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March 06, 2014, 03:04:59 AM
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I see many no-post users posting in the Bitcoin forum their malicious apps or dumb questions regarding Bitcoin.

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March 06, 2014, 05:17:32 AM
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I see many no-post users posting in the Bitcoin forum their malicious apps or dumb questions regarding Bitcoin.

What is even more annoying is all the posts that are obviously just to boost post count.

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March 06, 2014, 05:32:54 AM
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Yes, most of these newbie accounts are for the Sig campaigns...

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March 06, 2014, 06:12:38 AM
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Personally, I wish that they were stuck back at the newbie section. At least all the garbage posts were restricted to one area that I could avoid.
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March 06, 2014, 07:26:58 AM
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I see many no-post users posting in the Bitcoin forum their malicious apps...

And even if those accounts are banned, it only takes a few minutes to get a new one.
Having some sort of newbie restriction will at least increase the time cost of such behavior. 

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March 06, 2014, 07:27:47 AM
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I see many no-post users posting in the Bitcoin forum their malicious apps or dumb questions regarding Bitcoin.

What is even more annoying is all the posts that are obviously just to boost post count.

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March 06, 2014, 09:31:04 PM
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Yeah man  newbies should me limited again!! it really gets annoying to see newbies posting trolling spamming every section cuz  they don't worry about getting banned or getting a negative trust rating also its only newbies who come up with every new magical ideas and deals from which 99% are scam. Let them work on their profile a bit like we did and once they earn it they can post anywhere then quite fair enough i guess !!! Smiley
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March 06, 2014, 10:13:52 PM
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I see many no-post users posting in the Bitcoin forum their malicious apps or dumb questions regarding Bitcoin.

What is even more annoying is all the posts that are obviously just to boost post count.

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March 06, 2014, 10:47:41 PM
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Where are you seeing mass newbie posts? They mostly stay in the beginners section from what I've seen.
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March 07, 2014, 12:17:31 AM
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Where are you seeing mass newbie posts? They mostly stay in the beginners section from what I've seen.

I have seen & reported a lot since the newbie restrictions have been lifted and I'm hoping Theymos realizes that the 'Freeing of the Newbies' was a big mistake and solves this problem soon, I agree that the Newbie section didn't prevent spam but it did prevent the spamming of boards which I actually read to gather information and join in on conversations. Lately that has been impossible because of the noise to signal ratio.

I'm pretty sure some of the staff members have the same opinion of many of us and hopes a decision is made soon, at least they have figured a way to reduce the spam for the signature payouts.
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March 07, 2014, 12:25:37 AM
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Where are you seeing mass newbie posts? They mostly stay in the beginners section from what I've seen.

I have seen & reported a lot since the newbie restrictions have been lifted and I'm hoping Theymos realizes that the 'Freeing of the Newbies' was a big mistake and solves this problem soon, I agree that the Newbie section didn't prevent spam but it did prevent the spamming of boards which I actually read to gather information and join in on conversations. Lately that has been impossible because of the noise to signal ratio.

I'm pretty sure some of the staff members have the same opinion of many of us and hopes a decision is made soon, at least they have figured a way to reduce the spam for the signature payouts.

Well if a post counts as a vote here, I'll add my 2 satoshis. 
Restricting Noobs gives them a chance to READ a little, and maybe learn something before asking repetitive stupid questions. Nothing wrong with a request for information, but if it was covered in depth within the last page or two in a thread, for the nth time, you really aught to have read it before asking. I've noted many, many more of these zero hour accounts post-whoring lately. put an end to it!
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March 07, 2014, 04:09:29 AM
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Restrictions are probably necessary to contain pointless posting

Wouldn't want to create needless barriers to entering the forum though

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light touch def. needed, wouldn't want to create a racial barrier

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March 07, 2014, 10:24:24 AM
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light touch def. needed, wouldn't want to create a racial barrier

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March 07, 2014, 11:22:14 AM
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Maybe a compromise would be newbies are prohibited from making new threads outside beginners,  but can reply to existing threads.

