Should newbies be restricted again?

[zolace]

I believe they should be restricted to they reach jr member.  I had to wait to get membership at this site, plus wait in jail.

[ak111in]

I think earlier newbie restriction was too strict and instead of moving back to it if only we can restrict newbies from creating new threads most of the current issues would be resolved and at the same time the restrictions will be acceptable.

[Jacko]

I went through the Newbie Jail and it just took a bit of patience.

Thread starting ban sounds good as it will hopefully make them read and search.

Like below post. How sodding hard is it to search for one of the 8000 posts where people have already ( including me cos I run them ) told people what PSU runs an S1 Antminer for God's sake.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=508289.0;topicseen

We need a bit of education for them. Read, Search, Read some more and if you still can't find it ask.

[subSTRATA]

I went through the Newbie Jail and it just took a bit of patience.

Anyone who is into cryptocoins short or long-term will not find it hard to wait to exit newbie jail. Everyone else is provably working against cryptos,
one way or another, with eventual exception of people who are already into community and not active on forum but have some major news to post.
Like local event or something, stuff no one else could know and thus post here, so opening News section for newbies might be actualy useful.

I still think 0.01 BTC payment to join this forum would help the most. BTC earned could be used to hire some (more) professional forum moderators
or even pay known people doing investigations around here so that they become extra motivated to check new user backgrounds, claims and so on.

[jbrnt]

I still think 0.01 BTC payment to join this forum would help the most.

It is very difficult to get 0.01 nowadays, even when its value is just $6. It takes absolutely ages from faucets, impossible to mine from cpu, months from first gen asics, or may be a 50 mile drive to a bitcoin shop or atm.

[subSTRATA]

I still think 0.01 BTC payment to join this forum would help the most.

It is very difficult to get 0.01 nowadays, even when its value is just $6. It takes absolutely ages from faucets, impossible to mine from cpu, months from first gen asics, or may be a 50 mile drive to a bitcoin shop or atm.

Fiat > BTC, of course. Increase demand for BTC. To allow free entrance here works directly against demand increase and on top of it all we have scam
shits going around every day! Cost to attempt scamming? Almost zero. What to do with scammed coins? Most likely sell for fiat, putting preasure
on major coins, those one can convert to fiat. So in the end very little good comes from free access to this forum. The number of damaging posts from
newbies exceeds number of beneficial posts by massive percentage.

Newbies are allowed to post links to supposedly cryptocoin GUI clients (Qt) and other executables and suspicious stuff like infecting people computers
is no big deal for Bitcoin. It is so because we need more "Bitcoins scammed!" articles in media, right?

Liberal mindset was appropriate around here but it is no more, at least not when it comes to forum moderation ... it will backfire badly sooner or later
and then bullshits like "Use your brain!" will become just echoes of failed management.

[jbrnt]

Oh I agree with newbie scams being a problem, my previous comments in this thread acknowledged that. I am just saying a membership fee of 0.01 is forbiddingly high for someone who genuinely wants to seek help from users here.

[Jacko]

I still think 0.01 BTC payment to join this forum would help the most.

It is very difficult to get 0.01 nowadays, even when its value is just $6. It takes absolutely ages from faucets, impossible to mine from cpu, months from first gen asics, or may be a 50 mile drive to a bitcoin shop or atm.

$6 to join is to me quite reasonable. Here in the U.K. that equates to only £3.59. Christ I spend that on a paperback book to read up on things. Also for people to get information they could do what I did. I read lots of stuff on here and got lots of valuable information without needing to join. I only joined recently as I wanted to help put a bit of what I have learned back into help.

[nahtnam]

I still think 0.01 BTC payment to join this forum would help the most.

It is very difficult to get 0.01 nowadays, even when its value is just $6. It takes absolutely ages from faucets, impossible to mine from cpu, months from first gen asics, or may be a 50 mile drive to a bitcoin shop or atm.

$6 to join is to me quite reasonable. Here in the U.K. that equates to only £3.59. Christ I spend that on a paperback book to read up on things. Also for people to get information they could do what I did. I read lots of stuff on here and got lots of valuable information without needing to join. I only joined recently as I wanted to help put a bit of what I have learned back into help.

Just for the record, Theymos would never do that and I am glad that you guys dont own the forum...

[R2D221]

If I had to pay, I wouldn't have joined this forum (mainly because at the time I didn't know how Bitcoin worked).

