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March 05, 2019, 05:02:19 AM
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A wise investor doesn't just believe with engaging and attracting words. If they are offering something beyond the limjt, then it is probably some kind of tricks and want fraudster to trap you. There is no easy money. Investing in cryptocurrency is also tough.
Investing on new crypto project is always risky than compared to the altcoin and bitcoin investing since we know and can have some idea about what for people were using it but new project with just jopeful words might not convince many which results in failure of the project,so you could end up losing.

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March 05, 2019, 05:09:58 AM
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A wise investor doesn't just believe with engaging and attracting words. If they are offering something beyond the limjt, then it is probably some kind of tricks and want fraudster to trap you. There is no easy money. Investing in cryptocurrency is also tough.
Investing on new crypto project is always risky than compared to the altcoin and bitcoin investing since we know and can have some idea about what for people were using it but new project with just jopeful words might not convince many which results in failure of the project,so you could end up losing.
but if we are good at analyzing, we can certainly make a lot of money. experience is needed for that. by knowing the rules set, we will not get lost when investing, and not lose money in vain

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March 05, 2019, 05:58:42 AM
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Being an investor it is a must to consider various factors associated with it. Most being the project, it's product, the backing team, partners associated with the project, funding team, public and private sale targets. Such a way more and more market values need to be considered, without which only on luck an user can invest what he afford to loss.
There are indeed common factors should really be considered first as an investor.There might be some other ways to validate things
but the goal is still one thing which is to make profit on any investment we are engage on. Knowing the project potential at first isnt really enough as
been said strong and dedicated team plus into its transparency.
Everything can be decide when things already happened, we can't assured that after researching and studying such projects will definitely give us assurance of succeeding with our investment, there's still factors that will comes up and delayed or prohibits the success of any projects that has
been introduced.

Be very observant and always use your instinct before placing your money.
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March 05, 2019, 06:10:51 AM
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A friend of mine got into one of these Crypto Ponzi schemes a year ago and he wanted to leave his job to market this full-time. He got a fixed return of 15% on his investment and huge referral bonuses for people that he introduced to this. I explained Bitcoin trading and Alt coin trading to him and how fixed returns on investments like this was a scam, but he ignored all my warnings.

The "Investment" / "Ponzi scheme" collapsed 3 months after our debate and he lost more than 90% of his initial capital investment. He also lost a lot of friends and even family that got burnt too. Now he blames the Bitcoin price for everything that went wrong with this.  Roll Eyes

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March 05, 2019, 06:59:04 AM
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A wise investor doesn't just believe with engaging and attracting words. If they are offering something beyond the limjt, then it is probably some kind of tricks and want fraudster to trap you. There is no easy money. Investing in cryptocurrency is also tough.
Investing on new crypto project is always risky than compared to the altcoin and bitcoin investing since we know and can have some idea about what for people were using it but new project with just jopeful words might not convince many which results in failure of the project,so you could end up losing.

Yup. I do remember my friend invested around $1000 on a scheme where they cheated him that this coin would yield him more profits. The coin name is "Onecoin" and you know what happened to Onecoin. Hence either choose the best ICO after complete study or just go with existing coin with good growth and volume.

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March 05, 2019, 07:03:42 AM
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This is a translation of the original article located here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5058626.msg47345560#msg47345560

Friends, let me tell you about one amazing rule that will allow you to save a lot of money. Now on the forum there are unpleasant trowels about trust managers who have been turned into fraudsters. It pushed me to share my thoughts. Please do not take this as a desire to teach you life. This is not true. I will simply tell what I adhere to myself and hope that this will help you too. So let's formulate this most important rule:
 
  If someone offers you to invest in something profitable and at the same time offers a fixed percentage of profit per month (especially, and especially if this percentage is significant), then you have a fraudster. Stay away from him

No one will ever be able to provide you with a fixed percentage of profit per month for any substantial long-term period. No one, never for anything. Is that the Lord God, but he is unlikely to do it). You may have a reasonable question: "Why?"
There are many reasons here. I do not know them all, but I will give only those that seem reasonable to me.
1. Markets are constantly changing. They change in such a way that the profit can get a minority to the detriment of the majority. And the minority is constantly changing. This does not mean that you cannot be successful in the long run. You can. But in the short term ALL traders periodically either sit in drawdowns or in losses. And sooner or later it can be so serious that such grief - the ruler of other people's money simply cannot physically pay the declared interest to its depositors. In this case, scam comes and sobering.
2. Argument from the contrary. Imagine the impossible. What really is a miracle on earth is a trader capable of consistently making at least 10 percent of profit per month on any long-term basis. I hasten to convince you that such a genius of trade trustees of their funds are not needed. Using even quite an average initial deposit of, say, a couple of thousand US dollars, this wizard of the market can make a fantastic fortune in a reasonable time. Which will suffice not only to him until the end of his life, but his great-grandchildren will remain. It's all about the so-called compound interest.
The formula of compound interest is googled in a couple of minutes. We take a calculator and count.

