Negative trust for an opinion?

[iluvbitcoins]

1. We red tag joe for believing in something that can be easily refuted

2. I can now red tag people who believe the moon landing was fake

3. I can now red tag people who believe 9/11 was an inside job

4. I can now red tag communists because there's irrefutable evidence around the world communism doesn't work

5. I can now red tag religious people for believing in an imaginary man on the sky

First of all yes you and any users can tag anyone you want for any reason.
Second Vod has not red tagged anyone for any of those reasons so your logic is specious.

Yes, he didn't.
But if we let this become socially acceptable, someone else will, and it's a matter of time when it's going to happen.

I would like to remind Vod of one of his posts earlier
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2805176.msg28696741#msg28696741

Who knows, given some time you might even learn to tackle the argument, not just the person.

What the?
You guys were the ones who were calling him a retard, stupid etc. instead of explaining why his 'experiment' is fake and that isn't possible.

[Vod]

Can you pin-point the reply where he is blatantly lying?
I mean, as in lying, not having a different opinion.

In the flat earth thread, he claims he watched a ship go over the horizon and he brought it back with binoculars.

That is obviously a lie, because it's impossible.  :/

[iluvbitcoins]

Can you pin-point the reply where he is blatantly lying?
I mean, as in lying, not having a different opinion.

In the flat earth thread, he claims he watched a ship go over the horizon and he brought it back with binoculars.

That is obviously a lie, because it's impossible.  :/

Okay.

So, the correct wording should be:

The user has been caught lying. Trade with caution.

Or something along those lines. Not

Believes the earth is flat. I can't trust people with severe mental issues.

[Vod]

My feedback is factual and appropriate.

[suchmoon]

instead of explaining why his 'experiment' is fake and that isn't possible.

You're confused. There is nothing to explain to a liar. By definition the liar knows they're lying.

But if we let this become socially acceptable, someone else will, and it's a matter of time when it's going to happen.

By the same logic if we let lying become socially acceptable then... well, luckily for you the reality is not a black-and-white slippery slope so don't worry too much about that. We'll cross that bridge (or slope) when we get to it.

[Quickseller]

Can you pin-point the reply where he is blatantly lying?
I mean, as in lying, not having a different opinion.

In the flat earth thread, he claims he watched a ship go over the horizon and he brought it back with binoculars.

That is obviously a lie, because it's impossible.  :/

Okay.

So, the correct wording should be:

The user has been caught lying. Trade with caution.

Or something along those lines. Not

Believes the earth is flat. I can't trust people with severe mental issues.

The rating is absolutely wrong. His statements regarding what he did or did not see have absolutely nothing to do with him being a scammer and/or someone planning on scamming in the future.

The basis for any negative rating must ultimately be that the person is believed to be a scammer or someone who will scam in the future. The comment is only an explanation for this belief. The standard of “I don’t trust this person” is ridiculous and is an improper use of the trust system.

[iluvbitcoins]

My feedback is factual and appropriate.

Come on.
You know you don't really believe he has severe mental issues!

By the same logic if we let lying become socially acceptable then... well, luckily for you the reality is not a black-and-white slippery slope so don't worry too much about that. We'll cross that bridge (or slope) when we get to it.

He hasn't been negged for lying but for believing that Earth is flat.

[suchmoon]

The basis for any negative rating must ultimately be that the person is believed to be a scammer or someone who will scam in the future. The comment is only an explanation for this belief. The standard of “I don’t trust this person” is ridiculous and is an improper use of the trust system.

Projecting again? You literally posted such a rating without reference. Vod has articulated a reason why he thinks the OP can't be trusted.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=358020


Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image

[cabalism13]

I think you should get a new thread for these things.
It's kinda like iluvbitcoins is the one whose being convicted here. The OP isn't here anymore as I can conclude, and everybody now has being triggered by iluvbitcoins.

Doesn't know  if he too believes the same thing as the OP does. Or just another second the motion thing that Vod is actually doing blatant things that can't hardly be accepted by these people?

A funny thing that these has been gone into conversation of twigs.

Move on people. Trust System doesn't work always within your side. It's just a common thing whether a user trust you or not, and same goes for the next person whose gonna do some transactions into your account.
It's not a big deal for the OP, besides his not doing any transactions here. (Added: it may be a big deal if he is joining campaigns )

(Well if some will ever tagged me then I suggest to have a -9999 trust score for being a troll - that would be awesome ... Now I'm curious how did someone get that -9999 with just a few feedbacks, if you know who I'm talking about )

Edited:
So far I don't see that the Trust System is being abused by Vod. ( and I wouldn't also lie about how this damn planet actually looks like ... it isnt flat and it also wasn't a sphere or circle... it is an oblate spheroid (based on my science teacher who already died long time ago ) )

[Flying Hellfish]

What the?
You guys were the ones who were calling him a retard,

To be fair to the other posters in the thread who may be a little more politically correct than me.  I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who called him a retard.  I stand behind that statement in fact I may have given him too much credit because most retards can look at a picture and identify a round object.  The OP for some reason doesn't even have the ability to do that simple task!