[subSTRATA]

$6 to join is to me quite reasonable. Here in the U.K. that equates to only £3.59. Christ I spend that on a paperback book to read up on things. Also for people to get information they could do what I did. I read lots of stuff on here and got lots of valuable information without needing to join. I only joined recently as I wanted to help put a bit of what I have learned back into help.

Just for the record, Theymos would never do that and I am glad that you guys dont own the forum...

Never? Oblivious to truth, obviously, but I'll let you sleep more. Just continue thinking there is something that does not change sooner or later, because
of one reason or another.

[nahtnam]

$6 to join is to me quite reasonable. Here in the U.K. that equates to only £3.59. Christ I spend that on a paperback book to read up on things. Also for people to get information they could do what I did. I read lots of stuff on here and got lots of valuable information without needing to join. I only joined recently as I wanted to help put a bit of what I have learned back into help.

Just for the record, Theymos would never do that and I am glad that you guys dont own the forum...

Never? Oblivious to truth, obviously, but I'll let you sleep more. Just continue thinking there is something that does not change sooner or later, because
of one reason or another.

If this forum did charge money the bounce rate would go like crazy. Maybe only 1% will actually register. This forum was meant to be free, and will probably be free for the rest of its life. Why dont you create a separate thread and see how many people support your idea.

[Tbone123]

I think earlier newbie restriction was too strict and instead of moving back to it if only we can restrict newbies from creating new threads most of the current issues would be resolved and at the same time the restrictions will be acceptable.

I'm a newbie and I could agree with this. Usually I only have a question to an existing subject. The only negative I can see is that a knowledgeable person who is also a newbie wouldn't be able to contribute and that actually restricts the flow of new ideas for the whole group. I have a newbie question however, how do I emerge from newbie to jr member?

[nahtnam]

I think earlier newbie restriction was too strict and instead of moving back to it if only we can restrict newbies from creating new threads most of the current issues would be resolved and at the same time the restrictions will be acceptable.

I'm a newbie and I could agree with this. Usually I only have a question to an existing subject. The only negative I can see is that a knowledgeable person who is also a newbie wouldn't be able to contribute and that actually restricts the flow of new ideas for the whole group. I have a newbie question however, how do I emerge from newbie to jr member?

^^^ There are a lot of questions asked in the newbie section... The expert can simply answer those for the time being...

[the_poet]

Newbies have to be restricted. This is my proposal:

My idea is to implement a reputation score starting at 0 for newly created accounts. They can post anywhere but in the Markeplace section and can't send PMs. Whenever a member finds a post worthwhile, they can click on the button near the post to give some reputation points to its author. While a member has a reputation score < n, the Marketplace section and PMs are off limits to him/her.

In order to avoid abuse, newly created accounts have a reputation power (the number of rep points left on each click) of 0, so that scammers can't create multiple accounts with the sole purpose of giving each other rep points.

Also, each member category may have a different reputation power: x for Jr Members, y for Members, z for Sr Members, etc.

This way only people with a minimum threshold of quality contribution to the forum are entitled to the Markeplace section and PMs = 95% of scam attempts instantly gone.

[btcash]

Yes! I am sick of all these users with 0 posts posting shit in Bitcoin Discussion board.

I don't see the harm in requiring 5 posts in the newbie section and spending 1 hour online.

[notserp]

Maybe a compromise would be newbies are prohibited from making new threads outside beginners,  but can reply to existing threads.

yes this would be good some kinda restriction to starting threads

[Light]

I don't see the harm in requiring 5 posts in the newbie section and spending 1 hour online.

I would prefer it if they could have at least 28 activity before they could be able to start a topic. This would at least stop the crappy topics that are continually started in the wrong boards.

[alani123]

Maybe a compromise would be newbies are prohibited from making new threads outside beginners,  but can reply to existing threads.

I endorse that. Make it happen.
People would still be able to participate in discussions no matter how new they were. (There is still this hella annoying post restriction for newbies to prevent spam, which I belive does it's job quite well.)  But they wouldn't be able to create their own. I believe this would truly decrease the "annoing" posts created by newcomers or even scammers.
 

[Singlebyte]

BUMP!

We need to keep this thread at the top of the forum until something is done about it.  I am tired of reading garbage/spam posts from newbie accounts.


Maybe we should create a (really) deep embedded sub forum and name it something like "veteráni".  Hopefully all the new people would just ignore the the sub-forum.  It could be our secret hideout away from all the newbies!  Even better if it required a min post limit to enter!