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I think all these questions aren't related to the aTriz/zapo being questioned here, since the account was bought in 2015
I don't think so. Late 2015- I talked to the original owner, and we made a deal where I would use his account to learn about BTC, and just grow with the community. Newbie heard something about bitcoin, found this forum and they made deal with scammers to use account to learn about btc. All that happened in late 2015. while aTriz made first post in 2017. If account changed hands it happened in 2017.
@Zapo/aTriz can you prove you bought account? It is something completely different than proving you didn't buy account http://archive.is/26ct8 ?
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October 05, 2018, 11:34:40 PM Last edit: October 06, 2018, 01:24:27 AM by Tszunami98 |
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List of scam or unresolved ICO's by Atriz: - Minobia (scam) - Banana Coin (scam) - Dog racing (scam) - ModrnCoin (scam) - Bazista (scam) - Aeternum (left without saying anything...bla bla bla personal problems) - miBoodle (left without saying anything...bla bla bla personal problems) - FryEgg (left without saying anything...bla bla bla personal problems) - Vernam (Vernam tems is unaware of some parts of the campaign he promoted on btctalk) - Truegame (still has not paid translators, we (the translators) are going back and forth with Tgame team to solve this issue and is yet to be resolved). Here is the wallet of tokens that we should recieve: https://etherscan.io/token/0xf8e06e4e4a80287fdca5b02dccecaa9d0954840f?a=0x093b183834d6c93ed0f952b44c0d6efec33f1f15Recently he was hired to run a bounty campaign for Terrawatt, i personally contacted the team, explained everything to them, instructed them to relevant threads on bitcointalk about his history and they decided to fire him from the project. I did the exact same thing about Eraswap. Modus operandi: He now works with Jamalaezaz (aka Ebola, Spannish flu, Bubonic plague) and they have this bounty group togheter: https://t.me/bountiumBasically Jamal, who in the past used hundreds of accounts to cheat the bounties he managed, gets the jobs and he should manage the campaigns. Jamal is not using his account anymore because of his bad reputation, in exchange he is using sockpuppets to continue his work on the forum. This is the Eraswap thread atriz made, and he deleted it after i talked to the projects team: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034807.msg45998224#msg45998224He even confronted me on telegram about this: Somehow they still manage that campaign here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034864The account that posted the thread has posted in Turkish until June, stopped posting, and then started again in english in September (most likely stolen or bought account). Someone who knows how to investigate this things could make a check on him. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=263733Other campaigns they manage: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4895271https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3439509.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=167909You can check the accounts that posted these, not sure if they are paid to post or they are related. In posting history you can see some sort of ANN bumping. He is managing some signatures campaigns relatively well, while in the backstage is managing and working closely with some of the most shadyest individuals in this forum. The only thing that i get from all this is his excellent ability to decieve and manipulate, and you can see that in the comments of the people who talk about second chances...people who should read the OP first post and analyze the text carefully and identify how they were tricked into thinking this.
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October 06, 2018, 12:09:08 AM Last edit: October 06, 2018, 12:21:40 AM by Zapo |
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Hi Eddie, the devs were requesting me to lower the budget mid-campaign, but it would be unfair to participants since it was mid-week, so I was only able to pay out a portion of participants. The team was currently flying over to dubai for a lot of meetings, so please give me and them some leeway. This week I misestimated how much I needed, and therefore had to ask the devs for another refill. I'm not incorrect. It did take a lot of planning and talking. It was a lot of months since my last lending applications. I was mistaken with the loan, so therefore offered higher interest. My apologies. In other words, he stole money from people he believed to be scammers. Now where have I heard that before? I'm not returning the 5 ETH or so I made off them, after I repaid that to snakey. That would be me losing money for doing work. Has aTriz shown any in his case; it's one lie after another.
In this thread, I haven't lied once. Moving forward can you provide the information now so that anyone who has tagged Pinkman12345 can also go and tag the snakey account. We wouldn't want to leave any loose ends out there.
