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September 14, 2018, 11:37:28 PM
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I think there are more pressing matters on the forum. Most of all, I don't think the forum is in a "presentable" state for youtube or anywhere really. Anyone who watches the videos will be like "Let me check this out" and see the countless pages of "sir" "sir" "please sir" "thank you sir" "remove negative trust sir" "I'm bounty hunter sir". If you think it can't get any worse, well think again. I really believe in this community and the quality members are truly great, but until we rid ourselves of these shitposters, promoting the forum to the wider masses is like shooting ourselves in the foot. You don't get a second first impression. Just my two cents.

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September 14, 2018, 11:51:27 PM
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I thought that we might find solutions to the current problems before we bring new "good" members as they gonna stay here for a short time and flee, when they see the forum clogged with all this shitposting.

I like the idea in general, but finding someone or group of people it won't be easy task.
All applicants should present a portfolio with previous works to meet the requirements.

I have a few cameras prefer for the job, like Canon 70D, with Sigma art 24-105mm lens, as I'm / well, I was/ a hobby photographer.  I could do the recording but I I'm not good at being on camera Sad

Shall we have some format for the applications??

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September 14, 2018, 11:58:59 PM
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I think that's a very interesting idea. But Your first attitude should be to appoint two other people to a board.

This board would have the person primarily responsible for the project, plus you and another third person who is well known in the Bitcoin community. One of the big problems in any news site and youtube channel relate to cryptocurrencies, is the constant conflict between the editorial line and the commercial opportunities.

Another request is that the channel could comment on issues beyond Bitcoin but involving crypto, internet security and altcoins. The third request is to do everything to try to find a woman to be responsible for the project or at least for the presentation.
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September 15, 2018, 12:27:42 AM
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Does this sound like a good idea? Is anyone interested in producing this content? I suppose we'd need at least someone with good camera presence, someone skilled at video editing, and one or more script writers. I might be willing to dedicate some forum funds to this.

It's a great idea. I used to be a youtube semi-creator and I think I can expand your idea on this:
Preparation:
- A channel watermark: to protect property rights and make our content unique, noticeable. This should be a transparent (no background) png file. Forums has a lot of good designers, we can make a poll like this reporter badge thread to select one.
- Channel intro, outtro: less inportant than watermark but this makes our channel more professional.

Content:
All the precious knowledge & information in the forum can be transformed into video.
- Weekly news update: bitcoin or crypto news in a week, under a neutral point of view.
- Bitcointalk specialty release: this can be a long-term serie, availalbe at nowhere but Bitcointalk. We can talk about bitcoin's history, famous cryptocurrencies' teachnical specifications... I followed a lot of Youtube channels but there's no channel talking about this in depth.
- Fun fact: Another BTT specialty. This kind of short video refers to satoshi, HODL, Mtgox... (maybe all stuff found in this thread)

Video making software: Adobe Premiere or Sony Vegas are preferable, Adobe After Effect for high end graphics.

The third request is to do everything to try to find a woman to be responsible for the project or at least for the presentation.

There're various types of video and at the first stage, it's unnecessary to have a kind of interact video and hence we're not in need of a presentation woman.
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September 15, 2018, 02:56:00 AM
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That's a great idea but you will need a team to do that. A few people to support you video recording and editing.  Or you can aggregate content and livestream. It will be really attractive Cheesy Cheesy
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September 15, 2018, 04:02:47 AM
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Obviously idea is cool. There could describe about forum rules and guidelines. But for regular update you need 3/4 additional staff. Another is who will own the channel ?

I don't know how many forum members will watch the channel. You can see on meta, how many people's are active here. To be honest 90% user are bounty hunters and they are busy with it. They don't have much time to perticipate forum discussion and I don't think so they will watch also channel. Increase new members means increase spammers by the way.

In my opinion motivate extisting users to avoid spam is more important rather than encourage more new people to join. Existing users also can be assets.

