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October 04, 2018, 07:45:18 AM
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In my opinion gambling is the mother of all crimes. When a gambler loses money in gambling, definitely he will become angry and will anger to get back his money and when he has no more money he will do illegal activities to get some money for gambling. This is a fact and I have seen many people doing this. Gradually they become professional criminals.
Okay, I think you are beginning to overstate things when you are saying gambling is the mother of all crimes, which means every crime that we see today, robbing, drugs, selling ammunition in the dark market and so on and so forth all evolved from gambling ? Oh please, in the past, crime may have been associated with casinos, but these days when casinos are getting license before they even operate, there are some things they just cannot do.

Now, shady deals depends on each individual and even in the absence of casino, there will still always be crime, so saying that gambling is the mother of all crimes which is just an activity that is even regulated in some places, is absurd.
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October 04, 2018, 11:40:29 AM
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For me gambling does not increase crime but rather increase addiction to some people who does not know how to handle it properly. When it comes to crime, for me the number 1 aspect is drugs next is poverty. I don't consider gambling unless it was also associated with drugs.
And where do you think a gambler's life lead? It's definitely leading to poverty since money is involved. Druggies only have to buy a dollar worth of drug and they are good to go. Gamblers, on the other hand, have you really seen a gambler lose one dollar in a casino and then move on? Drugs are far more cheaper than gambling. Once a gambler has lost everything due to gambling, and I'm talking about to the point where he had to sell his properties and belongings, he's going to be homeless and start doing bad things just to survive. At first it will be just as simple as lying, then manipulation, then comes the selling of the small things such as jewelries, and so on. You get the picture.

Just so you know, it's not the drugs that makes people want to do crime. It's the addiction itself. They want to feed the addiction and so they commit crime. I mean, it would be so hard to steal when you're stoned. You can't even get off the couch. Grin

But if a gambler was playing he wouldn't commit a crime in the process either. I agree with you that it's the addiction not drugs or gambling by itself what makes people to commit crimes, but those kinds of addictions are very different. You can be distracted by something interesting and forget about gambling even being addicted to it, while this can't happen with drug addiction because you feel physical pain during withdrawals which can't be ignored.

Gambling has been historically intertwined with criminal activity but the connection has becoming weaker with the implementation of online gambling.
Gambling itself is a bad thing and the consequences are also worst. I have seen thousands of gamblers who ruined their lives because of regular gambling. You cannot make any money in regular gambling and once you become addicted, it will be difficult for you to quit gambling easily. You will not only lose money but also respect even in your own family.
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October 04, 2018, 11:46:03 PM
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The OP seems to imply that somehow gambling increases illegal activities and gives the example of prostitution and the consumption of drugs, but what gambling does at best is to attract those kind of people because they know that the people inside the casino have money to spare, but gambling in itself does not increase those activities, those activities will happen anyway, however there are some crimes that could go up due to the influence of gambling, for example those that are addicted to gambling will probably steal money to try to feed their addiction.
Yeah I agree to this that gambling is responsible for the increasing crimes in the community. Nice and wise people will never gamble because they know the consequences of gambling. In my community a gambler has no respect even in his own home. He is just an idol person of the community. If he has a lot of money and no respect then he should think about his life.
I think there are still some wise people who go to gambling but what makes them nice is that they only made it to their spare time.Gambling will only be bad if you became addicted to it and you cannot control anymore your activities so you end up stealing from other people.

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October 06, 2018, 08:07:23 AM
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The OP seems to imply that somehow gambling increases illegal activities and gives the example of prostitution and the consumption of drugs, but what gambling does at best is to attract those kind of people because they know that the people inside the casino have money to spare, but gambling in itself does not increase those activities, those activities will happen anyway, however there are some crimes that could go up due to the influence of gambling, for example those that are addicted to gambling will probably steal money to try to feed their addiction.
Yeah I agree to this that gambling is responsible for the increasing crimes in the community. Nice and wise people will never gamble because they know the consequences of gambling. In my community a gambler has no respect even in his own home. He is just an idol person of the community. If he has a lot of money and no respect then he should think about his life.
I think there are still some wise people who go to gambling but what makes them nice is that they only made it to their spare time.Gambling will only be bad if you became addicted to it and you cannot control anymore your activities so you end up stealing from other people.

