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October 10, 2018, 08:45:59 PM
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It will never happen. Bitcoin will stay bitcoin and fiat will stay as fiat. The governments will not sit and watch that happen. That why some countrys are banned bitcoin now for obvious reason. They dont want bitcoin take over their economy. So bitcoin will become bitcoin and fiat will always become fiat. Not more then that.
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October 10, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
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if you see from his words, he really expects the fiat financial system to collapse and be replaced with crypto. yes, that is too extreme, when the real system has been established and a new system is still emerging, I think the government will not accept it. because the risk is very large. Even though technology is more powerful. but the value is a priority for transactions. especially stable value. better is fiat in collaboration with crypto. it is very good in my opinion.
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October 10, 2018, 11:08:50 PM
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Seems to me that the writing is already on the wall.
I don't read that comment as if he wants the system to collapse, but rather when it does at least we will have sound money to exchange value with.
Woke people will be in a good starting position for a financial reset and those who still believe fiat is money will have the curtain pulled back and they will see that they have been getting conned their entire lives.
When control of the money supply is given back to the people who actually contribute to it's value (not the social parasites who call themselves financial elites), you can surely expect a major downsizing if not total dissolution of governments and central banks.
Without the criminal banking cabals and their political muppets in control of peoples money they will find it very difficult to wage their wars and wreak havoc around the world.
When people are not divided by false flags and fear, I expect humanity will unite and usher in an era of peace and prosperity like we have never seen before.

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October 10, 2018, 11:15:57 PM
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Bitcoin is definitely not just about exiting fiat. But to a lot of people, me included the draw is to be my own bank, to the extent that I can be.

I like not having other people control my money. I also believe that the dollar keeps losing it's value and it might lose its value really fast in the future.

The collapse of the dollar doesn't necessarily mean that bitcoin and other crypto (or even regular) currencies will rise to the top and that the people of the USA will all lose their money.


There's still stocks and property. Stocks and property don't base their value on the dollar even if they are dollar denominated at this point in time. The dollar collapsing doesn't necessarily mean that everyone will start using bitcoin.

Even if everyone tried to use bitcoin to be "exiting fiat" we don't currently have working scalability to keep bitcoin decentralized and censorship resistant. People would have to use bitcoin accounts on online institutions that would mirror banks. This would be a superior system (to current banking) in my opinion but this is a different discussion all together. 

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October 10, 2018, 11:24:16 PM
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in my opinion, in the future fiat will still survive. but the crypto will be a competitor for fiat in the future, and crypto will dominate every transaction, we will see crypto used to pay for items that have little value or even for large businesses.

fiat will be used by some people who do not understand technology, and they are primitive.
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October 11, 2018, 01:52:29 AM
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A lot of people take it to the extreme for the attention it provides - not many people (on the outer anyways) are interested in hearing smart people taking their time and doing 'mediocre' things with 'mediocre' opinions
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October 11, 2018, 02:00:50 AM
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because the population in this world, almost 80% do not use bitcoin, and if he forces to replace fiat to bitcoin, isn't that a violation because he insists. the government also certainly does not approve it, because bitcoin does not have clear regulations, and fiat is an important element for a country's economy, not bitcoin.
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December 08, 2018, 08:08:04 PM
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This kind of bitcoiner is being too aggressive and somehow irrational. I believe everything should be treated with a gradual process and this is the best way to go if we want people to embrace the world of cryptocurrencies. I think we need the right approach to ensure that this becomes a reality.
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December 08, 2018, 08:12:39 PM
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That is a significant risk, do you accept all bets on Bitcoin? If Bitcoin replaces the FIAT, you will become rich through fortune change, if this does not happen you will die in misery. Would you like to trade it all for Bitcoin?

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December 08, 2018, 08:17:53 PM
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It's really crazy to think that bitcoin is gonna send Fiat parking and be the number one currency or medium of exchange,anyone who thought about that for a second actually needs a rethink and also to go take a look at the bitcoin whitepaper

That wasn't the intention of nakamoto,it was simply meant to be alternate to fiat and work without an institution as opposed to fiat..

There would never come a time when bitcoin will be used more than conventional Fiat currencies,thats a fact
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December 08, 2018, 09:34:35 PM
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BTC is not even an alternative to fiat currencies lile USD. There is a long way to go. Fiat currency does not fit all needs of our financial system that we have now and BTC may offer more. But it still needs to have standard properties of an usual fiat currency like stability and acceptance.

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December 08, 2018, 11:44:18 PM
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Cryptocurrency will achieve a lot in the future, but I don't think it can completely replace Fiat money. Perhaps this will happen, but very not soon. In first it is necessary that people get used to it. Also a big problem is the instability of crypto. This does not allow it to exist as a full-fledged beach instrument and so far it remains only a speculative tool.

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December 09, 2018, 12:11:27 AM
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BTC is not even an alternative to fiat currencies lile USD. There is a long way to go. Fiat currency does not fit all needs of our financial system that we have now and BTC may offer more. But it still needs to have standard properties of an usual fiat currency like stability and acceptance.

I know right, and I don't know why people are saying that the Bitcoin and other crypto currencies will be taking over the world of currency in the future. I am not taking their posts seriously since I know most of them are half-hearted posts but there are people that read these posts and that can affect their belief unto Bitcoin that may be passed unto other.

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December 09, 2018, 01:37:52 AM
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Damn he is taking it too far, having bitcoin and fiat together is not that bad and its better if they both exist ,all I believe is in the future people will have to trust blockchain tech ,lack of trust still plagues blockchain technology presently.