To be honest, I am agree with it to create YouTube channel. But in last few months there is lot of suggestion came out from members to build a decent forum. Especially add new moderators and recover accounts. Support existing users and reduce spammer is more important to encourage new user.

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September 15, 2018, 06:59:52 AM
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Given the number of threads in Meta over the last few days/weeks/months complaining about the state of the forum, the ridiculous levels of bounty spam, asking for more mods and suggesting about 100 other ideas for improvement, would it not be wise to focus on the forum first before taking on a new project?

I agree that now it would be worthwhile to focus on improving the forum, rather than attracting new users, especially since there are no issues with the flow of new participants, but the problems with the quality of their content definitely exist. In addition, if you need to find enthusiastic participants who will not only do their job well, but also deserve your trust to implement your idea with a YouTube channel, then to implement a number of projects that have been repeatedly proposed in the Meta branch, you already de facto have a team consisting of conscious members of the forum who want to put things in order and make bitcointalk better. I think it would be more reasonable to focus on the qualitative changes within the forum itself, as there are problems and they need a solution. And most importantly, there are experienced people who are ready to help you in this already now.
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I kind of like the idea, especially if it includes helpful video guides and explanations of the rules or standards here. We could even link to them or show a welcome video in the 'Newbie Welcome Message' I proposed here. Maybe watching the video is a requirement for all new users. Would be quite easy to get people to do subtitles for different languages as well. I'm sure we could get some user generated content and if they're good enough they can be uploaded to the main channel. Their reward could be in things like merit, or as you mentioned in cash if they're of a very high standard (and I'm sure they would also receive merit in addition). Maybe there could be a special badge for great video content creators as well.

Does this sound like a good idea? Is anyone interested in producing this content? I suppose we'd need at least someone with good camera presence, someone skilled at video editing, and one or more script writers. I might be willing to dedicate some forum funds to this.

I don't think you would need someone to front it and it could be done just with a professional voice over, though it would look more professional in the former. There are people on websites like Fiver that will do both this sort of content for you and for very cheaply, but I'm sure we could also find people from here via the Marketplace.

If there was regular (eg. weekly) content, this might be a good way of attracting good new users and making existing users feel more engaged in the community.

Are we struggling for traffic or something?  Grin

I think it’s a cool idea if it were executed well. Not easy to find the right individual for something like this.

Theymos (or some other staff member) could be in charge of the account and would get the final say on what is uploaded there. We could request user generated content and the best stuff could be uploaded there.

If there was regular (eg. weekly) content, this might be a good way of attracting good new users and making existing users feel more engaged in the community.
It won't,not until moderation becomes strict and tight. Spamming will only become more. There are downsides to his: More spamming, more work for mods, which would lead to more spending. You should focus more on the members who left this place(because they stasrted hating it). New members wouldn't get what bitcoin is for a while,and they would keep asking the same questions again and again.

Don't bother starting a youtube channel or anything would bring more population to bitcointalk,so long as things are bad here. If you start youtube, more things would become a "priority" then. First,try getting rid of current issues, this will only add up as a burden to you.

Agreed. I think we should be trying to get on top of the spam and lack of action regarding the multiple issues here (ICO sig spam, shitposting farming, lack of mods/admins and redistributing workload, accounts not getting recovered etc.) before anything else.

If you're looking for an established youtuber, Doug Polk Crypto is the perfect guy you're looking for, IMO.

He occasionally features the forum on some of his videos, and they are quite entertaining. From having a good camera presence to video editing and script writing, he has it all.

I like Doug and he's certainly entertaining, but not sure sure if he'd want to dedicate time to someone else's channel. I don't think he's low on money either so not sure how much he'd want to be paid to do so Cheesy.

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YouTube seems to be on the skids at the moment, they are demonetising, de-indexing, and even banning some of the interesting content providers who don't toe the globlist line, I looked at  Steemit as an alternative, but I'm still not convinced that that isn't a sophisticated ponzi. It seems you have to  pay to get your posts ranked there. Dtube was starting to get some traction,but I haven't looked at that for a few months.