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March 07, 2014, 11:46:21 AM
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Maybe a compromise would be newbies are prohibited from making new threads outside beginners,  but can reply to existing threads.

Works for me.  The ridiculous amount of threads near identical threads by newbies over the last week had me ready to call for the return of newbie jail but your suggestion might be a reasonable compromise.

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March 07, 2014, 01:28:59 PM
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Maybe a compromise would be newbies are prohibited from making new threads outside beginners,  but can reply to existing threads.

That would be a good idea, but I'd still prefer the newbie jail.

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March 07, 2014, 02:40:34 PM
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Maybe a compromise would be newbies are prohibited from making new threads outside beginners,  but can reply to existing threads.

That would be a good idea, but I'd still prefer the newbie jail.

It's pretty frustrating for newbies, and newbie jail is full of posts like "hi, how are you, i can't wait to get out of jail"
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March 07, 2014, 03:06:36 PM
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Maybe a compromise would be newbies are prohibited from making new threads outside beginners,  but can reply to existing threads.

That would be a good idea, but I'd still prefer the newbie jail.

It's pretty frustrating for newbies, and newbie jail is full of posts like "hi, how are you, i can't wait to get out of jail"

Yeah, they can't wait to get out of jail to go straight to the Bitcoin forum to ask if you'll donate to their "charity" or ask why they haven't been able to successfully mine any Bitcoins on their iPhone and then disappear to never post again. Sure, the restrictions are mildly annoying, but more annoying to the rest of the forum when it gets cluttered up with questions that have been answered hundreds of times before.


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March 07, 2014, 03:16:15 PM
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Maybe a compromise would be newbies are prohibited from making new threads outside beginners,  but can reply to existing threads.

+1. (If we are voting on it)

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March 07, 2014, 09:29:24 PM
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Maybe a compromise would be newbies are prohibited from making new threads outside beginners,  but can reply to existing threads.


+1. (If we are voting on it)

Count my vote in +1
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March 07, 2014, 09:47:39 PM
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Absolutely.  I didn't realize this restriction had been lifted, but I had been thinking the whitelisting was just a little bit too free lately.

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March 07, 2014, 09:52:23 PM
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Maybe a compromise would be newbies are prohibited from making new threads outside beginners,  but can reply to existing threads.


+1. (If we are voting on it)

Count my vote in +1

I support this idea 100% - if anyone cares, lol

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March 07, 2014, 09:59:59 PM
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I honestly haven't noticed a change (outside of less threads complaining about newbie restrictions), but I often frequented the newbies subforum, so I'm totally fine with keeping the restrictions lift in place.
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March 07, 2014, 10:52:28 PM
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How do you expect newer user's to meet the standard requirements needed to be a high quality user, when we are restricted to posting only once every 6 minutes? Not to mention private messaging is not allowed from what I see. It's saying I've posted already within the last 360 seconds (before this post) and won't let me message anybody. This is my first time online for the past month, having to wait 6 minutes to reply to a PM is pathetic.

Edit: Totally pathetic restrictions. I wait 90 seconds to search the forum for something specific, but have to wait ANOTHER 90 SECONDS TO VIEW THE SECOND PAGE OF RESULTS.

Yeah, this forum's a joke.
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March 08, 2014, 12:17:09 AM
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How do you expect newer user's to meet the standard requirements needed to be a high quality user, when we are restricted to posting only once every 6 minutes? Not to mention private messaging is not allowed from what I see. It's saying I've posted already within the last 360 seconds (before this post) and won't let me message anybody. This is my first time online for the past month, having to wait 6 minutes to reply to a PM is pathetic.

Wasnt a problem for me or thousands of other members who were newbs when restrictions were in place...

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How do you expect newer user's to meet the standard requirements needed to be a high quality user, when we are restricted to posting only once every 6 minutes? Not to mention private messaging is not allowed from what I see. It's saying I've posted already within the last 360 seconds (before this post) and won't let me message anybody. This is my first time online for the past month, having to wait 6 minutes to reply to a PM is pathetic.

