Mod which part you missed that you had to delete my post?

[mday_alt]

This is mdayonliner and I am posting this topic from my alt.

=> The topic was on the off-topic section. Obviously I am working on translation.
=> Trust page explains why I have created this alt.

My alt account.

I have created this account to help my native speakers. I will create topics in my local language from this alt account and then transfer the code to my main account.

I may give the credentials of this account to some other people too to help me to translate some of the important topics.

Please do not do any trading with this account.

My question: Why the following topic was deleted? I did not even get a PM at all(!) I never seen that much strict rules for off-topic section. Strange!

I was lucky that the post contents were on the draft section.

- Do I have the permission to create the topic on the off-topic section again since this post should work as a better explanation of what I am trying to do?

This is alt of mdayonliner

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বিঃদ্রঃ: এই পরিবেশনা কাজ করবে রেফারেন্স/শিক্ষণীয়/তথ্যগত বিষয়  হিসাবে, এটি কোন কঠিনভাবে মান্য করার দিকনির্দেশনা নয়।

সাম্প্রতিক সময়ে আমি লক্ষ্য করেছি অনেক নতুন মেম্বাররা সব নিয়ম জানে না এবং আমি স্বভাবত তাদের দোষ দেই না যেহেতু সব নির্দেশনা লিখা নয় এবং যেগুলো লিখা আছে তাও মেম্বারদের দ্বারা উপেক্ষিত যারা মনোযোগ দেয় না বোর্ডগুলোর স্টিকিগুলুতে। আশাকরি তারা এই টপিকে মনোযোগ দিবে, যেখানে আমি ফোরামের নিয়মগুলো তুলে ধরার চেষ্টা করব। আমি উৎসও (যদি জেনে থাকি) দেয়ার চেষ্টা করব। নিয়মগুলো কোন ক্রমিক দিয়ে সাজানো নয়, শুধু লিখা হবে যেভাবে পাওয়া গিয়েছে যদিও আমি চেষ্টা করব সাধারণ গুলোকে প্রথমে রাখতে।

টপিক পোস্ট করার দিকনির্দেশনা এবং এফএকিউ-ও সংযোজন করা হয়েছে। স্ক্রল ডাউন করতে থাকলেই পাবেন।

সংক্ষিপ্ত বিবরণ / বিষয়বস্তু টেবিল (পোস্টের যেকোন অংশে যেতে লিঙ্ক ক্লিক করুন):

ফোরাম নিয়ম
উদাহরণ / নিমের ব্যাখ্যা
সচরাচর জিজ্ঞাস্য (এফএকিউ)
টপিকের জন্য নির্দেশিকা
সোর্স
কৃতজ্ঞতা

লেজেন্ড:
[1] - নীচের উৎস সংখ্যা।
[e] - নীচের নিয়ম সম্পর্কে আরো উদাহরণ।
[?] - নিয়ম এখনও সক্রিয় আছে কি না তা যাচাই করা প্রয়োজন।

তালিকাটি কিছুটা সম্পূর্ণ হলেও আমি এখনও অনেক কিছু যুক্ত করতে পারি যদি নতুন কিছু পাই। ফর্ম্যাটিং, উত্স, ভুল, নিয়ম, তালিকা থেকে অপসারণ ইত্যাদির পরামর্শতে আমি অনেক ভাল অনুভব করব।

ফোরামের নিয়ম

১. কোন ধরনের শূন্য বা কম মান, মূল্যহীন বা অহেতুক পোস্ট বা থ্রেড গ্রহণযোগ্য না। [1][e]

২. অফ্-টপিক পোস্ট করবেন না।

৩. কোন ট্রোলিং (trolling) করবেন না।

৪. কোন রেফারেল কোড (রেফারেল লিংক) স্প্যাম করবেন না। [1]

৫. লিংক shorteners যেখানে অ্যাড দেখতে হয় তা গ্রহনযোগ্য নয়।

৬. সংগত কারন এবং সাবধানবাণী ছাড়া কোন ফিশিং (phishing) লিংক অথবা মালওয়ার গ্রহনযোগ্য নয়। [e]

