REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations

[TwitchySeal]

"Appeals Court Erases Order to End Michael Flynn Case, Sets New Arguments"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/us/politics/michael-flynn-appeals-court.html

Memeber the day when you cheered open sedition with total disregard for the rule of law and terrorists murdering people in the streets? I member.

No, I don't remember ever cheering open sedition with total disregard for the rule of law and terrorists murdering people in the streets.  Don't even know what you're talking about, is it Charlottesville?  You know the guy that killed that girl was not a liberal right?

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[Spendulus]

"Appeals Court Erases Order to End Michael Flynn Case, Sets New Arguments"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/us/politics/michael-flynn-appeals-court.html

Memeber the day when you cheered open sedition with total disregard for the rule of law and terrorists murdering people in the streets? I member.

No, I don't remember ever cheering open sedition with total disregard for the rule of law and terrorists murdering people in the streets.  Don't even know what you're talking about, is it Charlottesville?  You know the guy that killed that girl was not a liberal right?

Must be different types of liberals out there. Because what happened in liberal city of Austin, Texas when the bus loads of terrorists arrived sure is different than what happened in Portland.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/bryan-preston/2020/08/02/austin-police-texas-state-troopers-prevent-violence-and-arrest-many-n741346

It was easy for the Austin police to stop the provocateurs!

Why and how, the politicians in the cities with riots were in on it.

[TwitchySeal]

"I am frankly appalled by the president's recent tweet seeking to postpone the November election. Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats' assertion that President Trump is a fascist. But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president's immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate,"

Steven G. Calabresi
(co-founder of the Federalist Society)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/opinion/trump-delay-election-coronavirus.html

Geez more conservatives turning on Trump, poor guy.

[Spendulus]

"I am frankly appalled by the president's recent tweet seeking to postpone the November election. Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats' assertion that President Trump is a fascist. But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president's immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate,"

Steven G. Calabresi
(co-founder of the Federalist Society)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/opinion/trump-delay-election-coronavirus.html

Geez more conservatives turning on Trump, poor guy.

I think you (and others) are being played. Last I heard he had made another comment about moving the election FORWARD.

[TwitchySeal]

"In a loss for Trump, judge says woman who accused him of rape can proceed with defamation suit"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/jean-carroll-trump-lawsuit/2020/08/06/ef4b10f2-d82f-11ea-aff6-220dd3a14741_story.html

[TwitchySeal]

"G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia"
A nearly 1,000-page report confirmed the special counsel’s findings at a moment when President Trump’s allies have sought to undermine that inquiry.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html

Here's the report: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf



If you still think the Russia investigation was a hoax, now would be a good time to push your head a little further into the mud.

[PrimeNumber7]

They found no evidence that the Trump Campaign collided or conspired with the Russian government.

There are many foreign governments that try to interfere with our elections, just as the US government interferes with other foreign elections. Remember when Obama said the UK would “go to the back of the queue” for trade deals if they voted for Brexit? Unless you are investigating *all* instances of election interference, you are cherry-picking facts to produce propaganda.

No, Russia didn’t get Trump elected with $100k worth of Facebook ads that were mostly shown after the election. Multiple billions of dollars were spent on advertising in the 2016 election cycle.

[TwitchySeal]

They found no evidence that the Trump Campaign collided or conspired with the Russian government.

Despite Trump repeating that over and over again, it's just not true. They did.  What they (Mueller) didn't find was enough evidence that Trump himself was involved or aware of what was going on to charge him with a crime.  It seems highly likely that he was though.

You should really just read the Mueller report for yourself.  It's very complicated, which is why I think Trump has been able to be so effective and convincing people to just take his word and not bother reading it themselves,  but I'll walk you through part of it:

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
(the table of contents is clickable)

Read the section on Paul Manafort. (p. 129-145 of the report)  You gotta read the whole section.

Note the date of his second meeting with Kilimnik in NYC

Google Trumps statements on Crimea from just before that meeting. (They're also in the report somewhere)

Read Trumps written response to question IV. It's from an appendix, page 436 of the pdf.

