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October 06, 2018, 04:35:50 AM
Last edit: October 06, 2018, 04:58:54 AM by peter0425
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Hmm.. This is very interesting, I'm not saying this is true but every boxing fans needs to pounder

https://www.boxingnewsandviews.com/2018/10/05/eddie-hearn-reacts-to-manny-pacquiao-al-haymon-reports/

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This week it has been widely reported that Manny ‘Pacman’ Pacquiao may have done a deal, or be on the verge of doing a deal with US boxing manager Al Haymon.

So maybe, just maybe this is the reason why everything went very quiet after Floyd supposedly announce a second fight with Manny. Perhaps this is one agreement being works, if Manny wants to fight Floyd, then he has to sign with Al Haymon. Another interesting note though that there's also news going around the Floyd might fight Broner and then Manny in 2019, so let's see how everything develop though.
Thank you for the update. However, it doesn't make sense at all for Pacman to move from one snake (Uncle Bob) to Al Haymon. For those who are not familiar with Al Haymon, he is one of the most powerful boxing manager today.

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I do hope that Pacman knows what his doing because he is dancing with the devil if he signs with Haymon.

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October 06, 2018, 05:01:38 AM
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Hmm.. This is very interesting, I'm not saying this is true but every boxing fans needs to pounder

https://www.boxingnewsandviews.com/2018/10/05/eddie-hearn-reacts-to-manny-pacquiao-al-haymon-reports/

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This week it has been widely reported that Manny ‘Pacman’ Pacquiao may have done a deal, or be on the verge of doing a deal with US boxing manager Al Haymon.

So maybe, just maybe this is the reason why everything went very quiet after Floyd supposedly announce a second fight with Manny. Perhaps this is one agreement being works, if Manny wants to fight Floyd, then he has to sign with Al Haymon. Another interesting note though that there's also news going around the Floyd might fight Broner and then Manny in 2019, so let's see how everything develop though.
Thank you for the update. However, it doesn't make sense at all for Pacman to move from one snake (Uncle Bob) to Al Haymon. For those who are not familiar with Al Haymon, he is one of the most powerful boxing manager today.

[1]Al Haymon – devil incarnate or accidental saviour of boxing?
[2]What we know about Al Haymon: Part I
[3]What we know about Al Haymon: Part II

I do hope that Pacman knows what his doing because he is dancing with the devil if he signs with Haymon.


Again it boils down to how much money Pacquiao can get out of the Floyd Mayweather fight (hundred of millions of dollars). So if he needed to sign the dotted line to get the fight then it would make sense for him to do. As we have said before, boxing is already a business so I wouldn't be surprise if Manny fights under Al Haymon.

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October 12, 2018, 08:16:32 PM
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Manny Pacquiao Aligns Himself With Al Haymon, Eyes Big Fights

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In a move that could pave the way for a 2019 rematch with Floyd Mayweather, eight division world champion Manny Pacquiao has aligned himself with powerful adviser Al Haymon

Haymon, who runs Premier Boxing Champions, is the longtime adviser to Mayweather.

Multiple sources with knowledge of the details have confirmed to BoxingScene.com that Pacquiao (60-7-2, 39 KOs) has indeed signed on with Haymon.

https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-aligns-himself-with-al-haymon-eyes-big-fights--132649

OK. It looks like Manny already signed with Al Haymon. I consider this a indication that indeed the fight with Mayweather will push through probably next year.


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October 13, 2018, 01:56:12 PM
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Manny Pacquiao Aligns Himself With Al Haymon, Eyes Big Fights

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In a move that could pave the way for a 2019 rematch with Floyd Mayweather, eight division world champion Manny Pacquiao has aligned himself with powerful adviser Al Haymon

Haymon, who runs Premier Boxing Champions, is the longtime adviser to Mayweather.

Multiple sources with knowledge of the details have confirmed to BoxingScene.com that Pacquiao (60-7-2, 39 KOs) has indeed signed on with Haymon.

https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-aligns-himself-with-al-haymon-eyes-big-fights--132649

OK. It looks like Manny already signed with Al Haymon. I consider this a indication that indeed the fight with Mayweather will push through probably next year.



I didn't see it coming. I thought that Manny wouldn't sign with anybody when his contract with Bob Arum expires. Might be better for him if he negotiates without any manager, I guess its too hard for him.  Grin

Anyways, everyone really knows that Manny is past his prime and the fight will not generate any buzz from fight fans. The first fight earned a record 4.6 million PPV buys, but If a rematch happen, its not going to get closer to that number, showing that boxing community is not interested.