All I know is told to JH. The positive feedback was for when we were friends, but now he has backstabbed me. @marlboroza I'm not quoting to save time. 1. 3 people have had access to aTriz. Me, original owner and someone who wanted to use it for a week after I got tagged (the shit posts) Here is when I took the account back. Only I've used Zapo. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4765774.msg43073635#msg430736352. 3, aTriz, atriz_alt and this one. 3. I don't know, I wasn't involved in the hashcows buisness. Me and the original owner had a short conversation about it, which basically was - We got hacked - We repaid 90 percent of people getting hacked - Slowly died off, and closed down 4/5/6/7. I can't really answer this in-depth because I wasn't involved in any of this old business. How did you possibly conclude that, your plan was gonna work? Your campaign management has never been bad, your judgement of things have been though. And that is why some people think you're a con artist/scammer/naive person et al.
Guess sometimes you've just got to ride the wave. I've got no other answer, and I'd rather come clean after a couple of campaigns, then have something looming over me forever. So I assume you also brought the private keys of aTriz's staked message back in 2013/14?
No, I have the old owner on skype and just asked him to sign whenever. I don't think he's active nowadays though. Late 2015- I talked to the original owner, and we made a deal where I would use his account to learn about BTC, and just grow with the community.
I'm not lying.
Come on. Nobody needs to buy an account (and as marlboroza pointed out - from a scammy mining pool - much fail on due diligence) in order to "learn about BTC" or to "grow with the community". And you didn't post with the account until April 2017 so according to Mr. Occam you mentioned "late 2015" so that you could then say: Bought account when account buying was fine
Because buying an account in 2017 would not have been "fine" I guess. My bad. I bought it late 2016, didn't mean to mislead. I think I bought it decemberish, and then went to china for a month, came back and it was feburary, sort of forget for a couple months, and then started to look around and post. Other issues next post.
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October 06, 2018, 12:09:44 AM Last edit: October 06, 2018, 12:22:35 AM by Zapo |
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I think all these questions aren't related to the aTriz/zapo being questioned here, since the account was bought in 2015
I don't think so. Late 2015- I talked to the original owner, and we made a deal where I would use his account to learn about BTC, and just grow with the community. Newbie heard something about bitcoin, found this forum and they made deal with scammers to use account to learn about btc. All that happened in late 2015. while aTriz made first post in 2017. If account changed hands it happened in 2017.
@Zapo/aTriz can you prove you bought account? It is something completely different than proving you didn't buy account http://archive.is/26ct8 ? I can easily do that. Can you/suchmoon/The Pharmacist PM me? I have information which proves that, but I'd like not to be public.
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October 06, 2018, 12:16:04 AM |
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- Minobia (scam) - Banana Coin (scam) - Dog racing (scam) - ModrnCoin (scam) - Bazista (scam) - Aeternum (left without saying anything...bla bla bla personal problems) - miBoodle (left without saying anything...bla bla bla personal problems) - FryEgg (left without saying anything...bla bla bla personal problems) - Vernam (Vernam tems is unaware of some parts of the campaign he promoted on btctalk) - Truegame (still has not paid translators, we (the translators) are going back and forth with Tgame team to solve this issue and is yet to be resolved). Here is the wallet of tokens that we should recieve: https://etherscan.io/token/0xf8e06e4e4a80287fdca5b02dccecaa9d0954840f?a=0x093b183834d6c93ed0f952b44c0d6efec33f1f15Minobia - They left me on the last couple weeks of the campaign, I was scammed by them. Banana Coin - Paid everyone via the online portal, I don't know how their ICO went. Dog Racing - Dev's exit scammed after I handed them the final sheet. ModernCoin - Ran away mid campaign Bazista - Used Pinkman to pay everyone except content. JH still has the tokens owed for content and last time I asked him, he said he lost them or some other bullshit. Aeternum, dev's stopped responding to me, started a new campaign with another manager Miboodle/FryEgg/Vernam/Truegame - have given final sheet in to them. I am not involved with jamal. He offered me a job, so I checked the telegram group, but I haven't made a decision yet. I'd recommend you to not involve payment issues from Jamal, over to me. All of the ICO's you've listed have exit scammed, blocked me, or I've done the work for them (final sheet). I don't see how I'm lying/deceiving here.
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October 06, 2018, 12:33:36 AM |
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I am not involved with jamal. He offered me a job, so I checked the telegram group, but I haven't made a decision yet.