[suchmoon]

What the?
You guys were the ones who were calling him a retard,

To be fair to the other posters in the thread who may be a little more politically correct than me.  I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who called him a retard.  I stand behind that statement in fact I may have given him too much credit because most retards can look at a picture and identify a round object.  The OP for some reason doesn't even have the ability to do that simple task!

It looks like the OP took your diagnosis seriously and has gone full retard:

Hey this is the dumbass that couldn't get the simple video I was talking about from above.  LOL.  Watch out notbatman.  This guy is a real tool. 

I also realized Vod is an overweight Canuck.  We should take it easy on him.  He's Canadian.  Our retarded cousin to the North.  Vod has an excuse.  Not sure about the other dumbass though. 

It takes a special kind of shithead to insult someone for being Canadian.

[iluvbitcoins]

Okay, I'm out.
Could report that post, insults without any constructive info behind are deleted sometimes..

[OgNasty]

We don't want a community where people are afraid to state their opinions for fear of retaliation...

[Vod]

Come on.
You know you don't really believe he has severe mental issues!

With all due respect, I do believe he has mental issues.  The guy is calling me a retard for posting a simple fact a preschooler knows.  :/

We don't want a community where people are afraid to state their opinions for fear of retaliation...

Agreed.  But there should be consequences where a person constantly lies i an attempt to confuse people.

[Tszunami98]

It looks like the OP took your diagnosis seriously and has gone full retard:

How does this come as a surprise to you? How would you expect someone to behave when he is trapped into a corner and bullied?
Y'all behaved like a 12 year old bully, obviously you don't have credibility no matter what you say.
People who behave like that are usually invisible, their opinion is not respected (IRL or internet in this case) and they tend to communicate by ridiculing and putting the other person down. If this is the image you want for yourself then go right ahead, but you my want to take a look inside at those unfulfilled emotions that emerge from a rough childhood. If you don't, you will, sadly, never grow up and you will be just another one of those people with a little child stuck in grown man body.

On the side note, it is pretty shamefull you keep throwing merits back and forth on who insults the guy better, yet you gang up like Kim Jong Un's army on newbies for every merit they get.
Maybe the reason why there are so many problems in this forum (that everyone knows) is that there are too many rotten tomatoes in the leadership department.

At this point you are just like that guy...you are looking at a picture with the round earth and saying it's flat.
What is obvious is obvious and is clearly you don't have sufficient intelectual capacity to understand that or you just don't have the will to do it.

I'll just crawl back from where i came from, this is literally way beneath me.
Tszunami out!

[Vod]

A 12 year old would have the common sense to admit he was lying when confronted by everyone.

I'll just crawl back from where i came from, this is literally way beneth me.

I literally cried myself to death when I read that. 

[Vod]

Projecting again? You literally posted such a rating without reference. Vod has articulated a reason why he thinks the OP can't be trusted.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=358020

It would be nice if someone could compile the long list of times Quickseller has told others not to do what he does (hypocrite). I've lost count.

That would be meritable post. 

[marlboroza]

New conspiracy theory incoming:

Bitcoin enslaved us

Part one: Kids - create your own slave

If we don't even know where we live and only rely on what we are told how can we judge who is behind Bitcoin and what their intentions are?  I love Bitcoin and use it every chance I get.  I spend 1 to 2 hrs a day teaching my son about crypto/trading however if I don't know where I live, how do I know the main motivation behind Bitcoin.  Are we slowly setting up our friends, family and countrymen to be victims of the blockchain (public ledger).  Crypto seems wonderful right now and the freedom that it provides is second to none.  However, is there a more sinister plot at hand here such as a plan to tie us all down to our wallets (kyc/blockchain identity projects).  If this begins to happen I feel like crypto can be used to enslave us all under the disguise of freeing us.  Bankers and government love to do this to us.  You know they want a one world currency.  What would be better than to have a one world currency + a taxing mechanism to steal form us.

[Vod]

Oh man this guy has a child, I already have pity for the amount of bullying he must endure.

One time my dad told me that grape vines were actually alien tentacles and they would snatch my little brother if I let him get too close to them. Really he just wanted to protect his wine grapes while using me as a goof. I forgave him for that, but I'm not sure if I could forgive him for insisting on home schooling me while teaching me the earth wasn't round.

Yeah, he needs to watch it.  All children explicitly trust their parents because they depend on them.

Unless his mental retardation was passed onto his child, eventually the kid will realize his dad is a nut job, and he will lose respect for him.  :/

He slipped in the other thread, and wrote that airplanes disappear over the horizon.  Impossible on a flat earth... it would slowly fade into the "fog" in the middle of the sky.   Same as the sun.  Same as the moon.  Yet everything sets on the horizon - proving rotation. 

I'm sure he will continue even though he has been exposed as a troll. 

[suchmoon]

On the side note, it is pretty shamefull you keep throwing merits back and forth on who insults the guy better

You might want to take a look at who sent you merits for your diatribe... the king of hypocrisy himself.

Ridiculous shit gets ridiculed all the time IRL too. It's the intertubes that gives all sorts of whackos the impression that they're not alone therefore their delusions have merit (pun intended). Newsflash - no.