Wasnt a problem for me or thousands of other members who were newbs when restrictions were in place...

Well, I won't say it wasn't a problem, but it was bearable, and finite, and in good cause.  Blast away with useless posts in the noob area, and get it out of your system. By then the requirements will be met, and you can contribute elsewhere at will, or be ignored (best forum feature EVER).
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I do not mind the spamming as much. It is the ponzis, malware, and suspcious links from zero post newbies that bothered me.
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March 08, 2014, 12:55:53 AM
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More scam threads are popping up from newly registered threads. Theymos stop this!

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New members should pay like 0.01 BTC to register. There are many faucets, there are many exchanges and hardly anyone comes here anymore
for reasons other than to make money. With everything that has to do with making money there are initial costs so why make it 0 with Bitcoin?

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March 08, 2014, 01:03:51 AM
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New members should pay like 0.01 BTC to register.

Haha. In that case, only scammers are going to join... They will pay 0.01 BTC and then use their ponzi to make 1-2 BTC...

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New members should pay like 0.01 BTC to register.

Haha. In that case, only scammers are going to join... They will pay 0.01 BTC and then use their ponzi to make 1-2 BTC...

Then you ban their ponzi schemes and thus hurt their wallets. After a while most of them will give up. Right now there is almost no cost to register
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March 08, 2014, 01:06:17 AM
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New members should pay like 0.01 BTC to register.

Haha. In that case, only scammers are going to join... They will pay 0.01 BTC and then use their ponzi to make 1-2 BTC...

Then you ban their ponzi schemes and thus hurt their wallets. After a while most of them will give up.

This is a community forum. I dont think mods/theymos will delete posts like that.

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This is theymos pissyard. Too bad such retard became owner of main Bitcoin forum.

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March 08, 2014, 01:11:29 AM
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This is theymos pissyard. Too bad such retard became owner of main Bitcoin forum.

Retard?!?! Most forum usually fail after huge attacks, hacks, or a lack of funds. I am surprised that this forum actually survived for so long.

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This is theymos pissyard. Too bad such retard became owner of main Bitcoin forum.

Retard?!?! Most forum usually fail after huge attacks, hacks, or a lack of funds. I am surprised that this forum actually survived for so long.

Technical expertise is a clear sign of incompetence elsewhere.

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This is theymos pissyard. Too bad such retard became owner of main Bitcoin forum.

Retard?!?! Most forum usually fail after huge attacks, hacks, or a lack of funds. I am surprised that this forum actually survived for so long.

Technical expertise is a clear sign of incompetence elsewhere.

Huh

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March 08, 2014, 01:14:24 AM
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Maybe newbies could start with full access, as now, but be kicked into newbie jail if they hit a certain ratio of ignores to posts.

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What, you wanna tell me theymos is perfect? I could prove it to you easily why he is running this forum badly but it is pointless because he himself
and most who have power around here do not care.

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March 08, 2014, 01:16:58 AM
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What, you wanna tell me theymos is perfect? I could prove it to you easily why he is running this forum badly but it is pointless because he himself
and most who have power around here do not care.

Im not saying he is perfect, I am saying he is better than most people.

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March 08, 2014, 01:27:17 AM
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How do you expect newer user's to meet the standard requirements needed to be a high quality user, when we are restricted to posting only once every 6 minutes? Not to mention private messaging is not allowed from what I see. It's saying I've posted already within the last 360 seconds (before this post) and won't let me message anybody. This is my first time online for the past month, having to wait 6 minutes to reply to a PM is pathetic.

Edit: Totally pathetic restrictions. I wait 90 seconds to search the forum for something specific, but have to wait ANOTHER 90 SECONDS TO VIEW THE SECOND PAGE OF RESULTS.

Yeah, this forum's a joke.

