🔥🔥🔥 What do you think about MIDAS.INVESTMENT? new BIG SCAMM project 🔥🔥🔥

[BTT_CM]

Hello! We are here to make our future. I want to share my opinion and protect many investors from losses and protect crypto industry from new scammers.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5035587.0
This is a new project that I want to talk about, and just recently I had a very good opinion about them until our project concluded a cooperation agreement with them.
The problem of manipulation on the part of exchanges has long been known and widely discussed, it is difficult for us to change this, we must start with what we can do!
Information about the project you can find on the link above, and to assess the damage they can cause to all in the future, and I will tell our history of cooperation and show their real motives.
The guys from this project came to us and offered their services, I think that this is the main source of income for them at that time.

Wick - Midas.investments 15/08/2018

Hello. Our investors are interested in your project. I want to ask whether you are interested in cooperation with Midas Investments?
https://discord.gg/kpgsxZc

StarDust [ESBC team] 15/08/2018

Hello )
Yes, we are interested in cooperation with your service

Wick - Midas.investments 15/08/2018

Great! We can add you to our service as instant-shares.  On the 21st of August we launch a large automated platform.

What are the benefits for you:
1) we make an announcement of your coin for our entire community (4200 investors).
2) we personally notify all investors about the new coin.
3) Investors can invest any amount of money in your coin (without buying a full mn collateral, which will give the opportunity to attract new people who do not want to risk the full amount of money)
4) Investors start getting rewards in your coin daily immediately after depositing coins.

Thus, on average, we run more than 10 masternodes depending on the project for the first week of instant-shares.

To do this, we need to get under our control one of your masternodes. It will be frozen on our service. If your project is not in demand and we are unable to attract new investors to your coin within two weeks, we will return you the masternode.
We are committed to long-term partnerships and our main goal is to improve our common market.

We receive income in the amount of 5% of investors ' rewards. We will also ask you to make an announcement about the partnership in your community.
Thank you for your time.
I personally like your project and hope that we could be possible to make great partnership

StarDust [ESBC team] 15/08/2018

Thank you for your offer
we have a friendly team and we must discuss your proposal all together
Do we have time for this? I do not want to offend you, but I can not make that decision without the other team members

Wick - Midas.investments 15/08/2018

No problem, I understand you! It's absolutely right way to discuss important decisions with whole team

StarDust [ESBC team] 15/08/2018

Thank you for understanding
I will contact you as soon as possible
I hope our cooperation will be useful for our team and your service

StarDust [ESBC team] 15/08/2018

Hi again )
Thank you for waiting for our reply
We discussed your proposal and it seemed very good to us)
we like cooperation with your project
We are ready to provide the necessary number of coins and other data that you want to see)

Wick - Midas.investments16/08/2018

Great! We'll download your wallet and I'll send you numbers
Also I wanted to ask: are going to list your coin on MNonline? And when if yes?

StarDust [ESBC team] 16/08/2018

Good morning )
Yes, of course we will wait for your address
We plan to be listed on the MNO.
I want to be honest with you: the specific dates of the listing depend on the success of our presale

Wick - Midas.investments16/08/2018

I don’t see any problems in using both services, there is no problem!
Here is our wallet of your coin:
EKqvWtXC3w9kozM6DBCcnEjC9wxDsQQjZY
You can send coins there
And can you give us a script to install your masternode? Or guide at list, it will be great

They launched Masternode and 10 days later sent the award to the stock exchange and sold them to our price support.
http://140.82.33.128/address/EKqvWtXC3w9kozM6DBCcnEjC9wxDsQQjZY

These guys don't help, they kill projects for their own gain.

And the next message remained unanswered

StarDust [ESBC team] 26/08/2018

Hello, I want to clarify the situation. We had an agreement that you get masternode as a Deposit and if your community is not interested in our project you will return the coins. Now about 1800 coins have been sold to our support, the same amount has recently been sent from your address. This is all our free funds to support the price. please explain why you did it?

