What manipulators want

[Incodium Coin]

Stockbrokers, hedge funds, and speculators all do the same thing on the stock market. It's something that's unpleasant sometimes, but it's an integral part of the market. Can't do anything about it.

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[resty]

When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

I can not sure if there is manipulator that hold the market value, this is decentralized and all people are individually accessed to the system flat form like bitcoin. No organization controlled the 24/7 operation of crypto currency massive decreased of value is because of "PANIC SELLING" of volume of user that actually affect the value of price.

[darkr]

I think that people just want to have more Bitcoins, more than anyone so they will control all market. They just want to drop the price and buy more and more. Then they will pump it... I hope

Yes, sure, they want to get more Bitcoins when the crypto is very cheap. After that, the biggest holders of BTC are going to sell the cryptocurrency to make billions.

[squog]

I'll place myself in the stand point of a whale. If i have tomw of money and i can make more simply by buying then selling the coins to increase the price. I would also buy then sel coins, especially alt coins, regularly just so the volatility will stop. Lastly, i may not want the crypto currency to be a hit so no one will invest on them anymore

[Ponti]

When market manipulations happen on crypto market, the motivation of manipulators is simple they want to buy low and sell high. All those manipulating techniques - wash trading; pumps and dumps; market cornering are only done to pursue two targets- to control the crowd and make money on it.

[Rune]

Market manipulators want to make money mostly on margin trading I think thats where people really get destroyed by these people.
Take all there money with no chance to lose.

[Shimmiry]

never losing out our hoping even the price is downs. There will be a great day of our investing and we can get much return of our money as long as we s=want to wait and be patient with the market. market down mean it prepare for netter future.

It is expected by everyone. Not only by thoe manipulators. But everyone wishes to have it. We are for profit or for income. Therefore everyone must have patience in which it is the main ingredient for everyone, and also trust. It is important to consider this things.

[Uhde]

manipulators want to collect more cryptocurrencies. they manipulate the market and wants market to be dumped when they want to buy. and they manipulate for a rise with good volume when they want to cash out.

[hastag_80]

When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

Maybe thats this your speculation or your prediction about the cryptocurrency are true,so that all the investor now would feel calm and dont panic about this situation now in the market,therefore us your stated that this is the manipulator wants in order to control all about the cryptocurrency movement .

[vasilev456]

You overestimate manipulators too much, they are not capable of influencing the market so much!

[Betwrong]

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a large holder might iceberg large sells at resistance, but whether or not a top actually forms there is really just up to the market. plenty of whales have been slaughtered mercilessly by this market, especially in the older days. having a bunch of coins doesn't mean whales knows shit about trading. for some reason, people just assume these people are profitable and remain whales. they aren't and don't. they're not much different than the 80% of traders that lose money.

It has been always a question for me, how many of early adopters still hold their thousands of coins? In 2013 some people were saying that most of them sold everything when Bitcoin was around $100. But then, due to high demand on the part of regular people, Bitcoin hit $1,000+ in December 2013 and the subsequent falling could only be explained by dumping big amounts by whales, because regular people couldn't lose their interest in Bitcoin at once. Then December 2017 happened when again because of the high demand from new adopters the price skyrocketed to $20k, and we all know what happened next. Again, I don't think those newcomers who were buying at $10k-$15k started selling their coins all of a sudden. Most likely it were the whales this time too.

And today when we are witnessing that the price is more or less stabilized, can it be the sign that most of them whales indeed sold their coins earlier and that's why they can't manipulate the market no more? If that is the case then in the future the price will depend solely on the demand and supply, and since the demand will inevitably rise the price will rise as well.

[tee-rex]

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a large holder might iceberg large sells at resistance, but whether or not a top actually forms there is really just up to the market. plenty of whales have been slaughtered mercilessly by this market, especially in the older days. having a bunch of coins doesn't mean whales knows shit about trading. for some reason, people just assume these people are profitable and remain whales. they aren't and don't. they're not much different than the 80% of traders that lose money.

It has been always a question for me, how many of early adopters still hold their thousands of coins? In 2013 some people were saying that most of them sold everything when Bitcoin was around $100. But then, due to high demand on the part of regular people, Bitcoin hit $1,000+ in December 2013 and the subsequent falling could only be explained by dumping big amounts by whales, because regular people couldn't lose their interest in Bitcoin at once. Then December 2017 happened when again because of the high demand from new adopters the price skyrocketed to $20k, and we all know what happened next. Again, I don't think those newcomers who were buying at $10k-$15k started selling their coins all of a sudden. Most likely it were the whales this time too.