Yes, this is very annoying. Seems the counter is reset after logging in, so you have to wait 6 minutes after that before you can reply. And in this time, you have of course already tried to post and reset the counter. And of top of this there is the error saying "Ops you already posted this" even though you didn't. And this of course also resets the counter. I figured the only way to get around this is to logout and in again, wait 6 minutes and try to post a third time.

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March 08, 2014, 02:01:07 AM
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What's wrong with new people asking questions? Maybe they see yer activity level and ASSUME you must know what yer talking about. What a bunch of assholes! Too bad you can't cast a spell like in WOW right?

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March 08, 2014, 02:08:34 AM
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I see a ton of newbies creating threads in various places throughout the forum solely to advertise their reflink...

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March 08, 2014, 02:17:03 AM
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Absolutely should be restricted. The forums have the feel of a dirty carnival right now.
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it is def. time newbie restrictions were brought back on

newly created accounts are worth fuck all now

you have killed off an entire industry

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March 08, 2014, 02:48:30 AM
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it is def. time newbie restrictions were brought back on

newly created accounts are worth fuck all now

you have killed off an entire industry

How much were they worth before? Some numbers please.
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March 08, 2014, 03:52:19 AM
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Aside from the reinstatement of newb jail, I would also like to see them restricted from creating ANN threads.

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March 08, 2014, 04:27:43 AM
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Aside from the reinstatement of newb jail, I would also like to see them restricted from creating ANN threads.

How will they announce new alt coins then?
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March 08, 2014, 04:28:43 AM
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Aside from the reinstatement of newb jail, I would also like to see them restricted from creating ANN threads.

How will they announce new alt coins then?

They would wait...

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March 08, 2014, 04:42:11 AM
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Aside from the reinstatement of newb jail, I would also like to see them restricted from creating ANN threads.

How will they announce new alt coins then?

They would wait...

What??! Not fair! The only reason anyone signs up here is to announce a new shit coin.
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March 08, 2014, 04:43:12 AM
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Aside from the reinstatement of newb jail, I would also like to see them restricted from creating ANN threads.

How will they announce new alt coins then?

They would wait...

What??! Not fair! The only reason anyone signs up here is to announce a new shit coin.

Well we are trying to reduce "shit" on the forum anyways...

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March 08, 2014, 05:21:32 AM
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Well we are trying to reduce "shit" on the forum anyways...

If you adopt such a hardline stance it will lead to a shortage of alt-coins. Oh the horrors!
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March 08, 2014, 05:43:40 AM
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Well we are trying to reduce "shit" on the forum anyways...

If you adopt such a hardline stance it will lead to a shortage of alt-coins. Oh the horrors!

Why not start your own forum?

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March 08, 2014, 10:39:10 AM
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This is the kind of newbie post i was talking about, is there anything mods can do?

New users selling email and password database:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=506615
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March 08, 2014, 12:11:14 PM
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I agree with newbies restriction, a lot of scam and virus pushing from them in the last weeks..

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March 08, 2014, 12:22:09 PM
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I'm a newbie and I agree, at least there would be a bit less advertising/scam spam on here.
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March 09, 2014, 02:14:17 AM
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They would wait...

wait and do what, take part in a community reading and avoiding previous mistakes instead of endlessly going for the moneyshot.   You dream big


I can remember being a noob and it wasnt a massive deal.  The noob section is fairly well populated and frequented by 'real' forum users.    It is the most harsh deal Ive seen for new users on a forum but due to the nature of the business I understand its for the best now.
Its only a real pain for people who have no real question or threads to read on a subject new to them; mostly because they arent new at all.  Thats fine

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March 09, 2014, 04:00:30 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507982.0 Another scam attempt from newbie.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507982.0 Another scam attempt from newbie.

If we're making a list, no one'd have time to read it.  There are new ones every few minutes in the Marketplace

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I believe they should be restricted to they reach jr member.  I had to wait to get membership at this site, plus wait in jail.

