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It's very likely that those with the power to knock the BTC value have already been doing this, the market cap is definitely not so high that this cannot be done quite easily by a few whales. Even those making the regulations probably know their decisions will provide a quick profit or short opportunity and so manipulate the market for their own gain, it's human nature.
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September 12, 2018, 08:13:30 PM |
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Its a bit difficult to just lower the price of bitcoin. What mostly causes bitcoin prices to lower is when they spread fud news and people sell off. This is the way this market is been manipulated
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September 13, 2018, 02:34:10 PM |
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BTC is not easy to lower the price, now BTC is rising slightly and is the most potential coin on the market, maybe in a short time the price of BTC will go to moon
Why will you say it is not easy to lower the price, when certainly a lot of whales are in the market and as long as you will get to see a lot of people who have huge funds coming together in a speculative market, price manipulation is something that can easily be got ? Notwithstanding, it is part of every market as we will certainly see those with larger positions in a market making their own decisions based on market response and perception, and they simply are the ones we classified to as market makers, so they simply do exactly what they are called.
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September 13, 2018, 02:42:54 PM |
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every person or corporation that plays BTC prices must have $ that is quite a lot and is quick to do dumps, if they are a little late then the $ they use can really disappear like smoke because there are also many other players full of interests in the crypto market.
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September 13, 2018, 03:47:16 PM |
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However with all the debate approximately developing fees, this might come as a surprise. in the end, it wasn't see you later ago that prices had been so high a group of outstanding buyers and miners created a whole new edition of bitcoin in general to maintain expenses lower.
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September 13, 2018, 03:54:22 PM |
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once the people start to know the news trick i am sure no one can bring down the BTC down, that is why maturity is key to success of BTC and all crypto currencies
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Furious 7
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September 13, 2018, 05:13:45 PM |
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Some people even a certain group of organizations might do various ways to get a good price to make a purchase. in various wrong ways. spread issues involving various media. like the case of JP Morgan. they succeed because panic will spread quickly.
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ss890
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September 13, 2018, 05:56:29 PM |
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Why there won't be any companies like those who are going to be whales of this market and selling off badly to profit themselves? I guess there are or there might be some companies who might be laundering the money in that way so that they can benefit there organisation itself. Who would leave the chance to invest in a market which is completely driven by the decentralised nature? The prices currently are being driven by similar forces. There may not be the big entities but surely bug bag holders who are similar to institutions if they have got so much money in their accounts.
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Sereda_Rostislav
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September 13, 2018, 09:31:13 PM |
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Yes, it is easy to manipulate the bitcoine course. Because of 100% bitcoin only 10-20% is used for trading. The otasalnaya part - it's invistitsii.
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September 13, 2018, 10:52:05 PM |
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Why there won't be any companies like those who are going to be whales of this market and selling off badly to profit themselves? I guess there are or there might be some companies who might be laundering the money in that way so that they can benefit there organisation itself. Who would leave the chance to invest in a market which is completely driven by the decentralised nature? The prices currently are being driven by similar forces. There may not be the big entities but surely bug bag holders who are similar to institutions if they have got so much money in their accounts.
For those who were big whales they could really bring down the price of btc, because they actually have the funds to play day trading. They enjoyed it, but in a thing about hyped price that's their option to initiate bull run activities. Mainly it could make the price increase very fast and due to decentralized matter, it cannot be regulated.
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bitcoinrays
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September 15, 2018, 06:49:53 AM |
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Would we ever be able to see (know when) wealthy finance companies working together to buy and sell bitcoin (lower), deliberately throwing money away to lower the price? Add in the $ that's made from shorting the coins (btc & eth shorts have record highs), and they can minimize their losses. No regulation, collectively billions to throw towards the cause, makes for an easy way to manipulate the price downward. With no regulation (anyone can buy and sell any amount) and the majority of BTC trading volume being worthless (traders and bots running trying to buy and sell enough to make a few bucks), how much selling would it really take to continuously drop the price? There was a record breaking 10,000 BTC short placed earlier in the week, just before the recent selloff dropped the price. Who knew? The sellers Taking into account the $ made on the shorting btc and eth, does anyone know what it would take to continuously drive down the price? IMO, I don't think as much $ as people are thinking? Individuals can’t really do that, not even a group can do that. The only thing people can do is to pump the price of Bitcoin. And after the price has gotten high they can withdraw back their money to dump the price and make it fall again. That’s the only thing they can do, if you don’t have money in the Blockchain then they can’t do anything.
