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Piggy
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October 25, 2018, 06:24:38 AM |
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I was trying to point out this methodology (as well) as an easy way to spot these kind of abuses few months back, as these patterns are clearly visible (as an isolated graph usually), but quite hard to find if you just look at the transactions alone. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4596798
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DdmrDdmr
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There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
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October 25, 2018, 07:43:00 AM |
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I wasn’t really sure if the Merit Network charting tools was being used at all (I have no access to any sort of information related to views or usage), and was even considering discontinuing it. Now I see I need to keep it running. Glad to see it being used in a useful way, beyond the personal glimpse of what one’s own merit network looks like. Shame google has not been working on the underlying software for some time; it’s a good software, that could have evolved quite a bit by now in terms of usability and functionality. Note: I wonder if this tool is considered stat related …
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nngella
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October 25, 2018, 08:45:07 AM |
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May I know the tool/software that you used to make this diagram? I am just exploring gephi but I do not know to input data on the lines connecting the two circles. (I am researching for youtube tutorials as of the moment).
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Alex_Sr (OP)
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October 25, 2018, 08:52:10 AM |
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May I know the tool/software that you used to make this diagram? I am just exploring gephi but I do not know to input data on the lines connecting the two circles. (I am researching for youtube tutorials as of the moment).
Link: User Merit Network
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DdmrDdmr
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October 25, 2018, 09:00:23 AM |
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The charts are created using a product created by google called Google Fusion Tables (see https://support.google.com/fusiontables/answer/2571232?hl=en). It’s an experimental product which is rather much abandoned I think (but still working, up and running), that forms part of Google’s initiative to create AI tools (see https://ai.google). Fusion Tables is much simpler than Gephi, and you do not need to feed coordinates or node sizes to this tool. On the other hand, it is not being updated and has many limitations which you soon encounter (and a few bugs too).
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Ak_sakal
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October 25, 2018, 01:15:13 PM |
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An effective measure against such farms will be painting the trust not only to sellers, but also to buyers of merit.
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DIKUL
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October 25, 2018, 02:55:56 PM |
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There are hundreds, if not thousands of such accounts. Painting all these accounts is a very time-consuming process. Perhaps there is another way?
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Alex_Sr (OP)
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October 25, 2018, 06:45:16 PM |
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There are hundreds, if not thousands of such accounts. Painting all these accounts is a very time-consuming process. Perhaps there is another way?
There is an option to send a report on all post of these accounts in p.1: Forum rules 1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]
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navigatorus
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October 25, 2018, 09:24:30 PM |
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Very interesting scheme.Why not just make the crooks to earn money.Greed makes crooks to invent new and new more sophisticated ways.They say that advertising is the engine of progress, but I do not think so.Greed is the engine of progress.I want to thank the author for his work.I hope the fight against this kind of scams will continue in spite of everything.
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#davidnugroho
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October 26, 2018, 08:24:39 PM |
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Very interesting scheme.Why not just make the crooks to earn money.Greed makes crooks to invent new and new more sophisticated ways.They say that advertising is the engine of progress, but I do not think so.Greed is the engine of progress.I want to thank the author for his work.I hope the fight against this kind of scams will continue in spite of everything.
the struggle requires hard work to prove that we are really not just players who are not good and motivate to new things so I want to keep on being excited.
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MO-COIN
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October 27, 2018, 05:22:34 PM |
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Very interesting scheme.Why not just make the crooks to earn money.Greed makes crooks to invent new and new more sophisticated ways.They say that advertising is the engine of progress, but I do not think so.Greed is the engine of progress.I want to thank the author for his work.I hope the fight against this kind of scams will continue in spite of everything.
I wonder how much time spent @OP to find these connections?
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hotforblockchain
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October 28, 2018, 04:54:21 PM |
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I was trying to point out this methodology (as well) as an easy way to spot these kind of abuses few months back, as these patterns are clearly visible (as an isolated graph usually), but quite hard to find if you just look at the transactions alone. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4596798And there I was few months back doing the same thing with clusters and no-one did bat an eye : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4945206.msg44566240#msg44566240At the time i was looking at txs which are much higher than 1 merit since they have much higher possibility of being abuse. Since there was very little interest , I did not continue to look at particular cases. I was thinking to make these clusters publicly visible as well in web-mode, but as far a i got, there unfortunately is not an option to make the IDs or user names or even txs clickable ( with links)
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Alex_Sr (OP)
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October 30, 2018, 06:04:33 AM |
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Very interesting scheme.Why not just make the crooks to earn money.Greed makes crooks to invent new and new more sophisticated ways.They say that advertising is the engine of progress, but I do not think so.Greed is the engine of progress.I want to thank the author for his work.I hope the fight against this kind of scams will continue in spite of everything.
Greed and impunity! I wonder how much time spent @OP to find these connections?
It wasn't very difficult. Farmers do not hesitate and do not hide their actions!
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MO-COIN
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November 27, 2018, 05:55:41 PM |
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These 2 accounts have already started participating in the signature company: ultofrestoamorfuseOne-line posts only...
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Alex_Sr (OP)
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December 20, 2018, 04:48:31 PM |
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These 2 accounts have already started participating in the signature company: ultofrestoamorfuseOne-line posts only... Yes, that's right! Try to write to the managers of these bounty companies. Maybe they will exclude cheaters!
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ultofresto
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January 15, 2019, 11:56:39 PM |
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These 2 accounts have already started participating in the signature company: ultofrestoamorfuseOne-line posts only... Yes, that's right! Try to write to the managers of these bounty companies. Maybe they will exclude cheaters! Perhaps they will rule out scammers!
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Ispep
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January 16, 2019, 12:30:18 AM |
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the struggle requires hard work to prove that we are really not just players who are not good and motivate to new things so I want to keep on being excited.
The only way to do so is to contribute to the community's/forums progress by using ones skill to better the forum. The forum has achieved great things in the bitcoin world and is shooting far beyond the moon This merit network chat by Ddmr is really turning out to be a great help to the forum in numerous areas,including catching cheaters
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