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March 09, 2014, 06:21:17 PM
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I think earlier newbie restriction was too strict and instead of moving back to it if only we can restrict newbies from creating new threads most of the current issues would be resolved and at the same time the restrictions will be acceptable.
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March 09, 2014, 06:44:42 PM
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I went through the Newbie Jail and it just took a bit of patience.

Thread starting ban sounds good as it will hopefully make them read and search.

Like below post. How sodding hard is it to search for one of the 8000 posts where people have already ( including me cos I run them ) told people what PSU runs an S1 Antminer for God's sake.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=508289.0;topicseen

We need a bit of education for them. Read, Search, Read some more and if you still can't find it ask.
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I went through the Newbie Jail and it just took a bit of patience.

Anyone who is into cryptocoins short or long-term will not find it hard to wait to exit newbie jail. Everyone else is provably working against cryptos,
one way or another, with eventual exception of people who are already into community and not active on forum but have some major news to post.
Like local event or something, stuff no one else could know and thus post here, so opening News section for newbies might be actualy useful.

I still think 0.01 BTC payment to join this forum would help the most. BTC earned could be used to hire some (more) professional forum moderators
or even pay known people doing investigations around here so that they become extra motivated to check new user backgrounds, claims and so on.

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I still think 0.01 BTC payment to join this forum would help the most.

It is very difficult to get 0.01 nowadays, even when its value is just $6. It takes absolutely ages from faucets, impossible to mine from cpu, months from first gen asics, or may be a 50 mile drive to a bitcoin shop or atm.

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I still think 0.01 BTC payment to join this forum would help the most.

It is very difficult to get 0.01 nowadays, even when its value is just $6. It takes absolutely ages from faucets, impossible to mine from cpu, months from first gen asics, or may be a 50 mile drive to a bitcoin shop or atm.

Fiat > BTC, of course. Increase demand for BTC. To allow free entrance here works directly against demand increase and on top of it all we have scam
shits going around every day! Cost to attempt scamming? Almost zero. What to do with scammed coins? Most likely sell for fiat, putting preasure
on major coins, those one can convert to fiat. So in the end very little good comes from free access to this forum. The number of damaging posts from
newbies exceeds number of beneficial posts by massive percentage.

Newbies are allowed to post links to supposedly cryptocoin GUI clients (Qt) and other executables and suspicious stuff like infecting people computers
is no big deal for Bitcoin. It is so because we need more "Bitcoins scammed!" articles in media, right?

Liberal mindset was appropriate around here but it is no more, at least not when it comes to forum moderation ... it will backfire badly sooner or later
and then bullshits like "Use your brain!" will become just echoes of failed management.

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March 09, 2014, 07:21:49 PM
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Oh I agree with newbie scams being a problem, my previous comments in this thread acknowledged that. I am just saying a membership fee of 0.01 is forbiddingly high for someone who genuinely wants to seek help from users here.
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March 09, 2014, 08:11:51 PM
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I still think 0.01 BTC payment to join this forum would help the most.

It is very difficult to get 0.01 nowadays, even when its value is just $6. It takes absolutely ages from faucets, impossible to mine from cpu, months from first gen asics, or may be a 50 mile drive to a bitcoin shop or atm.



$6 to join is to me quite reasonable. Here in the U.K. that equates to only £3.59. Christ I spend that on a paperback book to read up on things. Also for people to get information they could do what I did. I read lots of stuff on here and got lots of valuable information without needing to join. I only joined recently as I wanted to help put a bit of what I have learned back into help.
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March 09, 2014, 08:12:39 PM
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I still think 0.01 BTC payment to join this forum would help the most.

It is very difficult to get 0.01 nowadays, even when its value is just $6. It takes absolutely ages from faucets, impossible to mine from cpu, months from first gen asics, or may be a 50 mile drive to a bitcoin shop or atm.



$6 to join is to me quite reasonable. Here in the U.K. that equates to only £3.59. Christ I spend that on a paperback book to read up on things. Also for people to get information they could do what I did. I read lots of stuff on here and got lots of valuable information without needing to join. I only joined recently as I wanted to help put a bit of what I have learned back into help.

