Racism and bigotry

[eddie13]

But I don't understand why just a simple question offended so many people.

A good amount of older Bitcoiners that are here believe in Bitcoin for it's revolutionary usefulness for liberty and freedom from oppression.. Not just to make a buck, but for the libertarian principles.. Especially the founders such as Satoshi Nakamoto himself..

These sort of people do not take kindly to censorship..
Censorship is ANTI-Bitcoin..

We are in Bitcoin to avoid economic censorship, and may get somewhat hostile in its defense..

[LoyceV]

Let me just quote myself:

This is not a SJW forum, it's Bitcointalk. This forum gives users more freedom to post their mind than any other forum I've seen.

If you're too sensitive for people's honest opinions, there are literally thousands of other forums you could choose from. And there's very few that truely value freedom of speech.

[Vod]

So if I post a fact, like Filipinos are gullible - would that make me a racist?  :/

[Dig Bicks]

It's no secret this forum is filled with dark skinned spammers (phillipinos, nigerians, venezuelans, indonesians), just so they can earn a few peanuts.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Whatever happened to Hall's "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?

[cjie]

I just know that there are some persons here that are troller, their major purpose is to ferment problems here. We are matured enough to handle any issue we encounter here. If anybody calls you all sort of names or abuse you with your religions, you should take it as an option of that person. Until you act according to the option of that person before it can have an impact on you. Just take it as one of those things you must encounter. Thanks.

[Solondrado]

I just want to know what you guys think. To be this is a big issue. I will give you a few examples here. Do you think this is Okay? Do you think these accounts should be banned or blocked? Let me know remind you that if you post on on-forum alt coin give aways you get banned for a week. But if you are racists... that's fine. Should this be changed? Please let me know what do you think.

Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

Just face it. Black people are hated globally, are the most different from all other races, are the only race incapable of generally succeeding in any society have never built or maintained modern civilization,band the only race that Chinese girls don't like.

With China and Asia rising and wealth bring freely transferred now, negros are the not even in the game, and are completely unwanted and useless.

Like how stupid do you have to be to post in your 3rd world language in english sub forums?

Even 50 iq sub sahara africans arent doing that.

Do you guys dont have enough counsins to marry so that you have to marry your sisters and mothers now?

This shit is not good for a populations iq you know...

 

And a lot more. According to Google, there are more than 5,000 usage of the word "racist" in the forum.
I know these types of posts are mostly in "off-topic" part of the forum" but the posts that I mentioned above have thousands of views. Don't you think we should stop this somehow?

I agree the posts are definitely not defining the majority of us.

[bluefirecorp_]

My solution is to call the racist fucks out on it. Don't just accept, call them idiots, retards, whatever. They're stupid and no one should listen to them. People sometimes need to be reminded of that, for some reason.

Banning them will just lead to more problems. It's easier to just call them out on their shit.

[Dig Bicks]

My solution is to call the racist fucks out on it. Don't just accept, call them idiots, retards, whatever. They're stupid and no one should listen to them. People sometimes need to be reminded of that, for some reason.

Banning them will just lead to more problems. It's easier to just call them out on their shit.

Racism is natural, I would say everyone has some bias against certain races whether or not they would like to admit it.

Refugees are destroying Europe already.

[bluefirecorp_]

My solution is to call the racist fucks out on it. Don't just accept, call them idiots, retards, whatever. They're stupid and no one should listen to them. People sometimes need to be reminded of that, for some reason.

Banning them will just lead to more problems. It's easier to just call them out on their shit.

Racism is natural, I would say everyone has some bias against certain races whether or not they would like to admit it.

Refugees are destroying Europe already.

Look here you ignorant prick. Refugees aren't the problem. The problem is ignorance and hate.

If you educate a population in a certain way, they'll act a certain way. These people came from a war torn nation. They're indoctrinated with a religion that preaches about the same shit as any other religion. They're ignorant for the most part, but still, these people can and are better than racists such as yourself.

