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August 13, 2019, 06:54:21 AM
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Pacman is very close to retirement. Fighting Errol Spence might be a mistake because he will certainly lose and receive a purse not as large as a loss versus Floyd.
I agree that this is a very risky and dangerous fight for Pacquiao because of all the tools that Spence had, young, tall and lanky, powers in both hands, very defensive and the current p4p in my list. But we all know that Pacquiao even at this age, really surprises everyone specially his impressive wins against Keith Thurman.

But what can he do if Floyd doesn't want to fight him? So Pacquiao has to move on and sought the next dangerous fighter out there, either Spence or Porter, even if the pay is way less than fighting Floyd (win or lose).

Thurman was also a dangerous fighter, he was undefeated but Manny beat him convincingly, we can't underestimate him because he has a lot of experience in boxing and in fact he is already a legend and if they would agree with the fight, that means Manny's camp sees some big possibility that he can win the fight.

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August 13, 2019, 07:27:39 AM
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Pacman is very close to retirement. Fighting Errol Spence might be a mistake because he will certainly lose and receive a purse not as large as a loss versus Floyd.
He would consider on where he's going to get a huge chunk and share. If it's going to be with Spence, then he'll take the fight but I'm sure that there's more hype and money with Money.

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August 13, 2019, 07:43:22 AM
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They want Mayweather. But this fight will not be as good as Thurman's fight as Mayweather will just count technicalities inside the ring.
I guess, time to hang up the gloves for Pac. There's nothing to prove anyway. He has the money to comfortably retire in his country.
Mayweather rematch is much bigger compared to other past opponents of Manny Pacquiao. Why Floyd Mayweather is much bigger? Because of his undefeated record, 0 losses.
Look at his recent tweeet about his record:
Numbers don’t lie and boxrec told the truth.

He really proud of it and claiming it, no rematch for Manny Pacquiao is a safe haven for him Cheesy But still rooting for it, he even already got money, boxing records, and women Wink

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August 13, 2019, 08:21:14 AM
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Pacman is very close to retirement. Fighting Errol Spence might be a mistake because he will certainly lose and receive a purse not as large as a loss versus Floyd.
He would consider on where he's going to get a huge chunk and share. If it's going to be with Spence, then he'll take the fight but I'm sure that there's more hype and money with Money.
Manny is a boxer and not fighting for money like what Mayweather does.he will fight even till the last day of his retirement so for me this is all about legacy and not for money..and besides Spence is a good boxer but Pacquiao is more confident when fighting in some boxers with good stats just like his last fight when he defeat a more younger and strong but see what he did?Just one punch and manny will prove himself again









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August 13, 2019, 10:43:15 AM
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I really hope that Floyd Mayweather comes out of retirement simply because of the amount of money they can make in their rematch
Just like what I've asked before if this fight will commence.

I don't want to assume that this fight will happen at least for now, I don't want to have that kind of expectation that I have before.

Right, as what we have expected before that the fight would be as entertaining as it was but we failed to see a good fight. Many say that Manny won that fight but when I look at the replay, it Mayweather who hit most of it's punches and not Manny.

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August 13, 2019, 10:47:17 AM
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If in the money stand point, Floyd can't resist this fight but if he thinks of protecting his zero loss, then he might not risk that since Manny has been very active in the sports betting younger champions and his last fight was a big proof that he still has a power, beating Thurman is not easy but Manny did it, so he could use that confidence when fighting Floyd.
I really hope that Floyd Mayweather comes out of retirement simply because of the amount of money they can make in their rematch, i am sure they will break all the pay per view records if they rematch and i wanted to see that fight as Manny Pacquiao was having an injury and the commission did not allow him to take pain killers but Mayweather is smart and he might rematch Conor McGregor rather than facing a real boxer in Manny.

Even if he retires, he will schedule rematches with top-class boxers just for the money.
This is what happens in the boxing industry. Everyone fights for the money and this is the reason why I stopped gambling on this sport.
They don't care about winning. They make an agreement before the match and they spare the money from the sponsorships.
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August 13, 2019, 11:12:38 AM
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He really proud of it and claiming it, no rematch for Manny Pacquiao is a safe haven for him Cheesy But still rooting for it, he even already got money, boxing records, and women Wink

Overall, Floyd Weather and Manny Pacquiao are great boxing player, 1st on boxing record is Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao is the second. At their 40s, very well boxing records.