Here is the compound percentage formula for our rule:
 X (1+ (Y% / 100)) to the power n
where x is the initial deposit amount, Y% is the monthly interest rate in percent, n is the deposit term in months.
Suppose the initial deposit amount is $ 2,000. Percentage per month promised to you - 10. Contribution - 12 months. How much will we get from such trading in a year?
 We consider: 2000 (1+ (10/100) and we build all this to the 12th degree (!!!). It turns out: ~ 6276.85. Not enough?
And where are we to hurry? Wait, do not rush, everything is still ahead, we are a miracle - traders and do not forget that we are starting from a relatively modest amount, but we have already done roughly X 3.13 in a year. Let's look at how much our capital will grow in the following years:
The second year_6276 X 3.13 = 19643, 88. Not bad at all, right?
Third year: 61485 (here I’ll further round the numbers, removing the values ​​after the comma, so the real numbers will be even higher)
Fourth: 192449
Fifth: 602365
Sixth: 1885404. As we see our miracle - the trader has exceeded one million in just the sixth year of trading. Once again I ask: why should he mess with depositors? Well, okay, let's go on.
Seventh: 5901317.
Eighth:> 18,000,000
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In a couple of years there will be a billion, and a trillion dollars this trader will earn within fifteen years. Further consider not see the point. I think from the forum bitcointower, he will leave much earlier)

Thanks a lot! Very insightful!
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I have learnt a lot from this submission.
 The information provided is of immense benefit to me and I believe to a large extent other novice like me.
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March 05, 2019, 08:11:25 AM
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A wise investor doesn't just believe with engaging and attracting words. If they are offering something beyond the limjt, then it is probably some kind of tricks and want fraudster to trap you. There is no easy money. Investing in cryptocurrency is also tough.
Investing on new crypto project is always risky than compared to the altcoin and bitcoin investing since we know and can have some idea about what for people were using it but new project with just jopeful words might not convince many which results in failure of the project,so you could end up losing.
but if we are good at analyzing, we can certainly make a lot of money. experience is needed for that. by knowing the rules set, we will not get lost when investing, and not lose money in vain
Many people who are good and analyzing the project and made millions in 2017 even fot failed at the bear market so actually the price of crypto influences the new project as well so good project need to be launched at the right time or it may also get failed.

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March 05, 2019, 08:50:41 AM
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As someone whose only experience "trading" is buying some alts in an exchange, I know it would be hard to have a consistent profit. Sure someone trading stocks may be able to spread the risk by taking money from multiple investors and diversify but it's no assurance that nothing will go wrong and all the money will not go up in flames.

If have money I can invest I'd rather just buy and hold BTC or loan it out to people I know.

TLDR: don't trust anyone offering you a fixed rate of return, if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is. Great advice but very much over-complicated here.


A fixed return is possible if the creditor is absorving the risk.

Creditor runs risky investments using your money, but gives you fixed returns in exchange for lower yield. This is fine as long as there's oversight over liquidity to guarantee the fund manager didn't lose it all - it'd then become a ponzi.

Your correct but a lot of these scammers offer unrealistic rates that will never be reached.  If anyone had such a sound strategy they could come up with at least a small amount of money themselves and grow it exponentially without needing outside funding sources.

But of course they'll just say that they may have come up with a good idea but they are too broke and have no access to credit to accomplish it themselves.
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March 05, 2019, 09:06:41 AM
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A wise investor doesn't just believe with engaging and attracting words. If they are offering something beyond the limjt, then it is probably some kind of tricks and want fraudster to trap you. There is no easy money. Investing in cryptocurrency is also tough.
Investing on new crypto project is always risky than compared to the altcoin and bitcoin investing since we know and can have some idea about what for people were using it but new project with just jopeful words might not convince many which results in failure of the project,so you could end up losing.
but if we are good at analyzing, we can certainly make a lot of money. experience is needed for that. by knowing the rules set, we will not get lost when investing, and not lose money in vain
Many people who are good and analyzing the project and made millions in 2017 even fot failed at the bear market so actually the price of crypto influences the new project as well so good project need to be launched at the right time or it may also get failed.
I think those who succeeded in analyzing the projects in 2017 are very different from the 2018 project and in 2019 there have been too many projects created so that investors feel bored because there are no good project developments that make many investors reluctant to invest anymore that making a lot of projects lately failed.