Just for the record, Theymos would never do that and I am glad that you guys dont own the forum...

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If I had to pay, I wouldn't have joined this forum (mainly because at the time I didn't know how Bitcoin worked).

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$6 to join is to me quite reasonable. Here in the U.K. that equates to only £3.59. Christ I spend that on a paperback book to read up on things. Also for people to get information they could do what I did. I read lots of stuff on here and got lots of valuable information without needing to join. I only joined recently as I wanted to help put a bit of what I have learned back into help.

Just for the record, Theymos would never do that and I am glad that you guys dont own the forum...

Never? Oblivious to truth, obviously, but I'll let you sleep more. Just continue thinking there is something that does not change sooner or later, because
of one reason or another.

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$6 to join is to me quite reasonable. Here in the U.K. that equates to only £3.59. Christ I spend that on a paperback book to read up on things. Also for people to get information they could do what I did. I read lots of stuff on here and got lots of valuable information without needing to join. I only joined recently as I wanted to help put a bit of what I have learned back into help.

Just for the record, Theymos would never do that and I am glad that you guys dont own the forum...

Never? Oblivious to truth, obviously, but I'll let you sleep more. Just continue thinking there is something that does not change sooner or later, because
of one reason or another.

If this forum did charge money the bounce rate would go like crazy. Maybe only 1% will actually register. This forum was meant to be free, and will probably be free for the rest of its life. Why dont you create a separate thread and see how many people support your idea.

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I think earlier newbie restriction was too strict and instead of moving back to it if only we can restrict newbies from creating new threads most of the current issues would be resolved and at the same time the restrictions will be acceptable.
I'm a newbie and I could agree with this. Usually I only have a question to an existing subject. The only negative I can see is that a knowledgeable person who is also a newbie wouldn't be able to contribute and that actually restricts the flow of new ideas for the whole group. I have a newbie question however, how do I emerge from newbie to jr member?

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March 10, 2014, 11:39:23 PM
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I think earlier newbie restriction was too strict and instead of moving back to it if only we can restrict newbies from creating new threads most of the current issues would be resolved and at the same time the restrictions will be acceptable.
I'm a newbie and I could agree with this. Usually I only have a question to an existing subject. The only negative I can see is that a knowledgeable person who is also a newbie wouldn't be able to contribute and that actually restricts the flow of new ideas for the whole group. I have a newbie question however, how do I emerge from newbie to jr member?

^^^ There are a lot of questions asked in the newbie section... The expert can simply answer those for the time being...

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Newbies have to be restricted. This is my proposal:

My idea is to implement a reputation score starting at 0 for newly created accounts. They can post anywhere but in the Markeplace section and can't send PMs. Whenever a member finds a post worthwhile, they can click on the button near the post to give some reputation points to its author. While a member has a reputation score < n, the Marketplace section and PMs are off limits to him/her.

In order to avoid abuse, newly created accounts have a reputation power (the number of rep points left on each click) of 0, so that scammers can't create multiple accounts with the sole purpose of giving each other rep points.

Also, each member category may have a different reputation power: x for Jr Members, y for Members, z for Sr Members, etc.

This way only people with a minimum threshold of quality contribution to the forum are entitled to the Markeplace section and PMs = 95% of scam attempts instantly gone.

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Yes! I am sick of all these users with 0 posts posting shit in Bitcoin Discussion board.

I don't see the harm in requiring 5 posts in the newbie section and spending 1 hour online.
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Maybe a compromise would be newbies are prohibited from making new threads outside beginners,  but can reply to existing threads.

yes this would be good some kinda restriction to starting threads
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I don't see the harm in requiring 5 posts in the newbie section and spending 1 hour online.

I would prefer it if they could have at least 28 activity before they could be able to start a topic. This would at least stop the crappy topics that are continually started in the wrong boards.
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Maybe a compromise would be newbies are prohibited from making new threads outside beginners,  but can reply to existing threads.

