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November 28, 2018, 07:49:58 AM
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With the current market cap of cryptocurrency, I can say that it is easy to manipulate and it always is. One news coming from a popular website can make a huge effect with the price of crypto.

Its easier for the whales to manipulate the price of crypto now that the whole market cap is low. Adoption will be the only solution to at least lessen manipulation.

 
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November 28, 2018, 08:59:42 AM
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It was even easy to manipulate at its high capital. What more they could do with this kind of small capital now?
They can put in their capital to pump it up. Potentially those whales who are willing to interrupt the movement and make the market move in the direction they want to would take the capital out one day causing a market crash and then one fine day in the midst of the dump they would buy in making the market move up again. They would either be doing this to fool other traders into buying in or buying out. Its not easy to predict nor useful at all.

Market manipulators who push the price down are now doing themselves any favours. A recovery is becoming increasingly difficult and at this rate could take years before people rejoin the crypto world
Dont need more people to join now. Let them be,the same people will be fomoed once higher prices are reached and they will come back in.

 
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November 28, 2018, 09:05:21 AM
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Obviously. The cryptocurrency market has been manipulated on many different occasions in the past and I don't think this will change anytime soon. I have observed this on multiple occasions myself and there is nothing surprising about any of this op.

I think the recent price crash was a manipulation technique by the Bitcoin cash team which resulted in a negative downtrend. This year is exactly the polar opposite of last year when it comes to the cryptocurrency market trends.

Manipulation will always be a concern due to the extremely volatile nature of this market which is something you simply need to get used to.

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November 28, 2018, 09:44:05 AM
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That so much capital left the market? Market cap was $220 billion 3 weeks ago. Today, we are barely holding on to $125 billion market cap.

Did you see what happened in December? Many governments began to tell their citizens that they should not buy bitcoin because it was dangerous, then these same governments started to impose laws and rules so that the banks of their countries limited people to not be able to buy bitcoins, KYC and Proof of income came to limit people, result: the demand for cryptos has dropped and prices have dropped a lot. but that's not all. Many people had high expectations in ICOs, but with the wave of scammers, many people left the crypto world

How much lower can btc go in price? 3k, 2k, 1k?

No one knows this, but if there is not much demand, it is possible that the price would fall to $3500



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November 28, 2018, 11:38:20 AM
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There are so many speculations on the crypto market in recent times and the issue of manipulations always comes to play whenever we think of making a projection on how bitcoin would look like in the future. I believe the price of bitcoin can still be manipulated further by those who have a large amount of  bitcoin.
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November 28, 2018, 03:01:04 PM
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I don't think bitcoin and altcoins are easy to manipulate. They will need to have huge amount of money before they can manipulate the prices of cryptocurrency.

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November 28, 2018, 03:07:36 PM
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I am more scared if the rich people will just be the one to handle it.
Better for them to sell it now and then go away.
If the whales did this then good. If it is a group of small investors then it might be just okay.

I still prefer differenr individual holding it. Maybe 2 bitcoim per person will give a lot of of difference instead of just 10 with thousands of btc in their hands.

Yes it could be manipulated if you have the right amount of money.
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November 28, 2018, 03:28:15 PM
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what does the total market cap have anything to do with bitcoin price that you are asking your question like this?!! there are trillions of tokens in circulation and when the price of shitcoins fall this total market cap ($200 billion) gets dumped hard with them. just as when  shitcoins are pumping it shoots up! it is fake anyways.

as for manipulation, the more you manipulate and the more you push the price down the harder it gets since the resistance would become bigger and bigger. to a point where  the buying power not only negates the manipulators but also pushes it back up again.

It does IMO, the sell off of BTC bring down most of the Altcoins along with it, BTC was around $6200 some weeks ago and went as low as $3500, that is more than 43% loss in value and we all know that BTC dominance in the space is still very strong and the whole marketcap come down with it. There is no way we won't tie this with BTC because most of these so called Shitcoins derive their value from BTC pair on most exchanges


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November 28, 2018, 03:33:48 PM
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Of course, with the lower market cap price manipulation is much easier. It is even much easier when users are in panic because they do not think reasonably and make decisions under the influence of fear. However, i think that this is the end of the bear market and positive moods are slowly coming back to the market.

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November 28, 2018, 03:34:22 PM
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I think this time manipulating bitcoin or altcoin is not impossible because everything is possible in using high technology. Specially in terms of making money manipulating is always there so even in bitcoin or altcoin this is more possible or prone. But I think if you were still safe if you are making transaction private because all we know that privacy is the only thing that we only do for our safety,dont let other people know your personal password account or even your private keys. I believe that every online transactions can manipulate because of technology so we need to be careful.

