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Considering there are a lot of hats in the ring these days; I thought a comprehensive list was in order. Below you will find hardware listed by manufacturer. I'm going to try and limit it to competitive hardware, but feel free to suggest something else be added if you feel the list falls short.

The purpose of this thread is not for discussion; I will link all current discussion topics and available forum reviews.

Pricing and specs taken from manufacturer websites. For hardware not sold directly by the manufacturer you will see a "Where to purchase" link to their distributor. See reviews and discussion threads for real world tests. Know that all miners have a variance in power consumption and hashrate depending on conditions, these are noted in the discussion/review threads or Manufacturer websites.

Current Leader in Advertised Efficiency = Bitmain S15 - Low power mode at .05 J/GH                                                   AB = Asic Boost

Bitfily

B1+ Snow Panther 10nm - MOQ 100 Units

Efficiency ~.086                      Hashrate = 24.5 TH/S              Power Consumption = 2100W                   Cost/TH = 36.69 USD                Requires AB enabled pool = Yes
Cost = 899 USD (Current Sale Price)

Discussion Thread              There is no review at this time.
Hardware Speculation: None at this time

Bitfury

The B8 aka. Snowleopard A1 16nm(Unavailable)

Efficiency ~.131 J/GH              Hashrate = 50 TH/S                 Power Consumption = 6400W                   Cost/TH = xxx                           Requires AB enabled pool = No
Cost = Unavailable sold out

Currently no review or discussion threads.
Hardware Speculation: The Tardis has been announced @ .079 J/GH, and is being discussed here. *Most efficient option referenced

Bitmain

S15 - Normal mode, see below for Low Power mode

Efficiency ~.057 J/GH              Hashrate = 27 TH/S               Power Consumption = 1596 W                  Cost/TH = 44.59 USD                 Requires AB enabled pool = No                
Cost before shipping/taxes/import fees = 1204 USD                        

Discussion Thread           Review

Hardware speculation: Here is a thread discussing the S17/T17 models
* Low power mode claims an efficiency of .05 J/TH - 16 TH @ 850 W at the wall.  Cost/TH = 75.25 USD.

Canaan

Current Miner - The Avalon 921 7nm

Efficiency ~.089 J/GH               Hashrate = 20 TH/S                 Power Consumption = 1800 W                   Cost/TH = 37.10 USD                Requires AB enabled pool = No
Cost before shipping/taxes/import fees = 742 USD  - This will vary as Canaan uses distributors for small batch purchases.

Discussion Thread            Review- One has not been completed yet.

Avalon 841 w/ Efficiency Firmware - Found on Canaan's website here, this EOL Miner can achieve efficiencies ~ .085 J/GH See here.

Hardware Speculation: Here is a thread discussing the A9 series, the specs are presumably what the Avalon 941 will release at.

Ebang

Current Miner - E10  10nm(Unavailable)

Efficiency ~.09  J/GH                   Hashrate = 18 TH/S              Power Consumption = 1650 W                   Cost/TH = xxx                           Requires AB enabled pool = No
Cost = Unavailable Sold Out

Discussion thread - No review done

Hardware Speculation: They have announced their E11 series. Here is a discussion thread.

Halong Mining

Current Miner - Dragonmint T1 (Unavailable)

Efficiency ~.092 J/GH                   Hashrate = 16 TH/S              Power Consumption = 1480 W                   Cost/TH = 74.93 USD                 Requires AB enabled pool = Yes
Cost before shipping/taxes/import fees = 1199 USD

Discussion                           Review
Where to purchase: https://myrig.com/

Hardware Speculation: Nothing at this time. Will update accordingly.

