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September 21, 2018, 02:14:30 PM
Last edit: September 22, 2018, 06:37:39 PM by Coolcryptovator
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Merit abuser profile link: Vinylriff

Theymos announced Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements September 17, 2018, 04:27:20 AM and above user start sending merit on September 17, 2018, 03:29:30 PM. All merit spending on ANN thread check his merit history . Merit send for upgrade Jr. Member.



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September 21, 2018, 05:42:33 PM
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There's a list in meta here: Suspected users that are abusing merit 3.0
I think it's still active since the original poster recently bumped this thread.
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September 21, 2018, 06:15:54 PM
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There's a list in meta here: Suspected users that are abusing merit 3.0
I think it's still active since the original poster recently bumped this thread.


Thanks. I saw now. I changed the title. Use not yet taged.

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September 22, 2018, 06:12:08 PM
Last edit: September 22, 2018, 06:37:04 PM by Coolcryptovator
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Case#2

profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=349558

He also spend merit on ANN thread;
Please check his merit history:


All merited user was demoted newbie Grin and he send 2 merit than merited user send 1 merit to others. Great thinking Wink


More interesting, HasHe merited user - LujitaUsa, Nuitusys, kelaxo76r and canatewo merited by Nuitusys they all bumping same thread on a row,

Thread link : http://archive.is/yQQgt


kelaxo76r mrited 2 user same day between 5 minutes gap . check history. Look like they plying with merit.

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September 25, 2018, 04:22:01 PM
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Merit abuser profile link: Vinylriff

Theymos announced Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements September 17, 2018, 04:27:20 AM and above user start sending merit on September 17, 2018, 03:29:30 PM. All merit spending on ANN thread check his merit history . Merit send for upgrade Jr. Member.



Hey there,

I reached out to you via PM and you asked me to comment on this thread Smiley.

Basically my argument is this:

I am asking why I have been painted a merit abuser, have you looked through each of the posts I gave merit to? each one of those posts, are in my opinion, decent posts as the serve to help the BitcoinTalk forum eco-system.

Each user is either sharing information that the Team has given in order to keep their BctTalk community informed. Or else is directly answering questions that users have about the project. These users ensure that the BctTalk community of each project can come to their respective thread and find the latest information on the project as well as know their questions will be answered.

This is why I am unsure why you given me negative trust, if I have made decent contributions to this forum, and I have received 25 s-merit, am I not free to share it with those who also serve the same function as I do to this forum? We all want the same thing here, I am not interested in garbage posts, only informative posts that bring people to this forum and keep them here, ensuring that they don't feel they have to go to Reddit or Telegram for their information.

I eagerly await your reply and I am looking forward to discussing this further.

Many thanks for your time so far
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September 25, 2018, 04:35:19 PM
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I am asking why I have been painted a merit abuser, have you looked through each of the posts I gave merit to? each one of those posts, are in my opinion, decent posts as the serve to help the BitcoinTalk forum eco-system.

Really ? I am wondering why you only found decent post on September 17, 2018. I surprised all decent post are on ANN thread Huh yes one thing decent on your merited post, all post are 4/5 line. This is the decent you are looking for ?
Just for remind ;

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.


I am not interested in garbage posts, only informative posts that bring people to this forum

Exactly.

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September 25, 2018, 04:44:49 PM
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I am asking why I have been painted a merit abuser, have you looked through each of the posts I gave merit to? each one of those posts, are in my opinion, decent posts as the serve to help the BitcoinTalk forum eco-system.

Really ? I am wondering why you only found decent post on September 17, 2018.
Just for remind ;

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.


As to why I only found them on the 17th of September it is because a number of accounts were demoted. These demoted accounts were not able to share images, sometimes when we are asked to share an update the Team will have an image attached to make the announcement more appealing etc.... I will share two example of what I mean, when I say that we share information and news to the BtcTalk Community so that they can stay up to date with the latest new/updates, two of these posts include images.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3043993.msg45147429#msg45147429
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2943168.msg44996446#msg44996446

On Sept 17th the accounts I merited lost the ability to post these types of updates with images, so in effect, they lost the ability to relay information from the Team to their respective BtcTalk Communities. This is what I mean when I say we all want the same thing here, for the correct information to be posted to the project threads so that we can keep the communities alive there.
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September 26, 2018, 12:24:01 PM
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Merit abuser profile link: Vinylriff

Theymos announced Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements September 17, 2018, 04:27:20 AM and above user start sending merit on September 17, 2018, 03:29:30 PM. All merit spending on ANN thread check his merit history . Merit send for upgrade Jr. Member.



One thing I have noticed as well is that you mention one of the reasons I abused my merit is because I gave it to posts on ANN threads. I am not sure what kind of image you have of these threads but I am guessing that you feel they are subject to bounty hunters boosts.