Yes, I am sure that not all people playing gambling for a long time and there will be many people who were only playing gambling in their free time. They know that gambling is trying to get all of their money and they will prevent to get a big loss. Those people might be afraid to become addicted because it can get them to make something wrong for their life and other people lives too so they will stay in the gambling place and play some games and they will leave the gambling places as soon as possible.

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October 06, 2018, 09:20:41 AM
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I agree with most replies. Gambling doesn’t cause an increase in crime. It can be linked to crime in some areas but the other way around. Crime tries to get into the gambling industry to launder money.

Also think about nowadays. Do you think online gambling from home causes an increase in crimes? Not at all.

Yes,online games nothing related to crimes unless gambling is fully banned in your country.Even the gambling is not related to crimes in most places other than the casinos run but the criminals which also the place where drugs are available.But it maybe causes some crimes because of the people who needs money for gambling due to their addiction level when they get into some stage they do anything for the money which is needed for their gambling activities.
Mostly criminal are also gamblers and gamblers are also criminals. When a gambler loses money in gambling he will do some illegal to get some money to continue his gambling. I think that gambling is the mother of crimes. Gamblers gradually become professional criminals and even commit murder for their money. Snatching, looting is their normal routine.
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October 06, 2018, 10:42:20 AM
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I agree with most replies. Gambling doesn’t cause an increase in crime. It can be linked to crime in some areas but the other way around. Crime tries to get into the gambling industry to launder money.

Also think about nowadays. Do you think online gambling from home causes an increase in crimes? Not at all.

Yes,online games nothing related to crimes unless gambling is fully banned in your country.Even the gambling is not related to crimes in most places other than the casinos run but the criminals which also the place where drugs are available.But it maybe causes some crimes because of the people who needs money for gambling due to their addiction level when they get into some stage they do anything for the money which is needed for their gambling activities.
Mostly criminal are also gamblers and gamblers are also criminals. When a gambler loses money in gambling he will do some illegal to get some money to continue his gambling. I think that gambling is the mother of crimes. Gamblers gradually become professional criminals and even commit murder for their money. Snatching, looting is their normal routine.
You might be right in some cases but everything is still a vice versa situations and that does not make make gambling the mother of crime because the habit taking by each and everyone of us lie on each individuals decision making. However, if you search closely the gambler that does the act you mentioned they are already a crime from the get go which they seized gambling as means to cover up their shady acts.

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October 06, 2018, 02:43:27 PM
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I agree with most replies. Gambling doesn’t cause an increase in crime. It can be linked to crime in some areas but the other way around. Crime tries to get into the gambling industry to launder money.

Also think about nowadays. Do you think online gambling from home causes an increase in crimes? Not at all.

Yes,online games nothing related to crimes unless gambling is fully banned in your country.Even the gambling is not related to crimes in most places other than the casinos run but the criminals which also the place where drugs are available.But it maybe causes some crimes because of the people who needs money for gambling due to their addiction level when they get into some stage they do anything for the money which is needed for their gambling activities.
Mostly criminal are also gamblers and gamblers are also criminals. When a gambler loses money in gambling he will do some illegal to get some money to continue his gambling. I think that gambling is the mother of crimes. Gamblers gradually become professional criminals and even commit murder for their money. Snatching, looting is their normal routine.
You might be right in some cases but everything is still a vice versa situations and that does not make make gambling the mother of crime because the habit taking by each and everyone of us lie on each individuals decision making. However, if you search closely the gambler that does the act you mentioned they are already a crime from the get go which they seized gambling as means to cover up their shady acts.
I disagree if gambling is the mother of crimes, because that makes them have no control of emotions well because the losses in gambling are drugs. Therefore we often know / see in every gambling place sell all alcoholic beverages that will make you lose control of the effects of the alcohol. This is different from online gambling that we can play at home or on the sidelines of our routine, because online gambling will be more relaxed and not all online gamblers use / consume drugs while playing.

