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October 14, 2018, 06:32:45 PM
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40 merit for this reply,

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29 merit for this reply,

For reference you can visit here ----> https://dice-bet.com/leaderboard and select monthly to view the leaderboard at any time.


20 merit for this reply,

Come on site and ill send the satoshis  Cool

All merits send to Dice-Bet, is it not merit abuse? since there are btc involved.

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October 15, 2018, 11:44:45 AM
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There's possibly more btc involved besides that 6000 satoshi or maybe the merit sender is just very fond of dice-bet. I've seen people who gives merit to people they like even when the post even deserve that much merit. He even wears the dice-bet signature. That's too much merit sent tho.
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October 18, 2018, 08:08:05 PM
Last edit: October 19, 2018, 05:00:26 AM by Barcode_
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I saw this conversation on Dice-Bet chat room today, the admin of the site who is mike have sent user Miraeos a total of 5 merits after Miraeos said that he would need 4 more merits in order to rank up his account to member rank on bitcointalk, check screenshot below for proof.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2385931 - Mirae ( Miraeos on Dice-Bet )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=950218 - Dice-Bet ( Mike on Dice-Bet )



So basically Mike just sent 5 merits straightaway to this user Mirae on this post after Mirae pointed out to Mike that he needs 4 more merits to promote to member rank.

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October 18, 2018, 09:20:46 PM
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Blatant merit abuse! Pretty sure it's a big cycle of accounts are involved here. People send a high number of merits to Dice-Bet account which are further distributed to rank up members as per the screenshot. Who knows if they have actually bought those merits in bulk. Definitely worth a tag.


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October 18, 2018, 10:10:18 PM
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Blatant merit abuse! Pretty sure it's a big cycle of accounts are involved here. People send a high number of merits to Dice-Bet account which are further distributed to rank up members as per the screenshot. Who knows if they have actually bought those merits in bulk. Definitely worth a tag.

I like the investor leverage option - might try it out! Getting way too diluted at 1x leverage as a bankroll investor these days.

Just asking, are you guys affiliated with Dice-bet considering you gave him 10 merits on his post Tongue

Also I just asked and the minimum amount to invest in the same as the minimum amount to bet ( 0.000001 BTC ), ( 0.00001  for LTC ), and ( 0.00002 for ETH )

We are being paid to promote DiceBet on https://bitcoingamblingreviews.com/ through banners not the investment though  Wink



That was 10 merit post, when they Dice-bet was first starting out but the merit Dice-bet recieved is from sponsors ( so bought? but they are affliated though, so its basically like a ICO thread getting 50 merits from a alt, that wouldn't be abuse. )

But otherwise the merited post to Mirae is merit abuse. I don't think Mike (Dice-bet) knows if this is alright on bitcointalk, probably his first time on here considering he doesn't really know how to put signature in a code box one time I asked him about that.
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October 19, 2018, 04:31:32 AM
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ooh god no merit abuse  Cry
jesus grow up

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October 19, 2018, 10:46:36 AM
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ooh god no merit abuse  Cry

..the admin of the site who is mike have sent user Miraeos a total of 5 merits after Miraeos said that he would need 4 more merits in order to rank up his account to member rank on bitcointalk, check screenshot below for proof.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2385931 - Mirae ( Miraeos on Dice-Bet )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=950218 - Dice-Bet ( Mike on Dice-Bet )

So basically Mike just sent 5 merits straightaway to this user Mirae on this post after Mirae pointed out to Mike that he needs 4 more merits to promote to member rank.


Based from the post above. What you did is a form of Merit begging which in relate to Merit abuse as well (as per my own understanding).

There's possibly more btc involved besides that 6000 satoshi or maybe the merit sender is just very fond of dice-bet. I've seen people who gives merit to people they like even when the post even deserve that much merit. He even wears the dice-bet signature. That's too much merit sent tho.

Merit is not regulated per se. Well, let's wait if these users will try to explain their selves out.
As for me, this a red tag worthy.



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October 19, 2018, 01:18:05 PM
Last edit: October 23, 2018, 06:52:53 AM by LoyceV
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I stumbled upon this today:

The link leads to this post
Oh, I am going to do one thing before I sign off for now. Since most people are off work/school today because it’s the weekend, and there should be more people on line than during the week and I have too much merit laying around, the next 5 people to respond to this thread get 30 merit.

Which leads to these posts receiving 30 Merit each:
could really handle some merit!
I'm here! Cheesy
Oh yeah I'm a merit slut Wink


edit: oops
nice
30 merit left? Cheesy
Not only does this go against everything Merit stands for, it's also totally off-topic, and worst of all: it's a Merit source (#2 most Merit sent) doing this.

