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September 26, 2018, 10:23:18 PM
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Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

i have no problem with cirsumcision, its not bad necesarily, has also advantages.



Are you fucking retarded? It has ZERO benefits, ITS MUTILATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it removes male pleasure from sexuality for the rest of his life, this can have advantages.

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September 26, 2018, 10:24:46 PM
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Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I am a Muslim and I am not the problem. All around I see a siege being laid for the Muslims of this country. Government, TV media, social media – everywhere there is a cacophony around the Muslims.

This cacophony is the problem. I am not the problem.

Hate is being mainstreamed by the very people responsible to maintain harmony, to bridge divides.

This hate is the problem. I am not the problem.


Everywhere you go, where there's a lot of immigirants, the locals dislike them
It's not about being Muslim, it's about being n immigrant and taking over someone elses land
I'm not even talking about people of different nationalities or religions
People of the same nationality and religion are hated upon if they move in big numbers to a certain territory
The locals dislike them, because they're threatened

The most common name given to a baby in London is Mohammad, that says enough.

there is no problem with immigrants if immigration is well managed, immigrants also make countries richer, much much richer, there are countless examples for that

usa, europe, gulf states, australia, latin america, russia etc.

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September 26, 2018, 11:21:54 PM
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Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

A lot of us have suffered from Muslim haters, too. So don't play the innocent victim please.

Today Western people know what Takiyya is. They know Muslims will lie over and over when it suits them.

I have many Muslim friends and associates and we see pretty much the same regarding violent extremist Muslims.

Are you serious, Takiya is another thing, Muslim Chiite use this Takiya not all the muslims, and I am not playing the victim, I am just discussing a problem

Thank you
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September 26, 2018, 11:38:03 PM
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Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

And because of circumcision you hate muslim? You clearly set the bar for intellectual depthness about muslim

Circumcision is practised by cultures not just because of religious belief. This kind of statement and mentality promotes hatred not just against race or religion but people itself.

If you don't have anything good to say, just stay away with these kinds of discussion buddy. You're opiniom entitlement ends once others right starts.

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September 26, 2018, 11:42:35 PM
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There's a problem. The fact that you believe in an almighty deity is just bonkers.

Your religion, and all religion just breeds hate and division. To deny free thinkers the right of thought is absolutely wrong. Indoctrination of your children with nonsense fairy tales is wrong.

Believing a pedophile is your prophet is wrong.

Yes, there's a problem, but not because you're Muslim, but because you're a theist.

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September 27, 2018, 12:14:26 AM
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Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I am an American born person.

1 Norwegian grandparent.
3 Italian grandparents.

Raised catholic.

I don’t hate you.

But in my childhood neighborhood Italian American 95% catholic if I was asked to do a favor I kind of had to do the favor or look over my shoulder quite a bit.

In my neighborhood 90% of us or more were not in the position to ask for favors we had to do them when asked.

Most often we were not asked to do them and peace was more common then not.

I think most people that did not grow up in my type of neighborhood don’t have any idea of what it is like to grow up that way.

Since I was able to leave my old neighborhood when I grew up I did.

I think a lot of people believe most Muslims are good people but that if asked to do a favor they may feel like I used to feel.  Which is I better do what they ask me or me and my family will suffer.

Truth is. Percentage wise this is rare.  If there were only 38000 events of Muslim terror since 2001. That is a small number.  as 1,300,000,000/38,000 is 31,000 to 1 chance a Muslim picked at random will do a Terriost act in the next 17 years.

Pretty good odds that the average Muslim won’t do it.

But people fear that you may support the act if you are asked to do it.

Btw in the USA multiple terriost were reported to the fbi by family members and the fbi did zip nothing nada.

So I feel for you buddy.  Maybe one day people will grow up. Stop the crazy and act nice to each other.

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September 27, 2018, 12:32:37 AM
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Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

And because of circumcision you hate muslim? You clearly set the bar for intellectual depthness about muslim

Circumcision is practised by cultures not just because of religious belief. This kind of statement and mentality promotes hatred not just against race or religion but people itself.

