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January 08, 2019, 11:10:05 PM
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When someone gambles regularlty and they are not going to withdraw their money too often then their preference will be better site with good security.They won't care about instand withdrawals but no legit site will delay our winning amount.
Wrong, occassionally there are some legit casino's that delay withdrawals and if you'll just stay and get into ANN threads of casino's you will see that there were some special cases that their withdrawals were delayed.

Why? its either the gambler was acting shady with his account and was caught abusing some features of the casino like with bonuses. But its under investigation so they have to delay and pending the withdrawal.
I didn't say abut exceptional cases,just normally some casinos will make you wait for your winning amount to be credited,so you will use that casino too if you met this multiple times?
We have different level of patience and if they are legit and paying with my winnings, why I should stop using them? You may don't like delayed payouts but I may like the delay ones because they are paying and reputable.

As long as there's a very responsive support and you can be sure that your money is always safe with them. But in the long run if the delay was too much, I might stop using them.

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January 08, 2019, 11:51:54 PM
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Instant withdrawal websites can also turn into a scam, if all of a sudden withdrawals are not processed or if they have "technical problems" ....
Agree. Actually, there is no guarantee for gamblers that casino sites will never be scam.

those who never leave balance in the account would definitely prefer instant over "safety" in some way.
Well. I am one of them, I have never saved money in an account and I always withdraw the money at the end of the game. That's why I prefer casino sites that have fast or instant withdrawal.


I think no one can subcribes gambling site with have delay withdrawal  if they can try to play there for sure they didn't come back again to play in that's site if having withdrawal delays.
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January 09, 2019, 12:09:23 AM
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I have thought of delayed payments as a way to get the funds in the casino. So for example, they keep the fund in cold storage, whether it's a hardware wallet or something as long as it's secure. Second, they withdraw it there to having a revolving fund for withdrawals. Maybe they have to replenish it or something.

if you haven't been paid out in a gambling casino, it's best to share your experience and open a scam accusation with the site.

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January 09, 2019, 04:11:32 AM
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I have thought of delayed payments as a way to get the funds in the casino. So for example, they keep the fund in cold storage, whether it's a hardware wallet or something as long as it's secure. Second, they withdraw it there to having a revolving fund for withdrawals. Maybe they have to replenish it or something.

if you haven't been paid out in a gambling casino, it's best to share your experience and open a scam accusation with the site.
Before doing a scam acquisition. I think it's good if you make contact support with their CS. I've also experienced such conditions. where the withdrawal I did. did not get tx but the balance has gone. it took several days to complete it. sometimes technical errors do occur in the gambling site system I think. but I never playing in that site again
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January 09, 2019, 06:01:24 AM
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Instant withdrawal websites can also turn into a scam, if all of a sudden withdrawals are not processed or if they have "technical problems" ....
Agree. Actually, there is no guarantee for gamblers that casino sites will never be scam.

those who never leave balance in the account would definitely prefer instant over "safety" in some way.
Well. I am one of them, I have never saved money in an account and I always withdraw the money at the end of the game. That's why I prefer casino sites that have fast or instant withdrawal.


I think no one can subcribes gambling site with have delay withdrawal  if they can try to play there for sure they didn't come back again to play in that's site if having withdrawal delays.

That gambling site will not have many members and I am sure that it will no need to wait for a long time to see the site will close their services. People don't want to wait too long and I am sure they will search the other gambling site which doesn't have a delay for days to send the payments. Besides that, I think there are many other recommended gambling site for their sources to playing gambling and they don't have any problem to join and continue playing the games.

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January 09, 2019, 06:05:10 AM
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January 09, 2019, 06:27:30 AM
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I have thought of delayed payments as a way to get the funds in the casino. So for example, they keep the fund in cold storage, whether it's a hardware wallet or something as long as it's secure. Second, they withdraw it there to having a revolving fund for withdrawals. Maybe they have to replenish it or something.

if you haven't been paid out in a gambling casino, it's best to share your experience and open a scam accusation with the site.
Before doing a scam acquisition. I think it's good if you make contact support with their CS. I've also experienced such conditions. where the withdrawal I did. did not get tx but the balance has gone. it took several days to complete it. sometimes technical errors do occur in the gambling site system I think. but I never playing in that site again
If you are facing this error for first time means then there is no issue with waiting for some days,for me upto 48 hours will be acceptable but even after than there is no sign of response from the support then creating a thread on scam accusation section may help them quicker.

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January 09, 2019, 01:05:01 PM
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I have thought of delayed payments as a way to get the funds in the casino. So for example, they keep the fund in cold storage, whether it's a hardware wallet or something as long as it's secure. Second, they withdraw it there to having a revolving fund for withdrawals. Maybe they have to replenish it or something.

if you haven't been paid out in a gambling casino, it's best to share your experience and open a scam accusation with the site.
Before doing a scam acquisition. I think it's good if you make contact support with their CS. I've also experienced such conditions. where the withdrawal I did. did not get tx but the balance has gone. it took several days to complete it. sometimes technical errors do occur in the gambling site system I think. but I never playing in that site again
Yes, do effort first to confirm with the team before making any complain, and make an accusation. Sometimes its good to solve this between you and the team instead of making some scandal. I also don’t want to experience any delay on my withdrawals because it makes me nervous and my heart beats so fast, better no to play on that kind of site to save my money and my life as well.
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January 11, 2019, 05:05:32 AM
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I have thought of delayed payments as a way to get the funds in the casino. So for example, they keep the fund in cold storage, whether it's a hardware wallet or something as long as it's secure. Second, they withdraw it there to having a revolving fund for withdrawals. Maybe they have to replenish it or something.