That picture makes philippines so much proud to Manny Pacquaio. Looking at it, when you’re a truly “bloody pinoy” you will realize how really we’re proud from what manny given to our country. The only one who’s really in good faith to god, neverheard to trashtalking his opponents, and playing basketball because its he’s passion and not for money. Like you manny you make more philippines a better place, you raised it in a nice matter way by having your good heart.

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August 13, 2019, 04:38:46 PM
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They want Mayweather. But this fight will not be as good as Thurman's fight as Mayweather will just count technicalities inside the ring.
I guess, time to hang up the gloves for Pac. There's nothing to prove anyway. He has the money to comfortably retire in his country.
Mayweather rematch is much bigger compared to other past opponents of Manny Pacquiao. Why Floyd Mayweather is much bigger? Because of his undefeated record, 0 losses.
Look at his recent tweeet about his record:
Numbers don’t lie and boxrec told the truth.

He really proud of it and claiming it, no rematch for Manny Pacquiao is a safe haven for him Cheesy But still rooting for it, he even already got money, boxing records, and women Wink

Overall, Floyd Weather and Manny Pacquiao are great boxing player, 1st on boxing record is Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao is the second. At their 40s, very well boxing records.
Most people who are Manny fans or who want the rematch between to two fighters ignore the fact and the hard work behind Floyd achievement is not easy despite Floyd age he always trained and always outperform than his previous fight. This is the reason why respect Floyd more than every other current fighter.

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August 13, 2019, 08:44:28 PM
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They want Mayweather. But this fight will not be as good as Thurman's fight as Mayweather will just count technicalities inside the ring.
I guess, time to hang up the gloves for Pac. There's nothing to prove anyway. He has the money to comfortably retire in his country.
Mayweather rematch is much bigger compared to other past opponents of Manny Pacquiao. Why Floyd Mayweather is much bigger? Because of his undefeated record, 0 losses.
Look at his recent tweeet about his record:
Numbers don’t lie and boxrec told the truth.
He really proud of it and claiming it, no rematch for Manny Pacquiao is a safe haven for him Cheesy But still rooting for it, he even already got money, boxing records, and women Wink

Overall, Floyd Weather and Manny Pacquiao are great boxing player, 1st on boxing record is Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao is the second. At their 40s, very well boxing records.
Most people who are Manny fans or who want the rematch between to two fighters ignore the fact and the hard work behind Floyd achievement is not easy despite Floyd age he always trained and always outperform than his previous fight. This is the reason why respect Floyd more than every other current fighter.
Reaching those stats isn't really that simple.With those numbers with having no defeat is truly remarkable and a worthy thing for him to boast on.

Some people might not like his fighting style but its his style to achieve that very good record.No matter what people do say but those numbers aren't a lie.

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August 13, 2019, 10:21:13 PM
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But wait everyone, someone is asking for a rematch.
Thurman: I Want Pacquiao Rematch, Our Fight Was a Draw!
Maybe we can see first the rematch of Thurman and Manny Pacquiao before Mayweather. What do you think?
It's look like there is too much pain on the as$ of Kieth Thurman and can't accept his lost, but, this is still possibile rematch compare to Mayweather.

I don't think Thurman's rematch will happen in Pacquiao's time anymore.

https://www.scmp.com/sport/boxing/article/3022260/manny-pacquiao-turns-down-keith-thurman-jeff-horn-rematches-we-want

They want Mayweather. But this fight will not be as good as Thurman's fight as Mayweather will just count technicalities inside the ring.
I guess, time to hang up the gloves for Pac. There's nothing to prove anyway. He has the money to comfortably retire in his country.


Manny is not going to wait for Mayweather to come out of retirement. They are going to start working for whoever is on the line next. I can see him fighting Errol Spence next before Maywaether. If he fights Errol Spence Manny will become possibly the best p4p fighter ever, and this may make a case for a Mayweather rematch in which Floyd can find motivation for the challenge. Of course, he is a prize fighter, but he is also concerned with his legacy, he wants to be remembered as the best ever. Pacquiao defeating Spence will put him on the discussion for best p4p, the only way to stop this for Floyd is to defeat him again in a rematch. By defeating Pacquiao again after defeating Thurman and Errol Mayweather will be p4p automatically.

Spence vs Porter will be held next month. I think Manny will fight the winner. And Manny fight Errol and won convincingly then he could be pound for pound number 3 in my opinion. Specially with the way he fought a young guy like Keith, and of course against Spence. But I have to disagree with your triangle theory though. Even if Floyd beats Manny again, he will be p4p just because of that win alone.