৭. কোন ধরনের ভিক্ষা চাওয়া গ্রহনযোগ্য নয়। [5]

৮. শারীরিক ক্ষতি, মৃত্যুর হুমকি জাতীয় পোস্ট করবেন না।

৯. প্রধান বোর্ডের আলোচনা ইংরেজিতে হতে হবে। অন্যান ভাষার আলোচনা উপযুক্ত স্থানীয় বোর্ডে পোস্ট করা উচিত।

১০. কোথাও কোন NSFW ছবি পোস্ট করা যাবে না। NSFW কন্টেন্ট পোস্ট করলে তা চিহ্নিত করা আবশ্যক।

১১. অবৈধ ট্রেডিং, সাইট লিঙ্কিং গ্রহণযোগ্য নয়।

১২. একই পোস্ট একাধিক বোর্ডে পোস্ট করা যাবে না (স্থানীয় ভাষার বোর্ডগুলিতে এটি পুনরায় পোস্ট করার ব্যতীত - অনুবাদ)।

১৩. Bumps, "updates" এসব ২৪ ঘণ্টায় একবার করা যাবে।[2]

১৪. বিকল্পমুদ্রা সম্পর্কিত আলোচনা বিকল্পিক ক্রিপ্টোমুদ্রা (Alternate cryptocurrencies) এবং তার অন্তর্গত সাব-বোর্ডে হবে। [3][4][e]

১৫.  ফোরামের মধ্যে কোন বিকল্পমুদ্রা গিভএওয়ে (giveaways) গ্রহণযোগ্য নয়। [6][e]

১৬. একের অধিক সক্রিয় বিক্রয় টপিক কারেন্সি এক্সচেঞ্জ বাের্ডে গ্রহণযোগ্য নয়। [3]

১৭. পণ্যদ্রব্য যা বিক্রেতা বা ক্রেতার দেশে অবৈধ তা কেনাবেচা করা নিষিদ্ধ। [2]

১৮. একাধিক অ্যাকাউন্ট এবং অ্যাকাউন্ট বিক্রয় করার অনুমতি আছে, কিন্তু অ্যাকাউন্ট বিক্রয় নিরুৎসাহিত করা হয়।

১৯. সম্ভাব্য (বা বাস্তব) স্ক্যাম এবং ট্রাস্ট রেটিংগুলি মডারেট করা হয় না। (মডারেশন অপব্যবহার প্রতিরোধ করতে)।

২০. অ্যাকাউন্ট বিক্রি এবং ইনভাইটস্ এর জন্য ইনভাইট-অন্লি সাইটের সীমাবদ্ধতা আছে। দেখুন: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134779.0 <= অনুবাদ করার জন্য আমন্ত্রিত। [2][?]

২১. পুরাতন bumps মুছে ফেলা উচিৎ। [2]

২২. অন্যনের পোস্টের বিজ্ঞাপন (মাইনিং পুল, জুয়ার সেবা, বিনিময়, দোকান, ইত্যাদি অন্তর্ভুক্ত।) করার অনুমতি নাই, এটি সীমাবদ্ধ নয় altcoin announcement জাতীয় টপিকেও। [8]

২৩. কোনও মেম্বার যদি নিয়ম ভাঙে তবে সিদ্ধান্ত নেওয়ার জন্য স্টাফদের তাদের নিজ নিজ ব্যাখ্যা অনুসরণ করার অধিকার রয়েছে।[e]

২৪. পোস্টের ভিতরে বিজ্ঞাপন (পোস্টের ভিতরের সিগনেচার সহ) করার অনুমতি নাই যদিনা আপনার তৈরি করা টপিক হয় এবং আসলেই সারগর্ভ এবং দরকারী।[9][e]

২৫. বেন এভাশন (একটি একাউন্ট বেন থাকা অবস্তায় অন্য একাউন্ট তৈরি অথবা ব্যবহার করা) অনুমদিত নয়।[e]

