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February 15, 2019, 07:36:17 AM
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There are some projects that allow users to sell their private data to marketing companies. I am wondering if you are considering that option or if your project is solely based on privacy and free access to information. Have you considered collaboration with such projects?
Yes, users should the right to decide what to do with their private data (including selling it). That's what we call data sovereignty in our whitepaper. I can see that as future work when we develop the trusted Internet. For now, we'll be focusing on protecting data privacy.
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February 15, 2019, 07:44:59 AM
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When do you plan to have your token on exchanges? Do you plan to hit up any crypto exchanges like Binance, KuCoin or Huobi?
We definitely have plans to list our tokens on major exchanges. But before that, we'll be focusing on deploying our devices and gaining real utilities of our token. Once Deeper token (DPR) is widely adopted, major exchanges will in turn need DPR to be listed.
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February 15, 2019, 12:14:18 PM
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Hmm, I like good projects to tinker with.

So if I understood correctly, once AtomOS is released, anyone anywhere can install a node on whatever hardware he wants (be it a pi or a nuc for instance)? Are homemade devices allowed to mine on the e2 chain too?

Because the main issue usually is getting those "official" devices shipped abroad. They usually cost quite a bit and paying import and shipping taxes is always an annoyance.

Can more than one device run on a home network? Asking as residential internet connections usually have one single (and dynamic) IP. Or could I potentially a deep army of rPIs :p?

BTW there's a typo page 64: "Similar to Carnado [9], ", it's Cardano, not Carnado

I know it's a small detail, but it's worth correcting...
Just fixed the typo in whitepaper Smiley Thanks very much!

You basically need to run AtomOS to participate in e2 chain mining. A mini PC + AtomOS definitely works! As for multiple nodes in a home network, I don't have an answer now. We'll carefully think about it in e2 chain implementation. We generally discourage mining farms as we want to give everybody an equal chance to participate.

Cool, thanks for the answer.

I would say if all it takes is a device with a network port, then the investment to run a "deeper farm" is a lot less compared to a GPU farm. I mean a Pi is what, 30$ compared to 2000+$ for a GPU mining rig. So the chance to participate is equal for everyone. However for true decentralization it would make sense to allow 1 device per IP to prevent farms.
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February 17, 2019, 10:18:03 PM
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How will the price of DPR tokens be determined in a real use case situation? Let’s consider the case of a deficit of nodes available for users? Will users compete for available nodes making bids? And what about the opposite, where there is an excess of nodes available? Wouldn’t that lower the price too? Basically, what are the dynamics of price discovery for your tokens in a live and active network?

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February 28, 2019, 08:36:05 PM
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Are you using low frequency multicore architecture as part of your design to increase scalability and are these components part of the design of your router?
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March 01, 2019, 12:58:57 AM
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How many nodes are you aiming to distribute around the world for your network to be considered secure and stable? Approximately how much will this equipment cost?

1K nodes are enough.
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March 01, 2019, 01:00:13 AM
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Are you using low frequency multicore architecture as part of your design to increase scalability and are these components part of the design of your router?
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Yes, this is what our AtomOS adapted. AtomOS uses HIPE to take advantage of multicore architecture.
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March 26, 2019, 07:55:50 PM
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Some people ask us about the design philosophy of PoC, here is a brief introduction:

Consensus entropy and PoC consensus mechanism


Basic idea: Use entropy concept from physics in block chain, thus, we introduce the concept of  consensus entropy.

1. The concept of consensus entropy
In a distributed system, by default, the reliability of every node  is unstable; maybe there are many false nodes (created by script nodes). Under such a situation, we can say the system is in chaos. In other words, "consensus entropy" is very high. The computation used in PoW of bitcoin is to eliminate false nodes; in the meantime, to punish false/dishonest nodes in order to ensure the consensus in the end. From physics point of view, those extra computing power from computer is the work of a high entropy distributed system. Thus, it reduces the entropy of the system in order to build consensus in the end. As a result, it can complete the basic function of block chain. 


2. Is it necessary to elimination of entropy endlessly?
PoW is currently the most reliable consensus mechanism (calculation). But, the short coming is obvious as well, because it needs to work constantly to maintain low entropy status unanimously. Thus, it wastes a lots of energy. It will generate 1.3 ton carbon dioxide and costs thousands dollar to produce one bitcoin. Is that really necessary?

The two main functions of PoW are 1) eliminating the false node, 2) punishing the false node.

2.1. Eliminating the false node:

In the every round of PoW calculation, it is contentious on every node in order to do the block chain mining. The false node does not have computing power. Therefore, it will be eliminated. In this process, all the real nodes will do a massive computation for the system and it will reduce the consensus entropy to reach the consensus in the end. But from the next block, all the nodes will start eliminating entropy all over again. Therefore, the huge resources are being wasted. We kind of know this is unnecessary, because the system is in low entropy status. The very next round consensus should start from the "low entropy" status, not to start from the very beginning, forgetting about its "low entropy" status. The short coming of PoW is the design flaw, without ability to maintain its own "low entropy" status. Thus, the whole system is to eliminate entropy endlessly.

2.2. Punish the false/dishonest node: Besides the punishment for computing power, there are some other punishment method such as using "token." So, it is not a must to punish false/dishonest node in PoW.

In summary, if we can design a system to maintain its low entropy after the previous elimination of entropy; in conjunction with other punishment measures, we can create a new consensus mechanism method without PoW.
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August 04, 2019, 10:35:30 PM
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this is a job that will make a good future, we hope a lot with it, good luck, sir.
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August 05, 2019, 08:16:05 PM
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WHAT IS DEEPER NETWORK?

Deeper Network is a blockchain-powered all-in-one solution that provides true Internet freedom with enhanced security. Combining security, sharing, and blockchain, Deeper creates a new concept called SSS (Secure Shared Service) that enables open and secure Internet access and equal participation in mining.

https://i.imgur.com/ctoSJnu.png
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Deeper Use Cases:

* Internet Censorship Circumvention
* Defense Against Cyber Attacks.
* Parental Control.
* Roaming Access.
* Profiting from Network Sharing.
* Blockchain Mining.
* DApp Store.



PoC Consensus Mechanism



The consensus mechanism supporting blockchain operation is decentralized, namely, there is no centralized function responsible for the whole system’s operation. Then how are transactions recorded and how are smart contracts implemented? The whole system runs automatically only when a large user population can efficiently reach consensus.Satoshi Nakamoto, the founder of Bitcoin, is long-gone from the Bitcoin scene yet the system is still running thanks to its crucial PoW consensus mechanism. However, traditional blockchain technologies are not without flaws. For example, Bitcoin and Ethereum achieved security and fairness with low efficiency and high energy consump62 tion. The recently launched EOS achieved high efficiency and low energy consumption by sacrificing the fairness of a decentralized system [30]. The consensus mechanism of an excellent decentralized system should have the following characteristics:
• High efficiency
• Low energy consumption
• Security
• Fairness
The echain based on our PoC consensus mechanism has all of the above characteristics.Therefore, we have every reason to believe that the echain will replace all of the currently popular blockchain technologies. After the launch of the echain mainnet,users can automatically perform echain mining by upgrading their Deeper Connect.
This means that anyone can access the core of the blockchain economy without wasting
time, effort nor money. We can offer all users both the benefits of a secure shared
network and of the blockchain economy.



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October 13, 2019, 12:48:12 AM
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If your device is secure enough, there is an army of people who will be willing to use it. Currently the world is moving in the same direction as China. Revolutionary technologies capable of providing private and unrestricted access to Internet will bloom in the coming years.
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