I don't think so. How can Manny remain p4p after beating Spence, if he gets beaten again by Mayweather? It could be said that if Mayweather took the time to become active again, then he could beat Spence and Keith as well. If you have all those guys beating each other, but nobody is beating Mayweather, then Floyd is p4p... for me it's that simple.

However if Top Rank manages to make an huge pvp with Crawford vs Manny and Manny wins that too after beating Keith and Spence... I guess we can say that he is p4p even if he losses again against Mayweather, but still, ideally he wants to beat Mayweather if he wants to have no one guessing about it. I would love to see Loma vs Manny too but I don't think thats happening.

That is truly up for debate, there is a whole argument that even if you hasn't lost in your career you should be considered p4p, Muhammad Ali as some boxing experts considered to be the best but he has lost to some of the best in his era. Manny fought everyone specially when he was getting up in weight classes. Loma vs Manny won't happen unless Loma move up to 147 lbs. And the argument that Manny really started very thin at 98 lbs then destroys everyone in his path to 8 division and facing that best could shift his claim to be the p4p, imho.

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August 14, 2019, 12:14:57 AM
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Reaching those stats isn't really that simple.With those numbers with having no defeat is truly remarkable and a worthy thing for him to boast on.

Some people might not like his fighting style but its his style to achieve that very good record.No matter what people do say but those numbers aren't a lie.
His Mental awesomeness brings him that stats and even there's a lots of criticism coming from people who's not liking how he fight or much better to say how his fighting styles, but the outcome can be seen from this ranking, he don't need to fight back as he already retired from the ring  though the call of money might bring him to step back and defend again his unbreakable no lose statistics.

It will be there if this rematch will happen, only both camps can confirm if there's a real talk between the two.

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That picture makes philippines so much proud to Manny Pacquaio. Looking at it, when you’re a truly “bloody pinoy” you will realize how really we’re proud from what manny given to our country.
~.....
It's so normal for his fellow Filipino, that's how Filipino do the support. Supporters should start in his motherland and he is also proud on it.

A minute, I also remembered, Manny Pacquiao is also a Senator in the Philippines, so this situation will also be a consider a reason why we will not see a rematch with Floyd Mayweather, especially now, politics is getting hotter and hotter on the Philippines. Let's wait then what will be their decision.

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That picture makes philippines so much proud to Manny Pacquaio. Looking at it, when you’re a truly “bloody pinoy” you will realize how really we’re proud from what manny given to our country.
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It's so normal for his fellow Filipino, that's how Filipino do the support. Supporters should start in his motherland and he is also proud on it.

A minute, I also remembered, Manny Pacquiao is also a Senator in the Philippines, so this situation will also be a consider a reason why we will not see a rematch with Floyd Mayweather, especially now, politics is getting hotter and hotter on the Philippines. Let's wait then what will be their decision.
I don't think that would influence the possibility of a rematch, Pacman has been actively fighting and they can always find ways to set a schedule that would be convenient for Manny, and when Money talks, everything is possible, can you imagine how much we are talking here?

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August 14, 2019, 01:08:03 PM
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That picture makes philippines so much proud to Manny Pacquaio. Looking at it, when you’re a truly “bloody pinoy” you will realize how really we’re proud from what manny given to our country.
~.....
It's so normal for his fellow Filipino, that's how Filipino do the support. Supporters should start in his motherland and he is also proud on it.

A minute, I also remembered, Manny Pacquiao is also a Senator in the Philippines, so this situation will also be a consider a reason why we will not see a rematch with Floyd Mayweather, especially now, politics is getting hotter and hotter on the Philippines. Let's wait then what will be their decision.

As far as I know, Pacquiao's term ended and he's not a senator anymore.

You can check the 12 senators of the Philippines right now, he is not one of them. Last year, he is one of the senators but not now. I don't know what will his plans right now, all I know is that he is resting right now planning for another fight or maybe a rematch since there are a lot of talks about him fighting again Mayweather or maybe another boxer. As a Filipino, I would just support him unless that is a bad idea, but not the rematch though.
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As far as I know, Pacquiao's term ended and he's not a senator anymore.

You can check the 12 senators of the Philippines right now, he is not one of them. Last year, he is one of the senators but not now. I don't know what will his plans right now, all I know is that he is resting right now planning for another fight or maybe a rematch since there are a lot of talks about him fighting again Mayweather or maybe another boxer. As a Filipino, I would just support him unless that is a bad idea, but not the rematch though.

IMO, he should not pursue both the options at the same time. We have seen what happened to Vitali Klitschko when he did something similar. In the end his boxing career suffered and in politics he remains insignificant till now. Pacquiao should not enter politics unless he retires from boxing. It can do more harm to his political career, if he gives less attention to his political duties in the early phase.
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As far as I know, Pacquiao's term ended and he's not a senator anymore.