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October 13, 2018, 07:46:38 PM
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Floyd is all about the money, but don't forget he is extremely talented also. Sure he might be in his early forties but Pacquiao isn't much better. They are both welterweights, they're not power punchers so don't be expecting a knockout. Mayweather hasn't knocked anybody out in over 5 years (other than McGregor), but Pacquiao is still got power in those hands knocking out his last opponent in spectacular style.

I would expect that both of them will be walking away with more than $100M this fight, but I doubt Floyd will be getting as much of a payday as he did against McGregor, it's just not as easy to sell a fight against Pacquiao as he doesn't have the big mouth that McGregor had. Regardless, I expect another victory for Floyd, he beat him once convincingly and should struggle to do it again. I expect it will be by MD or UD, a knockout is probably not happening.

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October 13, 2018, 10:52:37 PM
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Manny Pacquiao Aligns Himself With Al Haymon, Eyes Big Fights

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In a move that could pave the way for a 2019 rematch with Floyd Mayweather, eight division world champion Manny Pacquiao has aligned himself with powerful adviser Al Haymon

Haymon, who runs Premier Boxing Champions, is the longtime adviser to Mayweather.

Multiple sources with knowledge of the details have confirmed to BoxingScene.com that Pacquiao (60-7-2, 39 KOs) has indeed signed on with Haymon.

https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-aligns-himself-with-al-haymon-eyes-big-fights--132649

OK. It looks like Manny already signed with Al Haymon. I consider this a indication that indeed the fight with Mayweather will push through probably next year.



I didn't see it coming. I thought that Manny wouldn't sign with anybody when his contract with Bob Arum expires. Might be better for him if he negotiates without any manager, I guess its too hard for him.  Grin

Anyways, everyone really knows that Manny is past his prime and the fight will not generate any buzz from fight fans. The first fight earned a record 4.6 million PPV buys, but If a rematch happen, its not going to get closer to that number, showing that boxing community is not interested.

You think it won't generate the same amount the previous fight does? We don't have the same view in that, I guess when the rematch happen it will still generate big ppv buys why? Because people are eager to see what these two fighter are up their sleeves even they already passed their prime.

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October 14, 2018, 11:24:19 AM
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I do hope that Pacman knows what his doing because he is dancing with the devil if he signs with Haymon.
I think Pacman knows what he is doing. After all, they all are after for the money and not for the sports of boxing anymore. Boxing is reduced to a show and not a sports anymore with these manipulation of the so so-called promoters of boxing.
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October 14, 2018, 04:35:32 PM
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Mayweather hasn't had a proper fight for a while now and Pacquiao has been fighting more frequently than Mayweather but we have seen the fight already, we know what will happen, why would we think anything different would happen in this one ?

We know Mayweather is an undefeated champion with iron lungs and can go 12 rounds like a breeze without a trouble, his stamina is unparalleled in any sports and he can beat down his opponent for 12 rounds, whereas Pacquiao has been going for senator job and playing basketball and what not.

The only reasonable person who can beat Mayweather right now would be a young fighter that has been KO'in everyone recently, anyone on their performance high, people like Pacquiao can't compete anymore.
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October 14, 2018, 07:37:31 PM
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Manny Pacquiao Aligns Himself With Al Haymon, Eyes Big Fights

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In a move that could pave the way for a 2019 rematch with Floyd Mayweather, eight division world champion Manny Pacquiao has aligned himself with powerful adviser Al Haymon

Haymon, who runs Premier Boxing Champions, is the longtime adviser to Mayweather.

Multiple sources with knowledge of the details have confirmed to BoxingScene.com that Pacquiao (60-7-2, 39 KOs) has indeed signed on with Haymon.

https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-aligns-himself-with-al-haymon-eyes-big-fights--132649

OK. It looks like Manny already signed with Al Haymon. I consider this a indication that indeed the fight with Mayweather will push through probably next year.



I didn't see it coming. I thought that Manny wouldn't sign with anybody when his contract with Bob Arum expires. Might be better for him if he negotiates without any manager, I guess its too hard for him.  Grin

Anyways, everyone really knows that Manny is past his prime and the fight will not generate any buzz from fight fans. The first fight earned a record 4.6 million PPV buys, but If a rematch happen, its not going to get closer to that number, showing that boxing community is not interested.

You think it won't generate the same amount the previous fight does? We don't have the same view in that, I guess when the rematch happen it will still generate big ppv buys why? Because people are eager to see what these two fighter are up their sleeves even they already passed their prime.

Yes, I will stand on my prediction that its not getting close to 4 million PPV its far too stretch to say that it can even get to 2 million buys. I'm a fan of both but who wants to see them fight at this point of their career? Manny won over Mattysse via TKO, yes its a good win, but he is not the same Manny that we all wanted to see fight Mayweather.