I'm another one who thinks that it would be better to sanitise the forum before trying to attract more members.

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September 15, 2018, 09:31:29 AM
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Recently the idea occurred to me that it might be cool to have a bitcointalk.org YouTube channel.
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Does this sound like a good idea?
No.

Who will decide which posts are "Youtube-worthy"?
How will those posts be presented?
A simple reading of most merited posts obviously won't do.

In the end, it will boil down to some random guy being appointed by (most probably) you, who will produce his own Youtube channel with his own favorite agenda and content under the label of bitcointalk.
Is that really what you want?


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Creating a Youtube channel is a brilliant idea as it is going to introduce Bitcointalk to a new audience.

Managing a youtube channel representing a huge community such as our communty, require alot of deducation and commitment, thus, it should be managed by a whole team and there should be a supervisor (maybe Theymos) to approve which content should be published since (again) it is gonna be the official Bitcointalk channel and there should be no chance to publish any misleading information especially in videos discussing crypto news.

Though, I think there is more work to do on the forum to reduce the number of spam posters and abusers (among many other things to do) before attracting new users.
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- Summaries of recent high-quality posts
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this might be a good way of attracting good new users
Honestly, can't see that having a significant impact in terms of attracting new users but since this forum is some sort of information hub (in crypto world), the focus should be on video tutorials and such...
- This:
especially if it includes helpful video guides and explanations of the rules or standards here.

- Summarized crypto news, but from a neutral perspective, without any pump-and-dump
It feels weird to see "BTCitcointalk.org channel" having content other than BTCitcoin stuff (even if it's summarized).
- Regardless of having a "Alternate cryptocurrencies" board on this forum.

Does this sound like a good idea?
Yes, but needs some finishing touches...

Is anyone interested in producing this content? I suppose we'd need at least someone with good camera presence, someone skilled at video editing, and one or more script writers.
I can help with video editing but I kinda like what "hilariousandco" suggested (minus the reward in merits):

I'm sure we could get some user generated content and if they're good enough they can be uploaded to the main channel. Their reward could be in things like merit, or as you mentioned in cash if they're of a very high standard (and I'm sure they would also receive merit in addition). Maybe there could be a special badge for great video content creators as well.

Having said that, I agree with what most users posted (this shouldn't be a priority while there are a lot of other issues in the first place).

I don't know how many forum members will watch the channel. You can see on meta, how many people's are active here. To be honest 90% user are bounty hunters and they are busy with it. They don't have much time to perticipate forum discussion and I don't think so they will watch also channel. Increase new members means increase spammers by the way.
That's not the only objective:

this might be a good way of attracting good new users

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Is anyone interested in producing this content? I suppose we'd need at least someone with good camera presence, someone skilled at video editing, and one or more script writers. I might be willing to dedicate some forum funds to this.
Andreas Antonopoulos has his talks and Q&As on YT and they seem to be attractive and up to date. You want something like that? IMO, he's a great candidate to be the forum's representative.

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The idea is great in general, but it has a lot of things to be prepared for the idea to be succeed, like :
1. Who will run the channel? If you run it yourself, you will need a lot of time Theymos.
2. Who will be the judge on "quality posts" to be showed up on the channel? It is a hard task because it is definitely a subjective task.
3. Reward system for  content creator (optional)
4. Are we prepared enough for the next generation of spammers which might be attracted by the channel?
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September 15, 2018, 08:05:03 PM
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Overall it's good idea, even though i strongly disagree showing anyone's face as Bitcointalk representative. IMO ilustration with human voice is far better.

- Bitcoin information

There's plenty video of Bitcoin information and i don't see much point of making another similar video unless there's specific viewer target (such as youngster or those with badtechnology literacy) or with up-to-date information.
IMO, it would be great if we could make video similar to Simply Explained - Savjee channel. Few members also mentioned that he's active on this forum.

