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December 29, 2018, 10:24:15 AM
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Big update:
There is the list of documents, which i send to support service of HolyTransaction:

  • Passport
  • Driver lisence
  • Proof of adress
  • Proof of residence
  • Debit card statement
  • Notarized copy of passport
  • Notarized copy of driver lisence
  • Notarized copy of proof of adress
  • Notarized copy of proof of residence
  • Sworn translation of passport in english
  • Sworn translation of driver lisence in english
  • Sworn translation of proof of adress in english
  • Sworn translation of proof of residence in english

All this documents were in PDF (scanned) and JPG (photo).


@HolyTransaction
If you will reject my verification with these documents - it will be considered as scam and i will act accordingly to this.
My ticket is unsolved for 50 days for now.
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December 29, 2018, 11:27:26 AM
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Lol at this point you could just go in their office in person, if they have any remaining doubt
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December 29, 2018, 11:40:47 AM
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ugh , seems like every crypto service is selectively scamming.  Whenever they get a deposit of around 100k or higher they decide to just keep it.   These services make it insanely easy to put your money in but taking it out is a different story....

I hope you get your money back but it will be an extreme uphill battle.


Yes it is an uphill battle but as long as people gather around the victims and support them then it is not an impossible task to get the money returned.

The thing these selective scammers dislike the most is when they mess with the wrong person and then begin to receive negative publicity which in-turn affects cash flow from users they have no intention of scamming. That is when they are stuck because they want to return the crypto to those they scammed hoping the negative publicity will stop but want to save face as well by not accepting they were selective scamming.

If we all get behind the victims we will be able to add weight to their cause and hopefully the scammers will return the crypto to its rightful owner sooner rather than later.

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December 29, 2018, 05:20:42 PM
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One of these days these type of scammers are going to mess with the wrong person and end up dead when they get caught. 
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December 30, 2018, 01:37:17 PM
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update: still no reply from HolyTransaction
also i found the facebook page running by Franco Simonetti - https://www.facebook.com/BlockchainEduIT/
feel free to ask him anything about his scumy things Smiley
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December 30, 2018, 02:27:10 PM
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While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

being in the business since 2014 doesn't mean u cant scam

As said to bL4nkcode, we can look only at the evidence presented. HT says he is in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity and OP has provided nothing to refute this.

I wonder why OP is not posting anything about his bitcoins, not even a txhash of his alleged deposit.
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December 30, 2018, 02:33:13 PM
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While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

being in the business since 2014 doesn't mean u cant scam

As said to bL4nkcode, we can look only at the evidence presented. HT says he is in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity and OP has provided nothing to refute this.

I wonder why OP is not posting anything about his bitcoins, not even a txhash of his alleged deposit.
Hi, Franceso or anyone else from HolyTransaction team. Glad to see you defending HolyTransaction scammers again.
(reference is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088396.msg48865133#msg48865133)
I wrote, that: "note to mods: i can provide more proofs directly to pm. i will not post personal info here, in case of scammers attacks. they tried more than 5 times already."
If you have any remaining doubts - forward it to court or police and notify me. Until there are no subpoena or court desicion - you are scammer, which is withhelding funds.
So go to Flyp.me thread and promote your shit scammy service at your own. Clown.
Maybe we can discuss your frauding, money laundering and avoiding taxes?

>>As said to bL4nkcode, we can look only at the evidence presented. HT says he is in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity and OP has provided nothing to refute this.
Give me the valid evidence, that im in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity - or gfy.

and one more question: why you started to defend HT today once again, only after i wrote to your facebook page ( https://www.facebook.com/BlockchainEduIT ) ?
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December 30, 2018, 03:42:07 PM
Last edit: December 31, 2018, 03:39:47 PM by JollyGood
 #48

Interesting read, but flyp launched only in Q3/Q4 of 2017...

Their next accounts are due by 31 March 2019 to cover the period between 1 July 2017 to 30 June 2018. We will see their accounts within 14 weeks and see what they show.


@thomoak

In the mean time please can you explain how you are connected to HolyTransaction & FlypMe?

This post from you did make me chuckle a bit because you seem hell bent on promoting and defending all things HolyTransaction & FlypMe: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1952077.msg25284447#msg25284447

It seems very strange why someone who last posted in April 2018 would suddenly wake up and start posting 7 months later in a thread related to HolyTransaction & FlypMe being called scammers.

Your last post before going silent for 7 months in April 2018 was also in the HolyTransaction & FlypMe ICO thread posting positive comments.

When you registered the thomoak account on 2nd October 2017 you immediately posted 5 straight positive posts in the HolyTransaction & FlypMe ICO thread.

That was half pro-HolyTransaction & FlypMe posts on your first page alone: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181308;sa=showPosts;start=80

Every one of your posts except three are about the FYP token writing positive posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181308;sa=showPosts;start=60

Nearly every one of your posts are about the FYP token writing postive things: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181308;sa=showPosts;start=40

Half of your posts here are pro-HolyTransaction & FlypMe: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181308;sa=showPosts;start=20

And now upon your return from a 7 month hibernation it seems you have ensured to post elsewhere before posting here so to show you are not a sock-puppet account.