No one is born racist. No one is naturally biased against someone based on the color of the skin. They're biased because someone taught them to be bias.

[NavI_027]

At OP, if you can't handle the heat then go out of the kitchen, as simple as that. Don't get me wrong, actually I'm against to any form of discrimination too. Yeah! I know that you are only just bothered and want to show some concern regarding this issue, what I'm only pointing is you should not feel like you're the main responsible for world peace. Do not please somebody to change based on the concept of your own ideal world, if someone's rude then ask him once but if he remains the same then so be it — ignore and mind your own business.

People who join here for trolling and not writing a single post outside of off-topic or politics should be banned imo.  

Indeed, or at least give them a temporary ban for becoming an unproductive member of this forum. For sure this punishment will serve as their lesson and reminder that this Bitcointalk.org and not "RantsandSh*ttalk.org" .

It's no secret this forum is filled with dark skinned spammers (phillipinos, nigerians, venezuelans, indonesians), just so they can earn a few peanuts.

I'm clueless about your skin color and to the race where you belong BUT I'm sure of this one thing, you're also a sh*t poster. Are you even aware of that?

[bill gator]

Quite honestly I'm surprised that even that many people think that unsavory opinions are grounds for punishment. We've had over 20 people vote in the poll and over 1/5 of them believe that bigotry should be a ban-able offense. We've got some work to do around here to explain foundational principals.

[bluefirecorp_]

Quite honestly I'm surprised that even that many people think that unsavory opinions are grounds for punishment. We've had over 20 people vote in the poll and over 1/5 of them believe that bigotry should be a ban-able offense. We've got some work to do around here to explain foundational principals.

Not all places have freedom of speech that we do. Some totalitarian regimes exists, which lead to the thought that punishing people is morally right as long as they're non-conformist.

[xtraelv]

Some people are Promo-Primate turds that prove that even monkeys evolved.  But there is no valid reason to ban them. Banning people just because you don't agree with their opinion is censorship and forcing your opinion (by censorship) onto everyone else.  "Ignore" just blocks their opinion from reaching you - why wouldn't that be enough ? Why would you want to impose your opinion on others ?






Censorship is a form of bigotry and intolerance.

[bitmover]

Quite honestly I'm surprised that even that many people think that unsavory opinions are grounds for punishment. We've had over 20 people vote in the poll and over 1/5 of them believe that bigotry should be a ban-able offense. We've got some work to do around here to explain foundational principals.

I think that people don't know what bigotry is, and vote anyway without consulting Google translate lol

[hilariousetc]

No, I don't think any of that should be banned--but at least two of those members you quoted are trolls.

Yeah, two of them are obviously just troll accounts. Big Dicks is almost certainly just somebody's alt account he uses to troll and post inflammatory crap.  

Trolling IS against the rules, but that's a huge gray area as to what constitutes trolling.  My suggestion is that if you don't like what someone writes, put them on ignore.  Problem solved.

The issue is when people just start doing it to inflame and troll which there are a few that obviously are. As you said, people should just ignore those that obviously annoy them so much, but there are also people who overstep the line and just say things to be disruptive.

I don't know why are race issues/religious issues even mentioned on technical forum

Because we have a Politics & Society sub forum, though you could certainly argue we don't really need it, but it's there and I doubt it will be removed and I don't think it should just because sometimes people say things that annoy or hurt others.

The Qu'ran has very negative views on homosexuality.

So does the bible.

Islam is like living in the stone ages.

So is Christianity.

There have also been many honour killings/rapings/acid attacks in the UK committed against Muslim women in the UK by their own community.

Only muslims kill are rape and do acid attacks in the UK? Most of the rapes that happen are probably done by drunken white males on the weekend. Half of them probably even claim to be "Christian" too. Would that be that relevant?

Also Google ‘Muslim grooming gangs UK’ and see what you think about what you’ll find. Fucking animals!