Innosilicon

Current Miner - T2 Turbo 10nm          ** 3 available power/efficiency settings available see review  

Efficiency ~.082 J/GH                 Hashrate = 24 TH/S                Power Consumption = 1980 W                     Cost/TH = 56.25 USD                Requires AB enabled pool = Yes
Cost before shipping/taxes/import fees = 1350 USD                          ** PSU included

Discussion and Review Thread

Hardware Speculation: T2 Turbo+ should be shippng October 10,2018 (Currently no thread, will update) See website: http://www.innosilicon.com/html/t2t+-miner/index.html
T3 - Mentioned here by Inno_Asic

MicroBT

Current Miner - Whatsminer M10 16nm  ** This unit also has a low efficiency mode, and a 31TH model

Efficiency ~.065 J/GH               Hashrate = 33 TH/S                  Power Consumption = 2150 W                     Cost/TH = 30.96 USD                 Requires AB enabled pool = No
Cost before shipping/taxes/import fees =  1022 USD                          ** PSU included

Discussion Thread             Review
Where to purchase: https://whatsminer.net/ , https://pangolinminer.com

MicroBT is also now offering the Whatsminer M10S - The efficiency specs are nearly identical it is just a more powerful unit. Here is an update regarding it's real world performance. It is listed on the Whatsminer website for sale.

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October 08, 2018, 08:39:50 PM
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Cool thread. How often you think you'll maintain?

Also, T1's are still accessible.

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October 08, 2018, 09:21:47 PM
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Great article, but here are some comments:

Whatsminer is wrong.

Wrong company name. Wrong web address.

The right information is:

MicroBT
http://www.microbt.com/

Whatsminer.net and Pangolinminer.com are distributors for the Whatsminer hardware.

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October 08, 2018, 09:44:43 PM
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I would love to see a price per TH metric added.  Smiley

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@ og more complex the price per th.

you have price per th to usa due to 27.6% tax
you have price per th to europe due to 18% tax  I know that varies
you have price per th to rest of world maybe with 0% tax.

you have  time to wait on gear
you have coupons
you have shipping cost
you have btc conversion rates

you have  watts per th.

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@ og more complex the price per th.

you have price per th to usa due to 27.6% tax
you have price per th to europe due to 18% tax  I know that varies
you have price per th to rest of world maybe with 0% tax.

you have  time to wait on gear
you have coupons
you have shipping cost
you have btc conversion rates

you have  watts per th.

In that case I demand he immediately put together an interface where I can put in my information and it will automatically tell me the best hardware for the buck.  Kidding.  Smiley

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October 08, 2018, 10:23:38 PM
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On mobile.

Thanks for the updated info. I'll update the whatsminer stuff this evening. I did have a tough time sorting through their chain. Missed something I guess.

I'll add a price per TH that's  no issue. With this being a global market. My idea is just keeping it basic based on from manufacturer. People can figure out the extra based on their situation, based on the links they follow.

I'll maintain the thread to within a few days, as best I can.

Can you elaborate on the T1's I just went by their webpage.

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October 08, 2018, 10:38:10 PM
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Cool thread. How often you think you'll maintain?

Also, T1's are still accessible.

Do you mean that Halong or MyRig is still selling T1 units?

Could you elaborate?

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October 09, 2018, 02:57:47 AM
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I have updated the OP.

@Thanks again Haggs, it wasn't until I re-read your review that I found where I missed the information for Whatsminer.

@Og, I added in a quick cost/TH. I'll get right on that super smart system, give me a year longer than the new forum software. Grin

Also, T1's are still accessible.

I completely forgot about Myrig. Updated, not sure how many they still have.

I think going forward, once hardware is only available on the secondary market I will remove all pricing data. Not the situation here but may be shortly.



Appreciate all the input. Honestly I had to do this because I found myself getting lost in what has or hasn't launched. Feel free to let me know anytime there is anything you feel is lacking or would make a good addition/update.

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Yes MyRig, I would consider them worthy to list in referance to the T1.

Also MicroBT website correct? No real links and a bunch of wechat qc's? Contact email comes back undeliverable.

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Two lesser ones are

GMO from Japan
Triple-1 from Japan

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Have either of them put miners in the hands of customers yet? I thought GMO was close as in this month, but that they were still preorder. 

I am interested in triple-1 but same as above I didn't think they had delivered a miner yet.

Maybe in an effort of fairness for current market sales I will add a general speculation section at the bottom for companies who have yet to deliver a miner but have announced competitive hardware.

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How about Bitfury stuff?