Update: it looks like QuestionAuthority was removed as Merit source.

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October 19, 2018, 01:46:11 PM
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ooh god no merit abuse  Cry

..the admin of the site who is mike have sent user Miraeos a total of 5 merits after Miraeos said that he would need 4 more merits in order to rank up his account to member rank on bitcointalk, check screenshot below for proof.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2385931 - Mirae ( Miraeos on Dice-Bet )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=950218 - Dice-Bet ( Mike on Dice-Bet )

So basically Mike just sent 5 merits straightaway to this user Mirae on this post after Mirae pointed out to Mike that he needs 4 more merits to promote to member rank.


Based from the post above. What you did is a form of Merit begging which in relate to Merit abuse as well (as per my own understanding).

There's possibly more btc involved besides that 6000 satoshi or maybe the merit sender is just very fond of dice-bet. I've seen people who gives merit to people they like even when the post even deserve that much merit. He even wears the dice-bet signature. That's too much merit sent tho.

Merit is not regulated per se. Well, let's wait if these users will try to explain their selves out.
As for me, this a red tag worthy.




lmao "form of Merit begging"
what a joke this is, wanna give me red tag, sure go for it

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https://www.coinmedicate.com/the-rock-trading-selective-scam/
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October 19, 2018, 02:34:38 PM
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Not only does this go against everything Merit stands for, it's also totally off-topic, and worst of all: it's a Merit source (#2 most Merit sent) doing this.
Merit abuse by the merit source. Lips sealed

I don't think this is right thing to do by one of the most merit source burn all those off topic merits and merited comments. Angry

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October 19, 2018, 05:34:52 PM
Last edit: October 20, 2018, 04:00:58 AM by Coolcryptovator
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Can some one confirm QuestionAuthority merit source or not ? Its seems high merit transaction abuse on his profile (IMO). I am really disappointed that 30 merit only for "nice" comment.  
Just noticed now, he have made a thread about merit giveaway.

I saw this conversation on Dice-Bet chat room today, the admin of the site who is mike have sent user Miraeos a total of 5 merits after Miraeos said that he would need 4 more merits in order to rank up his account to member rank on bitcointalk, check screenshot below for proof.

Even there is strong proof they, should not get tag ? Its seems they are plying with merit. Although evidence provided by staff but I think enough to tag them.

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October 19, 2018, 05:53:41 PM
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Can some one confirm QuestionAuthority merit source or not ? Its seems lot of merit abuse on his profile (IMO). I am really disappointed that 30 merit only for "nice" comment.  

Yes,he is a merit source.You can verify that in Most generous merit senders, all time where the user QuestionAuthority is in the second place.

And also you can visit Merit System Upgrade which was created by QuestionAuthortiy as merit giveaway thread then he later turned into an merit source but still he is following there for quality posts to be merited.

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October 19, 2018, 10:19:10 PM
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lmao "form of Merit begging"
what a joke this is, wanna give me red tag, sure go for it
You are entitled to a negative feedback retard. Don't act like you're doing something that isn't against the rules. Grow a pair and make an attempt to earn merits instead of begging.

And also you can visit Merit System Upgrade which was created by QuestionAuthortiy as merit giveaway thread then he later turned into an merit source but still he is following there for quality posts to be merited.
But is he abusing merits? I don't know why these merit beggers aren't tagged yet.


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October 19, 2018, 11:34:57 PM
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Not only does this go against everything Merit stands for, it's also totally off-topic, and worst of all: it's a Merit source (#2 most Merit sent) doing this.
Idk about Raja_MBZ, Last of the V8s, xhomerx10 but the other 2 guys don't really deserve 30 merits. The ulrich_zh guy posted "nice" thrice just to get more merits. While its a good thing that QA doesn't spend insane amount of time thinking whether or not he should give 1 merit to a user unlike other <insert other insane merit sources who overthink too much here>, QA shouldn't just shove his merits to hoe's out there. I mean, we get it, you are rich, stop showin' off. We don't want a bitcointalk version of Trump(we already have theymos and cyrus), otherwise before you know it, Stormy Daniels would come here accusing you of sexual merit abuse.

