reviewed and deleted if the accusation is proven right. This requires additional moderator time and I'm very sure if people here are engaged is using time for this voluntary work they would also take the time to do this in moderator position. About the rights of them because of trust issues I think there shoud be no problem because the most participants of these voluntary campaigns are trustworthy and I don't think they are using this new position to abuse it. It can be helpful to give them only the right to delete spam posts and ban Newbie / Jr. Member accounts if there should be doubts of trust.

But by doing so it's possible to reduce spam step by step, the Merit System was a beginning to stop ranking up for spam bots / good project-posters and new employments of additional 'limited' moderators would be the next step!
By introducing 'limited' moderators some of those voluntary members can delete the posts immediately if they notice some and ban or warn the users. This will save time and speed up the entire spam hunting.  Smiley

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September 06, 2018, 01:01:39 AM
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The altcoin subforum also needs more moderators. Everyone go there and try refreshing the page. The spam bumps are too much. If I start a new thread, it will be buried to the next page 1 minute after.

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September 06, 2018, 01:59:36 AM
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And let's not forget the Indian sub-board as well.

I mean come on! I come online to check whats new with Indian supreme court vs Bitcoin case and I get to see this??

A YouTuber girl looking for viewers and subscribers !! Huh
Like seriously?

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September 06, 2018, 02:04:22 AM
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If theymos can't or don't want to recruit new moderator, then theymos should do something else such as disabling signature on boards with lots of spammer to punish spammer.

I still don't understand why theymos is being like the One-person company. And he lives in the US.  Undecided

Why should there be trust issues for hiring accountants and professionals? Does it have anything to do with slickage not delivering the new forum as expected or what? And there are people here on this forum who wouldn't run away with a few hundred dollars.

Maybe it is a trust matters because handing a new man an authority to be near admin level means there is risk for some things, maybe like account security, etc, but i dont know for sure about that. Maybe, just maybe, hiring accountants and professionals means that Theymos must make this forum as a company and listed it under a law which stated bitcointalk is a company, and there can be more regulation incoming like tax, etc.

Correct me if i am wrong.

It's possible, but it can be avoided if theymos decide to pick people who want to volunteer instead. There's some people who actively combat spam and theymos could recruit them.

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September 06, 2018, 02:28:36 AM
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It's possible, but it can be avoided if theymos decide to pick people who want to volunteer instead. There's some people who actively combat spam and theymos could recruit them.
I think volunteerism is not enough to be appointed as a moderator. Some people only shows an act of volunteerism in order to gain reputation and later behaves like a scumbag. There should have a screening tool maybe when appointing a moderator just like becoming of a merit source.


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I still don't understand why theymos is being like the One-person company. And he lives in the US.  Undecided

Why should there be trust issues for hiring accountants and professionals? Does it have anything to do with slickage not delivering the new forum as expected or what? And there are people here on this forum who wouldn't run away with a few hundred dollars.

Maybe he has these issues on the past. That's why even if it's hard for him, he doesn't bother hiring other people for this tasks.
Anyways, what may be the reason, we are still in need of new moderators that must take place for those mods who aren't active.

We should treat theymos for a drink here , maybe after this he will definitely do something Grin

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September 06, 2018, 03:25:57 AM
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Real time and perfect suggestions. Especially about moderators. Really need replace moderators who are inactive from long time or add more moderators instead of replace. It's look some mod are on vacation mode those are inactive. Theymos , please wake up and consider that OP had mentioned.

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September 06, 2018, 06:41:36 AM
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If I get a positive answer here I'll take the responsibility to open a thread with list for volunteers for each section and theymos can decide later which one to pick.

We'll try to make it as lower effort as possible for theymos.

I'll include to the OP the local sections too.

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New moderators are needed but I don’t think we are focusing the right way. Moderators and mass reporting seem to me like trying to put out the fire with water from one side, while you know on the other side there is a guy fueling the fire with petrol.

The solution is not to throw more water, or to have more people throwing water, it is to kill the guy who is pouring petrol, or at least to take the petrol away from him.
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September 06, 2018, 07:03:12 AM
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Bitcointalk forum has been so much popular nowadays.  Where moderator of this forum play a great role to control each and every matter here. As my opinion when a forum member see any activities of forum moderators its influence him/her to work impressively. Honestly its a special feeling for me to see active moderators on forum.
so I believe we need more active moderators to make our forum much popular.

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September 06, 2018, 07:10:47 AM
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New moderators are needed but I don’t think we are focusing the right way. Moderators and mass reporting seem to me like trying to put out the fire with water from one side, while you know on the other side there is a guy fueling the fire with petrol.

The solution is not to throw more water, or to have more people throwing water, it is to kill the guy who is pouring petrol, or at least to take the petrol away from him.


I see you point but what I do is to start from the low effort tasks from the Community generated suggestions where not much of a coding and time is involved.

All the points listed with OK are possible to be implemented but we have to take it one by one. Everyone is complaining from theymos and nobody do anything /except a few guys here like h&co/ just sit and wait something to happen.

During my not so long experience with the life I've learned that If don't do anything there will never be changes, no matter if you live in democracy or tyranny it's the same.

I don't really want to be the black sheep here, always pushing for some changes, suggesting, etc. probably many people don't really like me already /that's their problem tho/ but I can't just sit and wait like /almost/ everyone else.

I'm not doing it for profit or any personal interests, only for the prosperity of the forum and because of the feeling of injustice for all those abusing the forum one way or another.

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September 06, 2018, 07:21:09 AM
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I'd like to help moderating the Economics section but I think theymos wants for moderators people who massively report, and I don’t. I’ve only reported 85 times in one year.
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Local sections :
- Indian
- French

The French section got a mod and things are starting to pick up now. All is not lost, yet Smiley

Check out this thread: Merit source application (French local board)
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September 06, 2018, 07:37:04 AM
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Local sections :
- Indian
- French

The French section got a mod and things are starting to pick up now. All is not lost, yet Smiley

Check out this thread: Merit source application (French local board)

Good to know, I didn't follow the case but I knew it was a problem few weeks ago, I'll cross out this one then.

If there are more problematic local borads I'll include them.

@Don Pedro, I'm not 100% sure that only the report score is important but maybe you are right. It's no problem to apply I guess, but first let's see if we get a feedback from theymos.

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