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October 13, 2018, 05:44:15 PM
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As long as they got paid with any currency, they capable to "manage" the campaign and it will let them become experience for future proposal.

So it's depend on people who hire the smart manager or manager like OP's mention
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October 13, 2018, 06:34:28 PM
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The last straw for you is their inability to spell words right? I think we should be punishing campaign managers, but not because of their illiteracy.

Theymos doesn’t believe in regulations. He refuses to participate in the creating of regulations that would even result in greater freedoms (ability to buy btc in etf form) for bitcoin holders.

This forum has rules. So does bitcoin. If you come here and spam rubbish or copy and paste then you get banned. The same should be applied to those who are paying them to do this in the first place and if we don't 'regulate' campaigns then nothing will change here as they will continue to be lazy and pay for any old spam. The forum is such a shitshow because we've done little to nothing about spam coming from campaigns. Had we done something about it years ago instead of just letting it breed then the forum wouldn't be such the eyesore it is now.
The forum does have rules. Although they have often gone unenforced, especially when it comes to ban evasion.

I don’t think regulations of bounty managers will accomplish anything because they can just manage campaigns off site, and attempting to regulate may preemptively do that.

Even if regulations were put in place, I wouldn’t penalize BMs because they can’t speak English or because they themselves make shit post garbage.

I think a better solution would be to charge to create both an ANN thread and to create a bounty thread. Some exceptions can be made if a coin exceeds certain criteria, especially for ANN threads. The cost should not be nominal, perhaps in the thousands of dollars.
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October 13, 2018, 06:46:13 PM
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I think a better solution would be to charge to create both an ANN thread and to create a bounty thread. Some exceptions can be made if a coin exceeds certain criteria, especially for ANN threads. The cost should not be nominal, perhaps in the thousands of dollars.
It may really decrease lots of problem regarding those but it will be the worst step because people will call theymos greedy while they don't know what will be the use of those funds. I read somewhere that theymos don't take any profit from the forum. Also, if theymos charges for ANN thread and bounty thread, there will be a lot of tasks because you can't permit a scammer for scamming people by paying you. After all, it is not a good solution.
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October 13, 2018, 07:05:59 PM
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I think a better solution would be to charge to create both an ANN thread and to create a bounty thread. Some exceptions can be made if a coin exceeds certain criteria, especially for ANN threads. The cost should not be nominal, perhaps in the thousands of dollars.
It may really decrease lots of problem regarding those but it will be the worst step because people will call theymos greedy while they don't know what will be the use of those funds. I read somewhere that theymos don't take any profit from the forum. Also, if theymos charges for ANN thread and bounty thread, there will be a lot of tasks because you can't permit a scammer for scamming people by paying you. After all, it is not a good solution.
People can call theymos greedy. Or theymos can recycle money he receives back into the economy via donations to charities.

Just because you take money to allow posts, you are not under any obligation to filter out scams, as I believe he would still be exempted from liability under section 230 of the communications decency act.

I also believe theymos should change people to rank up, or at least to wear a signature in order to give incentives to not post garbage.
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October 13, 2018, 07:13:34 PM
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How about we implement rules for people wanting to implement rules instead?

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October 13, 2018, 09:51:23 PM
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If a bounty manager can't write the word "stake", what can we expect from him?

Come on now. What if the bounty manager just isn't a native english speaker, hence the misspelling? Not because someone is from a foreign country(with very low english usage) it doesn't mean the bounty manager is automatically "fishy". Though I'm also not saying that the manager is legit or not.

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October 14, 2018, 06:33:14 AM
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The last straw for you is their inability to spell words right? I think we should be punishing campaign managers, but not because of their illiteracy.

Theymos doesn’t believe in regulations. He refuses to participate in the creating of regulations that would even result in greater freedoms (ability to buy btc in etf form) for bitcoin holders.

This forum has rules. So does bitcoin. If you come here and spam rubbish or copy and paste then you get banned. The same should be applied to those who are paying them to do this in the first place and if we don't 'regulate' campaigns then nothing will change here as they will continue to be lazy and pay for any old spam. The forum is such a shitshow because we've done little to nothing about spam coming from campaigns. Had we done something about it years ago instead of just letting it breed then the forum wouldn't be such the eyesore it is now.
The forum does have rules. Although they have often gone unenforced, especially when it comes to ban evasion.

Well that's something I think should change and more admins would solve this. If theymos isn't that bothered about enforcing bane evasion then we should just get rid of the rule and make it that you can just create another account to use because that's what people do anyway.

I don’t think regulations of bounty managers will accomplish anything because they can just manage campaigns off site, and attempting to regulate may preemptively do that.

Well I anticipated this and that's why I've suggested we need signature bans/blacklists as well and that's what was meant to happen with the Signature Campaign Guidelines. If a campaign was banned then so would their signatures.

I think a better solution would be to charge to create both an ANN thread and to create a bounty thread. Some exceptions can be made if a coin exceeds certain criteria, especially for ANN threads. The cost should not be nominal, perhaps in the thousands of dollars.

I've also suggested this, and theymos did at least put it into the 'maybe' category: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4893744.msg44432901#msg44432901

I think a better solution would be to charge to create both an ANN thread and to create a bounty thread. Some exceptions can be made if a coin exceeds certain criteria, especially for ANN threads. The cost should not be nominal, perhaps in the thousands of dollars.
It may really decrease lots of problem regarding those but it will be the worst step because people will call theymos greedy while they don't know what will be the use of those funds. I read somewhere that theymos don't take any profit from the forum. Also, if theymos charges for ANN thread and bounty thread, there will be a lot of tasks because you can't permit a scammer for scamming people by paying you. After all, it is not a good solution.

theymos doesn't have to care about the money and it can be given to charity, but I think ICOs should have to pay something to operate here. Do Facebook and Google let you advertise for free? No. Not only do they advertise for free but they do it at the detriment and destruction of the forum and that shouldn't be allowed to continue. I'd estimate probably at least 90% of staff workload is caused by ICOs and the spam they cause so they should probably have to start compensating for that. It really annoys me that staff are effectively defacto campaign managers for ICOs that are too lazy to do their own job and they sit back and often collect millions in the process.

Once they've paid the fee here we could give them their own sub board in the Alt Coin section and this would also eliminate paid bumping because it would become useless and futile, so there are numerous benefits to this in my opinion.

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