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September 17, 2018, 03:59:51 PM
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Today many are disappointed with the new ranking rules, including myself. However, after I think about it, merit and ranking are not everything. Knowledge is more important than merit. With knowledge I will get more than merit. What about your opinion?
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September 17, 2018, 04:07:13 PM
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Please, don't turn Meta in section like Bitcoin discussions. We have enough sections clogged with "discussions" like this. If you think that knowledge is more valuable than merit, then go learn some new stuff instead of starting threads like this.


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September 17, 2018, 05:01:29 PM
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Yes, right. Knowledge is better than ranking, so let this rule function as it is. There are still many jobs out there that can provide benefits.

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September 17, 2018, 05:14:33 PM
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Please, don't turn Meta in section like Bitcoin discussions. We have enough sections clogged with "discussions" like this.
Seriously.  I think this is the last post I'm going to make in Meta for a while, and I'm thinking about putting the whole section on ignore temporarily just so I don't have to see all of these garbage threads.  Not that I don't have anything to say about all of this, but all of these noob posts from members who've probably never even read anything in Meta before are driving me nuts.  And the blatant merit begging is also starting to wear thin.

I said earlier this morning that I was going to go easy with putting new members on my ignore list, but that's already sailed right out the window.  I've probably put 25 or so people on ignore in the last two hours, and that's after reviewing their posts here and their post history.  I strongly believe that most of them aren't going to improve because there's too much of a language barrier and that they have no business expecting merits for posts in a language they can't write.  I'm not even talking about minor garbling but straight-up murdering the language.

Hopefully Theymos added some merit sources on the local boards.  All is not lost and as I've said before, I don't think this change is going to be as bad as everyone thinks.  It stings for some Jr. Members who got busted back down to Newbie, but they'll just have to step it up and improve.  I'm all in favor of bitcointalk becoming more Darwinian and not awarding a participation trophy to everyone who makes a post here.

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October 31, 2018, 07:44:50 AM
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Please, don't turn Meta in section like Bitcoin discussions. We have enough sections clogged with "discussions" like this. If you think that knowledge is more valuable than merit, then go learn some new stuff instead of starting threads like this.
Haven't you heard? Topics saying that "merit isn't important" is the upgraded version of topics that complain about merits!


Okay friend, I just found out there are limits to making threads in this section.
There's no limit per se, it's just that the same topic has been posted for like a bajillion times already. I'm pretty sure you already noticed that.

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October 31, 2018, 07:56:10 AM
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i have a dought ,....
is our feature in this form is depending on rank ??
i know everyone like to became a high rank holders but why is nessesary ??
we can give and collect info by posting our own words ... and post the topics for knowledge and help for others !! not for only rank !!

Nice dought. Why are you asking this if you know the answer? No, having a high rank of course isn't necessary. You can post or read this forum forever as a Newbie or Junior if you wish. A higher rank is necessary if you want to earn from signature campaigns as you can't earn anything via campaigns because as a newbie you have no signature, and you can earn more from bounties as a higher rank, but that is the only reason people care about them. If you don't care about them then great: happy reading and learning.

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October 31, 2018, 07:58:10 AM
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Knowledge is more important than merit. With knowledge I will get more than merit.

I believe that if you have the knowledge and you know how to use it, then you have every opportunity to get the long-awaited merit. However, the problem of those who aren`t able to receive it is precisely the absence or lack of cognition. If you really own interesting and useful information, and share it with other participants, your efforts will be appreciated. Therefore, it`s not entirely clear to me how knowledge may not entail merit.
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October 31, 2018, 08:47:57 AM
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Today many are disappointed with the new ranking rules, including myself.
Once again we are back on the bandwagon "merit broke my life sir!" that coming from a newbie.

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However, after I think about it, merit and ranking are not everything. Knowledge is more important than merit.
Correct, but that what does that have to do with the forum? This is not college entrance test.

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With knowledge I will get more than merit. What about your opinion?
You get merits when people give you merits. If they dont feel like you earn merits then they wont give you any. If you are generic shitposter or a bounty spammer you wont get any merits. Tongue

Good example of a thread which is wasting people's time here is this one itself. Better lock it before you face more trashing from other members.

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October 31, 2018, 08:49:51 AM
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It really is time we had a list of noteworthy new members. I'm sorry that I haven't had time to work on my Snow Eagle site, but I have had quite a few issues to resolve recently, and that includes a failing clutch on my van, hopefully that will be replaced tomorrow. I'll try to start listing qulity members over the weekend or early next week.

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October 31, 2018, 08:52:36 AM
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What a good picture to show the newbie that this forum is for cryptocurrency discussions and not for getting merit for one to join bounty campaign and then spam. I can't imagine why bitcointalk "forum" became a business for many. I do believe that users with this kind of attitude will likely to fall its right place.