২৬. স্থানীয় টপিকের নিয়ম, যদি ভালোভাবে বিবরণ করা হয় যখন তা তৈরি করা হয়েছে, যা ফোরামের নিয়মকে বাধা দেয়না, তা মানতে হবে।[e]

২৭. স্বয়ংক্রিয় অনুবাদ সরঞ্জাম স্থানীয় বার্ডে অনুবাদ করতে ব্যবহার করা যাবে না।

২৮. ফোরাম সফত্গটওয়্যারের বাগ বা ত্রুটি (এমনকি ফলাফল নির্মম না হলেও) ব্যাবহার করা যাবে না।

২৯. অপ্রচলিত পিএম (PM) পাঠানো, বিজ্ঞাপন অথবা পিএম-এর বন্যা সহ এসব কাজ করা যাবে না।

৩০. একই রকম আইটেম একসাথে লিস্ট করতে হবে।[2][e]

৩১.  মেম্বারদের আবাটার NSFL অথবা NSFW কন্টেন্ট হবে না, কপিরাইট লঙ্ঘন করার চেষ্টাও করা যাবে না। [10]

৩২. একাধিক পোস্ট এক সারিতে (থ্রেড স্টার্টার দ্বারা reserved পোস্ট এবং bumps বাদে) করা যাবে না।

৩৩. চুরি করা বিষয়বস্তু (plagiarized content) পোস্ট করা যাবে না। [e]

Examples:

1. Such posts like "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids,useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads.

6. The warning must be obvious. For example: "MalwareSite.com <------ CAUTION. This is a malware site - do NOT click". A valid reason would be if your Bitcoin wallet was hacked and you feel a file you downloaded is to blame.

14. This includes services, trades, discussion, speculation, mining and any other content related to altcoins. Trades that include an Altcoin and Bitcoin is OK (except for an exchange between the two). For example, a thread named "Buying Bitcoins and Litecoins for bank transfer" can stay in the general boards.

15.

Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. <...>

Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.
<...>

23. This rule is meant to prevent from users exploiting possible loopholes in the rules or some interpretations that follow the literal meaning of the rule rather than the meaning of what it truly wanted to prevent.

24.

<...>
Ads are typically not allowed in posts (outside of the signature area) because they are annoying and off-topic. It is especially disallowed to put ads or signatures at the bottom of all of your posts. Except for traditional valedictions, which are tolerated but discouraged, signatures are for the signature area only.

However, if you are using the forum as a publishing platform to host something really substantial and useful, selling ads in that substantial work is allowed. To be eligible for this, your post must be in a topic that you started, and your post must be substantial and long enough to make the ad seem entirely insignificant. If in doubt, ask me.

25. If you get banned (temporary or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

26.

Those were mostly replaced by self-moderated topics, but local rules can be enforced at the moderator's discretion.

30. This includes (but is not limited to) domains, software keys and membership invitations. What's considered similar is up to the moderator handling the situation.

33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.

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[TheBeardedBaby]

I guess that happen because your post was not entirely in English and Off-topic fall under the "Only English" restrictions.
Try the Archival instead. There is a less moderation. That's where I post when I have to test some tables.

[hilariousandco]

I guess that happen because your post was not entirely in English and Off-topic fall under the "Only English" restrictions.

Exactly. There's two reports about it in the queue with this reason given so that's probably why it was removed. You don't need to post an incomplete work in progress thread. Just preview it and leave it there and edit it as you wish. It will be saved in your drafts anyway as you already know but I don't see a reason to post this and it certainly doesn't belong in off topic if it's in a foreign language.

[mdayonliner]

I guess that happen because your post was not entirely in English and Off-topic fall under the "Only English" restrictions.

I thought the same and if this is really the case then it's a shame that the mod can't even bother to read the first few lines that were stated only for them.

- topic was on the off-topic board! Come on!!

Working... Please do not delete this post.
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Working...

Please do not delete this post.

Can we read it now?

I would like to here the explanation from the mod who deleted it.

The unofficial rule says...

