Re: The release of Satoshi's personal data

[Tyr808]

Nothing-burger.

[niotib]

Why should I even care about him 

Because he's a man who invented something for the progression of mankind.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Nothing-burger.

In the spirit of Satoshi possibly having seven wives, I present an image to enhance your post ...

[S_Therapist]

Things here like-
No one has ever seen Satoshi Nakamoto.
Oh, well, I'm Satoshi Nakamoto.

[nutildah]

Nothing-burger.

In the spirit of Satoshi possibly having seven wives, I present an image to enhance your post ...

I didn't know Mormons had their own cuisine. Do they have food preparation standards that are the equivalent of Kosher or Halal? I wonder what its called... "Smithee" perhaps.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Nothing-burger.

In the spirit of Satoshi possibly having seven wives, I present an image to enhance your post ...

I didn't know Mormons had their own cuisine. Do they have food preparation standards that are the equivalent of Kosher or Halal? I wonder what its called... "Smithee" perhaps.

Powdered milk and eggs; dried beans; canned vegetables, fruit, and even canned meat and cheese are staples of many kitchens. (This may have something to do with the stereotypical blandness of traditional Mormon food.) ... For most Mormons over 40, two standard dishes sum up the tradition: green Jell-O and funeral potatoes. Green Jell-O, a fluffy dessert of whipped cream and crushed pineapple folded into lime gelatin, is a constant presence at parties.

It takes 13 Mormons to change a light bulb ...: one to change the bulb and a dozen to bring the refreshments.

Back on topic, ...

How many bitcoiners does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Answer: m of n.

Which begs the question: does m = Mormon?

[Marbelli]

yes you will never know about Satoshi’s real personality and I think it’s time to calm down and leave it alone

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Doublespend Timestamp you have made a fatal flaw in your research, you have made assumptions
Then you presented assumptions as fact to this forum and in the process made a fool of yourself and no doubt pissed off James

Yes, the James A Donald on Metzdowd is James A Bowery, that I already know as a fact, as would many of us, so you got that right.

However you have not presented ANY stylometric data that links James to Satoshi's writings...big fail there
You have assumed James is Satoshi because of his skill set, experience and some of his colloquialisms appear to the same as Satoshi's

In terms of actual stylometric results James is a poor match. Check and compare their use of contractions, there is no match.. nada

It strikes me as ODD that someone whom refers to James as a friend would publicly attempt to reveal him on a public forum.
So what goes on there?

At this stage the information available points away from James as Satoshi, so you need to go back to the drawing board and quit rambling on like a madman in this forum.
 

DT's research is based on my thread containing the following post ...

In my opinion even Phinnaeus Gage don't really believe that James A. Donald is Satoshi indeed

But his target to make controversy thread is success

In all fairness, guys, I truly did believe I found the smoking gun. I wasn't aware that there were originals of the emails, assuming all other sites having the same info were just mirroring the main crypto site.

For what it's worth, a discussion is now underway, e.g. Wasabi, et al. of which was also not this thread's intent, for if it was I would state such, or would have presented the info via some other avenue.

That said, I'll now add [Debunked] to the thread's title in all fairly, and appreciate the leg-work done by others to drive that point home.

~Bruno Kucinskas

[basyang]

There are going to be a lot of people claiming to be the real deal satoshi but unless he can move a bitcoin from one of his wallets those claims are going to be rubbished.

Indeed, For sure its a scam because Satoshi is quiet about himself in the public and I do not think he will reveal and give his personal data to the public it can cause a hard time for him, if many people know him personally. Well, If Satoshi wants to have a private life then lets respect it and do not do anything that will destroy his image.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

DT's research is based on my thread containing the following post ...

I see, the timestamp observations, I saw that a while back.. and thought it was a smoking gun also, at first.

Its natural to get euphoric when one 'thinks' they have discovered 'Satoshi'
The next logical step is to announce the discovery.. right? Wrong!

During the euphoria one should stop and think, is this the right thing to do, to dox 'Satoshi' on a public forum?
What are the possible repercussions for this person?  Will I create another Dorian Nakamoto scenario if I am wrong and if I am right how will this effect the life of this person and their family.

I have performed stylometric analysis on many Satoshi candidates, including James, Hettinga, Metzer and that fraud Craig Wright.. (RAH comes close) But even if I hit the nail on the head I wouldn't dox him.

Perhaps what we should be doing is proving who IS NOT Satoshi, and I mean the likes of Craig Wright, Phil Wilson
Stylometric analysis on those two came back with a big zero.

I am happy to publicly announce my findings on who is NOT Satoshi, especially when they are frauds purporting to be Satoshi but I would never announce who Satoshi really is.