After that, we talked to them and returned their funds for support, it was an exchange of even more of our coins, for a smaller BTC amount

Barragán [ESBC team] 08/26/2018

Hello, I'm dev ESBC
I want to clarify the situation. We had an agreement that you get masternode as a Deposit and if your community is not interested in our project you will return the coins. Now about 1800 coins have been sold to our support, the same amount has recently been sent from your address. This is all our free funds to support the price. please explain why you did it?
We have now created order for 10K sat and ask you to buy the coins back for the amount received and return all the coins at our disposal.
You are the only service to whom our coins have been sending as we know of your excellent reputation

Trevor - Midas.investments 08/26/2018

Hey
Yeah, I sold all mined coins from your masternode. Selling mined coins is the usual thing for our service on Sunday, that way we can continue to develop our platform that will be launched in couple weeks. Without selling rewards we will have to close our shared mn business.
Your masternode is still working and was not touched. I can return it to you anytime you want. There was an agreement about holding your masternode and there was no agreement on not selling coins.
I already payed my men salaries today. Let me see what I can do with it.

Barragán [ESBC team] 08/26/2018

Friend. I don't mind your earnings, I wouldn't even write to you if our business was going well.
"It will be frozen" does not imply that you will be selling coins, nothing has been said about it.
I think it's not entirely right to take the team's BTC that trusted you.

We have made a high ROI to attract investors, we have put up a support price to maintain the coin.
We did not even consider this option, as we trust you and in the conditions there was not a single mention of the sale of our coins.
If you had warned us of such a policy, we might have agreed for your offer, but we would have acted differently.

Trevor - Midas.investments08/26/2018

bought back 1800 esbc
high roi does not attract investors
anymore

Barragán [ESBC team] 08/26/2018

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding, we would like to return all our coins. EJn7Fb3LijD3oUiW8g2N7W9vbWetBuJTBg
I'm sorry that we are unable to attract your investors and not understood you correctly.

We only got 1500 of our coins, all other coins were sold.
We have been working on our project for more than 2 months and during this time our team has earned less than MIDAS for our deception.  
Confirmation of this information you can see in our https://discord.gg/TKu8PkN
I can provide screenshots of communication
Also there is a MIDAS command response, you can open a private message and make sure that it is true.
I'm sure they often deceive developers and advertise scam projects.
Such actions interfere with the development of projects and help their investors to part with BTC faster

[strongpower]

Fascinating story, I think you needed more screenshots for more weight of your words.

[BTT_CM]

Fascinating story, I think you needed more screenshots for more weight of your words.

I will publish them here, if necessary, maybe this topic is not interesting to anyone.

[kutangterbang]

I don't know much about the project that you mean but seeing the review that you have done, in my opinion it has become sufficient evidence for you that the project is not good enough, and gives consideration to everyone to be more careful and think of having time to join the project

[anobtc]

You should change your title to MIDAS.INVESTMENT, not MIDAS. Because you are influencing another legit project, Midas Protocol. A project without the information behind the team, you should not care about it.

[kumiskura]

You should change your title to MIDAS.INVESTMENT, not MIDAS. Because you are influencing another legit project, Midas Protocol. A project without the information behind the team, you should not care about it.

Calm down my friend.
you do not have to worry about such a trifling matter because he already posted a link on the thread, i believe people will look after it first before speaking.

about Midas Investment, to be honest i do not understand them very well compared to any other project. the only thing that i know is they are creating a grup focusing on trade,profit or signal and we usually called it 'pump and dump grup'. and not only that, their supporters also sent a lot of PMs to many people(me included) that used Discord server to join their server.

scam or not, i am not sure about it.
but 'pump and dump grup' is not something that we can trust.

[manochao]

You should change your title to MIDAS.INVESTMENT, not MIDAS. Because you are influencing another legit project, Midas Protocol. A project without the information behind the team, you should not care about it.

Calm down my friend.
you do not have to worry about such a trifling matter because he already posted a link on the thread, i believe people will look after it first before speaking.

about Midas Investment, to be honest i do not understand them very well compared to any other project. the only thing that i know is they are creating a grup focusing on trade,profit or signal and we usually called it 'pump and dump grup'. and not only that, their supporters also sent a lot of PMs to many people(me included) that used Discord server to join their server.

scam or not, i am not sure about it.
but 'pump and dump grup' is not something that we can trust.

Sure, but complaining side sounds equally awful - e-Sport Betting Coin 

[AlexaSonda]

I do not know and are not familiar with the project that you are saying, but I advise you to make a thread about this project on a reputation board or an scam accusations, provide evidence that you have and I am sure DT members will be ready to help you to uncover this scam.