The issue here is that the Team's share their latest information via the ANN threads, I have no power over that. If they want to share news with the BitcoinTalk public they ask for it to be sent here. If you look through all those ANN threads you will see that we share the latest news from the respective teams there daily/weekly/monthly, depending on the activity of the Team.

I am looking forward to your response today, so that I can keep serving this forum and its various communities to the best of my ability. As at the moment I am limited with the negative trust I have received. If I am to share news it would not look good to do so with a negative trust account.
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October 03, 2018, 07:18:53 PM
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Merit abuser profile link: Vinylriff

Theymos announced Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements September 17, 2018, 04:27:20 AM and above user start sending merit on September 17, 2018, 03:29:30 PM. All merit spending on ANN thread check his merit history . Merit send for upgrade Jr. Member.



I have been informed that this matter will go no further as no one is open to debate and correction. I hope that anyone else that tries too service the communities of this forum will be meet with more open minds going forward.
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October 03, 2018, 07:51:00 PM
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I have been informed that this matter will go no further as no one is open to debate and correction. I hope that anyone else that tries too service the communities of this forum will be meet with more open minds going forward.
Say what, now?

I'm actually glad there are some DT members tagging merit abusers after the recent change.  I decided a while back not to make merit abuse my fight, but I've seen other members step up with the paint gun and that gives me a slick sense of pleasure in my acid heart.  It's almost comical how blatant some of the recent abuse has been, with accounts suddenly waking up and ranking up the de-ranked Jr. Members.

Vinylriff, who informed you of what?  Are you denying you abused the merit system?  It kind of is open for debate, even though your red trust isn't likely to be removed.  I'd love to hear your side of the story.

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October 03, 2018, 10:22:43 PM
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I have been informed that this matter will go no further as no one is open to debate and correction. I hope that anyone else that tries too service the communities of this forum will be meet with more open minds going forward.
Say what, now?

I'm actually glad there are some DT members tagging merit abusers after the recent change.  I decided a while back not to make merit abuse my fight, but I've seen other members step up with the paint gun and that gives me a slick sense of pleasure in my acid heart.  It's almost comical how blatant some of the recent abuse has been, with accounts suddenly waking up and ranking up the de-ranked Jr. Members.

Vinylriff, who informed you of what?  Are you denying you abused the merit system?  It kind of is open for debate, even though your red trust isn't likely to be removed.  I'd love to hear your side of the story.

My case is outlined above, long story short:

Anyone account I have given merit to is an account that relays information from a Project/Team to their respective BitcoinTalk thread. Either a Project gives an update and we share it on an ANN thread or else a member of the Community asks a question on the forum and we answer it. We do this to keep the communities here informed.

The problems outlined for my merit abuse are that:

- I gave merit to comments on ANN Threads
- I gave merit to some posts that are 3 - 4 lines

1 - The project decides that the ANN thread is where they want their information posted, we have no power over this
2 - Not all answers to questions posted are Whitepapers but the function of the answers remain the same, inform the communities here so that they can trust this forum as a source of information and not have to go to Telegram or Reddit.

The user Coolcryptovator has informed me today he will no longer speak to me on the issue although I have asked him, along with the other user that painted me a merit abuser, to discuss the matter on this thread.

I am not criticising the Merit Abuse system, if it works, then it works, but I feel in the face of certain circumstances the users should be open to context. For example, I cannot share updates nor respond to questions on this account any longer as I have negative trust. This means I cannot serve the communities here on the forum.

This is my side of the story and why I cannot understand why there cannot be a resolution to this. As I say above, we all want the same thing here, for the forum to thrive.

Thank you for listening.
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October 03, 2018, 10:27:49 PM
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I have been informed that this matter will go no further as no one is open to debate and correction. I hope that anyone else that tries too service the communities of this forum will be meet with more open minds going forward.
Say what, now?

I'm actually glad there are some DT members tagging merit abusers after the recent change.  I decided a while back not to make merit abuse my fight, but I've seen other members step up with the paint gun and that gives me a slick sense of pleasure in my acid heart.  It's almost comical how blatant some of the recent abuse has been, with accounts suddenly waking up and ranking up the de-ranked Jr. Members.

Vinylriff, who informed you of what?  Are you denying you abused the merit system?  It kind of is open for debate, even though your red trust isn't likely to be removed.  I'd love to hear your side of the story.

One thing I should add is that the demoted accounts were no longer to share images under the new rules. The problem here being that sometimes projects share news with images. Here are two examples from my account:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3043993.msg45147429#msg45147429
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2943168.msg44996446#msg44996446

This is the main reason I gave my merit away in such quick fashion.
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October 15, 2018, 06:57:31 AM
Last edit: October 18, 2018, 08:03:50 AM by mu_enrico
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Hi there, could anyone check/tag members on this list? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5048166.msg46892627#msg46892627
We have compiled suspected merit abusers on Indonesian local board.
Thanks!


Edit: It has been checked by local moderator, just want him to give more attention Grin
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