9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.

Now how many will debate that off-topic is a main board?

update:

Exactly. There's two reports about it in the queue with this reason given so that's probably why it was removed.

Good to hear it from you hilari. I assume you deleted it(?)

You don't need to post an incomplete work in progress thread. Just preview it and leave it there and edit it as you wish. It will be saved in your drafts anyway as you already know but I don't see a reason to post this and it certainly doesn't belong in off topic if it's in a foreign language.

Everyone has their own comfort zone. I would rather chose the way I work and for that reason I choose to leave the work there before I am done and move the content to the right board. what's wrong with that? This was in off-topic section mate! Off-topic!!

more update:

Anyway I do not waste my energy to exchange words and end up with no outcomes. Please answer my question here.

- Do I have the permission to create the topic on the off-topic section again since this post should work as a better explanation of what I am trying to do?

PS: Talking about report(?) Please check my report history, there are two topics in the meta section which do not belongs to here. similar cases were taken care of but these two special cases were marked as unhandaled.

[hilariousandco]

The unofficial rule says...

9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.

Now how many will debate that off-topic is a main board?

All the forum is in English apart from local boards. The same applies to Off topic and it's not a free for all for any other language.

update:

Exactly. There's two reports about it in the queue with this reason given so that's probably why it was removed.

Good to hear it from you hilari. I assume you deleted it(?)

No, I don't believe I did, but I see nothing wrong with it being removed.

Everyone has their own comfort zone. I would rather chose the way I work and for that reason I choose to leave the work there before I am done and move the content to the right board. what's wrong with that? This was in off-topic section mate! Off-topic!!

It doesn't matter what you would rather do. Do it within the rules and in the correct sub board. Off topic isn't a public draft board for works in progress, especially when they're not in English.

[xtraelv]

Realistically that topic belongs here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=11.0

EDIT:

and nope it wasn't me who reported it. I only report shit-posters.

[mday_alt]

Try the Archival instead. There is a less moderation. That's where I post when I have to test some tables.

Thanks I tried and seems like I can not post on that board from this account. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5038218.0 ¹

I am using this account from a different Laptop which has the native font installed. I am not that quick and comfortable in typing my native language so I do not use and install it on my main Laptop which I use for my main account (mdayonliner).  Now who will tell the mods that people can have different reasons to do different things different way.

This is really frustrating.

Realistically that topic belongs here

You did not get the idea by the way.

It doesn't matter what you would rather do. Do it within the rules and in the correct sub board. Off topic isn't a public draft board for works in progress, especially when they're not in English.

Fantastic. Thanks for being so generous

¹ update link:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5038224.0

[o_e_l_e_o]

Fantastic. Thanks for being so generous

Being generous is irrelevant. Off Topic is an English only board.

[mday_alt]

Fantastic. Thanks for being so generous

Being generous is irrelevant. Off Topic is an English only board.

Oh yeah!

Thanks for being so generous

How about this?

"Thanks for saving the entire BitcoinTalk community!"

Guess what! I lost the whole ground because of this...

23. When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules.

I would not wonder if someone find this plagiarism (a work in progress post) too and perhaps the account will get ban! And if this account get ban then my main account (mdayonliner) will fall under ban evasion meaning I am out from the forum.

They say, "law is blind" by the way.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Guess what! I lost the whole ground because of this...

23. When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules.

9. Discussions in the main boards must be in English. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.

There's not really much open to interpretation there.


You are taking this way too personally. Just write it in drafts or post it to the local language board as suggested. It's not a big deal.

[hilariousandco]

He thinks he's being victimized for something but clearly can't accept that mods we're just following the rules and not just making up their own.

[mday_alt]

9. Discussions in the main boards must be in English. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.

There's not really much open to interpretation there.

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This was not written in my native language, it was in English. I am no stranger to the forum, well aware of the forum rules as well. I would appreciate a PM or any kind of information on the post itself before removing it. It took me long time and hard work to translate those bit. I am lucky that I have the draft.