Bitfury Tardis miner, 6.3 KW. The Bitfury Tardis miner is offered with different configuration options:

5 hashboards, 66TH/s, 6,3KW – 95 mJ/GH, $55 per TH/s
6 hashboards, 71TH/s, 6,3KW -  88 mJ/GH, $58 per TH/s
7 hashboards, 75TH/s, 6,3KW -  84 mJ/GH, $61 per TH/s
8 hashboards, 78TH/s, 6,3KW -  80 mJ/GH, $65 per TH/s
Each hashboard contains 128 Bitfury Clarke chips.
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October 11, 2018, 08:34:56 PM
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Yep, Bitfury is legit for sure.

I think their most power efficient version of the new Tardis miner could make sense for big scale miners.

https://bitfury.com/hardware/bitfury-tardis
https://bitfury.com/content/downloads/bitfury-b9-tardis-datasheet.pdf

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Yeah I was doing some research on Bitfury last night, but need to do more.  I have a post somewhere a fee months back about someone looking into the snow leopard, and I did read up on the tardis.

Last I checked though they had a MOQ of 100 units. Here's where it becomes opinion and I'll defer to the community.

Is a company that has a MOQ of 100 really competitive? I'm going to keep digging tonight, but if anyone can point me to a distributor or something where anyone can pick them up thag would be great

If not I will add them at the bottom, under a industrial title or something of the sorts.

Still looking into GMO and triple 1 waiting for a product to materialize.

Keep the info coming people I appreciate the assistance in keeping this list up to date.

Edit: MOQ may have changed, if I can find some hard facts that the panther had been delivered out to customers I'll add them with the tardis being speculation. They are tough, as I recall they didn't sell to the global public for many years and have only recently started doing this again.

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I thought that by 'competitive' you mean the current gen. / top efficiency hardware?

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You're right Hagss.

Sorry for the confusion, I may just have to stop replying from mobile for some threads.

So in keeping with the theme of having hardware currently out or having been delivered  that is recently competitive, I need to research their panther or B3 snowleopard or b8 I think it was called. If I can't find some hard facts on that miner having been sold, then they only have a spec sheet for unreleased hardware the "tardis".

When I was starting to think about this thread I believe they only had the shipping container build up on their website so they were passed over.

That being said.  I am looking into the tardis for details and if anyone can send something regarding their last miner that was sold, I will update OP accordingly.

I will probably also ad in a metric for units that have a MOQ.

As always I am open to suggestions and input. If someone feels I am leaving out a key piece if information we can discuss adding it.

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Their previous gen. miner is called Bitfury B8.

There is an old product page here: https://bitfury.com/hardware/server

Specs https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/bitfury/b8

It uses this 16nm chip https://bitfury.com/content/downloads/16-nm-asic-datasheet-2018-04-002.pdf

The BlockBox AC actually consists of 176 pieces of these Bitfury B8 miners. https://bitfury.com/content/downloads/blockboxac-brochure-2018-04-002-layouts.compressed.pdf

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Still looking into GMO and triple 1 waiting for a product to materialize.

As per GMO website, i.e. https://gmominer.z.com/en/

GMO miner B3 is sold out temporarily due to the very high demand. Please kindly wait until we restart selling.
For those who wish to order, please contact us via the Inquiry Form below the FAQ page.
We will be in touch with you once we restart selling.


So, I guess, GMO product has already been materialized. I could not understand anything from http://triple-1.com/ though.

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October 12, 2018, 02:20:42 AM
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How about Bitfury stuff?
Yep, Bitfury is legit for sure.

Bitfury has been added. It's tough to find anything on their gear out in the wild but there are some videos out there. A lot of the info available does seem to be in russian, but I have sent a request for information from them regarding the Tardis. Mostly with expected shipdates and what not, this way once it's proven real somewhere it can take the current hardware slot.

So, I guess, GMO product has already been materialized.

I read the same and going back through the discussion threads on the forum, it had an expected shipdate in October. So with them still being a new company having never produced hadware to consumers I'm holding off.

If they keep to their commitments and ship something out at any point they will be placed on the list for sure. Again they have been sent a request for information, we'll see if they get back to me.

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