You can check the 12 senators of the Philippines right now, he is not one of them. Last year, he is one of the senators but not now. I don't know what will his plans right now, all I know is that he is resting right now planning for another fight or maybe a rematch since there are a lot of talks about him fighting again Mayweather or maybe another boxer. As a Filipino, I would just support him unless that is a bad idea, but not the rematch though.

IMO, he should not pursue both the options at the same time. We have seen what happened to Vitali Klitschko when he did something similar. In the end his boxing career suffered and in politics he remains insignificant till now. Pacquiao should not enter politics unless he retires from boxing. It can do more harm to his political career, if he gives less attention to his political duties in the early phase.
You're right about Vitali Klitschko chasing after two careers lead him to loose in both but Manny situations are so different and him chasing after politics was not the reason why he lost to Mayweather. Besides, Janation don't actually understand how the senator's election of the Philippines governments works because the Philippines senate actually consists of 24 senators, not 12 but 12 senators are always elected every 6 years and Manny will serve until June 30, 2022.

Here is the list of the 24 senators.

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August 15, 2019, 02:27:48 AM
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Pacman's age isn't a problem, but with his successful career I believed that health is most important instead of fame. If I would be like Pacquiao with legendary fighting history, the option for retirement is very important. Although he's capable and powerful enough as a boxer, I don't think doing rematch with Floyd was just a concern of pride and not an issue of money. Manny Pacquiao was already financially stable, and this is not a very significant aspect.

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August 15, 2019, 04:39:17 AM
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Pacman's age isn't a problem, but with his successful career I believed that health is most important instead of fame. If I would be like Pacquiao with legendary fighting history, the option for retirement is very important. Although he's capable and powerful enough as a boxer, I don't think doing rematch with Floyd was just a concern of pride and not an issue of money. Manny Pacquiao was already financially stable, and this is not a very significant aspect.
For Pacquiao is no longer about money but more on proving something that he wanted to achieved, he's career is already magnificent and  the need for anything to add things up, it's all about pride and the desire to regain his glory, Pacquiao have everything in life, Fame, political success and financially wealthy, retirement is just a glimpse away to decide if ever he wanted it to happen.
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August 15, 2019, 05:18:30 AM
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As far as I know, Pacquiao's term ended and he's not a senator anymore.

You can check the 12 senators of the Philippines right now, he is not one of them. Last year, he is one of the senators but not now. I don't know what will his plans right now, all I know is that he is resting right now planning for another fight or maybe a rematch since there are a lot of talks about him fighting again Mayweather or maybe another boxer. As a Filipino, I would just support him unless that is a bad idea, but not the rematch though.

IMO, he should not pursue both the options at the same time. We have seen what happened to Vitali Klitschko when he did something similar. In the end his boxing career suffered and in politics he remains insignificant till now. Pacquiao should not enter politics unless he retires from boxing. It can do more harm to his political career, if he gives less attention to his political duties in the early phase.
You're right about Vitali Klitschko chasing after two careers lead him to loose in both but Manny situations are so different and him chasing after politics was not the reason why he lost to Mayweather. Besides, Janation don't actually understand how the senator's election of the Philippines governments works because the Philippines senate actually consists of 24 senators, not 12 but 12 senators are always elected every 6 years and Manny will serve until June 30, 2022.

Here is the list of the 24 senators.

Sorry about that. Atleast you cleared that up for me, thank you.

Pacman's age isn't a problem, but with his successful career I believed that health is most important instead of fame. If I would be like Pacquiao with legendary fighting history, the option for retirement is very important. Although he's capable and powerful enough as a boxer, I don't think doing rematch with Floyd was just a concern of pride and not an issue of money. Manny Pacquiao was already financially stable, and this is not a very significant aspect.

Maybe he's still pursuing something not just for his fans but also for himself.

People thinks that money matters most in this fight and not the pride, their pride as a fighter. They are both superstars when it comes to the boxing scene and we all know the time they fight, money would obviously be involved. I think Manny still wants to prove that he is still that great of a fighter to defeat an undefeated boxer and said to be the best fighter of our time.
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August 15, 2019, 05:33:36 AM
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Another legend in the sports of boxing is pushing the Mayweather vs Pacman 2, what do you say about this?

https://www.ibtimes.com/sugar-ray-leonard-wants-pacquiao-mayweather-2-believes-fight-good-boxing-2813484

As more are pushing, it will become closer to its reality.  Grin

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