I'd recommend you to not involve payment issues from Jamal, over to me. All of the ICO's you've listed have exit scammed, blocked me, or I've done the work for them (final sheet). I don't see how I'm lying/deceiving here.
You cannot say you are not involved with someone and that you think about making a decision on a job offer they made you WHEN: 1. You posted a bounty campaign for him 2. You own the Pinned message in his telegram bounty group 3. You are clearly a moderator and you are involved in managing spreadsheets for him I can see right thru you, and hopefully everyone can see now. You are so easy to debunk, your words are basically WORTHLESS. Everything you write is trying to manipulate and decieve people.
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October 06, 2018, 12:36:46 AM |
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I am not involved with jamal. He offered me a job, so I checked the telegram group, but I haven't made a decision yet.
I'd recommend you to not involve payment issues from Jamal, over to me. All of the ICO's you've listed have exit scammed, blocked me, or I've done the work for them (final sheet). I don't see how I'm lying/deceiving here.
You cannot say you are not involved with someone and that you think about taking a decision on a job offer they made you WHEN: 1. You posted a bounty campaign for him 2. You own the Pinned message in his telegram bounty group 3. You are clearly a moderator and you are involved in managing spreadsheets for him I can see right thru you, and hopefully everyone can see now. You are so easy to debunk, your words are basically WORTHLESS. Everything you write is trying to manipulate and decieve people. He gave me/told me all of these things because he wants me to have a taste of what's coming. We are in a trial period. His plan was to make a whole website and everything, and that's what he really wants me onboard. I haven't decided yet. The work he gave for me managing spreadsheets was work I asked for, so I can make some income. I don't see how managing a couple spreadsheet means that I'm his right man. I don't understand what you have against me? I've treated you well, responded to you as I can, and tried to help you. I try to make some money off doing manual spreadsheet work and now I'm involved in a bunch of scams now?
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October 06, 2018, 12:41:49 AM Last edit: October 06, 2018, 01:26:38 AM by Tszunami98 |
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He gave me/told me all of these things because he wants me to have a taste of what's coming. We are in a trial period.
His plan was to make a whole website and everything, and that's what he really wants me onboard. I haven't decided yet.
The work he gave for me managing spreadsheets was work I asked for, so I can make some income. I don't see how managing a couple spreadsheet means that I'm his right man.
I don't understand what you have against me? I've treated you well, responded to you as I can, and tried to help you. I try to make some money off doing manual spreadsheet work and now I'm involved in a bunch of scams now?
I have the same reply: Everything you write is trying to manipulate and decieve people.
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October 06, 2018, 12:47:13 AM |
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My bad. I bought it late 2016, didn't mean to mislead. I think I bought it decemberish, and then went to china for a month, came back and it was feburary, sort of forget for a couple months, and then started to look around and post.
Then you lied when you said account buying was ok at the time. By December 2016 DT members had started leaving neg trust for that shit. I can easily do that. Can you/suchmoon/The Pharmacist PM me? I have information which proves that, but I'd like not to be public.
Dude. Stop serial posting. And - no, I'm not going to engage in some behind-the-scenes validation because - in case you missed it - I don't trust you at all.
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I had read that thread back when I was reading up on the controversies of the time. It doesn't really tell the whole story though. Whether this was an oversight on your part trying to move on from the Atriz brand at the time or not; but there is no accusation or proof on your part they did anything wrong. I don't even see any feedback from any of your accounts
I obviously don't know the details, but given the current situation (see below), it might have been a good idea to have aired the dirty laundry and had pinkman tagged. Assuming the reason you have for not paying them was NEG worthy. All I can find is the positive feedback you left pinkman that is still positive but has (delete) at the end of it. I may not have been clear in the previous post. Not trying to beat a dead horse but care to share any details that resulted in you being back stabbed. Provide as much or as little extra info as you wish, but my interest is whether or not repayment not continuing is justified. I would also suggest that the more questions you do answer, the less information you should leave out. It may help in avoiding situations like this where maybe you aren't managing a campaign or bounty for them, but you are involved with them, as a contracted employee to say the least. I am not involved with jamal. He offered me a job, so I checked the telegram group, but I haven't made a decision yet.