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November 28, 2018, 03:57:25 PM
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For a single person it is very tough to manipulate the whole market because it is not a small market to which can be manipulate by any one for this a strong group if ready they have a major hold in the crypto they can change the market position and it is natural that demand and supply forces can bring changes in the actual market cap. Mostly big businesses need to bring the currency to a level which they afford so they make a plane for that and some time they spread rumors in the market.

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November 28, 2018, 04:00:00 PM
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That so much capital left the market? Market cap was $220 billion 3 weeks ago. Today, we are barely holding on to $125 billion market cap. How much lower can btc go in price? 3k, 2k, 1k?

I don't feel like it's dead, but I feel like it is a lot more vulnerable than it was prior to a month ago, and I am not certain about a recovery any time soon.


manipulation has strong causes and factors. only then can it happen, as in the fake satosi case about the destruction of bitcoin recently. it is one of the manipulations that occur from the role of FUD which has been designed to impose the price of bitcoin. and this can be the entrance to the pope to buy bitcoin at a cheap price.

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November 28, 2018, 04:13:19 PM
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Of course, with the lower market cap price manipulation is much easier. It is even much easier when users are in panic because they do not think reasonably and make decisions under the influence of fear. However, i think that this is the end of the bear market and positive moods are slowly coming back to the market.
The more cheap the price, the more easier to do manipulation. The fact is altcoin easier to manipulated then bitcoin. With the current drop price, a few altcoin might already manipulated by group of people, but for btc it will require more power to manipulates. The obvious thing is not easy to do that.
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November 28, 2018, 05:02:59 PM
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Of course, with the lower market cap price manipulation is much easier. It is even much easier when users are in panic because they do not think reasonably and make decisions under the influence of fear. However, i think that this is the end of the bear market and positive moods are slowly coming back to the market.
The more cheap the price, the more easier to do manipulation. The fact is altcoin easier to manipulated then bitcoin. With the current drop price, a few altcoin might already manipulated by group of people, but for btc it will require more power to manipulates. The obvious thing is not easy to do that.

I don't think it matter for whales though. They can manipulate expensive btc and make it crash and they can pump cheap btc it whenever they like. It's the people's reaction to those manipulations that makes the difference. Of course panic would have greater effect.

 
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November 28, 2018, 05:21:34 PM
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Bitcoin and everything in cryptocurrency is vulnerable.
The market and the people dictates the price of the token.
We were at 800 BILLION market cap before, we were less than a billion too.
We should understand the market and gain from it.
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November 28, 2018, 05:26:06 PM
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Of course it's easy to manipulate the market... If you have millions or billions of Bitcoin or altcoins, but still it depends of the demand even if you sell a million or billion of Bitcoins in the market and no one wants to buy it to you it will not going to change.

But volume really has a big part of the price change isn't?

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November 28, 2018, 05:38:03 PM
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If you are a billionaire and you want to control and manipulate the market in the future, now it is a good time to buy, I guess that is what happened in the last weeks and one of the biggest manipulators is the Satoshi himself
I think even you are a billionaire still it is hard to manipulate market. We all know that Satoshi Nakamoto have a lot of bitcoin on his wallet so we can really say he can really manipulate the market. However, Satoshi Nakamoti is still unknown so no one know who can manipulate the market.



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November 28, 2018, 05:40:18 PM
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It doesn't change much. Altcoins were being manipulated anyway by rich miners who had a lot of money and could boost an altcoin early on when not many people were interested in it, mine a lot, and dump it all when the right time comes. 2 years ago the market was much smaller than now and it was much easier to manipulate.
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November 28, 2018, 06:48:28 PM
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That so much capital left the market? Market cap was $220 billion 3 weeks ago. Today, we are barely holding on to $125 billion market cap. How much lower can btc go in price? 3k, 2k, 1k?

I don't feel like it's dead, but I feel like it is a lot more vulnerable than it was prior to a month ago, and I am not certain about a recovery any time soon.
big investors can indeed manipulate prices and we as small investors just go with the flow, prices go down quickly and prices of time will rise slowly, whales always eat anchovy which is easily panic


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November 28, 2018, 07:05:52 PM
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I don't agree. There are 'shity altcoins' as you say, but there can't all be bad. I believe that there is a hidden gem out there that has a potential and that deserves a shot. Think about it. The leverage of BTC is that it was first and it was implemented already. The rest that arrived later had less chance to succeed and of course it is easier to manipulate with small, unimportant and anonymous altcoins.
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