It seems that you are not taking into account that it is actually a two-way street. What I want to say is that even if the first wave of whales (the bitcoin pioneers) had sold their stashes earlier, for example, in 2013-2014, it doesn't necessarily mean that there are no more whales left. For example, we all know about the Winklevee twins and their mighty bitcoin holdings, but they were not among the very first adopters. They are what would be correctly called the second generation of bitcoin whales. The point is when some whales go, new ones take their place.

And today when we are witnessing that the price is more or less stabilized, can it be the sign that most of them whales indeed sold their coins earlier and that's why they can't manipulate the market no more? If that is the case then in the future the price will depend solely on the demand and supply, and since the demand will inevitably rise the price will rise as well.

Then again, this is just a speculation. To make plausible inferences, we need to look at bitcoin wealth distribution. But even it is not 100% "tamper-proof" as one holder can have many unconnected wallets. In that case, you won't see them as one stash and him as a whale.

[gamechangers]

This is exactly the scenario that has been playing out for long. We saw this with the last all time high price of bitcoin and how the people who rushed in quickly dumped their bitcoin and rushed out. People are getting wise everyday and manipulators are no longer finding it as easy as it used to be.

[yndye]

manipulators want to collect more cryptocurrencies. they manipulate the market and wants market to be dumped when they want to buy. and they manipulate for a rise with good volume when they want to cash out.

That's why if you want to have profits then you would want to think as a manipulator or the whales or the market makers. You would want to know what are they thinking or what their movement might be in this kind of market so that in this way, you can anticipate their movement and you can avoid being dumped and will be not late when the pump comes. One key factor here is having a trading plan always so that you will not be betrayed by your emotions in case there are sudden movements in the market.

[maman567]

Only want by manipulators of crypto with bitcoin and altcoin price is could buy with lower and sell at higher price, we have see how come they are making many people are panic for selling their asset at lower price, take chance to buy and sell when it on higher price.

[CarnagexD]

I will try to think positively, I hope manipulators reduce asset prices aiming to get small investors like me and after getting small investors at the lowest prices the manipulators raise prices.

     We may have different opinion on the market status, Market is Volatile, anything can happened during the market trading, price value may goes up and down dependent on the volume of investment by the investors, the level of consumers confident affect market movement, Trading and HODL plays some indicators that bring the Market Volatility on the price market status, i dis agree on the manipulators in the market not unless "insider trading is happening"?

[wxa7115]

Stockbrokers, hedge funds, and speculators all do the same thing on the stock market. It's something that's unpleasant sometimes, but it's an integral part of the market. Can't do anything about it.

I agree, sometimes I do not like what speculators do with the markets but if we want to have free markets then it is impossible to avoid the actions of the manipulators, they are trying to earn money out of the market which is something that many of us can understand, the difference is that they are so powerful that their actions can move the market in one direction or the other, that is why it may seem unfair to some of the participants that do not have that power.

But since they have accumulated that power by taking the right decisions at the right time we do not really have the right to tell them what to do with their money and the only thing that we can do is to try to guess in which direction they are going to try to manipulate the market before they do so we can benefit out of those movements as well.

[tee-rex]

manipulators want to collect more cryptocurrencies. they manipulate the market and wants market to be dumped when they want to buy. and they manipulate for a rise with good volume when they want to cash out.

That's why if you want to have profits then you would want to think as a manipulator or the whales or the market makers. You would want to know what are they thinking or what their movement might be in this kind of market so that in this way, you can anticipate their movement and you can avoid being dumped and will be not late when the pump comes. One key factor here is having a trading plan always so that you will not be betrayed by your emotions in case there are sudden movements in the market.

If you ask me, that's next to impossible for the vast majority of trading folks as they are driven entirely by emotions even though they themselves think they are quite rational and reasonable. This is how human mind works by retrospectively rationalizing decisions made and steps taken. For example, you make a rush decision on impulse and then you proceed to contrive a reason to explain your actions. With manipulators, it is even worse than that. By trying to guess what's on their mind, you will be only fooling yourself. If your knowledge and expertize is on par with theirs, you will be acting accordingly without ever trying to get into their heads as you won't need that.

[YoungMaster]

This is the reality that manipulators do. they only wanted cheaper prices and sell at the expensive prices to get the profits. Well, anyone who is affected by their manipulations will definitely lose.

[Gotomoon]

This is the reality that manipulators do. they only wanted cheaper prices and sell at the expensive prices to get the profits. Well, anyone who is affected by their manipulations will definitely lose.

Yes mostly this is the want by manipulators to catch the price when it is low. To earn profit at a desired higher price. Manipulators do really exists in the market and we cannot avoid them but we can do on our own strategy to earn in the market.