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October 07, 2018, 11:47:51 AM
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I want to even believe the idea of even associating gambling with crime is over stated and based on what some would have watched in movies with casinos being used for some underground deals, they just assume that every casino owner is dirty.

You cannot know who is dirty until you catch them dirty and one thing is that even though we may see some different caliber of people in the gambling world, that still does not mean crime cannot happen even outside the gambling environment. Criminality is only applicable to each individual and has nothing to do with gambling in its entirety.
Well Smiley, you would not blame us all for all the things we have been accustomed to seeing in the movies when it comes to casinos and that has really brought about the mindset that casinos are always involved in dirty deals which has been happening over the years and still happening till date.

I remember some seasonal movies I watched recently, The Deuce as well as Power and at the end of the day, it still all pointed towards one thing with gambling, and that is crime.

I really do not know how this is in the real world anyway, but one thing for sure is that I would not expect that because it is like that in the movies, people should just assume that is the way it is in real life, because you really would not know if there is a criminal activity in the first place until they are caught.
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October 07, 2018, 03:58:37 PM
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The OP seems to imply that somehow gambling increases illegal activities and gives the example of prostitution and the consumption of drugs, but what gambling does at best is to attract those kind of people because they know that the people inside the casino have money to spare, but gambling in itself does not increase those activities, those activities will happen anyway, however there are some crimes that could go up due to the influence of gambling, for example those that are addicted to gambling will probably steal money to try to feed their addiction.
Yeah I agree to this that gambling is responsible for the increasing crimes in the community. Nice and wise people will never gamble because they know the consequences of gambling. In my community a gambler has no respect even in his own home. He is just an idol person of the community. If he has a lot of money and no respect then he should think about his life.
I would rather say people are generally responsible for the crimes they commit and it has nothing to do with gambling at all. I understand just like the OP and so many people have said that it is a normal thing to see a lot of people associating criminal activities like drugs, weapon and ammunition dealings and the likes when it comes to gambling, but really, with or without gambling, that does not stop criminal activities from still taking place in a society.

I think what most people really have about casino is that a responsible person does not gamble and that makes it filled with irresponsible people who are prone to criminal and immoral activities, but that is a lie.
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October 07, 2018, 04:38:59 PM
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The OP seems to imply that somehow gambling increases illegal activities and gives the example of prostitution and the consumption of drugs, but what gambling does at best is to attract those kind of people because they know that the people inside the casino have money to spare, but gambling in itself does not increase those activities, those activities will happen anyway, however there are some crimes that could go up due to the influence of gambling, for example those that are addicted to gambling will probably steal money to try to feed their addiction.
Yeah I agree to this that gambling is responsible for the increasing crimes in the community. Nice and wise people will never gamble because they know the consequences of gambling. In my community a gambler has no respect even in his own home. He is just an idol person of the community. If he has a lot of money and no respect then he should think about his life.
I would rather say people are generally responsible for the crimes they commit and it has nothing to do with gambling at all. I understand just like the OP and so many people have said that it is a normal thing to see a lot of people associating criminal activities like drugs, weapon and ammunition dealings and the likes when it comes to gambling, but really, with or without gambling, that does not stop criminal activities from still taking place in a society.

I think what most people really have about casino is that a responsible person does not gamble and that makes it filled with irresponsible people who are prone to criminal and immoral activities, but that is a lie.

I absolutely agree with you and we can rely on statistics in this matter. Researchers from Washington University at St. Louis provided us with some data, and according to them approximately 1.6 billion people gamble during any given year with over 4.2 billion having gambled at some point. If all those people were criminals or moral monsters this world wouldn't survive in such circumstances. I'm not trying to say that criminals don't gamble, nor that all gamblers are good people. But we have to admit that most gamblers are regular people posing no threat to society.

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October 07, 2018, 05:03:40 PM
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I agree with most replies. Gambling doesn’t cause an increase in crime. It can be linked to crime in some areas but the other way around. Crime tries to get into the gambling industry to launder money.

Also think about nowadays. Do you think online gambling from home causes an increase in crimes? Not at all.

