1933 (111,114 BTC) moving

[joesmoe2012]

Sad part is that after this leak, someone really could know who the person is associated with that address.

[1715638625]

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[686f646c]

Looks like a MtGox customer moving their funds. The BTC withdrawals from MtGox to the Main BTC address https://blockchain.info/address/1933phfhK3ZgFQNLGSDXvqCn32k2buXY8a are listed below (from the leaks).

The early adopter sitting on $70m in BTC is probably shitting himself after knowing the hacker got all his personal details, passport scan, home address etc. He knows he's going to be a HUGE target for criminals.

It is also possible some gunmen were already sent to his home address and threatened to harm him and his family unless he transferred the bitcoins to the criminals. I hope this is not the case otherwise criminals now control all those bitcoins.  


b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,e70f4a61-b6d2-43e0-aebb-7472ad034904,"2011-07-04 17:53:45",withdraw,-2841.45
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,08134fa1-52c7-4c4a-9916-5a78a7344ec5,"2011-07-05 15:09:19",withdraw,-1495.5
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,f8e186b0-d8ee-4064-be64-054258ca631c,"2011-07-05 19:00:10",withdraw,-1495.49999999
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,e5888c99-fc43-4bf0-82f0-9daa5fbbb28f,"2011-07-05 22:59:49",withdraw,-1530.98062227
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,426a0007-3797-4c81-8e37-f8fa2e835ed6,"2011-07-23 22:37:24",withdraw,-727.33370629
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,b02c1405-9cce-4b77-b7e5-237515027252,"2011-08-02 04:17:27",withdraw,-1
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,2308d9b6-1ee6-457f-966a-c198237cf449,"2011-08-02 04:45:24",withdraw,-1
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,7e128c5c-1e88-45f1-a17d-aded6c4b16e4,"2011-08-02 04:46:23",withdraw,-1776
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,168a83ac-a3a8-4051-b687-7b6f3bdb2dcd,"2011-08-02 12:36:03",withdraw,-232.1959
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,49c6387c-5d2d-4d42-b523-5c8844a16a97,"2011-08-02 22:32:58",withdraw,-933.91
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,1c361be6-e6eb-4040-b81a-e9386ca91f7e,"2011-08-03 01:23:48",withdraw,-1043.13305585
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,5ad790f6-0c3c-4cfc-8e63-e57e50342fa7,"2011-08-06 14:52:14",withdraw,-100
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,04f33017-b0a6-4c2d-b924-96fde5323e5c,"2011-08-06 14:54:49",withdraw,-5419.53237126
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,26d4c3a8-2211-466f-94d8-eb8dda1e7180,"2011-10-27 12:50:14",withdraw,-15000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,ef562979-e895-4932-82ee-530274d03b75,"2011-10-28 17:56:37",withdraw,-50
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,cfe0a762-0ae9-49b1-98ee-9594dcee823a,"2011-10-28 17:59:13",withdraw,-1913.98495583
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,fb883cef-040c-4ec1-80f3-da50f5c1eedc,"2011-12-04 06:52:58",withdraw,-0.4995
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,8a4b61f5-bb43-437d-82d4-d231bcec77ae,"2011-12-20 19:01:54",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,9fab3a11-0df4-45b4-bb56-ccbf25297e70,"2011-12-20 19:02:10",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,6bfce163-1133-45b7-8c58-8645f204f7a7,"2011-12-20 19:02:27",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,ce39ef5c-3657-4d92-a4d4-b3dbb21d86b3,"2011-12-20 19:02:52",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,e5562d1b-6932-4384-b5f9-debcfb03e911,"2011-12-20 19:03:14",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,10d69fbb-9f00-43e8-b445-5ccac706a9f1,"2011-12-20 19:03:24",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,61633710-e0be-4743-b8e2-945c2b302983,"2011-12-20 20:07:48",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,88146b9d-aceb-485c-b97b-d9b92e8a76fb,"2011-12-20 20:08:03",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,02802191-765b-4785-85fe-495f0742852f,"2011-12-20 20:08:12",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,3ad45bfe-69bf-439e-8d81-110c5b496b5c,"2011-12-20 20:08:25",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,e5beca8d-503b-4030-839c-b84d8490c369,"2011-12-20 20:08:39",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,01925733-af3d-4678-91dc-3044dcb567c4,"2011-12-20 20:08:48",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,206142fe-c6e2-44dc-9056-4dadd6561168,"2011-12-20 20:08:58",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,c03a05f6-87cb-4f96-9a96-d3b4de6f820f,"2011-12-20 20:09:15",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,3a1848c9-6dbd-40e5-aa6e-7cd1e35b273d,"2011-12-20 20:23:54",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,3cb1dc9d-a1cc-40c2-a684-30ced7a69f5d,"2011-12-20 20:24:07",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,34848e93-b754-4e0c-a1cd-b64f0932fcf4,"2011-12-20 20:24:18",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,027cc3b3-bcbd-4291-a254-5c896424e181,"2011-12-20 20:24:27",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,2ac84f8c-ca47-466a-a23c-ed70d9775341,"2011-12-20 20:24:38",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,f4bd5345-d519-4f12-8283-b46a4270eea0,"2011-12-20 20:24:50",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,ef2ce22a-f0c7-4eee-a196-329b3c5757bc,"2011-12-20 20:25:00",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,397a5929-f8b0-4241-a8ff-b8870d5faf61,"2011-12-20 20:25:10",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,53835d67-04c3-4914-8db4-d2c6dfa7f598,"2011-12-20 20:26:51",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,e74837c9-2be2-437b-8bb5-5d14de0952a2,"2011-12-20 20:27:00",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,234018b0-d8d4-452c-b10d-05ba50e9b1cb,"2011-12-20 20:27:55",withdraw,-1000
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,30f3abfe-733b-423b-92ee-087a62a84182,"2011-12-21 20:36:51",withdraw,-553.22580606
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,34fa39dd-8d36-4c28-ba99-d1e2d06f54be,"2012-08-25 20:52:05",withdraw,-3.12606703
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,5dea8eda-2593-4371-907e-daa51714dc93,"2012-09-29 18:42:41",withdraw,-1
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,82587589-b4b5-48d6-bf9b-c395f894c285,"2012-11-15 00:04:25",withdraw,-2070.69339415
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,95989adc-fe52-49ad-8a38-d73412c55ba9,"2012-11-15 04:51:58",withdraw,-3335.14918175
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,c8087502-b81b-4861-b707-b9556e591334,"2012-11-15 06:30:16",withdraw,-94.1574241
b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,72c1b538-8e56-48c0-9f45-6bf9701ae51a,"2012-11-15 23:41:01",withdraw,-2321.97214518