Yes, about the rumors that many people have been fooled by the blockchain, I do not like this news and I think it is fake, and what about you? I have seen and do not understand why we do not trust blockchain, which makes it safe and gives us money Undecided.

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December 09, 2018, 02:33:51 AM
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It will never happen. Bitcoin will stay bitcoin and fiat will stay as fiat. The governments will not sit and watch that happen. That why some countrys are banned bitcoin now for obvious reason. They dont want bitcoin take over their economy. So bitcoin will become bitcoin and fiat will always become fiat. Not more then that.
I think he is only a user who is too proud of Bitcoin above all, he will understand then after seeing the price of bitcoin jiggling
and the bad situation in bitcoin like now, that bitcoin is not a perfect currency, we need fiat and fiat will stay alive anytime
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December 09, 2018, 02:43:49 AM
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This kind of bitcoiner is being too aggressive and somehow irrational. I believe everything should be treated with a gradual process and this is the best way to go if we want people to embrace the world of cryptocurrencies. I think we need the right approach to ensure that this becomes a reality.

the correct word seems to be "desperate". at least that is the way i see it, because it was published during on of the downtrends a while ago and it only shows how the author has been losing money and wanting to hype up bitcoin thinking that way he can save his investment and make some money back. i am willing to bet that he doesn't understand the concepts he posted in his tweet and is just repeating them like a parrot!

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December 09, 2018, 04:40:12 AM
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Social media posts usually sound more radical and extremist,in order to get viral (more shares,more followers).
I don't believe that this guy is such a bitcoin fanatic.He just wants to spread awareness around the noobs,that bitcoin "is the future".This is more like a propaganda thing,instead of an honest statement.

You're right, this guy is more interested in collecting twitter followers than anything else. He knows how to push peoples' buttons by putting together combinations of buzz words.

He also fails to realize that you can't have bitcoin without a healthy economy. If the economy collapses, bitcoin is going down with it... It may resurface if a solid power grid and internet connectivity is still around, but its going to be one of the first high-risk investments sold off in the face of an oncoming stock market crash. Which people will then, however ironically, pile into fiat as a safe haven investment.

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December 09, 2018, 06:44:42 AM
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" The average life expectancy for a fiat currency is 27 years, with the shortest life span being one month. Founded in 1694, the British pound Sterling is the oldest fiat currency in existence. At a ripe old age of 317 years it must be considered a highly successful fiat currency. " - http://www.resourceinvestor.com/2011/01/23/time-different-dollar

People know fiat currencies will eventually fail, so statements like this is not totally exaggerated if you take it from that context. It is not as if Bitcoiners want fiat to fail, they rather know what the end result will be and they are giving people advance notice that it is going to happen.

Why should people ignore the signs of a massive tornado, if they can prepare for it? Bitcoin is Plan B, when these fiat currencies start failing.  Cool


It is not easily that possible in my opinion. Do you really believe the top whale-cummulators of all whale-cumulators' and their masters will not move and manipulate their politician puppets to protect their interests? A world war would have to break out first before something can bring down their fiat "playground", if it can bring it down.

Yes, they have done it before and they will do it again. The masters of the fiat system would have moved their "wealth" into another store of value, long before the collapse would happen, because they are the architects of this system and they know when it will collapse. <After all, they are the people who are manipulating it>

Do not underestimate the resolve of these maniacs, just look at the damage that were done with the 2008 financial crisis. Tax money cannot bail out these people forever.  Angry

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December 09, 2018, 07:00:35 AM
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Haha.

https://twitter.com/francispouliot_/status/1049313082344988673?s=21

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"Buying Bitcoin is about exiting fiat. It's a bet on the future collapse of fiat money financial system. Bitcoin is the only viable alternative. It's vastly superior as censorship-resistant medium of exchage, store of value, network effect, unit of account than all competitors."

He is taking it to the extreme. Why does Bitcoin need to be a "bet" on the future collapse if the established financial system? Does he want it to collapse? Does he believe that it will not encourage instability, disorder, and chaos? What about the other 99.9% of the population who are not Bitcoiners?


I don't pretend bitcoin as a bet, actually I am not that type of bitcoiner. I pretend bitcoin as a great chance to gain profit in the fluctuations price of it. Believe it or not, people are move from cash to digital money usage. Governments support electronic transactions which provide lower cost of maintenance and better supervision. If we talk in macro economy scope, the fiat money system was already create very big chaos, government always spend more money or create fiscal policy to balance the economy and improve it litle by litle but the inflation of fiat money always cause very bad impact to the economy. I personally prefer to save gold rather than fiat but  it is not practical. So I still need fiat as well. I hope there are medium of exchange that the price always moves in line with gold price. Believe me, our economy will be better.




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December 10, 2018, 01:46:25 AM
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Haha.

https://twitter.com/francispouliot_/status/1049313082344988673?s=21

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"Buying Bitcoin is about exiting fiat. It's a bet on the future collapse of fiat money financial system. Bitcoin is the only viable alternative. It's vastly superior as censorship-resistant medium of exchage, store of value, network effect, unit of account than all competitors."

He is taking it to the extreme. Why does Bitcoin need to be a "bet" on the future collapse if the established financial system? Does he want it to collapse? Does he believe that it will not encourage instability, disorder, and chaos? What about the other 99.9% of the population who are not Bitcoiners?



He was talking about the fiat money financial system, and afraid it will collapse if we all use only bitcoin, not fiat anymore.
But hey, if we are using cryptocurrency in the future, i think fiat money will have no use at all.
When the cryptocurrency have a stable price, fast speed, high availability, accepted by everyone, and other advantages over fiat, no one will use fiat again, right ?
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