Yes,online games nothing related to crimes unless gambling is fully banned in your country.Even the gambling is not related to crimes in most places other than the casinos run but the criminals which also the place where drugs are available.But it maybe causes some crimes because of the people who needs money for gambling due to their addiction level when they get into some stage they do anything for the money which is needed for their gambling activities.
Mostly criminal are also gamblers and gamblers are also criminals. When a gambler loses money in gambling he will do some illegal to get some money to continue his gambling. I think that gambling is the mother of crimes. Gamblers gradually become professional criminals and even commit murder for their money. Snatching, looting is their normal routine.

Gambler are not criminals but out of them hardly a few % of people may turn into the criminals depending upon the money they would have lose in gambling and require more money to either repay some debt taken or they have lost everything of theirs and to run their future life require some money etc.

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October 08, 2018, 12:26:01 AM
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I recently participated in a debate on debatepedia and this particular one brought about a huge argument and I was wondering how that argument will play out here and hoping to view your thoughts on this.

Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were;

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

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The existence of criminals does not make nearby businesses (including casinos) immoral. It is perverse to punish people who just want to gamble (and not take drugs or use prostitutes) by taking away their chance to do so.

For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?

We all know that gambling is one of the way on how people earn profits today in crypto. But as a smart player we must also know that this gambling isn't the best way to earn. It has advantages but the disadvantages are quite most concern. We must be aware on how this gambling may affect pure behavior in earning.  We must know when to stop and avois being greedy in profit.  In that, we will avoid negative acts that may lead us to make crime.

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October 10, 2018, 11:41:45 AM
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I agree with most replies. Gambling doesn’t cause an increase in crime. It can be linked to crime in some areas but the other way around. Crime tries to get into the gambling industry to launder money.

Also think about nowadays. Do you think online gambling from home causes an increase in crimes? Not at all.

Yes,online games nothing related to crimes unless gambling is fully banned in your country.Even the gambling is not related to crimes in most places other than the casinos run but the criminals which also the place where drugs are available.But it maybe causes some crimes because of the people who needs money for gambling due to their addiction level when they get into some stage they do anything for the money which is needed for their gambling activities.
Mostly criminal are also gamblers and gamblers are also criminals. When a gambler loses money in gambling he will do some illegal to get some money to continue his gambling. I think that gambling is the mother of crimes. Gamblers gradually become professional criminals and even commit murder for their money. Snatching, looting is their normal routine.
You might be right in some cases but everything is still a vice versa situations and that does not make make gambling the mother of crime because the habit taking by each and everyone of us lie on each individuals decision making. However, if you search closely the gambler that does the act you mentioned they are already a crime from the get go which they seized gambling as means to cover up their shady acts.
I admit that gambling cause’s crimes increase in a community. Most of the gamblers do anything illegal for their gambling. When they lose money they also create such an atmosphere that the opponent leaves the place without taking his money. Regular gamblers are the worst people in the world. Gambling and crime are the two names of one thing. There is no difference between these two.
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October 11, 2018, 12:26:17 PM
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I agree with most replies. Gambling doesn’t cause an increase in crime. It can be linked to crime in some areas but the other way around. Crime tries to get into the gambling industry to launder money.

Also think about nowadays. Do you think online gambling from home causes an increase in crimes? Not at all.

Yes,online games nothing related to crimes unless gambling is fully banned in your country.Even the gambling is not related to crimes in most places other than the casinos run but the criminals which also the place where drugs are available.But it maybe causes some crimes because of the people who needs money for gambling due to their addiction level when they get into some stage they do anything for the money which is needed for their gambling activities.
Mostly criminal are also gamblers and gamblers are also criminals. When a gambler loses money in gambling he will do some illegal to get some money to continue his gambling. I think that gambling is the mother of crimes. Gamblers gradually become professional criminals and even commit murder for their money. Snatching, looting is their normal routine.
You might be right in some cases but everything is still a vice versa situations and that does not make make gambling the mother of crime because the habit taking by each and everyone of us lie on each individuals decision making. However, if you search closely the gambler that does the act you mentioned they are already a crime from the get go which they seized gambling as means to cover up their shady acts.
I disagree if gambling is the mother of crimes, because that makes them have no control of emotions well because the losses in gambling are drugs. Therefore we often know / see in every gambling place sell all alcoholic beverages that will make you lose control of the effects of the alcohol. This is different from online gambling that we can play at home or on the sidelines of our routine, because online gambling will be more relaxed and not all online gamblers use / consume drugs while playing.
Online gambling is something different and I don’t count it in gambling. It is just time passing and wasting money. There is no fun, entertainment, enjoyment, thrill and ups and downs in online gambling. For me online gambling is not for boys, it is just for girls. A man will always visit a casino for gambling and that is real gambling. I agree that online gambling is not bad.
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October 11, 2018, 03:43:32 PM
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That's why gambling become forbidden at my country and it's still happen until now.
Yes, it's reasonable since my people still can't be control and need some regulation on it.
Murder,become thief,etc really bring bad impact on our life and my government really want finish them all !