I'd recommend you to not involve payment issues from Jamal, over to me. All of the ICO's you've listed have exit scammed, blocked me, or I've done the work for them (final sheet). I don't see how I'm lying/deceiving here.
You cannot say you are not involved with someone and that you think about making a decision on a job offer they made you WHEN: *snip* The work he gave for me managing spreadsheets was work I asked for, so I can make some income. I don't see how managing a couple spreadsheet means that I'm his right man.
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October 06, 2018, 01:04:43 AM |
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My bad. I bought it late 2016, didn't mean to mislead. I think I bought it decemberish, and then went to china for a month, came back and it was feburary, sort of forget for a couple months, and then started to look around and post.
Then you lied when you said account buying was ok at the time. By December 2016 DT members had started leaving neg trust for that shit. I can easily do that. Can you/suchmoon/The Pharmacist PM me? I have information which proves that, but I'd like not to be public.
Dude. Stop serial posting. And - no, I'm not going to engage in some behind-the-scenes validation because - in case you missed it - I don't trust you at all. I thought that it was fine at the time? My bad. I'm not going to post proof of that here since it's very personal. I'm sorry you've lost your trust in me. I had read that thread back when I was reading up on the controversies of the time. It doesn't really tell the whole story though. Whether this was an oversight on your part trying to move on from the Atriz brand at the time or not; but there is no accusation or proof on your part they did anything wrong. I don't even see any feedback from any of your accounts
I obviously don't know the details, but given the current situation (see below), it might have been a good idea to have aired the dirty laundry and had pinkman tagged. Assuming the reason you have for not paying them was NEG worthy. All I can find is the positive feedback you left pinkman that is still positive but has (delete) at the end of it. I may not have been clear in the previous post. Not trying to beat a dead horse but care to share any details that resulted in you being back stabbed. Provide as much or as little extra info as you wish, but my interest is whether or not repayment not continuing is justified. I would also suggest that the more questions you do answer, the less information you should leave out. It may help in avoiding situations like this where maybe you aren't managing a campaign or bounty for them, but you are involved with them, as a contracted employee to say the least. I am not involved with jamal. He offered me a job, so I checked the telegram group, but I haven't made a decision yet.
I'd recommend you to not involve payment issues from Jamal, over to me. All of the ICO's you've listed have exit scammed, blocked me, or I've done the work for them (final sheet). I don't see how I'm lying/deceiving here.
You cannot say you are not involved with someone and that you think about making a decision on a job offer they made you WHEN: *snip* The work he gave for me managing spreadsheets was work I asked for, so I can make some income. I don't see how managing a couple spreadsheet means that I'm his right man.
Aight TLDR JH found me when he asked for a loan for like 0.02 back when I ran a lending buisness JH was a eth dev, so I asked him so questions, we became threads, he helped me look for ICOs, give advice eg. JH then started helping me handle bounty distributions, with Bazista, in which he coded some smart contract to send to 100 addresses in one TXID. Similar to how Pay to many works. We kept being friends, talking about crypto, for at least once a week. Then snakey got "scammed" by the ico I promoted for 2-3 days. Messaged JH for advice, and he told me, pay him back, take the L, and then just continue business as usual (for clarifications JH=pinkman on telegram, who also controls snakey's BTT Repaid snakey 4 ETH, which was about how much (give or take 1 ETH), I earnt off Chroynos Coin (the ICO he got scammed for). Had 3 ETH stuck in bread wallet, and there were issues with sending ETH at the time, so I gave my private key to JH, and asked him to help me fix it. A day later, JH says he can't fix it, and my 3 eth disappeared, into some shapeshift address. I asked JH about it, he said I couldn't access wallet, so I believed him, and since he was my friend, didn't bother any more. Bazista's Content campaign had to get paid out soon, and since JH had access to the tokens, after the airdrop contract, I asked him to give them back to me, so I can do the distribution. He avoided me for a day and then said some bullshit lie, about shouldn't I have them, or something. At the time I had some suspicions about JH, and after snakey said "I know you are zapo" and merited me, I was like WTF? I only told 3 people at that time, JH included. Snakey sent me screenshots of his phone, JH sent me some before. Both phones were the exact same, and had the same writing tone. At this point, everything clicked. So I still technically owe snakey 13 ETH. But after what he has done to me, with hacking my wallet, running away with tokens, pretending to be a friend, I'm 100 percent not paying him that.