Its a no brainer that Craig Wright is a fraud a criminal and a sociopathic piece of garbage RUNNY SHIT, but I do think he has gained some inside info on who Satoshi is.  By fair means or foul he has access, I think this provides him with the confidence to pull off this con-job. Its clear he doxed himself, he manufactured the evidence the so-called 'insider' released to the media. He backdated posts/emails but made a few fatal mistakes. One of which relates to the email to Dave https://i.imgur.com/1O33fiz.png note the date of this first email. Information-defense.com was registered by Faketoshi AFTER that date. https://whois.domaintools.com/information-defense.com Anyway I am sure you have seen that.. and sorry for the rant, its just Faketoshi is on my hit-list at the moment, I really hate this guy. Funny coincidence, I used to live just a few blocks away from him in Sydney.. if only I knew that at that time

IMO doxing the good guys is a no-no but it should be open-season on exposing the bad guys like CSW .. maybe thats where our investigative efforts should be focussed on.

FTFY

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remnant has posted about reading a piece on a source I haven't checked that James Bowery stated he did all the coding for Mt. Gox.  I hadn't realized this, but it accounts for a post James had made on this board some years ago as jabowery about running some data checks on Mt. Gox.  It also goes a long way towards explaining why some personages unknown to me-- oldtimers here, have either begun to follow James on twitter, and/or have figured out, from their personal inside knowledge, he is Satoshi Nakamoto.

remnant is a really good man, as is James.  I've met him personally in both Estonia and Finland (though I knew him from VNNF for years, we'd never met till in Europe)... the former meeting during two of his separate visits to the country.  He is a trader, has stated to me he worked high up for two separate Jewish billionaires, but he is Irish-descent.  He is from the east coast.  I like him.  I used to, long ago, briefly wonder if he might be CIA.  But bitcoin had only begun; it was worthless...even though WN was on the government's radar.

Funny he thought James might have been paid in bitcoin for the Mt. Gox coding head-up.  I wonder if James didn't use some of the money I paid him to buy bitcoin.  A lot of us are on the hoarders' spectrum.  Me too.  I can live with that.  Just more interesting historical facts.

Might try and look up James post on "MR" remnant cites.

NOTE: remnant states the post he cites of James Bowery's was that James did the coding for ALL of the early bitcoin exchanges. It's really the cult aspects of all this which prevents so many of you from intellectually realizing (accepting) James Bowery is in fact Satoshi Nakamoto!

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Interesting stuff. I remember reading a post maybe on MR , long ago ,before the big run up last year- Bowery stating he did the coding for all the
early active exchanges ( e.g. Mt Gox). Not really something to boast about since the functionality of all these exchanges was, and still is, horrific.
I just recall thinking he must have been paid in BTC and should have made a large fortune if he didn't sell it all off along the way.

FWIW, I am looking to start buying BTC ~ 1500 .Expect prices in the 1000 -1200 range, ideally by this Summer. Looks like the next downleg to sub 3000 just started, I guess the ETH fork next week is the catalyst. Have to disagree about Gold; BTC and Gold are in direct competition for funds.They should not trade up or down together.

[doublespend timestamp]

Yes, as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivoli_Software went from 89 to 13, it's James' professional era.

I didn't know James was on the cryptography board 'metzdowd'.  Hadn't heard of it till now.

I don't think you were speaking about remnant's citing the board 'MR', whatever that is.  remnant isn't a cryptographer, so far as I know.  He is an adult lifetime professional trader.

As I've expressed in this thread, and James cleanly and fully refused to admit-- he sent me ten bitcoins on Jan 12, 2009-- almost ten years ago precisely in a few hours.  The coins are still unspent.  I have honestly and accurately stated the address is mine.
That is all so both by my declaration and fact.
 
I hope you can see, audiTT, how meaningless your claims about who Satoshi is not are to me.  Because I know he is James Bowery.  I know from these personal facts.