Keep in mind Mueller report referred to Kilimnik as someone 'with ties to Russia' and todays Republican lead Senate Intel report confirms he is a Russian intelligence officer.

[PrimeNumber7]

They found no evidence that the Trump Campaign collided or conspired with the Russian government.

Despite Trump repeating that over and over again, it's just not true. They did.  What they (Mueller) didn't find was enough evidence that Trump himself was involved or aware of what was going on to charge him with a crime.  It seems highly likely that he was though.

Andrew Weissman, who was likely the one actually running the investigation, was very aggressive in pursuing prosecutions. Further the Mueller report was full of innuendo.

I can assure you that if there was evidence of collusion, Trump would have been promptly impeached for it. Instead the Democrats waited until someone from intelligence agencies were willing to work with Democrats to impeach Trump over a perfect phone call.

[TwitchySeal]

They found no evidence that the Trump Campaign collided or conspired with the Russian government.

Despite Trump repeating that over and over again, it's just not true. They did.  What they (Mueller) didn't find was enough evidence that Trump himself was involved or aware of what was going on to charge him with a crime.  It seems highly likely that he was though.

Andrew Weissman, who was likely the one actually running the investigation, was very aggressive in pursuing prosecutions. Further the Mueller report was full of innuendo.

I can assure you that if there was evidence of collusion, Trump would have been promptly impeached for it. Instead the Democrats waited until someone from intelligence agencies were willing to work with Democrats to impeach Trump over a perfect phone call.

Let me know if you decide to read it.

[PrimeNumber7]

“We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then Candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election”
-Senator Marco Rubio, Chairmen, Senate Intelligence Committee 

[TwitchySeal]

“We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then Candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election”
-Senator Marco Rubio, Chairmen, Senate Intelligence Committee  

I could post what the ranking Democrat said about the report, but we can just read for ourselves what the report says.  

They found that the chairman of the Trump campaign was secretly sharing sensitive internal campaign data with a Russian intelligence officer.

They also found that the chairman of the Trump campaign frequently discussed a 'peace plan' that would benefit Russia greatly in the Ukraine/Russia disagreement.

They also found that the Russian Intelligence officer that Trumps campaign chairman was secretly sharing sensitive campaign data with was likely directly involved in the hacking of the DNC and leaking of emails right before the election.

There is tons more...


All of these things happened.  Saying 'no collusion' over and over again is a distraction attempt.

[Spendulus]

“We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then Candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election”
-Senator Marco Rubio, Chairmen, Senate Intelligence Committee  

I could post what the ranking Democrat said about the report, but we can just read for ourselves what the report says.  ....

I seem to recall stating in 2016 that Sanders would not be allowed to become the Democratic candidate, but you knew better.

I seem to recall stating in 2019 that Sanders would not be allowed to become the Democratic candidate, but you knew better.

The reality you want may not be the reality you have gotten.

Why not get on a team of winners, instead of losers?

[PrimeNumber7]

They also found that the chairman of the Trump campaign frequently discussed a 'peace plan' that would benefit Russia greatly in the Ukraine/Russia disagreement.

Oh, wow. Trump was trying to end a war and achieve peace? He should be immediately impeached and tried for treason.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it looks like Trump might be colluding with Israel and the UAE based on your standards, via the peace agreement that Trump brokered.

I hope you can acknowledge that all of what you are saying is innuendo. In fact, it is normal for Presidential campaigns to discuss foreign policy with various foreign governments.

What is not normal is for a presidential campaign to pay for foreign disinformation, nor is it normal for a presidential campaign to spy on its rival campaign.

[TwitchySeal]

They also found that the chairman of the Trump campaign frequently discussed a 'peace plan' that would benefit Russia greatly in the Ukraine/Russia disagreement.

Oh, wow. Trump was trying to end a war and achieve peace? He should be immediately impeached and tried for treason.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it looks like Trump might be colluding with Israel and the UAE based on your standards, via the peace agreement that Trump brokered.

This is a good example of why you should read the Mueller report yourself rather than relying on media reports and sound bytes from politicians.

