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July 11, 2019, 09:26:11 PM
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This is like saying that people who lost everything in trading go into crime...I doubt this is the case.
 Gambling owners can make the gambling environment decent and crime free if they want to. Some are probably encouraging that kind of environment to attract more gamblers.

Crime can be a side effect of gambling habits and can be done outside the gambling environment. Even though casino owners can make a decent and crime-free gambling environment, it's only a view from one angle. Because bad gamblers can commit crimes in other environments and bring the money into the casino.

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July 11, 2019, 10:44:16 PM
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I recently participated in a debate on debatepedia and this particular one brought about a huge argument and I was wondering how that argument will play out here and hoping to view your thoughts on this.

Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were;

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

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The existence of criminals does not make nearby businesses (including casinos) immoral. It is perverse to punish people who just want to gamble (and not take drugs or use prostitutes) by taking away their chance to do so.

For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?
We have the same point of view. A certain thing will become immoral once you associate it as an immoral. Just like drinking of alcohol, they say that drinking alcohol is bad and immoral but why do priest drink alcohol during their mass? I don't condemn the church. I just want to point out that everything that is too much is bane. Drink moderately as well as gamble moderately.

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July 11, 2019, 11:06:29 PM
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I recently participated in a debate on debatepedia and this particular one brought about a huge argument and I was wondering how that argument will play out here and hoping to view your thoughts on this.

Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were;

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

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The existence of criminals does not make nearby businesses (including casinos) immoral. It is perverse to punish people who just want to gamble (and not take drugs or use prostitutes) by taking away their chance to do so.

For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?
We have the same point of view. A certain thing will become immoral once you associate it as an immoral. Just like drinking of alcohol, they say that drinking alcohol is bad and immoral but why do priest drink alcohol during their mass? I don't condemn the church. I just want to point out that everything that is too much is bane. Drink moderately as well as gamble moderately.
Just because priest use wine during the mass it doesn't mean it is immoral. First of all know the difference between a drug and wine. The wine that's been used in churches were alcohol free, you need to be clear in ancient times wine was being used with their food. The same is being portrayed, just because Bible saying about wine or prostitution doesn't mean it encourages such stuffs. Don't mix religion with some activities and state it is immoral.

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July 11, 2019, 11:20:55 PM
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This is like saying that people who lost everything in trading go into crime...I doubt this is the case.
 Gambling owners can make the gambling environment decent and crime free if they want to. Some are probably encouraging that kind of environment to attract more gamblers.

Crime can be a side effect of gambling habits and can be done outside the gambling environment. Even though casino owners can make a decent and crime-free gambling environment, it's only a view from one angle. Because bad gamblers can commit crimes in other environments and bring the money into the casino.


This is where the "dirty money" comes from. It is said that the money you've earned from gambling is dirty money and that money usually do not last and will also be used quickly or gambled. The recent incident of crime in our country because of gambling happened in Resorts World Manila in 2017 where a gunman set the tables on fire and caused a stampede. I can't forget that.

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July 12, 2019, 10:25:31 AM
 #245

I recently participated in a debate on debatepedia and this particular one brought about a huge argument and I was wondering how that argument will play out here and hoping to view your thoughts on this.

Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were;

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

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The existence of criminals does not make nearby businesses (including casinos) immoral. It is perverse to punish people who just want to gamble (and not take drugs or use prostitutes) by taking away their chance to do so.

For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?

Here in our country, all our casinos are government run and our government will not let any casinos to be the hideout of bad elements, casinos here are heavily taxed and this is one of our government's revenue-generating institutions, I don't know in other countries, maybe on casinos that are privately run.

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July 12, 2019, 11:11:01 AM
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This is like saying that people who lost everything in trading go into crime...I doubt this is the case.
 Gambling owners can make the gambling environment decent and crime free if they want to. Some are probably encouraging that kind of environment to attract more gamblers.

Crime can be a side effect of gambling habits and can be done outside the gambling environment. Even though casino owners can make a decent and crime-free gambling environment, it's only a view from one angle. Because bad gamblers can commit crimes in other environments and bring the money into the casino.


I agree, well it is true that gambling owners can make the casino environment decent and crime free but once the gambler go out of the casino there is a possibility they can commit crime and I think it is already out of the control of the casino because it is already outside their premises. But we don’t know for sure some maybe going crime inside the premises.

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July 12, 2019, 04:25:07 PM
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yes, more or less like that, because gambling forces us to be winners. as long as we can't win, surely curiosity will continue to be in our minds, because not always gambling people have capital, they will certainly do various things to get capital to gamble.
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July 12, 2019, 06:20:23 PM
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yes, more or less like that, because gambling forces us to be winners. as long as we can't win, surely curiosity will continue to be in our minds, because not always gambling people have capital, they will certainly do various things to get capital to gamble.
STOP gambling ,, Grin Grin Grin
You may see gambling as a bad thing but others might see it as a good thing and they are using it to make money. I don't think those people doing crime to gamble are doing the right thing but that do not mean that is the only things that people do with their money. Crime is there and people do crime because of greed and selfishness.
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July 12, 2019, 06:21:17 PM
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yes, more or less like that, because gambling forces us to be winners. as long as we can't win, surely curiosity will continue to be in our minds, because not always gambling people have capital, they will certainly do various things to get capital to gamble.
STOP gambling ,, Grin Grin Grin
You may see gambling as a bad thing but others might see it as a good thing and they are using it to make money. I don't think those people doing crime to gamble are doing the right thing but that do not mean that is the only things that people do with their money. Crime is there and people do crime because of greed and selfishness.
For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?