His a bit slower now and I don't see him giving Mayweather a good fight and it will be the same result and boxing fans will be disappointed.

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October 15, 2018, 12:36:31 PM
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Floyd is all about the money, but don't forget he is extremely talented also. Sure he might be in his early forties but Pacquiao isn't much better. They are both welterweights, they're not power punchers so don't be expecting a knockout. Mayweather hasn't knocked anybody out in over 5 years (other than McGregor), but Pacquiao is still got power in those hands knocking out his last opponent in spectacular style.

I would expect that both of them will be walking away with more than $100M this fight, but I doubt Floyd will be getting as much of a payday as he did against McGregor, it's just not as easy to sell a fight against Pacquiao as he doesn't have the big mouth that McGregor had. Regardless, I expect another victory for Floyd, he beat him once convincingly and should struggle to do it again. I expect it will be by MD or UD, a knockout is probably not happening.

My money is on Mr 50-0



Like you said when it come to Floyd is all about the money but when it come to Pacquiao is all about the fight in other for him to proof that Floyd was lucky when he won their previous fight. However, I believed you also seems to understand every well the capacity of Pacquiao when step into the ring and I also believe Floyd himself do either which is the reason why he's hiding all this while.

My money PAC

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I do hope that Pacman knows what his doing because he is dancing with the devil if he signs with Haymon.
I think Pacman knows what he is doing. After all, they all are after for the money and not for the sports of boxing anymore. Boxing is reduced to a show and not a sports anymore with these manipulation of the so so-called promoters of boxing.
Yes, both fighters knows that this entertainment is no longer in the best interest of their fans, they will fight all for the sake of money, after reading those news about manny, I guess he will use this chance to grab more money before his complete retirement and if he desires to run for much higher position
he can use those clean money, let see if this will attract gamblers and viewers.
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Can tickets for this event be bought using Pacquiao's upcoming coin?  Lolololol!  Grin

That would be hilarious.

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October 15, 2018, 06:11:11 PM
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I think Pacman knows what he is doing. After all, they all are after for the money and not for the sports of boxing anymore. Boxing is reduced to a show and not a sports anymore with these manipulation of the so so-called promoters of boxing.
This is the sad reaction of most people that doesn't really know Pacquaio and other athletes. We can give our opinions but we don't really know what's on their mind but the only thing would remain as a fact is that they are athletes and they are for the passion of the sport they've chosen like in Pacquaio's choice, its boxing.

And earning big bucks is just the second thing which do pay off their passion like any other career. We can't also remove the fact that sports is one of the biggest industry and market in the world.


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October 15, 2018, 06:45:26 PM
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I agree that the money involved in these things are insane but I feel like it may not be as much as what it was at the first one, it might be more or less but I feel like it SHOULD be low considering the fight between them first time was a boring strategy match and not a real true boxing.

People around the world tune in to watch fights to see who beats the Bejeezus out of who but Mayweather just turns boxing into a chess game somehow and so far at the 50 fights he had no one figured that out and almost all of his opponents are tired by round 4 or 5 by trying to punch him that they get tired at the end rounds so he either knocks them down or wins by decision.

The trouble with all of this is that it makes a fight that is not fun to watch anymore so if they gonna fight for money they will get their money but hopefully less than the first one.
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I do hope that Pacman knows what his doing because he is dancing with the devil if he signs with Haymon.
I think Pacman knows what he is doing. After all, they all are after for the money and not for the sports of boxing anymore. Boxing is reduced to a show and not a sports anymore with these manipulation of the so so-called promoters of boxing.
Yes, both fighters knows that this entertainment is no longer in the best interest of their fans, they will fight all for the sake of money, after reading those news about manny, I guess he will use this chance to grab more money before his complete retirement and if he desires to run for much higher position
he can use those clean money, let see if this will attract gamblers and viewers.
I guess this attract a lot of gamblers if soon they'll fight over for another rematch of fight. The reason for this fight is to prove their strength in boxing career, despite of those unfair perceptions behind speculative of pacman's previous fight with Mayweather. Clean money or whatsoever, gambling is really gambling and we couldn't make it as clean as other was expected.
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I do hope that Pacman knows what his doing because he is dancing with the devil if he signs with Haymon.
I think Pacman knows what he is doing. After all, they all are after for the money and not for the sports of boxing anymore. Boxing is reduced to a show and not a sports anymore with these manipulation of the so so-called promoters of boxing.
Yes, both fighters knows that this entertainment is no longer in the best interest of their fans, they will fight all for the sake of money, after reading those news about manny, I guess he will use this chance to grab more money before his complete retirement and if he desires to run for much higher position
he can use those clean money, let see if this will attract gamblers and viewers.

