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November 15, 2018, 01:54:16 PM
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Probably because you can display signatures, and you have more chance of gaining merits.

Agree with Jet Cash. Merit and signature is responsible for that.

Or maybe because as you can easily get merits by discussing about merits.  Try being a statistician that concerns anything about merits and I assure you that you will get at least 1 merit for you to rank up.
Yes true. As an extension; build some info graphic and 10 merits are almost guaranteed.

Even if the infographic is useless or not good at showing thingsm you’ll still get something for making a chart.
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November 15, 2018, 04:00:17 PM
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TBH I feel quite intimidated by some of the stuff out there Grin

I feel I'm much better off just quietly reading it rather than publicly showing off my stupidity by trying to comment on it.
Yass queen. Description of those board: Such nerdiness, much lame.

Meta is more like the chill out board, and you get to thrash talk to newbs, what else could you possibly want? I mean,don't you not love it when noobs come here and be like "why you BULLY me?"(Definitely not the Rick Astley song).

Honestly, IT and SD boards are BORING!! And humour be dead there, most of the times, and its more serious, and that's what its intended for. I definitely can't do that. Imma let procrastination be my bitch and talk shit to people.

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November 16, 2018, 09:07:34 PM
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IT is dead because it requirement of to be "Full member" to post there . Board got restricted to  handful of active poster.
Actually it is restricted discussion board.

"SD" look ambiguous to me,Some of the topic posted there looks like "off topic" to me. But it serve the purpose because nobody is bumping your topic with spammy replies. Your topic can stay in first page for couple of months (nice visibility ).

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November 16, 2018, 09:14:24 PM
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IT is dead because it requirement of to be "Full member" to post there . Board got restricted to  handful of active poster.
Actually it is restricted discussion board.

"SD" look ambiguous to me,Some of the topic posted there looks like "off topic" to me. But it serve the purpose because nobody is bumping your topic with spammy replies. Your topic can stay in first page for couple of months (nice visibility ).

That’s true. You don’t get the sig spammers trying to bump all of your topics there to no end either just to flog a dead horse which someone then comes along with more knowledge to resurrect.

I posted above what I think should happen to off topic in order to revolutionaries that board and stop newbie spammers from going to it whenever they need to up their post count.
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November 18, 2018, 12:31:18 AM
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@pugman

I agree with you for sure. I would not usually have even noticed those sub boards or thought it was really the place for a person like myself. However. I really would just like to see the alt discussion board go back to how it was even just a couple of years ago. If that can never happen now It would have been great if all the good old alt posters could just have moved to serious discussion and leave ivory tower for the real smart and serious of course a lot of the old good posters would be quite at home in ivory tower too.

 I don't see why just not having sigs there would prevent most of those going there because most didn't wear sigs or only sigs of projects they liked to support the person other legends running them or projects they had been with for years.  I think maybe most didn't realised it was there or it just didn't get enough persons posting there to build a strong community going.

I think things are getting better anyway so perhaps the alt board will attract most of them back again in the future. Hopefully they didn't all make so much money they just cashed out and lost interest. I don't think that is the reason most of them seemed genuinely so interested and supportive of decentralised, trustless, projects and some had such aspirations to improve and design things themselves.

The old alt discussion board was the most addictive and interesting board I've ever visited with a bunch of very interesting and sometimes extreme characters. Even if you didn't like everything they said or did you couldn't help but be interested in what they would come up with next. Sometimes even just watching 2 very smart people debate/argue is like watching 2 excellent generals in combat and in those arguments there was a lot of information and well described thought streams laid out for people of all levels to gain things from.






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November 18, 2018, 11:23:03 AM
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I feel I'm much better off just quietly reading it rather than publicly showing off my stupidity by trying to comment on it.

This has been my approach from mid 2014 to 2017, just reading and listening to what people have to say without feeling any need of commenting. This is the reason I am not (and with the new rules never will be) a Legendary member.
It's a pity that the forum's ranking mechanics didn't ever find a way to recognize and measure the value of listening vs the one of intervening with comments in most cases unnecessary.

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November 18, 2018, 11:30:54 AM
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I feel I'm much better off just quietly reading it rather than publicly showing off my stupidity by trying to comment on it.

This has been my approach from mid 2014 to 2017, just reading and listening to what people have to say without feeling any need of commenting. This is the reason I am not (and with the new rules never will be) a Legendary member.
If you continue to do so, rank will not be a issue. Forum allows every member to read and listen with a newbie rank only without the investigation board (member rank is enough for that board too.)