i thought they were multiple users first. i cant seem to find any trades by this user, and it seems they dont have any balance left on the site

[TrollboxChamp]

Wait that's horrific.

If you go to the address https://blockchain.info/address/1933phfhK3ZgFQNLGSDXvqCn32k2buXY8a and scroll down, there is a message sent at 2014-01-24 01:44:41

Public Note: send 100,000 BTC to this address 1Ggta18qjjptCiAYwsQB3dmVphuu39aNHp, or i will kill you. I know how you are...

Anybody could send that. If they were serious i would think theyd atleast send a whole BTC. lol... fractions of a btc dont really speak volumes

[beaconpcguru]

Another Karp account consolidating with the rest, though these seem to be stopping on 5k splits with a chunk of ~1,166 ish going on its lonesome.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Wait that's horrific.

If you go to the address https://blockchain.info/address/1933phfhK3ZgFQNLGSDXvqCn32k2buXY8a and scroll down, there is a message sent at 2014-01-24 01:44:41

Public Note: send 100,000 BTC to this address 1Ggta18qjjptCiAYwsQB3dmVphuu39aNHp, or i will kill you. I know how you are...

That's disappointing although for 100,000 BTC I think the address on the receiving end is the one in the most danger lol

[lorix]

Another Karp account consolidating with the rest, though these seem to be stopping on 5k splits with a chunk of ~1,166 ish going on its lonesome.

Not necessarily. It can't be a coincidence that this happens immediately following the internal database leak from Gox - see thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=508162.0

It's quite possible Mr Whale here is concerned with being publicly identified from information contained in the leak, or at least a risk from anything they redacted from it but still in the hacker's hands.

I'm not a data extraction expert, is anyone here able to cross-check the 1933phfhK3ZgFQNLGSDXvqCn32k2buXY8a address as well as any addresses that were significant inputs to it to see if this aligns with any of the data there?

If you can - thanks in advance.

[RandyMagnum]

Here's the updated path: (linked instead b/c the image is large)

https://i.imgur.com/iwZHSSV.jpg

[samurai1200]

^ Was just doing that myself. Interesting how its hitting a couple different country's addresses. How does blockchained know the country? IP correlation?

[blueberry]

There was a large withdrawal of 15,000 BTC which could only have been made from an account with "Trusted" Status.