Floyd will be the clear favourite here and there will be so much money flowing in bookies so I agree that it will attract a lot from gamblers alike. For Manny, possible that he needs more money to finance his next political ambition so its still a viable options for him as this point.

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October 15, 2018, 11:01:16 PM
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I do hope that Pacman knows what his doing because he is dancing with the devil if he signs with Haymon.
I think Pacman knows what he is doing. After all, they all are after for the money and not for the sports of boxing anymore. Boxing is reduced to a show and not a sports anymore with these manipulation of the so so-called promoters of boxing.
Yes, both fighters knows that this entertainment is no longer in the best interest of their fans, they will fight all for the sake of money, after reading those news about manny, I guess he will use this chance to grab more money before his complete retirement and if he desires to run for much higher position
he can use those clean money, let see if this will attract gamblers and viewers.

Floyd will be the clear favourite here and there will be so much money flowing in bookies so I agree that it will attract a lot from gamblers alike. For Manny, possible that he needs more money to finance his next political ambition so its still a viable options for him as this point.
Manny already have sufficient funds when it comes to his next political ambition.I don't see any shortage of funds yet he can provide if he'd want to. When it comes to sports specially a fight between legends and popular ones it cant really be avoided that in all sorts or ways there would always be the aim on making or milking out money even on gambling industry is no exception.

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I do hope that Pacman knows what his doing because he is dancing with the devil if he signs with Haymon.
I think Pacman knows what he is doing. After all, they all are after for the money and not for the sports of boxing anymore. Boxing is reduced to a show and not a sports anymore with these manipulation of the so so-called promoters of boxing.
Yes, both fighters knows that this entertainment is no longer in the best interest of their fans, they will fight all for the sake of money, after reading those news about manny, I guess he will use this chance to grab more money before his complete retirement and if he desires to run for much higher position
he can use those clean money, let see if this will attract gamblers and viewers.

Floyd will be the clear favourite here and there will be so much money flowing in bookies so I agree that it will attract a lot from gamblers alike. For Manny, possible that he needs more money to finance his next political ambition so its still a viable options for him as this point.
Manny already have sufficient funds when it comes to his next political ambition.I don't see any shortage of funds yet he can provide if he'd want to. When it comes to sports specially a fight between legends and popular ones it cant really be avoided that in all sorts or ways there would always be the aim on making or milking out money even on gambling industry is no exception.

Yeah I know that he is one of the wealthiest in the Philippines but politics in different there. You need to shell out millions if not billions of pesos if you really wanted to be elected in higher office.

http://rogue.ph/the-true-cost-of-a-political-campaign/

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Minimum price tag for presidency: P2 billion to P3 billion?

“A national candidate for president, vice-president or senator needs a minimum of P2 billion to run,” Dr. Temario “Temmie” C. Rivera, former chairman of the political science department at the University of the Philippines and now Center for People Empowerment in Governance (CenPEG) senior research fellow, told me last June.

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October 16, 2018, 07:35:30 PM
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Isn't their peso worth like over 50 pesos to a dollar ? I mean by that logic even if the higher office takes billions to get there this dude should have couple billion pesos just from one fight, he is doing a second one, lets say he spent the first one on unrelated stuff and did not used any of it to help anyone and get any political gains but even with just a second fight with Mayweather he should make about 100 million dollars at least and that is about 5 billion pesos or so, if that can't get you a decent seat, nothing will.

This dude is a world famous athlete that spent his life on one of the highest paid sports in the world, if he can't make couple billion pesos in a year I don't know who can. He can just arrange a fight once a year and in couple years he would have so much money that presidency wouldn't be a shock.
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Isn't their peso worth like over 50 pesos to a dollar ? I mean by that logic even if the higher office takes billions to get there this dude should have couple billion pesos just from one fight, he is doing a second one, lets say he spent the first one on unrelated stuff and did not used any of it to help anyone and get any political gains but even with just a second fight with Mayweather he should make about 100 million dollars at least and that is about 5 billion pesos or so, if that can't get you a decent seat, nothing will.

This dude is a world famous athlete that spent his life on one of the highest paid sports in the world, if he can't make couple billion pesos in a year I don't know who can. He can just arrange a fight once a year and in couple years he would have so much money that presidency wouldn't be a shock.
$100M is just a minimal prize to be won by Pacquiao with those famous fights like Mayweather and each dollar cost 50x more then it would really be easy to support his political aims.

When it comes to presidency,I wont really comment on that and it would be just better if he would stay up just on the congress.

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