And you said it's impossible to be a Legendary anymore. Well, Ddmrddmr has started with 0 merits and s/he has earned 1200+ merits. LoyceV has earned almost 1300 merits so far.
Maybe in your case, it may take some more time but at the end of the day, 1000 merit is not so much, you don't even need the whole 1000.

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November 18, 2018, 11:53:01 AM
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It's a pity that the forum's ranking mechanics didn't ever find a way to recognize and measure the value of listening vs the one of intervening with comments in most cases unnecessary.

You still seem to be earning merit, so the posts you do make are will get you there eventually; just not at the same time as the old system.

I disagree with the above statement though, any such mechanism would really just be rewarding people for not being an inconvenience. When someone comes here to learn and attain knowledge they are drawing from the pool which is great that's what the forum purpose is. In doing so though you are not making a contribution at that moment; later on when you use that knowledge or add some of your own is when the contribution is made and merit would be appropriate.


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November 18, 2018, 04:39:23 PM
Last edit: November 18, 2018, 09:28:36 PM by cryptohunter
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I feel I'm much better off just quietly reading it rather than publicly showing off my stupidity by trying to comment on it.

This has been my approach from mid 2014 to 2017, just reading and listening to what people have to say without feeling any need of commenting. This is the reason I am not (and with the new rules never will be) a Legendary member.
It's a pity that the forum's ranking mechanics didn't ever find a way to recognize and measure the value of listening vs the one of intervening with comments in most cases unnecessary.

Stick to the meta section and do not go near the alt discussion board if it is merit you seek.

Also align yourself with the views of those of high merit meta hermits and do not question their actions in any way.

Or just not worry about merit or rank if you are not a trader or ico sig user and just enjoy posting.

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November 18, 2018, 10:02:16 PM
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I feel I'm much better off just quietly reading it rather than publicly showing off my stupidity by trying to comment on it.

This has been my approach from mid 2014 to 2017, just reading and listening to what people have to say without feeling any need of commenting. This is the reason I am not (and with the new rules never will be) a Legendary member.
It's a pity that the forum's ranking mechanics didn't ever find a way to recognize and measure the value of listening vs the one of intervening with comments in most cases unnecessary.

Stick to the meta section and do not go near the alt discussion board if it is merit you seek.

Also align yourself with the views of those of high merit meta hermits and do not question their actions in any way.

Or just not worry about merit or rank if you are not a trader or ico sig user and just enjoy posting.

I would surely do as you suggest, if I'd be seeking "merits" or "rank", but since I've never cared about titles and prizes in real life - guess what? I won't surely start caring about stuff like that in this forum. I've just stated a mere fact.


I disagree with the above statement though, any such mechanism would really just be rewarding people for not being an inconvenience. When someone comes here to learn and attain knowledge they are drawing from the pool which is great that's what the forum purpose is. In doing so though you are not making a contribution at that moment; later on when you use that knowledge or add some of your own is when the contribution is made and merit would be appropriate.

Mine was just a sort of little philosophical consideration, in no way a concrete proposal, which wouldn't make any sense. And back in the old days (I've first joined this forum almost 5 years ago) this forum was still only a place to discuss and not the huge and noisy bounty signature factory which unfortunatelly is today. As for rewarding people for not being an inconvenience - well, I didn't think it in these terms but I could actually see a point there. Wink

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November 20, 2018, 02:10:54 AM
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I believe is like what Jet Cashhas said its all because of signatures & merits but I would like to add also that one of the reasons also maybe is lack of knowledge and confidence because some newbie [not in rank but in knowledge] or other user has lack of knowledge about cryptoworld and thats one of the reason why they are so very afraid of making some discussion or replies in that thread that may result in misinformation that could also result in report or being a spambies [posting or replying nonsense post] ! ^_^  Grin Grin

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November 20, 2018, 06:11:25 AM
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Those boards, serious discussion and ivory tower has posting restrictions. You need to be at least a jr member to post in the former and full member in the latter.
I doubt a cryptocurrency novice would rise to that rank (except by airdropped merits). And notwithstanding there are enough legitimate high ranking members to keep discussions alive on those boards.

The problem is the discussions are mot primarily about cryptocurrency it could be as diverse as possible and everyone can not be knowledgeable on every subject.


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