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October 11, 2018, 03:50:41 PM
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I agree with most replies. Gambling doesn’t cause an increase in crime. It can be linked to crime in some areas but the other way around. Crime tries to get into the gambling industry to launder money.

Also think about nowadays. Do you think online gambling from home causes an increase in crimes? Not at all.

Yes,online games nothing related to crimes unless gambling is fully banned in your country.Even the gambling is not related to crimes in most places other than the casinos run but the criminals which also the place where drugs are available.But it maybe causes some crimes because of the people who needs money for gambling due to their addiction level when they get into some stage they do anything for the money which is needed for their gambling activities.
Mostly criminal are also gamblers and gamblers are also criminals. When a gambler loses money in gambling he will do some illegal to get some money to continue his gambling. I think that gambling is the mother of crimes. Gamblers gradually become professional criminals and even commit murder for their money. Snatching, looting is their normal routine.
I think not all gamblers are prone in making crimes.There are gamblers who still have good thinking not to commit crimes because that will definitely ruin their whole lives.Even if you're not a gambler and you're facing lot of financial problems in life,you can still commit crimes if you really want to.Being greedy and does not fear God is mostly the sources of crime.

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October 11, 2018, 07:54:31 PM
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I recently participated in a debate on debatepedia and this particular one brought about a huge argument and I was wondering how that argument will play out here and hoping to view your thoughts on this.

Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were;

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

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The existence of criminals does not make nearby businesses (including casinos) immoral. It is perverse to punish people who just want to gamble (and not take drugs or use prostitutes) by taking away their chance to do so.

For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?
In my opinion and based on what I really know everything that you mentioned in the latter part of what you said is true. Yes, not all gamblers are committing crimes but the site itself (casino) is a den of different kinds of immorality. This is just in casinos and not to mention other gambling maybe small or big which cause a lot to commit crimes like stealing, cheating, lying and many more immoral activities. Had even witnessed broken families because of gambling addiction. Husbands sold their house and properties without the knowledge of wives. 
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October 11, 2018, 08:29:45 PM
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That's why gambling become forbidden at my country and it's still happen until now.
Yes, it's reasonable since my people still can't be control and need some regulation on it.
Murder,become thief,etc really bring bad impact on our life and my government really want finish them all !
Yes, gambling does have a negative impact on those who cannot control themselves well and if it continues, the government should prohibit gambling to minimize crime and theft, even though we know that crime and theft do not only occur due to the effects of gambling, but from gambling is because depression is so severe, crime and theft can also have very negative effects on the surrounding environment.

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October 11, 2018, 09:06:01 PM
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Gamblers may be suspicious but actual frauds means you. Red to trap the site owner only.  They were introducing which is not legal in your country so you must be careful before you invested on any gambling sites.

Criminals in gambling field? I don't vote for it for sure.

Maximum people invested on gambling must clear the way they are moving for earning purposes.
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October 11, 2018, 09:47:42 PM
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These issues are connected to casinos without doubts. There is prostitution and drugs usage in casinos or near them because the mafias that operate it usually make money from these other activities too. But I believe there are some ethical casino operators that don't follow this modus-operandi and proportionate a decent environment to their customers, especially those casinos which have as main customers old ladies and gentlemen.

It really depends on who is operating the casino. Anyway I think casinos can be a decent place to visit, have a good time with class, confort and style, since it's well managed.

 
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