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I'm 100 percent not paying him that.
Have you considered paying the remainder to those who were scammed by snakey/pinkman?
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October 06, 2018, 02:55:13 AM |
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My bad. I bought it late 2016, didn't mean to mislead. I think I bought it decemberish, and then went to china for a month, came back and it was feburary, sort of forget for a couple months, and then started to look around and post.
Then you lied when you said account buying was ok at the time. By December 2016 DT members had started leaving neg trust for that shit. I can easily do that. Can you/suchmoon/The Pharmacist PM me? I have information which proves that, but I'd like not to be public.
Dude. Stop serial posting. And - no, I'm not going to engage in some behind-the-scenes validation because - in case you missed it - I don't trust you at all. I thought that it was fine at the time? My bad. I'm not going to post proof of that here since it's very personal. I'm sorry you've lost your trust in me. I had read that thread back when I was reading up on the controversies of the time. It doesn't really tell the whole story though. Whether this was an oversight on your part trying to move on from the Atriz brand at the time or not; but there is no accusation or proof on your part they did anything wrong. I don't even see any feedback from any of your accounts
I obviously don't know the details, but given the current situation (see below), it might have been a good idea to have aired the dirty laundry and had pinkman tagged. Assuming the reason you have for not paying them was NEG worthy. All I can find is the positive feedback you left pinkman that is still positive but has (delete) at the end of it. I may not have been clear in the previous post. Not trying to beat a dead horse but care to share any details that resulted in you being back stabbed. Provide as much or as little extra info as you wish, but my interest is whether or not repayment not continuing is justified. I would also suggest that the more questions you do answer, the less information you should leave out. It may help in avoiding situations like this where maybe you aren't managing a campaign or bounty for them, but you are involved with them, as a contracted employee to say the least. I am not involved with jamal. He offered me a job, so I checked the telegram group, but I haven't made a decision yet.
I'd recommend you to not involve payment issues from Jamal, over to me. All of the ICO's you've listed have exit scammed, blocked me, or I've done the work for them (final sheet). I don't see how I'm lying/deceiving here.
You cannot say you are not involved with someone and that you think about making a decision on a job offer they made you WHEN: *snip* The work he gave for me managing spreadsheets was work I asked for, so I can make some income. I don't see how managing a couple spreadsheet means that I'm his right man.
Aight TLDR JH found me when he asked for a loan for like 0.02 back when I ran a lending buisness JH was a eth dev, so I asked him so questions, we became threads, he helped me look for ICOs, give advice eg. JH then started helping me handle bounty distributions, with Bazista, in which he coded some smart contract to send to 100 addresses in one TXID. Similar to how Pay to many works. We kept being friends, talking about crypto, for at least once a week. Then snakey got "scammed" by the ico I promoted for 2-3 days. Messaged JH for advice, and he told me, pay him back, take the L, and then just continue business as usual (for clarifications JH=pinkman on telegram, who also controls snakey's BTT Repaid snakey 4 ETH, which was about how much (give or take 1 ETH), I earnt off Chroynos Coin (the ICO he got scammed for). Had 3 ETH stuck in bread wallet, and there were issues with sending ETH at the time, so I gave my private key to JH, and asked him to help me fix it. A day later, JH says he can't fix it, and my 3 eth disappeared, into some shapeshift address. I asked JH about it, he said I couldn't access wallet, so I believed him, and since he was my friend, didn't bother any more. Bazista's Content campaign had to get paid out soon, and since JH had access to the tokens, after the airdrop contract, I asked him to give them back to me, so I can do the distribution. He avoided me for a day and then said some bullshit lie, about shouldn't I have them, or something. At the time I had some suspicions about JH, and after snakey said "I know you are zapo" and merited me, I was like WTF? I only told 3 people at that time, JH included. Snakey sent me screenshots of his phone, JH sent me some before. Both phones were the exact same, and had the same writing tone. At this point, everything clicked. So I still technically owe snakey 13 ETH. But after what he has done to me, with hacking my wallet, running away with tokens, pretending to be a friend, I'm 100 percent not paying him that. Why you keep saying i am pinkman which i ain't. I ain't affiliated with any of your shit. For the money you have scammed me still chasing you. Karma is not going to forget you. You know i am broke and still you are doing this. For anyone who has doubt can kindly check my forum account as i can give you my password. I still have preserved all pms as i have not deleted any of my pm since beginning. I can provide you my telegram info so that you can log in and see my chats with atriz, hampuz , jh and all. I will provide my password only to a trusted member of community. I can
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October 06, 2018, 02:59:04 AM |
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Why you keep saying i am pinkman which i ain't. I ain't affiliated with any of your shit. For the money you have scammed me still chasing you. Karma is not going to forget you. You know i am broke and still you are doing this.