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October 20, 2018, 05:57:15 AM
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Not only does this go against everything Merit stands for, it's also totally off-topic, and worst of all: it's a Merit source (#2 most Merit sent) doing this.
Idk about Raja_MBZ, Last of the V8s, xhomerx10 but the other 2 guys don't really deserve 30 merits. The ulrich_zh guy posted "nice" thrice just to get more merits. While its a good thing that QA doesn't spend insane amount of time thinking whether or not he should give 1 merit to a user unlike other <insert other insane merit sources who overthink too much here>, QA shouldn't just shove his merits to hoe's out there. I mean, we get it, you are rich, stop showin' off. We don't want a bitcointalk version of Trump(we already have theymos and cyrus), otherwise before you know it, Stormy Daniels would come here accusing you of sexual merit abuse.



I really don't see the harm done here. It's not like QA was handing out merits to his alt accounts, so he can sell them for more on the open market. Also, @LoyceV the Wall Observer thread has been off-topic for quite sometime. In fact, it is no longer moderated by the staff. It is currently moderated by infofront. But he only deletes some troll posts from time to time.


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October 20, 2018, 06:29:08 AM
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I really don't see the harm done here.
Merit is supposed to stop shitposters from ranking up. "Airdropping" 30% of Full Member onto spamming Newbies just because they posted at the right moment goes against this:
While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

The 30 Merit on higher ranks makes less of a difference than it does for lower ranks.

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Last edit: October 20, 2018, 07:33:31 AM by Coolcryptovator
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The 30 Merit on higher ranks makes less of a difference than it does for lower ranks.

I have replied on his giveaway thread. I post about his merit distributions, he is doing well But his way is wrong. So for explaination I gave few example. But unfortunately some one thinking I replied for get merit (Lol). However it's not looking good to me his merits distributions. I replied there why I am not agree with him. I know he don't care about red tag or whatever. But he have no right to distribute merit on wrong hands, since he is a merit source. I don't care about his own smerits.

However I don't want to bother myself on this case since he is experienced person and I am new.

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October 20, 2018, 01:27:29 PM
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I really don't see the harm done here.
Merit is supposed to stop shitposters from ranking up. "Airdropping" 30% of Full Member onto spamming Newbies just because they posted at the right moment goes against this:
While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

The 30 Merit on higher ranks makes less of a difference than it does for lower ranks.

Well, the last instructions that I was given by theymos was as follows:

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I recommend:
 - If a newbie posts something that could be even called good, then give them 1 merit. It doesn't need to be a great post.
 - It's best to use all of your source merit. If you don't naturally do so, try giving people more merit per post on average. If you don't send your source merit, then nobody gets it, but if you do send it, then the recipient can pass half of it on.
 
Thanks!

All a shit posting newbie really needs is 1 merit to be back in business. And what pisses me off is that I thought that I was following instructions; yet that very day, someone started a thread in meta complaining about my taste and implying that I was engaged in some kind of "merit abuse." I am really tempted to start adopting QAs approach since it sure beats sifting through thousands of shitposts to try and find a few posts here and there to dole out 2 merits to. This is a great deal of work and for the most part it is thankless. The only gratitude that seems to have come my way is from those shit posting newbies that I happened to merit. I'm not certain about QAs case, but I didn't even raise my hand and ask to be a merit source. I was drafted. And now I know there is a whole troop of people monitoring my every merit transaction just waiting to breath down my neck.
As long as a merit source is not going to benefit monetarily from giving a merit, It isn't merit abuse. Leave us the fuck alone!

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October 20, 2018, 01:38:19 PM
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the most part it is thankless
I disagree: I get to help improve this forum! I get spammers banned, abusers tagged, and contributers merited. That's all the reward I need.

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Who's "us" in the statement above? I'm a Merit source, I barely search for posts to merit, but do it anyway when I stumble upon anything worth meriting. I haven't seen anyone attack me on my choices of meriting users.

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October 20, 2018, 02:01:14 PM
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the most part it is thankless
I disagree: I get to help improve this forum! I get spammers banned, abusers tagged, and contributers merited. That's all the reward I need.

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As long as a merit source is not going to benefit monetarily from giving a merit, It isn't merit abuse. Leave us the fuck alone!
Who's "us" in the statement above? I'm a Merit source, I barely search for posts to merit, but do it anyway when I stumble upon anything worth meriting. I haven't seen anyone attack me on my choices of meriting users.

Well, it appears that your source merit either wasn't upped to 250 a month ago like me, or you are just letting it expire. Theymos gave me instructions to try and do my best to distribute all of it. I'm doing the best that I can; yet have already had complaints. I really despise this statistic. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendban Now I am on the list that appears to point out merit abuse suspects. I was originally very honored to become a merit source. But now I feel that my reputation is at stake with every single merit that I am obligated to distribute. I know that I only have black trust at the moment. However, I keep checking my trust rating to make sure some DT member doesn't decide to red tag me because they feel that I am being "abusive" or derelict in my duty.

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