If you don't have anything good to say, just stay away with these kinds of discussion buddy. You're opiniom entitlement ends once others right starts.

Any person that supports genital mutilation deserves to fucking die.
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September 27, 2018, 07:01:37 AM
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I'm Muslim too, and I don't want other Muslims to get bad treatment from everyone. Muslims don't always teach violence or things that can harm others. I think terrorists are not real Muslims because Muslims will actually not want to hurt others and even kill others.
We all have the same right to free and independent life, free to do whatever we like without hurting others. Let's be friends whatever our religion, the color of our skin, from any country because the friendship and peace is a very beautiful thing to be passed on to our next generation.

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September 27, 2018, 11:34:37 AM
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Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I am a Muslim and I am not the problem. All around I see a siege being laid for the Muslims of this country. Government, TV media, social media – everywhere there is a cacophony around the Muslims.

This cacophony is the problem. I am not the problem.

Hate is being mainstreamed by the very people responsible to maintain harmony, to bridge divides.

This hate is the problem. I am not the problem.


Everywhere you go, where there's a lot of immigirants, the locals dislike them
It's not about being Muslim, it's about being n immigrant and taking over someone elses land
I'm not even talking about people of different nationalities or religions
People of the same nationality and religion are hated upon if they move in big numbers to a certain territory
The locals dislike them, because they're threatened

The most common name given to a baby in London is Mohammad, that says enough.

there is no problem with immigrants if immigration is well managed, immigrants also make countries richer, much much richer, there are countless examples for that

usa, europe, gulf states, australia, latin america, russia etc.

When migrants assimilate, no one is against them (mostly), but when there is mass immigration in which they create ghettos, hang out only with their own countryman and create basically a seperate society in your country,  dislike the host, that forms a problem.

If we import all of Africa to Europe, we're going to become Africa, and the Africans won't have a place to come to anymore, since our culture, which created this prosperity will be replaced by the newcomers culture which has failed to produce prosperity in their own countries.

In order to prosper from immigration it would be necessary for the migrants to adopt to our culture instead of maintaining the same culture that made them leave their country.

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September 27, 2018, 11:39:20 AM
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OP, as you can see taking a look at some of the quotes in here, the biggest problem is ignorance.
Nobody should be judged by the personal beliefs, but by the acts he/she makes. But, you know, the people are used to believe what the mainstream media is vomiting into their minds.

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September 27, 2018, 12:17:38 PM
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Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

The problem is simple. Most Muslims are barely Muslim. Why? Because they don't obey the Koran - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm. If they obeyed the Koran, they would be on eternal Jihad, just like ISIS.

So, the problem is this. When a Muslim is close to you, you don't know if he is a peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslim, or if he is a lying, Jihad Muslim, just waiting for the right time to pounce.

And here is the problem with peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslims. If a strong, jihad Muslim is in their presence, and he says, "Start fighting, right now, because the Koran says so, and if you don't, I will execute you, according to Koran dictates," what does the peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslim do? He fights or dies, right?

What does this mean? It means that any peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslim can be converted into a jihad Muslim, almost on a moment's notice. It's only the peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslims who don't understand this. The rest of the people understand. So they are scared of Muslims, and protest them right out of the rest of society.

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September 27, 2018, 12:40:59 PM
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Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

The problem is simple. Most Muslims are barely Muslim. Why? Because they don't obey the Koran - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm. If they obeyed the Koran, they would be on eternal Jihad, just like ISIS.

So, the problem is this. When a Muslim is close to you, you don't know if he is a peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslim, or if he is a lying, Jihad Muslim, just waiting for the right time to pounce.

And here is the problem with peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslims. If a strong, jihad Muslim is in their presence, and he says, "Start fighting, right now, because the Koran says so, and if you don't, I will execute you, according to Koran dictates," what does the peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslim do? He fights or dies, right?