if you haven't been paid out in a gambling casino, it's best to share your experience and open a scam accusation with the site.
Before doing a scam acquisition. I think it's good if you make contact support with their CS. I've also experienced such conditions. where the withdrawal I did. did not get tx but the balance has gone. it took several days to complete it. sometimes technical errors do occur in the gambling site system I think. but I never playing in that site again
If you are facing this error for first time means then there is no issue with waiting for some days,for me upto 48 hours will be acceptable but even after than there is no sign of response from the support then creating a thread on scam accusation section may help them quicker.
If their CS is slow of course it will take days and of course I will avoid gambling sites that have slow response CS. that's the best thing. there are still many gambling sites anyway and scam accusation are the last thing to threaten them if they no longer respond to the complaints you make.
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January 11, 2019, 05:54:37 PM
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Free drinks and half naked girls are the reason probably. Sometimes you just want to interact with real people with real faces. Staying in front of a computer 24/7 sometimes gets boring. Sometimes it is not just gambling you are after. Sometimes you just want to get out of your room and get some fresh air.

If your aim is gambling and gambling only, you can't beat online casinos however.

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March 06, 2019, 08:52:51 PM
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Well, anything is possible on unregulated centralized casinos, as long as it is under the control of a person or an entity. I doubt blockchain based casinos are this restrictive or withhold people's fund. Gamblers should use them more

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March 06, 2019, 09:48:51 PM
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Since the point of using BTC is for fast transactions, I dont think its fair for players to wait a few days for payments.
This is one of the reasons why BTC > fiat casinos. Not having to wait for your check to arrive via snail mail.
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March 06, 2019, 11:10:41 PM
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Ofcourse not. There are a lot of casinos which pay in an instant time. If it's delayed in payment, then it's not a competitive casino that exists. Although it seems not a big deal, it should be considered by the owner of that particular gambling site.
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March 07, 2019, 01:22:48 AM
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Ofcourse not. There are a lot of casinos which pay in an instant time. If it's delayed in payment, then it's not a competitive casino that exists. Although it seems not a big deal, it should be considered by the owner of that particular gambling site.
As a gambling site owner you should really focus into these factors yet most gamblers are really impatient which means having a delay either on withdrawals
or deposits would really pisses them off easily and would already give out bad impressions to the site which causes for them to seek out an another gambling site
which would suit out their needs.

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March 07, 2019, 01:34:00 AM
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Ofcourse not. There are a lot of casinos which pay in an instant time. If it's delayed in payment, then it's not a competitive casino that exists. Although it seems not a big deal, it should be considered by the owner of that particular gambling site.
As a gambling site owner you should really focus into these factors yet most gamblers are really impatient which means having a delay either on withdrawals
or deposits would really pisses them off easily and would already give out bad impressions to the site which causes for them to seek out an another gambling site
which would suit out their needs.

those delays are completely normal because we are dealing on cryptocurrencies and crypto's are not instant payments  . they need to go thru a tedious process , they need to be mined by miners while miners are sometimes lazy because they are too picky  . they pick the transaction with higher inputed fees  .  so that's it i wouldnt mind my payments to be delayed   . what im more concern of is the fairness of gambling site  . 
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March 07, 2019, 06:47:02 AM
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If this happens too often then I I won't play again and that's it because there are lot of gambling sites which gives instant approval for the withdrawal request so playing on that gambling sites will give trust to deposit any amount of money.
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March 07, 2019, 07:23:14 AM
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Why would i wait for days when theres so many casinos online that offers instant withdrawals?

I don’t know if whats with the person choosing those sites when they can have much better one

Maybe whatever reason they have yet not enough for me to play on late withdrawals,and specially for people like me who’s playing only by occasions?no i will never play on that
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May 03, 2019, 05:41:13 PM
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I may consider such casino if only it is a trusted casino. After all most people, YouTubers for example have to wait for something to recieve payment. YouTube is a trusted company so no one really bothers about the waiting time.
Who doesn't like Quick withdrawal though. Much better & probably unique to crypto?

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May 03, 2019, 06:43:41 PM
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Ofcourse not. There are a lot of casinos which pay in an instant time. If it's delayed in payment, then it's not a competitive casino that exists. Although it seems not a big deal, it should be considered by the owner of that particular gambling site.
As a gambling site owner you should really focus into these factors yet most gamblers are really impatient which means having a delay either on withdrawals
or deposits would really pisses them off easily and would already give out bad impressions to the site which causes for them to seek out an another gambling site
which would suit out their needs.

those delays are completely normal because we are dealing on cryptocurrencies and crypto's are not instant payments  . they need to go thru a tedious process , they need to be mined by miners while miners are sometimes lazy because they are too picky  . they pick the transaction with higher inputed fees  .  so that's it i wouldnt mind my payments to be delayed   . what im more concern of is the fairness of gambling site  . 
You are just talking literally on how miners do work which is just normal.Not all gambling sites do make use of high fees
 when it comes to withdrawals this is why the confirmation would really depend on the network itself.The important thing is on how these
sites execute or process the withdrawal.

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May 04, 2019, 10:55:58 AM
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I may consider such casino if only it is a trusted casino. After all most people, YouTubers for example have to wait for something to recieve payment. YouTube is a trusted company so no one really bothers about the waiting time.
Who doesn't like Quick withdrawal though. Much better & probably unique to crypto?
To be honest, I will not gamble at a casino that would delay my payments. Like if you win 0.5 Bitcoin now and the market price is pretty attractive. You could cash it and could make good money with it but due to delayed payment, you get your coins after the market falls. This is not in the interest of the player but the house and I think no one who understands gambling and the rules would go for it.

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