Why is their religion relevant to this? They don't rape because of their religion and there are plenty of paedophile rings run by whites and every other race, but this rhetoric is just used to incite race or religious hatred. Jimmy Saville is probably the biggest paedophile the country has ever seen, but nobody is calling him a Christian paedophile. If you're against rape then be against rape, but if you only get irate about a fraction of rapes committed by certain people then your biases are obvious.

[manjiLocked]

You got that right, our whole fucking society in the UK has been changed over the years to accommodate people who follow that ridiculous ideology.

People who moan about treatment of Muslim’s, I’d like to ask them how they feel about the treatment of homosexuals & women in their faith?

By the way Muslim’s aren’t a race, Islam is a faith/ideology. Criticising or condeming Muslim’s can’t be construed as racism.

I don't believe in any religion and I think they are all a scam. BUT I don't think someone should be berated just because of their beliefs. What you are also referring to as treatment of homosexuals and women are very limited to a regions of Saudi Arabia and Iran only.
Not all the muslim countries follow that. Indonesia is majority muslim and there is no problem with being a muslim/homosexual. What you know about Islam and Muslims is what the media want you to know. Do not think this is true for all the muslims around the world.

I don't know how UK society changed because of muslims, but If you are changing your rules and regulations to make sure every person every citizen has the right to believe and practice their own religion, it make sense to me. Cause it's their right.

The Qu'ran has very negative views on homosexuality. Islam is like living in the stone ages. There have also been many honour killings/rapings/acid attacks in the UK committed against Muslim women in the UK by their own community.

The false Prophet Muhammed is also a pedophile, he had a 9 year old wife Aisha who he supposedly fucked when she was 12.

Also Google ‘Muslim grooming gangs UK’ and see what you think about what you’ll find. Fucking animals!

is this what's called freedom of speech by describing the religion of others?

I'm a Muslim

you can't describe the Qur'an yourself when you can't read the Qur'an in Arabic.

question for you:
what religion destroyed Hiroshima abd Nagasaki?

What religion slaugtered our brother on IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, PALESTINE, and Rohingya MYANMAR?

Is that ISLAM?

don't talk about other people's religion withput ypu knowing about law, interpretation.

Damn Infidel.

[o_e_l_e_o]

don't talk about other people's religion withput ypu knowing about law, interpretation.

Damn Infidel.

I'm sorry, but if you are allowed to call him an infidel, then he's equally allowed to call you an animal, or anything else for that matter. It's "freedom of speech", not "freedom of speech that you agree with".

You have every right to feel offended, and you can use your own free speech (as you have) to insult and offend him, but you absolutely do not get to silence him.

[bluefirecorp_]

I am not offended if he speaks for my personality but if he talks about the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W. I am very offended.

anyone who has an Islamic religion is not offended by the insult to the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W means that his faith is doubtful.

Muhammad's a kiddie fiddler and therefore a pedophile. Your silly book is filled with false rumors, and should be categorized in the fiction section.

If Muhammad were alive today, he'd be thrown in jail for the shit he did. He's a bad person, yet you worship him as though he's a great man. Silly, ignorant peasant.

Overall, freedom of speech won't be limited by your nation's silly blasphemy laws.

[hilariousetc]

don't talk about other people's religion withput ypu knowing about law, interpretation.

Damn Infidel.

I'm sorry, but if you are allowed to call him an infidel, then he's equally allowed to call you an animal, or anything else for that matter. It's "freedom of speech", not "freedom of speech that you agree with".

You have every right to feel offended, and you can use your own free speech (as you have) to insult and offend him, but you absolutely do not get to silence him.

One thing that has always annoyed me is people who claim to be freedom of speech, just right up until somebody says something they don't like then they want to silence them.

I am not offended if he speaks for my personality but if he talks about the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W. I am very offended.

anyone who has an Islamic religion is not offended by the insult to the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W means that his faith is doubtful.

If your faith is so strong why do you even care about insults to them? Surely Mohammed and Allah will take care of the insults at a later date and you don't need to worry about anything. Just ignore it, especially if it's something that is only going to annoy or enrage you because people will see that and just attack you more, like the idiot above.