- Summarized crypto news, but from a neutral perspective, without any pump-and-dump

This one might work, even though it's difficult to summarize/write from a neutral perspective.

- Summaries of recent high-quality posts
Maybe not this. Only the posts made by nullius, achow101 and gmaxwell will end up there.

High-quality posts doesn't mean technical thread/post, even though i only could think about it when high-quality post is mentioned. Maybe website such as medium.com would be better and user/member can post it under Bitcointalk's publication.

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Cool, how to ensure the objectivity of the given information? Who will control this Youtube channel?
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We all know that almost everything is already in YouTube. Probably some parts of it are talking about BTT, how they make money of having and account etc. Probably the best thing in my opinion is to make a video about the rules and have an official video to help and understand what to do and not to do, although it’s pretty obvious already but you know that some users are lazy to read. (Sometimes it’s me also)
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September 16, 2018, 12:01:28 PM
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Don't bother starting a youtube channel or anything would bring more population to bitcointalk,so long as things are bad here.
Can i just say: "I completely agree"? Cheesy

I like the idea of a high quality Youtube channel made by Bitcointalk as a community, but I don't think it should be a priority at this point. I'm much more in favour of improving the forum before starting other activities. I've even adjusted my Personal Text for it.

If you're really interested with video content for the community, why not host it yourself with the forum ( a subdomain for example or a video board here)
Youtube is more or less "the standard" by now. It easily takes care of everything, at the cost of bothering users with full screen unskippable commercials.

Given the number of threads in Meta over the last few days/weeks/months complaining about the state of the forum, the ridiculous levels of bounty spam, asking for more mods and suggesting about 100 other ideas for improvement, would it not be wise to focus on the forum first before taking on a new project?
This can't be emphasized enough!

Maybe Theymos wants to keep the forum more libertarian and wild west anarchic than what a lot of people calling for, quite authoritarian action at times..
This forum gives users freedom to say what they want, even if someone's opinion isn't popular or even repulsive. And I barely see any complaints about that.
Spam on the other hand should just not be tolerated, especially if the spammers earn good money from destroying this forum. It's an industry now: I'm pretty sure the homograph bump bots for example are controlled by only one person/team. On some days, they create about 500+ posts, on other days there's nothing. That has nothing to do with freedom, it's spam for financial gain.

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September 16, 2018, 02:16:28 PM
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Recently the idea occurred to me that it might be cool to have a bitcointalk.org YouTube channel. It could contain things such as:
 - Bitcoin information
 - Summaries of recent high-quality posts
 - Summarized crypto news, but from a neutral perspective, without any pump-and-dump

If there was regular (eg. weekly) content, this might be a good way of attracting good new users and making existing users feel more engaged in the community.

Does this sound like a good idea? Is anyone interested in producing this content? I suppose we'd need at least someone with good camera presence, someone skilled at video editing, and one or more script writers. I might be willing to dedicate some forum funds to this.
YouTube is a good idea, but not for development.
The YouTube channel may attract new users, but given the current system of ranks, you will lose users.
You have a very large forum and the largest community. All projects are already placed here.
You can create any system on the basis of the forum:social network, crypto Bank, any services for ICO.
It is important that the user can do what he likes and earn money in an honest way, and not engaged in shitposting and selling accounts.

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The third request is to do everything to try to find a woman to be responsible for the project or at least for the presentation.
Why?  That seems like an extremely PC, SJW thing to request given that the whole crypto space seems to be dominated by males.  Certainly bitcointalk is, though there's a level of anonymity here that kind of precludes hard data on that.  I am in no way against women, but it would seem very odd to have a female presenter, not to mention the fact that you're discriminating against males doing the job.

I'm another one who thinks that it would be better to sanitise the forum before trying to attract more members.
Add one more to that list, since I completely agree the forum needs to shape up.  It doesn't even need advertising to attract members, though I do think having a channel isn't a bad idea.

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