Anyway, I still do believe on some newbie's out there (not this typical type) for joining and learning in this forum about cryptocurrency.

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October 31, 2018, 08:58:56 AM
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This thread was bumped today, but it's worth to note that OP last posted on the day theymos introduced the Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements.
No signature earnings from spam = no more posts!

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October 31, 2018, 09:27:30 AM
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When you consider that getting merits is not necessarily down to your high knowledge in bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general. Rather on your desire to learn, interact and contribute to the forum. And not just trying to earn through the forum.

Join discussions, read posts, take notes, contribute where you know you can be helpful.
Don't post or make unproductive threads in an attempt to get sympathy merits, it might work, but it does little for you especially when you return to spamming.
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October 31, 2018, 09:51:11 AM
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This thread was bumped today, but it's worth to note that OP last posted on the day theymos introduced the Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements.
No signature earnings from spam = no more posts!

Those threads should be locked, if the OP is no longer online. They are just a ground to  start a new meaningless discussions.

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October 31, 2018, 12:28:41 PM
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Please, don't turn Meta in section like Bitcoin discussions. We have enough sections clogged with "discussions" like this. If you think that knowledge is more valuable than merit, then go learn some new stuff instead of starting threads like this.
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That's your own opinion though u made a good point. Everyone have got what they are here for. Some are here for Bounties campaign while others are here to learn.
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October 31, 2018, 12:36:33 PM
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Please, don't turn Meta in section like Bitcoin discussions. We have enough sections clogged with "discussions" like this. If you think that knowledge is more valuable than merit, then go learn some new stuff instead of starting threads like this.
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That's your own opinion though u made a good point. Everyone have got what they are here for. Some are here for Bounties campaign while others are here to learn.

Seconded. We all know why we are here. Leaving Meta forum wouldn't be a good idea. We are here to learn and we keep on learning.

I don't think Meta will ever turn to discussion forum, we have got moderator there to put things in other.
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October 31, 2018, 01:11:51 PM
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I'm all in favor of bitcointalk becoming more Darwinian and not awarding a participation trophy to everyone who makes a post here.
Example given is really nice.  One desiring to become human being will have to start his journey from Amoeba. Only the best will go up.  Days are gone when it was given as matter of right. 
So want to improve ranking; will have to gain knowledge and show results in the forum.
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October 31, 2018, 01:28:32 PM
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Today many are disappointed with the new ranking rules, including myself. However, after I think about it, merit and ranking are not everything. Knowledge is more important than merit. With knowledge I will get more than merit. What about your opinion?

Is this right place to ask about opinion of merit ? Why should you disappointed for merit since your contribution is zero? I don't believe a good contributor can't earn merit. Yes, knowledge is more important than merit. But if you haven't contribute your knowledge then you are not going to earn merit even you make just post on meta. More important is contribute of your knowledge. And obviously merit will describe shortly how about your knowledge and how you are contributing on forum. So you can't underestimate merit as well. Your intention should contribute your best one, not for merit. Share with forum which is your best knowledge and try to help all how you can.

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October 31, 2018, 01:56:00 PM
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Today many are disappointed with the new ranking rules, including myself. However, after I think about it, merit and ranking are not everything. Knowledge is more important than merit. With knowledge I will get more than merit. What about your opinion?

Is this right place to ask about opinion of merit ? Why should you disappointed for merit since your contribution is zero? I don't believe a good contributor can't earn merit. Yes, knowledge is more important than merit. But if you haven't contribute your knowledge then you are not going to earn merit even you make just post on meta. More important is contribute of your knowledge. And obviously merit will describe shortly how about your knowledge and how you are contributing on forum. So you can't underestimate merit as well. Your intention should contribute your best one, not for merit. Share with forum which is your best knowledge and try to help all how you can.

His question was posted more then a month ago, and he is inactive for over a month now, just somebody bumped the thread today and here we go again,the same discussions.
Not that it's bad to have discussions,no.. it's just that we repeat ourselves every single time this happens.

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November 01, 2018, 02:08:02 AM
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merit is a gift for high quality posts . It developed not only high quality posts but also low quality posts because many people posted for merit .
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November 01, 2018, 05:13:40 AM
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High quality posts such as this huh

you can see when bitcoin was down others coin would be down . it affects on altcoin so much .
it will never end .  some will quit some will never . this market is not easy to join  and keep on working on it

But what do you really care, you've obviously gotten the one precious,elusive merit and gone right back into your bounty programs
I just hope theymos restricts paid(bounty)signature,to members and above

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