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Rules that are very extraordinary useful for beginners who want to invest. But, from the calculations you do maybe for people who have large capital, is very easy, what about the small financiers?
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I think those who succeeded in analyzing the projects in 2017 are very different from the 2018 project and in 2019 there have been too many projects created so that investors feel bored because there are no good project developments that make many investors reluctant to invest anymore that making a lot of projects lately failed.
Really they didn't find good project in 2018? But what about the project of 2017,how much of them got into bigger level?

So all of the people were going with the flow not basd on analyse they just trust the words given by project team and investing for the short term profits.

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March 05, 2019, 01:34:53 PM
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TLDR: don't trust anyone offering you a fixed rate of return, if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is. Great advice but very much over-complicated here.


A fixed return is possible if the creditor is absorving the risk.

Creditor runs risky investments using your money, but gives you fixed returns in exchange for lower yield. This is fine as long as there's oversight over liquidity to guarantee the fund manager didn't lose it all - it'd then become a ponzi.
Even if there is a possibility to earn it can’t be fixed the dynamic model more trustful then the same amount  you will get every period of payment that they promised


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Thank you this beautiful and informative post. Unfortunately for people are greedy, and people who say they will give a high profit per month they know it.. peoples give a few months profit, then they lose everything at once...

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Hey OP, you have a very nice post up there and I must say thank you for sharing.
The only way not to make great losses is to daily be on a look out for guidelines/rules applicable to trading. I do this search daily and I am always opened to learning and in this process I  have learnt that no investment is easy and all investments are risky, just that some investment are more risky, so the best rule is to only invest what I am willing to lose.

I don’t borrow or commit much money on an investment no matter how promising it may look
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March 08, 2019, 09:48:15 PM
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Rules that are very extraordinary useful for beginners who want to invest. But, from the calculations you do maybe for people who have large capital, is very easy, what about the small financiers?
This forum of investment is equally for large capital people and low one because this is open forum no restriction to invest small amount of money or high amount of money, according to me if someone want big profit they can invest small capital but for long term and who wants quick profit they will have to invest high amount of capital, but at right time.
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Thank you this beautiful and informative post. Unfortunately for people are greedy, and people who say they will give a high profit per month they know it.. peoples give a few months profit, then they lose everything at once...
Just like a ponzi scheme investment who promise you a big returns and yet they failed to do so. Though this is a great rule, and a very helpful for every newbies. Investors whether you’re small or big still need to be more careful since right now, many fake projects are out in the market and scamming people. Don’t believe to any promises in cryptomarket there is no sure profit at all.
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Thank you this beautiful and informative post. Unfortunately for people are greedy, and people who say they will give a high profit per month they know it.. peoples give a few months profit, then they lose everything at once...
Just like a ponzi scheme investment who promise you a big returns and yet they failed to do so. Though this is a great rule, and a very helpful for every newbies. Investors whether you’re small or big still need to be more careful since right now, many fake projects are out in the market and scamming people. Don’t believe to any promises in cryptomarket there is no sure profit at all.
therefore it is necessary to have accuracy in choosing a project. although many are like you are talking about, but not all are like that, many are good projects, and have healthy development

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March 09, 2019, 08:29:11 AM
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That is a great truth!  We should not expect too much from our investment and when interest look too good to be truth then we have to be careful no matter who is promoting it.  The person may not get money to pay you any amount that is above the worthwhile interest.
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March 09, 2019, 12:52:32 PM
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I think those who succeeded in analyzing the projects in 2017 are very different from the 2018 project and in 201

there's no difference between those years  . if a person is smart in analyzing projects  , he can always choose a good project no matter what year or time . when it comes to rules , i think the is only one rule that all investor must follow and that is to buy low sell high   but some investors are just hard headed . they dont follow that simply golden rule  . they have come up with thier own rule which is unofficial and if they loose they blame crypto  .
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