I endorse that. Make it happen.
People would still be able to participate in discussions no matter how new they were. (There is still this hella annoying post restriction for newbies to prevent spam, which I belive does it's job quite well.)  But they wouldn't be able to create their own. I believe this would truly decrease the "annoing" posts created by newcomers or even scammers.
 

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March 12, 2014, 11:42:17 PM
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BUMP!

We need to keep this thread at the top of the forum until something is done about it.  I am tired of reading garbage/spam posts from newbie accounts.


Maybe we should create a (really) deep embedded sub forum and name it something like "veteráni".  Hopefully all the new people would just ignore the the sub-forum.  It could be our secret hideout away from all the newbies!  Even better if it required a min post limit to enter!
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March 13, 2014, 12:46:01 AM
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1 hour online before you can reply
2 hours online before you can post a topic

Vouch system for expediting non-spammers through.

Or something like that.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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March 13, 2014, 07:00:44 PM
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I've already posted a few times about this in the other thread, the one that announced that newbie restrictions are lifted, but I'd like to summarize it once more here:

I would really love to see some form of a simplified 'approval' system for new users: Newbies are at first restricted to only post in a dedicated 'newbie' board, where ideally they should be asking questions about the protocol, how to securely set up a wallet, etc... just generally posting and showing that they can adhere to good form.

Now, any user who is a member for, say, 1 year or longer can go there and 'approve' a newly registered account. The standards for this 'approval' should be rather low: it doesn't mean we would only approve new accounts that made super-smart posts, but rather that if you see an account that has 5 or 10 posts, and is not yet approved, and you get the impression he's well behaved, you 'approve' him, i.e. he can post anywhere in the forum.

If that never happens, then after some time (say, 1 week maybe) the account is auto-approved.

The result would be that decently behaving new users would get approval more or less immediately after making a few posts in a restricted forum, and those who are too lazy to do that will eventually be able to post as well -- but hopefully the *impatient* trolls would have it harder.

The idea behind the above is a bit like how some of the Wikipedia projects have 'sighted' versions of articles: anyone can edit an article, but it takes an established account to confirm that an edit wasn't spam/trolling, and mark the article as 'sighted'.

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March 20, 2014, 01:33:52 AM
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Absolutely. Newbie's should be restricted and definitely should not be allowed to post on the Announcement pages to promote new shit coins. I have invested in some noob coins myself, after some considerably communication and research of the devs, but would trade it in a heartbeat to see the other 99 out of 100 threads that are B.S. be eliminated from this site.
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March 20, 2014, 01:10:28 PM
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there was an increase in "send x.xx btc and get xxxxx btc in return" in gambling section, it's still a gamble though with a 0.0000000000000000000 odds.
anyway restricting them encourage them to buy accounts and it doesn't matter.

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March 20, 2014, 01:12:56 PM
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"I'm sorry to say the lifting of the 'newbie' restrictions has made the board noticeably worse. To the point where I am seriously considering to stop using "my" subforum (speculation).

The number of new accounts aggressively opening useless threads is through the roof. I never had to put so many people on ignore as in the last week. And all of that, despite the subforum being run by a very competent mod (Blitz).

All in all, it really backfired, and I sincerely ask you to cohinsider adjusting your decision.

How about the following: Allow sub-forum mods to set a certain 'activity' value that a user has to have reached before he can post in this forum, and keep at least one forum unrestricted ('beginners' comes to mind), so the newbies can earn their activity points there.

I'm not proposing anything elitist here, so maybe you could rule out too high activity numbers being set for a sub-forum, but some "credence check" really seems necessary to keep signal/noise in acceptable levels."

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423995.msg5020743#msg5020743

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March 20, 2014, 09:06:02 PM
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faken newbies worst plague of bittalk.org should be restricted to 1 post per hour and no new topicos

plis send btc : 1Dh194qAHCejvAYtS54j2n5p6MoK85PmcQ
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March 22, 2014, 11:53:03 PM
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they must be restricted!!!
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March 24, 2014, 03:41:56 AM
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I vote yes.
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