For anyone who has doubt can kindly check my forum account as i can give you my password. I still have preserved all pms as i have not deleted any of my pm since beginning.
I can provide you my telegram info so that you can log in and see my chats with atriz, hampuz , jh and all.
I will provide my password only to a trusted member of community. I can
You didn't deny this in our telegram convo yesterday, Sander Patt. I'm 100 percent not paying him that.
Have you considered paying the remainder to those who were scammed by snakey/pinkman? I have, but I don't see why it's neccassary. All the money I made off Chroynos, plus an extra 3 eth is all gone.
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I'm 100 percent not paying him that.
Why would anyone ever trust you if you are going to not honor your obligations after you claim to be wronged in some way? This includes if you were to divert money you owe him to others absent his explicit approval. If he really hacked your wallet, it would not be unreasonable to offset what was stolen with what you own him, provided you have evidence it was him. You would be nothing other than a scammer if you don’t repay what you promised to when you took out the loan minus what he allegedly stole from you.
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October 06, 2018, 05:25:32 AM Last edit: October 06, 2018, 07:41:51 AM by TucoRamirez |
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I have, but I don't see why it's neccassary. All the money I made off Chroynos, plus an extra 3 eth is all gone.
Nothing in life is necessary. But if you want to fix something that's broke, you have to make an effort. You didn't earn this money the hard way, and just because you were scammed shouldn't prevent you from making right another scam. Remember what I said earlier, ill gotten gains never go far... Edit: You didn't deny this in our telegram convo yesterday, Sander Patt.
Pls post screenshots of your conv so we can also see that pinkman12345 = snakey (sander patt on telegram).
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That makes about as little sense as all the other excuses we've heard from the 2015-2018 aTriz (for lack of a better definition) so there is good chance that this is indeed the same person.
Here is what you could do: stop lying, get a job IRL, repay the loans or whatever you owe to whomever, stop fucking around with alts, and stay away from shady deals, or any financial responsibility for that matter (use an escrow if you must).
Here is what you will do: same as usual.
I have been here for sometime and saw the allegations about bitblisscoin, the alia drama and subsequent negging of aTriz. From those incidents, aTriz comes across as someone who wants to stay involved with BCT and campaign management. This is probably what leads to the painstaking effort he has put into ensuring professionalism with Zapo account. People tend to resort to desperate actions for business when they are too involved. It is worrisome. In a decentralized marketplace, reputation is everything. Who decides on reputation? The subjective 'Trust' decisions lead to group-think and oligarchial strurctures. They even become meaningless for someone too big to fail. For example, in case of Quickseller. He supposedly has an army of alts and a -9999 rated account but does alright. (I mention QS purely as an academic interest. The account could be a case study in reputation and trust issues.) I suppose it works just fine for QS. I suppose it should work just fine for aTriz/ Zapo too as long as they don't stray too far from the honest / Full disclosure path. More than anything else though, his quandary should give us a lesson as to what kind of ethical behavior to follow while doing business HERE. Not resorting to "doing whats necessary". This may get you short term results but in a decentralized marketplace, it has a non-zero chance of doing some non-zero damage to whatever RPG character you choose to play on here. Whether this inherent correcting nature of the market / RPG actually works or not depends on what kind of disincentive this creates for business-owners who choose to be casual with their dealings. For the long term, this is the most important takeaway. Other than that, I guess we also need an objective measurement of how "Number/severity of mistakes" reflects on "reputation." PS: Zapo, Taking back the application. Thanks
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October 06, 2018, 11:29:42 AM |
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I can easily do that. Can you/suchmoon/The Pharmacist PM me? I have information which proves that, but I'd like not to be public.
