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I normally write up my Scam Accusations better than this, but I want to get it out there and the link below pretty much summarizes my research so far. My interest in NELUNS was triggered by their [ANN] thread, an echo chamber of paid for posts. The scammers managed to create a superficially convincing micro environment of NELUN's existence, but the closer I looked the more brittle it became. I think the expression on their "Marketing Manager"s face says it all, but I'll repeat it anyway NELUNS is a scam Here's the link (Russian), I agree with the research and the conclusion; https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/
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One part of the jigsaw is missing at the moment: if anyone sent any of their BTC to buy these tokens, I'd be grateful of NELUNS' Bitcoin address. Tia.
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November 05, 2018, 10:14:43 PM Last edit: November 05, 2018, 11:33:01 PM by MagicSmoker |
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The Neluns moderator milonite did, indeed, delete one of my posts! EDIT - make that lots of my posts! re: I see that the NELUNS [ANN] thread OP milonite logged in today for the first time in a couple of weeks, answering briefly on another of his bounty threads, for MINDOL the [ANN] of which has also received the Pong Bot treatment. It will be interesting to see whether a) He indulges in mass self mod deleting b) The Pongs continue to stink the place out
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It's quite pleasant for me that someone else is doing the legwork on a scam for a change: from https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/page-2 confirming that NELUNS and their "$1.5m investors", The Manhattan (Blockchain) Fund are run by the same scammers, using the same IP address. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fttrcoin.com%2Fattachments%2Fnelunsbank-jpg.6215%2F&t=665&c=TpRJIwPBVAO6nw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fttrcoin.com%2Fattachments%2Fthemanhattanfund-jpg.6216%2F&t=665&c=nEF5aPZYW7-DoA)
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November 06, 2018, 06:02:34 PM Last edit: November 06, 2018, 06:13:44 PM by Highquality |
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It's quite pleasant for me that someone else is doing the legwork on a scam for a change: from https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/page-2 confirming that NELUNS and their "$1.5m investors", The Manhattan (Blockchain) Fund are run by the same scammers, using the same IP address. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fttrcoin.com%2Fattachments%2Fnelunsbank-jpg.6215%2F&t=665&c=TpRJIwPBVAO6nw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fttrcoin.com%2Fattachments%2Fthemanhattanfund-jpg.6216%2F&t=665&c=nEF5aPZYW7-DoA) Yes, it's right. I made a translation of the description of this text from the site so that everyone would understand what was meant: "Another fact that deserves close attention to the Neluns ICO. These are their sites neluns.io, nelunsbank.com and themanhattanfund.com As we already know, all sites belong to the organizers of Neluns ICO. It is easy to check if you know where to look at this information. Let's start from the site nelunsbank.com which was presented by the Neluns ICO organizers as the main site where the banking services of the Neluns company will be presented. How do you see the site nelunsbank.com and its IP address 144.217.252.90 And we see the site themanhattanfund.com and its IP address 144.217.252.90 Wow! These sites are on the same server, they have the same IP address 144.217.252.90 Also, we see that this is one hosting provider, and both sites have one control and administration panel: pl1-bhs6.hostingpanel1.com All this tells us that nelunsbank .com and themanhattanfund.com are under the control of one group of individuals." And we were told that nelunsbank.com (Neluns) and themanhattanfund.com (The Manhattan Blockchain Fund) are different companies ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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November 06, 2018, 06:59:47 PM |
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Anyway, apparently this is all Russian FUD, according to Milonite on the bot thread, because Everything about this comments is fiction, theories and lie. Spoken like a True American. The Neluns team isn’t surprised that most of negative comments about the Neluns project are from Russian haters because they weren’t allowed to buy NLS tokens. чyшь coбaчья ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 06, 2018, 07:46:36 PM Last edit: November 06, 2018, 07:59:52 PM by morvillz7z |
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It's interesting to note that the previous bounty managed by milonite is Lancer Network - some not looking good Russian based whatever they are type of project. Actually, I think Russians are behind Neluns scam. You see, they blame all negative comments on Russia (so you wouldn't make a connection), but the grammar and if you look at team members closely, they don't seem to be Americans. Does this woman look like a Madeline Williams or some mid 40 Russian/Ukrainian auntie? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2FgQoWHq%2Fauntie.jpg&t=665&c=2aOTVvn7AGSupw) The more I look at Nick Thielman and Leslie Haynes the more I think they have that Slavic facial expression and characteristics.
Another way to spell campaigns? Bounty pains ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2Fhno1iV%2Flancer.jpg&t=665&c=70WpW9jhNrhHdg)
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November 06, 2018, 07:57:27 PM Last edit: November 11, 2018, 09:48:12 PM by morvillz7z |
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@Invest123one You are supposed to FUD the project, not support it. Hello!!! ![](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/evil.gif) edit: My russian sucks then, apologies lol Oh wait, so this guy - Invest123one turns out to be Neluns sockpuppet account and gets nuked for shilling. I didn't see that coming, knew something was fishy with his replies, but I couldn't figure what exactly.
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November 06, 2018, 08:02:19 PM |
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Anyway, apparently this is all Russian FUD, according to Milonite on the bot thread, because Everything about this comments is fiction, theories and lie. Spoken like a True American. The Neluns team isn’t surprised that most of negative comments about the Neluns project are from Russian haters because they weren’t allowed to buy NLS tokens. чyшь coбaчья ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) snip < Russian language complaint about it's our fault this bounty hunter ain't getting paid > snip Ya fucking moron, you honestly think they were ever going to pay you? Pay $12 million in bounties? Rilly??? The whole thing was a crappily put together failure from the start, and if you wasted your time shilling for it then that's your problem. циpк yexaл, клoyны ocтaлиcь
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Please post about such threads in the meta board. There are specific threads under which users and their behaviors can be reported also. Honestly, the forum should be doing better at addressing flooding and/or automated posting. Banning the account is only a temp solution, but if new accounts can bump threads all over again then the geniuses marketing those coins will just continue.