Here is a bit of speculation.  satoshinakamotoblog.com is anonymously registered in UK.  I see it has a Proud Boys Scottish Gavin story on it, and James has published favorably on them on either his twitter or Facebook or both.  Now there is this bitcoin mining story.  Looks at a glance to be a wordpress site with API's.  James is, as you've read under Satoshi's and his own hand, highly political on economics, banking, and the world scene.  He may be delivering news under his real fake name, which is kind of nifty.
https://satoshinakamotoblog.com/a-look-at-some-of-the-next-generation-mining-rigs-available-today  
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Oh, the first Satoshi contact, preceding all.
https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/tag/emails/

2. DIGITAL EVIDENCE
prograd-dip-digital-forensics-1

Chapter 2 – Digital Evidence

Satoshi showed up on Internet for the first time at cryptography email list. It was August 2008 when he sent emails to Adam Back and Wei Dai using the email address satoshi@anonymousspeech.com

http://www.gwern.net/docs/2008-nakamoto#emails

From: “Satoshi Nakamoto” <satoshi@anonymousspeech.com>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 4:38 PM
To: “Wei Dai” <weidai@ibiblio.org>
Cc: “Satoshi Nakamoto” <satoshi@anonymousspeech.com>
Subject: Citation of your b-money page

The emails sent to Adam and Wei were related to the upcoming paper on Bitcoin – A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System.

On 31st October 2008, Satoshi posted his first email to a cryptography mailing list

http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-October/014810.html

Satoshi Nakamoto satoshi at vistomail.com
Fri Oct 31 14:10:00 EDT 2008

He used satoshi@vistomail.com email address to post.

Satoshi replied to James Donald, Hal Finney, Ray Dillinger and others in November 2008
(luls, sockpuppet to sockpuppet was James! -doublespend timestamp)

http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-November/date.html

The mailing list moderator Perry Metzger warned Satoshi and others as Bitcoin was related to money.

http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-November/014824.html

ADMIN: no money politics, please
Perry E. Metzger perry at piermont.com
Fri Nov 7 12:32:23 EST 2008

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Even audiTT agrees James A. Donald is and always was James A. Bowery:

Yes, the James A Donald on Metzdowd is James A Bowery, that I already know as a fact, as would many of us, so you got that right.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5084077.msg49068571#msg49068571

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I don't know everything about James' life.  I recall reading some early board or list Satoshi had appeared on-- I think in August of 2008, very approximately when Soren Renner who now lives in Maine had introduced us via Skype. Name 'metzdowd' didn't stick.  No biggie as it pertains to the salient forensic facts:

1. 'Satoshi' digitally talks to James Bowery-- who even you admit and agree was using the James A. Donald sockpuppet fake name.

2. James Bowery is volunteer or 'volunteer paid' coder for all the very earliest bitcoin exchanges, incl. Mt. Gox, but apparently keeps this quiet, or maybe uses another fake name.

3. James uses Armory with Segwit.

4. Mt. Gox coder James posts some type of posing technically naive post on his first foray as himself onto this forum which he built to look like Stormfront.

5. James cites his having had a friendship with Nick Szabo for 27 years.

6. James recommends Monero, which has very high tranfer fees (and is therefore impractical for low volume holders) a few years ago.

7.  Super-coder James put up a hokey 'My Life' page which shows he drives a 1993 Saturn.  Kinda like Shirley Q. Liquor's friend, Watusi Jenkins.

[doublespend timestamp]

Read for detail.  Not 'in' 2009, but on January 12th, 2009-- ten years ago to this very day, even allowing for the 8 hr or so time difference.  It wss 2 hrs and 32 minutes after the transmission of 10 bitcoins to Hal Finney.

Even cop detectives with IQs of 100 or 110 are trained to realize presence (in this case as James A. Donald and the helpful, overseeing coder of virtually all early bitcoin exchages, including Mt. Gox) establishes correlation, though not specifically causation.

Note that James, while being the coder in the background with all the hobnobbers on all early bitcoin exchanges, did not show his real name or face back on this forum (the one he himself hoisted) till several years later.  Why would that be, considering his abiding interesy and helpfulness to all things bitcoin?  He also made no mention of the word 'bitcoin' on his tens of thousands of words on Majority Rights forum.

I feel your pain; many of you young and old hoarding spectrum cultists are in emotional shock a 'Nazi'
(to use the current Chinese Cultural Revolution-like defaming parlance) really invented, and has been completely behind the scenes all along, these ten long years, of your darling precious bitcoin.

[doublespend timestamp]

Read for detail.  Not 'in' 2009, but on January 12th, 2009-- ten years ago to this very day, even allowing for the 8 hr or so time difference.  It wss 2 hrs and 32 minutes after the transmission of 10 bitcoins to Hal Finney.

Even cop detectives with IQs of 100 or 110 are trained to realize presence (in this case as James A. Donald and the helpful, overseeing coder of virtually all early bitcoin exchages, including Mt. Gox) establishes correlation, though not specifically causation.

Note that James, while being the coder in the background with all the hobnobbers on all early bitcoin exchanges, did not show his real name or face back on this forum (the one he himself hoisted) till several years later.  Why would that be, considering his abiding interest and helpfulness to all things bitcoin?  He also made no mention of the word 'bitcoin' on his tens of thousands of words on Majority Rights forum.

