never mind its obvisouly impossible to buy legit paypal with btc

[cablepair]

bye

[imsaguy]

Beware this user.  Wants you to send to a PP account that is unregistered.  I made that mistake and then he complains that he never got it (even though I have an email confirmation and transaction id that says otherwise).  I call him out on it and he calls me a scammer.  He then wants me to use a different paypal address.  I offered to use an escrow at this point, to protect us both.  He then decided to cancel the deal instead.


PS Cablepair:  The one negative rating in my bitcoin-otc profile isn't transaction related, it was a retaliatory rating from a user because he's an asshat.  Nevermind the 50+ unique positive ratings.

[Amanda]

I contacted him in PMs as well but decided to cancel the deal because I didn't trust it. Please be careful.

[cablepair]

these people are both scammers

go get a life please I am too busy for this.

[imsaguy]

these people are both scammers

go get a life please I am too busy for this.

Offering to use an escrow isn't a scam.  I'll post the full set of emails in here.  I have transaction id's to prove my side.  How about you?

[cablepair]

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=imsaguy

all these transactions are obviously fake - you got caught abusing the rating system thats why you got the -10



Amanda, you are just trying to save face, you know damn well you dont want to send paypal as gift because that way you cant charge me back.



these guys are pathetic

think about this

I have been building my reputation for the last 7 months, I am a hero member with a good reputation. I run businesses that are traded on GLBSE - but I am going to throw it all away for $50 right?

does that make sense? of course it does not.

now go away.


I don't have to prove anything to anyone, the deal never happened now I say it again go crawl back under whatever rock you came from

[imsaguy]

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=imsaguy

all these transactions are obviously fake - you got caught abusing the rating system thats why you got the -10



Amanda, you are just trying to save face, you know damn well you dont want to send paypal as gift because that way you cant charge me back.



these guys are pathetic

think about this

I have been building my reputation for the last 7 months, I am a hero member with a good reputation. I run businesses that are traded on GLBSE - but I am going to throw it all away for $50 right?

does that make sense? of course it does not.

now go away.

A 'hero member' means nothing other than you have many postings on the forums.  It proves nothing as to trustworthiness.

Its funny how you cling to that one -10 rating from a user.  Have you looked at that user's ratings?  They are a fraction of mine.  If you would take a minute out of your oh so busy day to join the #bitcoin-otc irc channel, you can speak with any person in that channel to verify that my ratings are indeed legit.  In fact, they'll tell you I'm much more legit than the user that gave me my negative rating.

Explain to me how using an escrow is a scam.

[Amanda]

cablepair, you didn't like me any ratings or previous transactions, so how did you ever expect me to know? Instead of linking them you call me a scammer.. Yeah that'll work.

[cablepair]

im sorry - I don't mean to call you a scammer - I really have no proof of that and I apologize


you were just in the unfortunate position of being the next person I tried to deal with after imsaguy

If you never intended to scam that I apologize. I will also post this in your other thread.

here is my latest transaction for all to see, I sold over $600 worth of GPU's to one person, he paid me up front in Bitcoins - you can ask him if I am legit or not (amazinggrando)

and to imsaguy - If you are not a scammer I apologize but anyone that looks at your feedback would think the same thing

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=imsaguy

[imsaguy]

The full set of emails:

Code:

Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:24:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Btc
From: cablepair
To: imsaguy


umm excuse me, check this please:

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=imsaguy

you got a -10 for abusing the rating system

whatever man, deal is off 

bye

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:19 AM, imsaguy wrote:
Actually, my otc rating has no negative stuff in it.  You call me a scammer and accuse me of lying when you're the one trying to use unverified/unregistered paypal accounts.  If anything, you're the one that seems suspect.

At this point, I will complete the deal, but only with an escrow. 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Btc
From: cablepair
Date: Wed, November 02, 2011 8:15 am
To: imsaguy

ok dont mean to offend you I just have had a lot of people try to scam me in the past, and your bitcoin-otc rating has some bad stuff on it, 

Anyways send it to i********u@h**h.com

the other address was not confirmed, this one is so there should be no problem

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:12 AM, imsaguy wrote:
I did and I have the paypal transaction id and an email from paypal to prove it.  

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Btc
From: cablepair
Date: Wed, November 02, 2011 8:10 am
To: imsaguy

you trying to scam me or something? You did not send any money. What did you do send a fake email to sue@cny-media.com saying youve got money from paypal and expect me to fall for that?  I am in the paypal account right now and you have sent nothing.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:08 AM, cablepair wrote:
you sent to s**@c*******a.com ?


