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November 30, 2018, 03:04:47 PM
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    A good percentage of members entering the forum where lured by the financial gains the can make by wearing a signature and a good percentage of those member after they might have meet the very minimal requirements( legally or otherwise) are in so much haste to copy and paste a signature of a bounty project on there signature space.

   The idea of gaining from just any signature you advertise on the forum is quite a false one. Most don't even understand what the project the are promoting is all about, to know If there is a future.

  A notable member of the forum has once written that to make real gain from the forum you must have stayed on the forum for a while rising and increasing your knowledge.  Nothing good comes easy very rear to see a good paying signature accepting the low members.

   I would be hypocritical if I tell you I don't want to earn from the forum I actually want to do but there is no gain working for project that end up in misery. It's time now for me to pay the price for a better future those that are earning tangibly had paid there price and worked for it. By contributing positively to the forum.

  Do well to read now to stay focused grabbing useful hint that notable or generous member drop. no one love a spammer reduce unhealthy post( without you knowing you will be noticed) then you would sure have a good future here
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November 30, 2018, 03:21:27 PM
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Bounty hunters, just like most investors are only concerned about the potential ROI (in this case hunters invest time and resources), and they are little bothered about the project, if the allocation is good and there's hype they go for it.
Also ICOs are very complicated, and it's almost impossible to predict which project would be good.
But you can see signs of which would not be.

very rear to see a good paying signature accepting the low members.

A good signature campaign, for example those which day in BTC are not ICOs, but establishments which has a project and could run unlimitedly.
And yes, they have limited participants and rarely accept Jr members, some take only as high as Sr members.

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November 30, 2018, 03:23:43 PM
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It's a free market that regulate itself somehow.

The lower rank members are in a haste to get in for various bounties. Signature campaign is only one part of the problem. The competition is big and they are too new to understand that if they don't pay attention to what campaign they join, they probably earn next to nothing (or get scammed, or promote scam and also get scammed).

But it's a learning curve. The lower ranks get small pay for the signatures, their signature space is more limited and now, with the Merit requirements, the ones that don't learn to also read what the others say, will rank up slower. When they are ready, they'll rank up and they'll have a better understanding about the campaigns too.

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November 30, 2018, 03:57:43 PM
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Well let’s face it. Most people do not really know much more than the name of the ICO they are promoting on their signature, let alone the strong points it may have, and chances of real effective success. NOT that ICOs generally care too much either in general, since what they want is to be as broadly advertised as possible. That to me seems pretty weird, since it would seem logical to look after “where” one advertises, meaning by that the signature bearer.

Currently, there are 24.825 different forum users that have been merited since the Merit System kicked-off. With the September requirement to become a Jr. Member (and therefore to have at least 1 Merit) to wear a signature, likely the competence for a slot in an ICO campaign has increased noticeably, although there are less ICOs around. I would have thought that the less than 25K merited users would not be enough to cover all the simultaneous forum campaigns.
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November 30, 2018, 05:10:42 PM
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You correct about good paying signature project love to recruit high ranking members of the forum that one if the reasons member go for ico and they are turning out to be discouraging but still there are few that are worth it

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November 30, 2018, 05:13:19 PM
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I would have thought that the less than 25K merited users would not be enough to cover all the simultaneous forum campaigns.

There is a general decrease in number of participants, and its spread among all the campaigns. They might all get publicity, but the number is reduced.
If you also consider the copper member newbies who can wear signatures and personal texts, the figures would be higher.
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November 30, 2018, 05:27:22 PM
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<...>If you also consider the copper member newbies who can wear signatures and personal texts, the figures would be higher.
Quite true. I’ve taken a look and I make it another 3.442 Copper Members active in 2018 (have at least logged-in, and are unmerited). Therefore, potential forum user pool size for campaigns is now really in the 28K area.
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November 30, 2018, 06:26:00 PM
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Really though, I get what you are saying.   I've been involved in a lot of airdrops,   especially mid last year when we had a new ERC-20 airdrop every hour.   It always amazed me how the majority of people couldn't even read basic instructions,  let alone understand what the project was or was not.   People just see free money and flock to it.  It isn't specific to the crypto world.

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November 30, 2018, 07:18:49 PM
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  The idea of gaining from just any signature you advertise on the forum is quite a false one.
Agree, back in a day people just put in signatures what they like/using. Nowadays its more about gaining anything from it. Im old boy in these manner.
I don't like pressure to be in signature campaign at all, if you have respectable job you don't need pennies of additional gain. More on this, try to learn and know what you are saying before you do, it will help you and others around you.
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November 30, 2018, 10:06:50 PM
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  The idea of gaining from just any signature you advertise on the forum is quite a false one.
Agree, back in a day people just put in signatures what they like/using. Nowadays its more about gaining anything from it. Im old boy in these manner.
I don't like pressure to be in signature campaign at all, if you have respectable job you don't need pennies of additional gain. More on this, try to learn and know what you are saying before you do, it will help you and others around you.

That's funny coming from you, someone who has been advertising a scam for how many years now in your signature?