I feel your pain; many of you young and old hoarding spectrum cultists are in emotional shock a 'Nazi'
(to use the current Chinese Cultural Revolution-like defaming parlance) really invented, and has been completely behind the scenes all along, these ten long years, of your darling precious bitcoin.

The number one mistake many amateur researchers make is they start their enquiries with a preconception or a gut feeling.
Your preconception was the (alleged) 10 BTC sent to you by James. You then found some minor cooincidences and interesting bits n' pieces and weaved together a story with a touch of confirmation bias.

Thats not how you research.
You have overlooked the most important part, the stylometric analysis of all of Satoshi's emails and posts and compared them to James.

For if you had an even just focussed on the contractions you would find that Satoshi used the following quite often...

You're
you're
we’re
they’ll
aren't
it’d
i’ve
won’t
hadn’t
that’s
they’re
there’ll
that’ll
wouldn’t
we'll
you've
weren't
it’ll
here’s

And James used very few, infrequently from 2002 to present day.

James Bowery's 18 usages of your rare "you're".  ( I think this and virtually all your cited contractions are extremely common in standard newspeak English.  Additionally, if the Aussie and NZ clues you cite are standard Commonwealth (I'm dual American/Canadian myself) usages such as "colour", big deal-- anyone can add a "u" etc. in a weak attempt at a ruse. Satoshi even gave that up after a few "example" usages as I recall reading.):
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/ba1fc1ade41e0c481f7ccb175c793295/

James Bowery's 72 usages of your rare "we're":
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/10d20f05a2d8381e087efcfca2990e61/

Jame's Bowery's 35 usages of your rare "they'll":
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/c03f94445ea96a75c2fbc3b4ae0a4c2c/

James Bowery's 30 usages of your rare "aren't":
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/fc70884a954715f442496a3be7c4fdb6/

James Bowery 93 usages of "it'd" on Majority Rights:
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/07f3d936fd0497e4d6c9b3a3c7fb994d/

James Bowery's 238 usages of "I've" (not with a small "i", but James could have without much difficulty faked that to lend Satoshi quirkiness-- just don't hit the caps key).
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/fb8be7bfc2fa16d3bb1dfce0840f71fc/

31 "won't":
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/5198a4b3c9676c0bd55cad031777a8ae/

18 "hadn't":
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/ccea32fba02a3b0276017db1f96323ec/

James Bowery's 707 usages of "that's":
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/6fd178189c5e0f1b6cfdc8f29cb99301/

James Bowery's 93 usages of your rare "they're":
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/1cc5cfcbf0ba2172286d6259217377ed/

No usages of "there'll".

158 "that'll":
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/892b4962fa9f7a4be2fd1b89fe7b88dc/

55 "wouldn't":
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/ceefebb21698a21cc6809b4538c8cfe2/

158 "we'll":
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/601d8001b95bcafe17a3607257a22594/

27 "you've":
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/524a5403242c6af85398f761c75bfa31/

33 weren't:
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/03aa06e1b1f196d7830582dfe8383802/

158 "it'll":
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/60bc1ad1604d92ae1b2b57add01d144a/

96 "here's":
https://majorityrights.com/search/results/f2bba0ff5ae07a829a0e0e0290f579d3/

audiTT Inspector Clouseau Sir, is English your second, third or fifth language?

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I feel your pain; many of you young and old hoarding spectrum cultists are in emotional shock a 'Nazi'
(to use the current Chinese Cultural Revolution-like defaming parlance) really invented, and has been completely behind the scenes all along, these ten long years, of your darling precious bitcoin.

And finally, you have revealed your true motive in bringing up all this nonsense, its to discredit JAB
Seems you also harbour some sour grapes for our 'darling Bitcoin' as well..

I think we are done here.

The word is "finished"; chickens, turkeys and ducks are "done".

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZNwBtqCSTE

[ibminer]

Well that was ~12 minutes of my life wasted...  

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Well that was ~12 minutes of my life wasted...  

Will this GIF also suffice? (with apologies to dt)

I'm just gonna leave this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Cobb (having now read it, I wish there were white monkeys dancing to Riverdance)

"The hell you say! How the fuck am I a black white supremacist?"

[AGD]

Well that was ~12 minutes of my life wasted...  

Will this GIF also suffice? (with apologies to dt)

I'm just gonna leave this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Cobb (having now read it, I wish there were white monkeys dancing to Riverdance)

"The hell you say! How the fuck am I a black white supremacist?"

Monkeys actually are white beyond their fur, just like ... ah never mind.