While the words 'peace plan' were used, what they were really discussing was allowing Russia (our adversary) to take over Eastern Ukraine (our ally).

Manafort also twice met Kilimnik in the United States during the campaign period and
conveyed campaign information. The second meeting took place on August 2, 2016, in New York
City. Kilimnik requested the meeting to deliver in person a message from former Ukrainian
President Viktor Yanukovych, who was then living in Russia. The message was about a peace
plan for Ukraine that Manafort has since acknowledged was a “backdoor” means for Russia to
control eastern Ukraine. Several months later, after the presidential election, Kilimnik wrote an
email to Manafort expressing the view—which Manafort later said he shared—that the plan’s
success would require U.S. support to succeed: “all that is required to start the process is a very
minor ‘wink’ (or slight push) from [Donald Trump].”

Page 130: https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

I hope you can acknowledge that all of what you are saying is innuendo. In fact, it is normal for Presidential campaigns to discuss foreign policy with various foreign governments.

What is not normal is for a presidential campaign to pay for foreign disinformation, nor is it normal for a presidential campaign to spy on its rival campaign.

It's not innuendo. What I'm saying is in both the Mueller report and the Senate Intelligence report that came out today.  You can read it for yourself: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

Manafort hired and worked increasingly closely with a Russian national, Konstantin
Kilimnik. Kilimnik is a Russian intelligence officer.

Prior to joining the Trump Campaign in March 2016 and continuing throughout his
time 6n the Campaign, Manafort directly and indirectly communicated with Kilimnik, Deripaska,
and the pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine. On numerous occasions, Manafort sought to secretly
share internal Campaign information with Kilimnik.

The Committee found that Manafort's presence on the Campaign at;td proximity to
Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and
acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. Taken as a whole, Manafort's highlevel access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the
Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associates of Oleg Deripaska,
represented a grave counterintelligence threat.

This is all from the Senate Report, chaired by Marco Rubio.

I did unintentionally misrepresent one thing though - I claimed the report said Kilimnik 'likely' was involved with the DNC hack and leak, the report actually says 'The Committee obtained some information suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected to the GRU's hack and leak operation targeting the 2016 U.S. election.'  My bad.


It's tedious having to go back over what I've already read to explain it, will you please just read it for yourself before making any more claims about what it contains?  You don't have to read the whole thing, but at the very least check out what I laid out for you in this post.  There's really no other way to objectively understand what's in the report.

[dupeddonk]

starting to see a pattern here with people that didnt bother to read the mueller report claiming whole thing is a hoax

theres also the ig report from trumps hand picked ig that found obama administration did not do anything wrong. im guessing they didnt bother reading that either and just believe what they are told to believe instead.

[Spendulus]

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I did unintentionally misrepresent one thing though - I claimed the report said Kilimnik 'likely' was involved with the DNC hack and leak, the report actually says 'The Committee obtained some information suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected to the GRU's hack and leak operation targeting the 2016 U.S. election.'  My bad.
...

The "may" is not "was". The result of the bolded section would be "no evidence that Kilimnik was connected...".

Reading too much into something, and converting "may" into a certainty, isn't real.

[TwitchySeal]

Steve Bannon got arrested today for scamming people that thought they were donating money to the border wall.

That will be a fun investigation to read about.


Imagine if 4 years ago someone told you Flynn, Manafort, Cohen would all be convicted felons with Bannon on his way to join them.

[Gyfts]

Steve Bannon got arrested today for scamming people that thought they were donating money to the border wall.

That will be a fun investigation to read about.

Apparently he spent weeks out in the middle of the ocean then was arrested when he arrived on the coast. Fuck him, honestly. Dude's always been a grifter.

[TwitchySeal]

Steve Bannon got arrested today for scamming people that thought they were donating money to the border wall.

That will be a fun investigation to read about.

Apparently he spent weeks out in the middle of the ocean then was arrested when he arrived on the coast. Fuck him, honestly. Dude's always been a grifter.

I'm kind of surprised he got caught, always thought of him as super intelligent.  Guess he covers his crime as sloppy as he looks.