For trusted status, physical copies of the documents must be sent by mail and they must be certified by an apostille.

b169b66e-023c-462e-8ae4-9cb2db3f2219,26d4c3a8-2211-466f-94d8-eb8dda1e7180,"2011-10-27 12:50:14",withdraw,-15000

Another Karp account consolidating with the rest, though these seem to be stopping on 5k splits with a chunk of ~1,166 ish going on its lonesome.

It is possible, but why would Mark Karpeles need a MtGox account to move bitcoins? Or could this be Mark's personal account?

I still think it is more likely to be an early adopter who is concerned about being a target now that their private details are being passed around criminals. Or that the criminals already got the bitcoins through coercion at the individuals private residence.

Anyone who has withdrawn thousands of bitcoins from MtGox should split the bitcoins into many different wallets and then send them to another exchange such as btc-e and then withdraw them to encrypted wallets and hide/bury them. This will break trail through the blockchain.

[RandyMagnum]

Just blech.  The whole thing continues to be irritating.  I was a verified, trusted user, but exited last year.  My holdings are safe, but I'm assuming my information is in a digital pile with everyone else, waiting to be sold to the highest bidder; all the while we have what looks like Mark moving close to 300,000 coins around after declaring bankruptcy.

If the final story culminates in Bitcoin Foundation involvement, shame on me I suppose.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

https://blockchain.info/address/1HoTTpCYwAkoR3FCvoRT8WM8UPosYh3S6J

[StarfishPrime]

Very high probability the 111K is a gox controlled address. At least two gox deposits are confirmed to have been consolidated into this addr.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Amazingly, this thread is not being indexed, ergo no Google crawl.

<meta name="robots" content="noindex" />

[ivroer]

Amazingly, this thread is not being indexed, ergo no Google crawl.

<meta name="robots" content="noindex" />

Well spotted sir, but what would you speculate the motivation is behind that?
Also, am I right to assume only mods and/or admin can set this meta tag on a thread?

[joesmoe2012]

Amazingly, this thread is not being indexed, ergo no Google crawl.

<meta name="robots" content="noindex" />

Well spotted sir, but what would you speculate the motivation is behind that?
Also, am I right to assume only mods and/or admin can set this meta tag on a thread?

I think its assigned on every thread isnt it?

[StarfishPrime]

Just blech.  The whole thing continues to be irritating.  I was a verified, trusted user, but exited last year.  My holdings are safe, but I'm assuming my information is in a digital pile with everyone else, waiting to be sold to the highest bidder; all the while we have what looks like Mark moving close to 300,000 coins around after declaring bankruptcy.

If the final story culminates in Bitcoin Foundation involvement, shame on me I suppose.

The truth will probably be stranger than anything we can imagine right now. My guess is that the 311k coins that have been moving are still safely under trustee control.

Far more unsettling for MtGox users in general should be the fact that a large portion of blockchain has now been mapped directly to specific users (or can easily be), with ID scans, addresses etc. and full trading histories, balances, etc. The entire data dump was supposedly sold at least once - likely several times - for a paltry 100btc.

The Target card skimming scandal is nothing compared to this.

[joesmoe2012]

sold at least once - likely several times - for a paltry 100btc.

He was even willing to sell parts of it for 10BTC if people didn't want the whole thing.

[ivroer]

Amazingly, this thread is not being indexed, ergo no Google crawl.

<meta name="robots" content="noindex" />

Well spotted sir, but what would you speculate the motivation is behind that?
Also, am I right to assume only mods and/or admin can set this meta tag on a thread?

I think its assigned on every thread isnt it?

Nah, most of the threads are indexed by search engines. Go have a look at the source of just about any other thread page, no robots meta tag...

[joesmoe2012]

Amazingly, this thread is not being indexed, ergo no Google crawl.

<meta name="robots" content="noindex" />

Well spotted sir, but what would you speculate the motivation is behind that?
Also, am I right to assume only mods and/or admin can set this meta tag on a thread?

I think its assigned on every thread isnt it?

Nah, most of the threads are indexed by search engines. Go have a look at the source of just about any other thread page, no robots meta tag...

Odd, so I guess the mod's must have a way of enabling it on individual threads.

What makes this thread worthy of such a tag?

[StarfishPrime]

The truth will probably be stranger than anything we can imagine right now. My guess is that the 311k coins that have been moving are still safely under trustee control.
...

Amazingly, this thread is not being indexed, ergo no Google crawl.

<meta name="robots" content="noindex" />

Perhaps I spoke too soon. Not quite so certain now. Good one...