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Kiweikoo
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September 17, 2018, 11:41:54 AM |
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If big company will enter to this market definitely they are targeting on their profit.So we have to face them
How many of you will be facing them. Actually, what the big ones will be doing is to drive away weak hands from the market, drive it down enough to a point that seems realistic to them and then start buying in at that point as much as they can with all those weak hands coming back to join FOMO later on. Bringing down the price for those who have the money and funds to do so is something easy at least for a speculative market, as they buy the dips the create enough volume upward, and then market participation kicks in and then when it hits a stage where it starts getting weak and they feel there is no need to drive it further, they sell and the same process repeats itself backward.
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Painbird
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September 17, 2018, 02:17:27 PM |
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It can anything happen on market. It could go so high and even lower. But its almost easy to say the price almost stable. so its not so possible to bring it down. You can invest now if you have much cash.
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Marcel555
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September 17, 2018, 07:05:13 PM |
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The price if any digital currency can be manipulated by holders who control a large percentage of the entire volume (whales), they can lower or increase the price to suit their strategy. As a crypto inclined individual, this is not news. Play the game of the whales or you wait it out till the market becomes favourable.
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boy130
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September 17, 2018, 10:27:08 PM |
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Oh, yeah! It seems that the prices can be brought down so easily nowadays. The real struggle and current dilemma is how to bring it up again but we're no way near close enough to finding it out or are we?
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Kasabus
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September 17, 2018, 11:35:16 PM |
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Oh, yeah! It seems that the prices can be brought down so easily nowadays. The real struggle and current dilemma is how to bring it up again but we're no way near close enough to finding it out or are we?
We've got stabilize right now but the we all wanting, we want more to compensate our losses in the past days. There's a lot of crying babies out there seeking for bull runs came out, but it could be hard to see it now as there is no indications of wide growth for BTC on the market. And looking its market volume, it is only below $4bil which couldn't be enough to have some pumps.
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September 17, 2018, 11:43:20 PM |
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Bitcoin market is too big, it is not so easy to make BTC price down. You must own some mining farms to even start to buy/sell BTC in quantities. I think big corporations are only part of btc's discount. This year btc is hard to come by when bitmex is involved in price action on btc. Can not get up. Unless there is a huge news impact on the purchase of everyone.
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September 18, 2018, 01:03:40 AM |
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Oh, yeah! It seems that the prices can be brought down so easily nowadays. The real struggle and current dilemma is how to bring it up again but we're no way near close enough to finding it out or are we?
We've got stabilize right now but the we all wanting, we want more to compensate our losses in the past days. There's a lot of crying babies out there seeking for bull runs came out, but it could be hard to see it now as there is no indications of wide growth for BTC on the market. And looking its market volume, it is only below $4bil which couldn't be enough to have some pumps. easy or not, I think that depends on how much bitcoin you have. because for me it's very difficult, because I think of so many markets that have bitcoin. when you want to make bitcoin dump, you have to have lots of bitcoin in every market. yeah, but i think it will be very difficult.
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September 18, 2018, 02:12:30 AM |
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Would we ever be able to see (know when) wealthy finance companies working together to buy and sell bitcoin (lower), deliberately throwing money away to lower the price? Add in the $ that's made from shorting the coins (btc & eth shorts have record highs), and they can minimize their losses. No regulation, collectively billions to throw towards the cause, makes for an easy way to manipulate the price downward. With no regulation (anyone can buy and sell any amount) and the majority of BTC trading volume being worthless (traders and bots running trying to buy and sell enough to make a few bucks), how much selling would it really take to continuously drop the price? There was a record breaking 10,000 BTC short placed earlier in the week, just before the recent selloff dropped the price. Who knew? The sellers Taking into account the $ made on the shorting btc and eth, does anyone know what it would take to continuously drive down the price? IMO, I don't think as much $ as people are thinking? Actually, it can be difficult to know at any time the company, financial wealth, work together to buy and sell bitcoin (lower), the Current capitalization of BTC in particular and the electronic money market in general is still too small compared to other industries such as stock, forex, so susceptible to manipulation especially with respect to the company financial wealth. So now we are playing the game. Play their game due to their manipulation of the market.
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September 18, 2018, 02:14:53 AM |
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for someone like me it is very difficult to do, but not for big investors who have a lot of business networks, they can work together to drop the value of btc by making low transactions, so slowly the value of btc will surely fall, then they will buy more many of all people to create profits
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