What does this mean? It means that any peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslim can be converted into a jihad Muslim, almost on a moment's notice. It's only the peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslims who don't understand this. The rest of the people understand. So they are scared of Muslims, and protest them right out of the rest of society.

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I agree with you that this ideology is very coercive.  "You are either with us or against us" type of deal.

The death penalty for leaving Islam makes this religion very similar to mafia, with Allah being the "capo dei capi".

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September 27, 2018, 01:35:41 PM
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Are you serious, Takiya is another thing, Muslim Chiite use this Takiya not all the muslims, and I am not playing the victim, I am just discussing a problem

Thank you

Yes I am serious.

You do the right thing to explain that you are different from the bad Muslims. But that's your job to do that.

It's not someone else's duty to assume a stranger is peace-loving. And westerners have heard a lot of this before. "Oh, I am sunni, it is those Shiites who are the bad guys." And the other way around.

I might point out that a lot of Muslims think they are good, but they donate money to Hamas and believe it's right to kill all the Jews and the Great Satan (USA) blah-blah-blah.

You might keep in mind that many Westerners do not want to hear about religion, of any sort, including Islam. For many it's total nonsense to them.

Of course as I am sure you know the vast majority of Muslims do not really follow the teachings.

Does that make sense?
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September 27, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
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Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

i have no problem with cirsumcision, its not bad necesarily, has also advantages.



Are you fucking retarded? It has ZERO benefits, ITS MUTILATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree its a sick thing to do to a baby. The muslims do it to their women and call it female circumcision. When in fact all they are doing is cutting off their clitoris. It's no different than cutting a man's penis off.
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Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

i have no problem with cirsumcision, its not bad necesarily, has also advantages.



Are you fucking retarded? It has ZERO benefits, ITS MUTILATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree its a sick thing to do to a baby. The muslims do it to their women and call it female circumcision. When in fact all they are doing is cutting off their clitoris. It's no different than cutting a man's penis off.

Male circumcision is indicated for some medical conditions. However, routine circumcision of all male babies is not recommended by any medical organization anywhere in the world. I've always found it strange that religious people believe God created us "in his own image", but then decide that that's not good enough and have to start hacking bits off shortly after birth. Also, the practice of religions carrying out the procedure without anesthesia, pain relief, sterile operating practices, any professional training whatsoever, and it some cases using their mouths to suck blood out of the penis afterwards is nothing short of barbaric.

Female genital mutilation (lets use its proper term) has no positive effects whatsoever, but a plethora of negative ones. It is simply mutilation. It is barbaric and inhuman, and any civilized country would charge it as aggravated assault.
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Female genital mutilation (lets use its proper term) has no positive effects whatsoever, but a plethora of negative ones. It is simply mutilation. It is barbaric and inhuman, and any civilized country would charge it as aggravated assault.

But this is, if I recall correctly, not endemic to the Muslim world, but rather to certain cultures and nations.

Just to be fair.

The originator of this thread may find this practice as horrible as you.
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But this is, if I recall correctly, not endemic to the Muslim world, but rather to certain cultures and nations.

Just to be fair.

The originator of this thread may find this practice as horrible as you.

Agreed.

FGM is predominantly an African problem. The majority of FGM is practiced within Muslim societies in Africa, but it is also practiced within Christian societies within Africa. The Shafi'i madhhab is the only branch of any religion that requires FGM.

The country with the highest rate of FGM is Somalia at 98%. Somalia is >99% Muslim. However, Niger is also >99% Muslim, and only 2% of its population has undergone FGM. Indeed of the 0.3% Christian population in Niger, 55% have undergone FGM.

So as you say, although it is not endemic to all Muslims, the majority of practitioners are Muslim, although there is also a significant Christian component too.

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... there is also a significant Christian component too.


I did not know that...
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September 27, 2018, 06:20:18 PM
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In my opinion there is a serious problem with Muslims not islam.

Islam was meant to be a religion for all ages and in my opinion is compatible with 21st century values.

The real problem lies in Muslims themselves
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Islam ...in my opinion is compatible with 21st century values.
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How is that possible?
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