What pissed me off is the discrimination. Hilari said two reports in queue which ok but I can open up some examples of some report were unhandaled from my main account and those were from some legendary. Those posts do not belong to the meta but somehow the mod (of meta) unsure LOL. Funny fact is - there were few topic similar to those topics and those were moved to the appropriate board after the report. Why this discrimination? Bitcoin environment should not have partiality or favor for legend any group.  

Just write it in drafts or post it to the local language board as suggested. It's not a big deal.

I already did and seems like you missed it to see.

He thinks he's being victimized for something but clearly can't accept that mods we're just following the rules and not just making up their own.

No hilari, you are wrong. It pissed me off because I had clearly stated that please do not remove the post. The rest I have explained above.

[xtraelv]

No hilari, you are wrong. It pissed me off because I had clearly stated that please do not remove the post. The rest I have explained above.

That is where the moderators went wrong ? They shouldn't enforce the rules when someone posts "please do not remove the post".

Does that work with parking wardens too ? Note on car "please do not tow for illegal parking".

You complain about Legendary's getting special treatment but expect moderators to PM you before removing a post ?

I may not be a Legendary to enjoy special privilege however I build up this account from 0 to here and I am well aware of the forum environment. Just because I have two red trusts, do not mean that I am a shit and you can not treat me as no one. I feel insulted sometimes.

If you weren't so condescending and insulting towards others then perhaps people would treat you better.

I was just trying to be helpful in my first post and then you had to turn it into something negative. Normally I just avoid you but if you act shitty towards me then you get my attention.

[mday_alt]

if you act shitty towards me then you get my attention.

Dude please.. where is the shitty part?

Realistically that topic belongs here

You did not get the idea by the way.

How this become shitty?

This will be shitty now... read...
Please back off mate. You do not need to be nice or shit with me. Just back off from my post.

[xtraelv]

How this become shitty?

This will be shitty now... read...
Please back off mate. You do not need to be nice or shit with me. Just back off from my post.

Perhaps you can explain it to me in case I misunderstood.

Being public forum - I can respond to whatever post I wish. If you want to talk to yourself I suggest you send yourself a personal message. You have another alt now so that should be easy.  You seem to be a slow learner. Has telling me what to do ever worked for you ?

[mday_alt]

Has telling me what to do ever worked for you ?

You became a saint, a rescuer or?

For some moment I almost forgot that you were on this list. This topic is basically ends here until hilary or o_e_l_e_o has something to say. But seems like you came up with your diversion idea which you do most of the time when it's me to prove your greatness.

Normally I just avoid

Stay there if you do! Why the fuck you are pulling the topic in-between you and me?

you get my attention.

Do I give a fuck for your attention?

insulting towards others then perhaps people would treat you better.

Who? To you?

people would treat you better

Plenty of people here who treat me nice.Thing is you are blind folded.

[he]
Now, stop it here (or you may carry on, I really don't give a fuck) I have useful stuffs to do instead of talking to you back and forth. You are just an attention seeking whore to me.

[xtraelv]

insulting towards others then perhaps people would treat you better.

Who? To you?

people would treat you better

Plenty of people here who treat me nice.Thing is you are blind folded.

[he]
Now, stop it here (or you may carry on, I really don't give a fuck) I have useful stuffs to do instead of talking to you back and forth. You are just an attention seeking whore to me.

You are condescending towards anyone that you don't feel the need to suck up to.

Re-read your own comments if you think that you have been talking without being condescending.

You broke the rules and you blame the moderator ? I tried to be amicable but all you do is hurl insults at me. Perhaps you understand this better:

Unfortunately for your big ego - the best part of you ran down your mothers leg.

[o_e_l_e_o]

You are taking this way too personally. Just write it in drafts or post it to the local language board as suggested. It's not a big deal.

You've already moved it to the local language board, ergo the issue is now resolved. We can lock this topic and move on.

[mday_alt]

We can lock this topic and move on.

I will do it mate once I access my main account from the other Laptop.

Update: Lol, I though the topic created from the main one. Doing it now.
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