I disagree on some parts. These kinds of shady deals happen on any place and not just on a casino or any gambling venue. Unfortunately, threads like these are one of the reasons on why there is a stigma towards the gambling industry as a whole. Surely, it created a place where addiction may be potentially acquired but everything stems from the decision of each individual, and not because of the venue itself.

It is actually relative to an individual's experience on how he/she views gambling. People who lost on gambling would generally view it as someone which is dangerous while others see it as a way of earning quick cash!

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July 13, 2019, 02:00:19 PM
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I don't think that the casino was related with the criminal activity because people who come to the casino at least have money to play. but they can be criminal because they need money to gamble still and they have stolen other people's money. but maybe there are any drug dealers and prostitutes near casinos because people who can win the games will have big money and they want to spend their money on anything.

the casino is not a hiding place for the people who make crime or the owner of the casino. but we don't know the truth, and we can only see them from the outside of the casino without know what is going on. many possibilities can happen in the inside of the casino itself, and we don't have to debate to other people because we don't know the real and it's only waste of time unless the casino owner is telling the truth.
I agree, because its a place of gamblers that wants to earn money and to relax on their freetime. But we have no idea if there are really some casinos are allow some criminal activity. We do not care about whats happening inside the casino, because casinos are accept anyone who wants to gamble
I think if casinos are legal to operate in a country, they would have to keep things regulated. Yet there could be activities that would be malicious from the casino side. In China and some other Asian countries, there is full restriction and ban on these activities amid these malicious criminal effects. Not all the casinos would go for something against the law putting their existence on the line.
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July 13, 2019, 04:19:09 PM
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yes, more or less like that, because gambling forces us to be winners. as long as we can't win, surely curiosity will continue to be in our minds, because not always gambling people have capital, they will certainly do various things to get capital to gamble.
STOP gambling ,, Grin Grin Grin
You may see gambling as a bad thing but others might see it as a good thing and they are using it to make money. I don't think those people doing crime to gamble are doing the right thing but that do not mean that is the only things that people do with their money. Crime is there and people do crime because of greed and selfishness.

maybe because in my environment whatever form of gambling is considered not good, because usually the effects of gambling are not good for people who do gambling and the environment

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July 13, 2019, 04:54:08 PM
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yes, more or less like that, because gambling forces us to be winners. as long as we can't win, surely curiosity will continue to be in our minds, because not always gambling people have capital, they will certainly do various things to get capital to gamble.
STOP gambling ,, Grin Grin Grin
You may see gambling as a bad thing but others might see it as a good thing and they are using it to make money. I don't think those people doing crime to gamble are doing the right thing but that do not mean that is the only things that people do with their money. Crime is there and people do crime because of greed and selfishness.

maybe because in my environment whatever form of gambling is considered not good, because usually the effects of gambling are not good for people who do gambling and the environment

Its depend if how to handle gambling, if you play to much gambling games and spend to much time being addicted at the end lose a big amount of money of course its not good but if we have control and limit I think its okay to play gambing.

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July 13, 2019, 05:00:58 PM
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I recently participated in a debate on debatepedia and this particular one brought about a huge argument and I was wondering how that argument will play out here and hoping to view your thoughts on this.

Actually, the bone of content here is that does gambling cause an increase in various kinds of related criminal activities? Few examples of the major points raised were;

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Casinos are often associated with criminal activity. Drug dealers and prostitutes operate near casinos – they know that there are a large number of potential clients in the area. Casinos can therefore be devastating to neighborhoods.

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The existence of criminals does not make nearby businesses (including casinos) immoral. It is perverse to punish people who just want to gamble (and not take drugs or use prostitutes) by taking away their chance to do so.

For me personally, I believe immoral activities are certainly based on each individual and it does not have anything to do with gambling. Nevertheless, from some of the further research that I made, I got to understand that, these things mentioned are very much applicable in most casinos; drug dealings, prostitution and even some casinos where the owners are into some shady stuffs. Well, just want to get to know what you guys think about this. Do you think Casino is like a hiding place for perpetrators of crime or casino on its own, ushers in a huge level of immoral activities by default?

Of course that gambling can increase the level of criminal activities,because some gambling addicts start stealing stuff and scamming other people,in order to get money for their gambling addiction.This debate is pointless.But that fact doesn't prove that all gambling should be banned.A mass gambling ban won't solve the problem.It will only make things even worse.

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July 13, 2019, 06:21:07 PM
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The banning on gambling made by the government is totally ineffective and not only online gambling, even offline gambling still can operates on a country that has banned gambling. Gambling is something that cannot be eliminated among the public and young addicts will continue to grow because of high curiosity (not only about money) and those who do not have a good moral character will likely act negatively on their loss in gambling. High awareness and control are the main things to prevent gambling crime.


I agree - it's like the prohibition in the US in the early twentieth century, the forbidden fruit tastes better so banning gambling by the government will not eliminate it and maybe even encourage some people to try it ...

Returning to the main topic I think that gambling alone does not increase criminality, but it can be an indirect factor - people addicted to gambling who have lost everything will look for any way to get cash and get their money back and this can push them to crime ...




This is like saying that people who lost everything in trading go into crime...I doubt this is the case.
 Gambling owners can make the gambling environment decent and crime free if they want to. Some are probably encouraging that kind of environment to attract more gamblers.

Those who play gambling may not be criminals even if they lose everything in gambling. Criminals and gamblers are not inter related and I really feel sorry if people think gamblers are criminals. Gamblers want to earn quick money by spending/ risking their own money and they have no intention to hurt anyone.

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July 13, 2019, 11:42:59 PM
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On your questions, if casinos are the hiding place of criminals, I believe there is a possibility that this is true, and authorities are doing surveillance on who are the people in the casinos that can be considered to fall into that category, so it's much better to play online casinos it's more convenient and safe as well.

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