[VK.point]

Seeing and reading the reviews that you have shared do not seem to be necessary for me to follow. I am not saying that this is fraud, but at least I will investigate further. In order not to waste time in vain ... But I thank you for working hard and discussing this project.

[manochao]

Word combination 'support wall from devs' also is not credible. Because that is a price manipulation and also looks fraud. I've done my own research and found that Midas had commented this complaint on their Discord channel. Moreover they named the town in which they live said that are ready personally to meet with anybody who doubt  

In this case it looks more like ESBC is scam trying to use dirty tricks and to make cheap PR to themselves

[BTT_CM]

Word combination 'support wall from devs' also is not credible. Because that is price manipulation and also looks fraud.

Thank you for your opinion. I described a problem that worries me, I'm against such dishonest members of the crypto community having significant power, it's bad for everyone.

The problem of manipulation on the part of exchanges has long been known and widely discussed, it is difficult for us to change this, we must start with what we can do!

I am certainly interested in promoting our project, but we will not discuss it. I will only answer once. Companies buy back their shares and this is considered mandatory in the stock market, we know the price of our project and buy back what we thought was lower price at that time.

[l10no]

my advice, try checking on some ICO websites, how many projects have been reviewed there, if only one review, it's worth considering

[manochao]

Word combination 'support wall from devs' also is not credible. Because that is price manipulation and also looks fraud.

Thank you for your opinion. I described a problem that worries me, I'm against such dishonest members of the crypto community having significant power, it's bad for everyone.

The problem of manipulation on the part of exchanges has long been known and widely discussed, it is difficult for us to change this, we must start with what we can do!

I am certainly interested in promoting our project, but we will not discuss it. I will only answer once. Companies buy back their shares and this is considered mandatory in the stock market, we know the price of our project and buy back what we thought was lower price at that time.

Frankly your ESBC looks much more suspiciously than Midas
They partnered with KYD, have a quite well known sharing service and as far as I understood they are public

On the other hand all bet coins have always proven to be a scam and your thread looks like you are making mountains out of molehills

[BTT_CM]

They partnered with KYD, have a quite well known sharing service and as far as I understood they are public

On the other hand all bet coins have always proven to be a scam and your thread looks like you are making mountains out of molehills

What's the point of hiding your faces when there are so many gullible people.
Many people have long benefited from voluntarily carry their money in banks, which they are openly cheating.
Such projects, this is the banks of the future, they will deceive all the time, the case that I described just confirms this.
If you do a little understand much about investing, you should know that investment funds and similar organizations always earn, regardless of the earnings of their clients.

[aalavandan]

Thank you very much for sharing this. I hope that one day this crap will stop, and people will finally stop creating scam projects. Be aware of such projects and be respectful for people, that are warning us.

[manochao]

They partnered with KYD, have a quite well known sharing service and as far as I understood they are public

On the other hand all bet coins have always proven to be a scam and your thread looks like you are making mountains out of molehills

What's the point of hiding your faces when there are so many gullible people.
Many people have long benefited from voluntarily carry their money in banks, which they are openly cheating.
Such projects, this is the banks of the future, they will deceive all the time, the case that I described just confirms this.
If you do a little understand much about investing, you should know that investment funds and similar organizations always earn, regardless of the earnings of their clients.

Are you kidding? Have you ever read your $100 worth site? Where are your team faces?

Why did you specify Cryptobridge while you were selling nodes but been listed on Graviex then? Ohh I see you also sheduled Cryptopia for September 31   Check your own roadmap

This is exactly you who are hiding mate   Harm set harm get just a friendly advice  

[BTT_CM]

They partnered with KYD, have a quite well known sharing service and as far as I understood they are public

On the other hand all bet coins have always proven to be a scam and your thread looks like you are making mountains out of molehills

What's the point of hiding your faces when there are so many gullible people.
Many people have long benefited from voluntarily carry their money in banks, which they are openly cheating.
Such projects, this is the banks of the future, they will deceive all the time, the case that I described just confirms this.
If you do a little understand much about investing, you should know that investment funds and similar organizations always earn, regardless of the earnings of their clients.

Are you kidding? Have you ever read your $100 worth site? Where are your team faces?

Why did you specify Cryptobridge while you were selling nodes but been listed on Graviex then? Ohh I see you also sheduled Cryptopia for September 31  Check your own roadmap

This is exactly you who are hiding mate 

If you want advertise my project, can to communicate in my topic, I answer on all your questions)
You have no idea how hard it is to play fair when we do deals with such services (MIDAS.INVESTMENT)
As I said above, they have earned more on our project than we have in 4 months of work.