On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:04 AM, imsaguy wrote:
Sent.

[bitcoin address]
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Btc
From: cablepair
Date: Wed, November 02, 2011 7:54 am
To: imsaguy

ok im waiting..

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:52 AM, imsaguy wrote:
I am. Im in the car. Will be to a computer in 10.

cablepair wrote:
your not going to complete this deal with me are you?

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:36 AM, cablepair wrote:
ok send the money to s**@c*******a.com

please make sure you send it as a personal Gift

If it is not sent as a gift I will send it back and cancel the transaction

this will protect us from a charge back situation

send me your wallet address and after I see the money in the account I will send your 15.25 btc

thanks


On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:34 AM, imsaguy wrote:
15.25 btc and you have a deal.


cablepair wrote:
how about 15 BTC for $50 paypal?

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:27 AM, imsaguy wrote:
Hi. I saw your forum posting about selling btc. I am imsaguy from the forum. My bitcoin-otc rating is linked in my profile. 

I'm interested. What is your price?

Thanks,
Nick

[imsaguy]

im sorry - I don't mean to call you a scammer - I really have no proof of that and I apologize


you were just in the unfortunate position of being the next person I tried to deal with after imsaguy

If you never intended to scam that I apologize. I will also post this in your other thread.

here is my latest transaction for all to see, I sold over $600 worth of GPU's to one person, he paid me up front in Bitcoins - you can ask him if I am legit or not (amazinggrando)

and to imsaguy - If you are not a scammer I apologize but anyone that looks at your feedback would think the same thing

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=imsaguy

Actually, any sensible person doesn't take a single negative rating from a much less trusted user as the single overriding factor.  He got pissy after I negative rated him and his -10 was retaliatory.  Its no different than the old eBay ratings.. you negative rate someone and you can almost expect a negative rating back.  

Look at this page.  It lists the ratings by total rating: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratings.php

Where do you see my name?  oh, that's right.  #9 on the list.  I am the 9th highest person.

Next, look at this page. It lists the ratings by unique ratings: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratings.php?sortby=pos_rating_recv_count&sortorder=DESC

Where do you see my name?  in a 3 way tie for 8th.  

It doesn't get much better than that.


Now go back and look for that user that negative rated me.  Where do you see his name?  Don't worry, I'll give you a few minutes to count.

[astana]

it's a scam party! Amanda is a blatant scammer, my advice put down that social engineering book it's giving you brain damage. And the rest oi you are no better.

[imsaguy]

it's a scam party! Amanda is a blatant scammer, my advice put down that social engineering book it's giving you brain damage. And the rest oi you are no better.

I have nothing to do with Amanda.

[Fiyasko]

This is fucking hillarious,
Everyone, Imsaguy is Very trustworthy.

Look at the email logs:
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:36 AM, cablepair wrote:
ok send the money to s**@c*******a.com

please make sure you send it as a personal Gift

If it is not sent as a gift I will send it back and cancel the transaction

IF IT'S A GIFT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ISSUE A CHARGEBACK
Because a GIFT by LAW cannot be "taken back"

[Amanda]

it's a scam party! Amanda is a blatant scammer, my advice put down that social engineering book it's giving you brain damage. And the rest oi you are no better.

I have nothing to do with Amanda.

Indeed. I don't know Imsaguy whatsoever. However, you can ask for example Yankee for a vouch, I just bought several things from his topic and he has received his BTC.

Amanda

[prophexy]

it's a scam party! Amanda is a blatant scammer, my advice put down that social engineering book it's giving you brain damage. And the rest oi you are no better.

I have nothing to do with Amanda.

I can vouch that imsaguy is extremely trustworthy, after joining & spending time in #bitcoin-otc he is one of the people I trust the most.

[Maged]

imsaguy, whatever happened to that money you sent to cablepair's unverified PayPal account?

[cablepair]

He never sent any.

[Maged]

He never sent any.

I already know your side of the story here. I want imsaguy's.

[cablepair]

He does not have a side of the story he is not claiming he sent me money at all
The transaction we were discussing never took place
He did not agree to my terms and I did not agree to his terms

He felt like I was accusing him of being a scammer so he accused me of the same to defend himself
And blah blah blah another stupid thread and wasted time

No one on either side is claiming to have been ripped off by the other