Send me PM. Had 3 ETH stuck in bread wallet, and there were issues with sending ETH at the time, so I gave my private key to JH, and asked him to help me fix it. A day later, JH says he can't fix it, and my 3 eth disappeared, into some shapeshift address. I asked JH about it, he said I couldn't access wallet, so I believed him, and since he was my friend, didn't bother any more. Let me see if I got this right. 3 ethereum stuck in wallet, you asked someone for help, they said they can't fix it and your ethereum magically disappeared? You have to be kidding me! Can you post transaction ID?
Ok, I think I have to update this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3062663.0 with some newer information.
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LoyceV
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October 06, 2018, 12:11:16 PM |
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Very interesting how LoyceV find out your previous account. I can share that story It started when I merited this post (with LoyceMobile). What got my attention, is that Zapo posted a (zoomed in) screenshot of it: Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1564795Post Count: 295+1 Merit Count: 104 BTC Address: 15j7YNczxPnuTUYEufWTu2nKbSvK2TyMEh Telegram Username: @Heisenberg_Hunter All the 104 merits were received by me for the posts I made, none of them were airdropped like the spammers who own a shit ton of free airdropped merits. Alright, looks like you are in! I didn't expect a 4 month old fairly new Campaign Manager to know me. The use of the word "Alright" triggered me too, I've seen that used by aTriz in the same way. Recognizing me and my alt was confirmed the next day: -snip
I think that's not the case there, you we're accepted with the help of Merit from LoyceV/LoyceMobile, As we all know LoyceV is a well known here for his/her quality posts that is beneficial to this forum and, I think with that, it is already a proof that you have done well and it helped the Manager to conduct a fair decision. My Merit doesn't mean I agree with a post, it also doesn't mean I endorse a post. It means I think the post is worth reading, and in this case Heisenberg_Hunter made a good point. Someone who received 0 airdrop and earned 104 Merit shouldn't be excluded if the requirement is 100 airdrop + 20 earned Merit. The requirement is based on the assumption that barely anyone ranked up thanks to Merit. That was valid right after Merit was introduced, but nowadays more and more people rank up on their own. I didn't accept him/her purely on your merit, it's just that it was surpising to see your alt merit a signature post and I made an exception. His posts are of great quality anyway and he would have been accepted even if you didn't merit the post. Add the fact that a relatively new user started managing 2 Bitcoin-paying signatures campaigns with high rates, and the fact that Zapo was created just 3 days after aTriz received his first red trust, and it became very likely to be aTriz.
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October 06, 2018, 12:17:33 PM |
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I have, but I don't see why it's neccassary. All the money I made off Chroynos, plus an extra 3 eth is all gone.
Nothing in life is necessary. But if you want to fix something that's broke, you have to make an effort. You didn't earn this money the hard way, and just because you were scammed shouldn't prevent you from making right another scam. Remember what I said earlier, ill gotten gains never go far... Edit: You didn't deny this in our telegram convo yesterday, Sander Patt.
Pls post screenshots of your conv so we can also see that pinkman12345 = snakey (sander patt on telegram). Alright, I'll do it when I have time. He didn't deny or confirm it, but if you have talked to JH on tg before, it's quite obvious you are talking to the same person. I'm pissed at myself that I didn't get this earlier. I can easily do that. Can you/suchmoon/The Pharmacist PM me? I have information which proves that, but I'd like not to be public.
Send me PM. Had 3 ETH stuck in bread wallet, and there were issues with sending ETH at the time, so I gave my private key to JH, and asked him to help me fix it. A day later, JH says he can't fix it, and my 3 eth disappeared, into some shapeshift address. I asked JH about it, he said I couldn't access wallet, so I believed him, and since he was my friend, didn't bother any more. Let me see if I got this right. 3 ethereum stuck in wallet, you asked someone for help, they said they can't fix it and your ethereum magically disappeared? You have to be kidding me! Can you post transaction ID?
Ok, I think I have to update this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3062663.0 with some newer information. Alright, please don't leak. Gonna shift through my email and try login in my bread wallet to find TXID and my angry email to bread support about getting hacked.
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