[manochao]

They partnered with KYD, have a quite well known sharing service and as far as I understood they are public

On the other hand all bet coins have always proven to be a scam and your thread looks like you are making mountains out of molehills

What's the point of hiding your faces when there are so many gullible people.
Many people have long benefited from voluntarily carry their money in banks, which they are openly cheating.
Such projects, this is the banks of the future, they will deceive all the time, the case that I described just confirms this.
If you do a little understand much about investing, you should know that investment funds and similar organizations always earn, regardless of the earnings of their clients.

Are you kidding? Have you ever read your $100 worth site? Where are your team faces?

Why did you specify Cryptobridge while you were selling nodes but been listed on Graviex then? Ohh I see you also sheduled Cryptopia for September 31   Check your own roadmap

This is exactly you who are hiding mate  

If you want advertise my project, can to communicate in my topic, I answer on all your questions)

I had no doubt you wouldn't be able to say anything intelligible except that  

Yeah yeah you were working hard but all your investors got losses cause your node worth now is $23

Don't you find it absurd that it was you who created this thread and texted the word 'scam'? 

[BTT_CM]

They partnered with KYD, have a quite well known sharing service and as far as I understood they are public

On the other hand all bet coins have always proven to be a scam and your thread looks like you are making mountains out of molehills

What's the point of hiding your faces when there are so many gullible people.
Many people have long benefited from voluntarily carry their money in banks, which they are openly cheating.
Such projects, this is the banks of the future, they will deceive all the time, the case that I described just confirms this.
If you do a little understand much about investing, you should know that investment funds and similar organizations always earn, regardless of the earnings of their clients.

Are you kidding? Have you ever read your $100 worth site? Where are your team faces?

Why did you specify Cryptobridge while you were selling nodes but been listed on Graviex then? Ohh I see you also sheduled Cryptopia for September 31   Check your own roadmap

This is exactly you who are hiding mate  

If you want advertise my project, can to communicate in my topic, I answer on all your questions)

I had no doubt you wouldn't be able to say anything intelligible except that  

Yeah yeah you were working hard but all your investors got losses cause your node worth now is $23

Don't you find it absurd that it was you who created this thread and texted the word 'scam'? 

Where did you get the information that our investors suffered losses? have you seen at least one disgruntled investor?
We continue to work without paying attention to the failed presale and lack of funding.
And you see right here user deceived by the collaboration with MIDAS.INVESTMENT.
I am grateful to you for promoting this topic and our project.
I will be even more grateful if you write from your real account.

[manochao]

They partnered with KYD, have a quite well known sharing service and as far as I understood they are public

On the other hand all bet coins have always proven to be a scam and your thread looks like you are making mountains out of molehills

What's the point of hiding your faces when there are so many gullible people.
Many people have long benefited from voluntarily carry their money in banks, which they are openly cheating.
Such projects, this is the banks of the future, they will deceive all the time, the case that I described just confirms this.
If you do a little understand much about investing, you should know that investment funds and similar organizations always earn, regardless of the earnings of their clients.

Are you kidding? Have you ever read your $100 worth site? Where are your team faces?

Why did you specify Cryptobridge while you were selling nodes but been listed on Graviex then? Ohh I see you also sheduled Cryptopia for September 31   Check your own roadmap

This is exactly you who are hiding mate  

If you want advertise my project, can to communicate in my topic, I answer on all your questions)

I had no doubt you wouldn't be able to say anything intelligible except that  

Yeah yeah you were working hard but all your investors got losses cause your node worth now is $23

Don't you find it absurd that it was you who created this thread and texted the word 'scam'?  

Where did you get the information that our investors suffered losses? have you seen at least one disgruntled investor?
We continue to work without paying attention to the failed presale and lack of funding.
And you see right here user deceived by the collaboration with MIDAS.INVESTMENT.
I am grateful to you for promoting this topic and our project.
I will be even more grateful if you write from your real account.

Its very hard to imagine the happy faces of investors having $20 worth nodes after they got cheated with your CB listing promises
So I don't insist that was just my guess
Thanks for your appreciation always glad to help
This is my first and only account but the irony is that it's still funny to read such a question from you newbie dev  
Happy to help again