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September 24, 2018, 03:16:34 PM
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I received negative trust for an opinion by a legendary member.  Is this allowed on the forum?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1053331
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September 24, 2018, 03:20:05 PM
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I received negative trust for an opinion by a legendary member.  Is this allowed on the forum?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1053331
Yep. Everyone is allowed to give ratings, whether they are credible or not.

If you think Vod is hereby abusing his DT powers, (default trust), you can open up a thread in Reputation, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0

Which if considered valid by the "community/admins" (not entirely sure how it works), could remove him from DT1(?) and thus essentially voiding the effect of his rating.

(Although i doubt this is going to happen, looking at Vod's vast track record.)

EDIT: not sure what shitstorm this is going to create.  Undecided

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September 24, 2018, 03:22:29 PM
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I received negative trust for an opinion by a legendary member.  Is this allowed on the forum?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1053331
Yep. Everyone is allowed to give ratings, whether they are credible or not.

If you think Vod is hereby abusing his DT powers, (default trust), you can open up a thread in Reputation, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0

Which if valid, could remove him from DT1(?) and thus essentially voiding the effect of his rating.

(Although i doubt this is going to happen, looking at Vod's vast track record.)

Thanks for the advice.  I will give it a shot and hope the evidence speaks for itself.

Thanks again for the help I really appreciate it. 
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September 24, 2018, 03:44:04 PM
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EDIT: not sure what shitstorm this is going to create.  Undecided

Vod has negged notbatman, the OP of the Flat Earth thread. That caused some butthurt but the feedback remains and Vod is still in DT so I'd say joerogers8's chances are very slim. Posting stupid shit in Serious Discussion doesn't make it any less stupid.

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September 24, 2018, 03:46:18 PM
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EDIT: not sure what shitstorm this is going to create.  Undecided

What shitstorm?  

If the OP believes the earth is flat, he is incapable of reasonable thought and should not be trusted.
If he doesn't, he is a troll and (more relevant) a liar and should not be trusted.

It is not an "opinion" that the earth is flat.

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September 24, 2018, 03:56:42 PM
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I received negative trust for an opinion by a legendary member.  Is this allowed on the forum?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1053331

Don't you think you are breaking the below rule by your Post

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You can follow AdolfinWolf suggestions, but I will say  talk to Vod before about it and ask him what behavior might get it removed.

One of the Vod quote from the topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=887515.0
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September 24, 2018, 04:46:33 PM
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If the OP believes the earth is flat, he is incapable of reasonable thought and should not be trusted.

I don't agree with that statement.  The ability to think critically or rationally isn't inherently tied to one's trustworthiness, in my not so humble opinion.

Of course the earth is round, more than 7000 years old, and orbits the sun.  I know all these things, but a lot of people choose to argue these facts due to their spiritual beliefs, lack of knowledge, or learning disabilities.  I don't think that automatically makes them untrustworthy.
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September 24, 2018, 05:01:12 PM
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EDIT: not sure what shitstorm this is going to create.  Undecided

What shitstorm?  

If the OP believes the earth is flat, he is incapable of reasonable thought and should not be trusted.
If he doesn't, he is a troll and (more relevant) a liar and should not be trusted.

It is not an "opinion" that the earth is flat.

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September 24, 2018, 05:02:34 PM
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If the OP believes the earth is flat, he is incapable of reasonable thought and should not be trusted.

I don't agree with that statement.  The ability to think critically or rationally isn't inherently tied to one's trustworthiness, in my not so humble opinion.

Of course the earth is round, more than 7000 years old, and orbits the sun.  I know all these things, but a lot of people choose to argue these facts due to their spiritual beliefs, lack of knowledge, or learning disabilities.  I don't think that automatically makes them untrustworthy.

Whether or not the earth is flat is irrelevant.
What is relevant is that joe got a red flag because of an opinion.

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September 24, 2018, 05:04:23 PM
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What is relevant is that joe got a red flag because of an opinion.

It is not an opinion that the earth is flat any more than it is the opinion that the moon is made of cheese.  :/

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September 24, 2018, 05:05:35 PM
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What is relevant is that joe got a red flag because of an opinion.

It is not an opinion that the earth is flat any more than it is the opinion that the moon is made of cheese.  :/

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opinion (ə-pĭnˈyən)►

    n.
    A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: "The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion” ( Elizabeth Drew).
    n.
    A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion.
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    A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing: has a low opinion of braggarts.

The english dictionary disagrees.
It is most certainly an opinion.

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September 24, 2018, 05:16:42 PM
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You posted this in Serious Discussion of all places. It should immediately be moved to Off-Topic.

It's pretty much a clear cut case of trolling in my book. Not that my book has much authority in these matters.

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September 24, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
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The english dictionary disagrees.
It is most certainly an opinion.

Can you have an opinion against something factual?

Is my opinion really an opinion if I claim tiny trolls are holding us down so we don't fly off the earth?

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The english dictionary disagrees.
It is most certainly an opinion.

Can you have an opinion against something factual?

Is my opinion really an opinion if I claim tiny trolls are holding us down so we don't fly off the earth?


Yes.
That's why it's an opinion and not a fact.
If you opinion means jack shit it doesn't change the fact that it's an opinion.

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September 24, 2018, 05:28:10 PM
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Yes.
That's why it's an opinion and not a fact.
If you opinion means jack shit it doesn't change the fact that it's an opinion.

Well, I disagree.   Sad

I believe you cannot have an opinion that the sun emits purple light.

Opinions should have something to base the opinion on...

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Of course the earth is round, more than 7000 years old, and orbits the sun.

I'm curious why did you pick exactly 7000? Likely missing a few 0s' at the end.  Roll Eyes

On topic, this is how i see things lol

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/253/818/086.jpg

Oh, wait...dinosaurs?  Cheesy

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September 24, 2018, 05:37:24 PM
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Of course the earth is round, more than 7000 years old, and orbits the sun.

I'm curious why did you pick exactly 7000? Likely missing a few 0s' at the end.  Roll Eyes


To disrespect the Abrahamic faiths because he is a heathen.

God made the world 7,000 years ago, but I will concede that He made it round.
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I don't agree with that statement.  The ability to think critically or rationally isn't inherently tied to one's trustworthiness, in my not so humble opinion.
As much as I respect Vod--and I respect him a great deal--I think he probably shouldn't have left that feedback for the reason he gave. 

Obviously joerogers8 is delusional if he thinks the Earth is flat, but I think his views on that are only loosely related to trust on bitcointalk.  There are a lot of folks who hold some very strange ideas, including religious people.  You could argue that Christians, Muslims, and Jews live their lives based on a book of fairy tales, but would I give them a neg on the forum?  No, not at all.

However, Vod is entitled to his opinion and is free to give a neg to whoever he deems worthy of one.  He's also the only one who can remove it, so this is an issue between joerogers8 and Vod.  We can all give our opinion on it, but none of us can do anything about it.

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As much as I respect Vod--and I respect him a great deal--I think he probably shouldn't have left that feedback for the reason he gave. 

Thank you.

How can I trust someone who ignores all scientific laws?

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