Mods need to ban their threads with firm warnings.
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I will say it again. I make myself and my family a piece of bread that participate in the bounty And I'll say it again "THEY WERE NEVER GOING TO PAY YOU ANYWAY"
Please post about such threads in the meta board.
There's an ongoing thread there already about this bot spam conversation problem. Ironically, the evidence contained in the Scam Accusation against NELUNS really only came to (my) attention because of the spam. So counter productive in this case.
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November 06, 2018, 08:23:51 PM Last edit: November 13, 2018, 10:00:25 PM by morvillz7z |
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I usually trust any two photos that have more than 96% match...hmm don't know about this one. I guess I have to find more images to be absolutely sure. edit: Unfortunately I couldn't find any other images of this woman to have a better comparison, so I guess we have to trust Amazon AWS. That upper right part of the lips looks 100% identical. (click image for higher res) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2Fiq3G8V%2Fimage2.jpg&t=665&c=sHJamQ6CzI91xw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2FfPBqAA%2Fauntie1.jpg&t=665&c=0n9kykLWKGmGjA) ht tps://anaem.ru/photos/317000/316932/ajhikjot_av.jpg
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November 06, 2018, 08:27:54 PM |
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Please post about such threads in the meta board. There are specific threads under which users and their behaviors can be reported also. Honestly, the forum should be doing better at addressing flooding and/or automated posting. Banning the account is only a temp solution, but if new accounts can bump threads all over again then the geniuses marketing those coins will just continue.
Mods need to ban their threads with firm warnings.
I agree, and I started the thread that tmfp linked to already, but I have had no luck getting any of the global mods (maybe just mprep?) to actually lock any of the 4-5 threads that are using the same thread bumping service and (likely stolen) accounts that are all newbies but registered anywhere from 2011 to 2014 (ie - before the epic hack of this forum occurred). Perhaps if a few other high ranking members also report the OP with a recommendation that he be banned and the thread locked the global mods will take the requests more seriously? Here's the OP of the Neluns thread ready to be reported: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4694028.msg42366589#msg42366589EDIT - FWIW, I put something like this in my report: "Rampant plagiarism in a self-moderated thread and incentivizing posting via a thread bumping service; please ban OP and lock thread" EDIT 2 - @morvillz7z, I think those two are, indeed, the same person; the second pic is without makeup and a different hair color, is all.
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I usually trust any match that is over 96%...hmm don't know about this one. Need to dig more images. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2FfPBqAA%2Fauntie1.jpg&t=665&c=0n9kykLWKGmGjA) ht tps://anaem.ru/photos/317000/316932/ajhikjot_av.jpg pretty woman, you think that she wrote this article? https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/
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November 06, 2018, 09:15:12 PM Last edit: November 08, 2018, 12:47:12 PM by Highquality |
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@Invest123one You are supposed to FUD the project, not support it. Hello!!! ![](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/evil.gif) edit: My russian sucks then, apologies lol These Russians are already everywhere, they intervened in the American elections, they made Brexit in United Kingdom, soon they will sell hamburgers for rubles in New York. With this need to do something, the Russians captured the entire Internet. Even this article it is written in Russian: https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/page-2
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November 06, 2018, 09:20:40 PM |
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These Russians are already everywhere, they intervened in the American elections, they made Brexit in United Kingdom, soon they will sell hamburgers for rubles in New York. With this need to do something, the Russians captured the entire Internet. Even this article it is written in Russian https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/page-2I hear that some have even developed a sense of humor.....😶 What is the significance of "hamsters"?
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These Russians are already everywhere, they intervened in the American elections, they made Brexit in United Kingdom, soon they will sell hamburgers for rubles in New York. With this need to do something, the Russians captured the entire Internet. Even this article it is written in Russian https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/page-2I hear that some have even developed a sense of humor.....😶 What is the significance of "hamsters"? "hamsters"? I do not know what it is, but I liked your Russian quotes: "чyшь coбaчья" and "циpк yexaл, клoyны ocтaлиcь"
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I usually trust any match that is over 96%...hmm don't know about this one. Need to dig more images. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2FfPBqAA%2Fauntie1.jpg&t=665&c=0n9kykLWKGmGjA) ht tps://anaem.ru/photos/317000/316932/ajhikjot_av.jpg The slopping of the lower lips and shape of the eyes are such uncanny match. Think we're starting to get somewhere. Also, anybody's who has the time should go read some of Lee White's (one of their TG admin) posts and see if such a true-blooded English name could be capable of murdering their mother tongue... unless mother tongue is Mother Russia
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Cтpaннo чтo MagicSmoker нe зaмeтил чтo тoпикcтapтep и тe ктo пepeпocтят eгo пocты тo жe бoты, pyкoвoдимыe oдним и тeм жe лицoм-Tmfp. To ecть tmfp вeдeт caм c coбoй диaлoг пoд нocoм y тex ктo oбвиняeт Neluns и дpyгиe пpoeкты в тoм чтo в иx вeткax пишyт бoты. Pжyнимaгy. Tmfp зaчeт ты paзвeл eщe и этиx aнглoязычныx дeбилoв)))
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