I'm not sure if you're trying to be ironic or not, but it sure does make you look like a laughing stock, and extremely hypocritical. LMAO  Roll Eyes

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November 30, 2018, 11:54:46 PM
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People really don't care much about the projects or the ICOs or how they even progress...  so long as they make some pennies out of it by just wearing a signature after selling off the tokens?coins. I wouldn't really blame some of them, because one way or the other, We are all out here to learn or earn something thou doing both at ago is the best option

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December 01, 2018, 12:44:07 AM
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You are fully responsible for the signature that you are wearing (Whether you understand it or not). You are supposed to check the company ,links in your signature and other aspects of it. You can be banned if your paid signature contain phishing links or get -ve trust if you are putting signature of shady/ponzi project.

Phishing is bannable. Probably everyone who wore it would be banned.

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This is not what the bounty participants should do. The only thing the bounty participants need to follow is to follow the rules of the forum and avoid spamming when posting.

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December 01, 2018, 06:50:27 AM
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I remember a campaign that turn out to be a scammed project, I forgot the name but it get hyped due to huge btc payment rendered but the problem is many got tricked and worst a major ban happen on those account that joined the cmapaign. Hope someone remind what this project.
Bitcoin payment campaigns must be run by reputation bounty managers and/or rewards must be put in escrow. Don't join campaigns that do not have these 2 things.

This is not what the bounty participants should do. The only thing the bounty participants need to follow is to follow the rules of the forum and avoid spamming when posting.

Well i think all member must do that.
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Quite true. I’ve taken a look and I make it another 3.442 Copper Members active in 2018 (have at least logged-in, and are unmerited). Therefore, potential forum user pool size for campaigns is now really in the 28K area.

Meaning to say that the number of the spammers had even decrease but it we will going to add newbie copper members would compensate the number of bounty hunters that has been doing bounty campaigns before the new merit system implemented?

This probably because many are new users who enter the forum and instead of waiting to acquire 1 merit to rank up to jr. member and wear signature one user may tend up to buy the copper membership program. This maybe because of some advises and feed back from other users about wearing copper membership program. Definitely true, because the copper membership program is somehow a shortcut to wear signatures without getting even 1 merit. But, it is up to bounty managers now if they will allowed newbie copper members to join and wear signatures.

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This probably because many are new users who enter the forum and instead of waiting to acquire 1 merit to rank up to jr. member and wear signature one user may tend up to buy the copper membership program. This maybe because of some advises and feed back from other users about wearing copper membership program. Definitely true, because the copper membership program is somehow a shortcut to wear signatures without getting even 1 merit. But, it is up to bounty managers now if they will allowed newbie copper members to join and wear signatures.

There are many uses of copper membership besides allowing a user to wear signatures.
It can also be acquired who want to promotes their projects by making ANN threads, and have a timeline. Instead of waiting to get merits and also required activity thymey can bug copper membership and get right to work.
And dues o decrease in jr members who make you a bulk order bounty participants, most campaigns now accepts copper members.
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December 01, 2018, 10:09:49 AM
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I gave you the merit that you need for your rank increase, but you missed the most important consideration  when evaluating signatures.  This is the fact that it affects your reputation in the forum, and, to a certain extent, on the wider net. If you promote a scam, or even a product or project that many consider undesirable, then readers will consider that to reflect your morals or political beliefs.

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December 01, 2018, 12:43:17 PM
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This is not what the bounty participants should do. The only thing the bounty participants need to follow is to follow the rules of the forum and avoid spamming when posting.
Do you really think so,advertising scam is against the rules and probably could get one in trouble,as well as phishing links,now how is one going to find out if their not advertising any of the aforementioned without scrutinizing the projects thoroughly..
Definitely spamming while on signature makes the word "spam" even worst,as it'll simply be tagged as a blatant abuse of forum privilege just to fulfill weekly tasks..
The best thing to do is always to be aware of whatever signature you're putting on,like going an extra mile to research about the project..
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December 03, 2018, 07:48:18 AM
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This is why I am proud to wear my current signature, because I truly believe and support financial privacy. Bitcoin do not have enough anonymity built into the protocol and mixer services gives you the opportunity to be 100% anonymous. I have nothing to hide, other than the wealth that I acquired and that I need to protect by using these mixer services.  Wink

A few years ago, "Cloud mining" was a big thing on this forum and most people believed that "Cloud mining" was not a Ponzi scheme, so they promoted these companies in these signature campaigns. In the end these companies were exposed as pure Ponzi schemes and people were left with red faces.

The same thing are happening with scam ICOs now and people will once again be left with red faces. My advice will be to support signature/bounty campaigns that they truly believe in. <Do proper background checks and research on the companies, before you start supporting their campaigns>  Wink

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December 03, 2018, 09:20:14 AM
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Really though, I get what you are saying.   I've been involved in a lot of airdrops,   especially mid last year when we had a new ERC-20 airdrop every hour.   It always amazed me how the majority of people couldn't even read basic instructions,  let alone understand what the project was or was not.   People just see free money and flock to it.  It isn't specific to the crypto world.

That's probably because they use multiple accounts and therefore have little time to read much of anything lol. But yeah, this isn't going to stop until bounty managers stop accepting project tokens as payment. Projects literally create those out of thin air so they can spam bounties as many times as they want. This also results in subpar bounty manager performance, with neither parties having anything to lose. No one involved is incentivized to push for quality content at all.

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