You could not make a positive post here because the thread is about their scam therefore you had to post something which could not be pro-HolyTransaction & FlypMe and would never have been anti-HolyTransaction & FlypMe so you had no choice but to write an ambiguous one which is posted above: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181308;sa=showPosts;start=0

All of your pro-HolyTransaction & FlypMe posts have the hallmarks of a puppet account that was created in the run up to the ICO to create fake buzz and fake hype which is being directly controlled by HolyTransaction & FlypMe.

It seems the negative publicity woke up your 7 month sleeping account because it was needed to slowly make itself known here before it started vigorously defending HolyTransaction & FlypMe but you sort of gave the game away by inadvertently defending the scammers with your very first post.

You seem to be their biggest supporter. What connection do you have with the HolyTransaction & FlypMe scammers?


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December 31, 2018, 01:05:14 PM
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2 months gone - no answer. Coins are still withhelding.
Nice work, HolyTransaction and FlypMe team.
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January 02, 2019, 01:54:59 PM
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2 months gone - no answer. Coins are still withhelding.
Nice work, HolyTransaction and FlypMe team.


I just added these scammers to my Scam Alert signature because they had ample time to respond and reply to the posts here but they chose to ignore.

The best they did was get their sock-puppet thomoak account to post propaganda here  Roll Eyes

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January 04, 2019, 07:41:33 PM
Last edit: January 04, 2019, 07:57:24 PM by ivndnkn
 #51

Still no news from support service of HolyTransaction and FlypMe.


Update:
lol, look what i'd found:


Quote from The Rock Trading scam thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg44951057#msg44951057
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Sorry, while I can understand your point of view, in order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify your real identity before releasing your funds which are available.

Refusing to do so, it only raise our concerns about the real ownership of the account.

So, please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide requested information to us, you may contact the Italian police and file a request.  They will request us to proceed and we will be ok because we do have the guarantee they checked your Identity which, obviously will be forwarded to us....  It only takes longer but it is your choice.

Thank you


Quote from my HolyTransaction & FlypMe scam thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088396.msg48857652#msg48857652
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Hi everyone,

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.

Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.

Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.


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January 04, 2019, 08:10:08 PM
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Still no news from support service of HolyTransaction and FlypMe.


Update:
lol, look what i'd found:


Quote from The Rock Trading scam thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg44951057#msg44951057
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Sorry, while I can understand your point of view, in order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify your real identity before releasing your funds which are available.

Refusing to do so, it only raise our concerns about the real ownership of the account.

So, please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide requested information to us, you may contact the Italian police and file a request.  They will request us to proceed and we will be ok because we do have the guarantee they checked your Identity which, obviously will be forwarded to us....  It only takes longer but it is your choice.

Thank you


Quote from my HolyTransaction & FlypMe scam thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088396.msg48857652#msg48857652
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Hi everyone,

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.

Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.

Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.


Thank you




Well both of these scam outfits (Rock Trading and HolyTransaction/FlypMe) are Italian.

Maybe they have a far deeper connection than anybody previously thought

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January 08, 2019, 04:03:12 PM
Last edit: January 08, 2019, 04:34:13 PM by r34tr783tr78
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Well both of these scam outfits (Rock Trading and HolyTransaction/FlypMe) are Italian.

Maybe they have a far deeper connection than anybody previously thought

This is an interesting possibility. The scammer Andrea Medri and the Scammer Francesco Simonetti might be partners in crime or friends. And Medri might be teaching Simonetti how to scam and try to get away with it. Or maybe Simonetti is just a lazy scammer and copy and pasted Medri answer. This answer is on the first page of the Rock scam thread. He didnt have to read much.
They know each other. They were at one talk about bitcoin on 2014:
https://web.uniroma1.it/fac_economia/sites/default/files/Locandina_0_0.pdf
Plagiarism is against BTCtalk rules. OP report this scammer to the administrator.

Hi everyone,

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.

Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.

Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.


Thank you

The OP just sent you every possible personal document. What lie are you going to invent now to keep his money? If you dont return the money I guess I will have some more feedback to give. I love (to burn) scammers.

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January 08, 2019, 05:32:48 PM
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i dont think that Rock Trading and these two are connected, but that doesnt mean they arent scammers.
OP any update on the situation ?

SCAM ALERT: The Rock Trading Exchange (www.therocktrading.com): Deceives bitcoiners to create unverified accounts, blocks the withdrawals covertly in order to let the user keep depositing money and uses every pretext to keep it blocked "forever".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.0
https://www.coinmedicate.com/the-rock-trading-selective-scam/
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January 08, 2019, 05:35:40 PM
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There is the list of documents, which i send to support service of HolyTransaction:

  • Passport
  • Driver lisence
  • Proof of adress
  • Proof of residence
  • Debit card statement
  • Notarized copy of passport
  • Notarized copy of driver lisence
  • Notarized copy of proof of adress
  • Notarized copy of proof of residence
  • Sworn translation of passport in english
  • Sworn translation of driver lisence in english
  • Sworn translation of proof of adress in english
  • Sworn translation of proof of residence in english
Nice pyramid Cheesy

HolyTransaction was last online more than 2 weeks ago.

Reminder for HolyTransaction:
As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.
What kind of BS is this? I'm pretty sure the police in Luxembourg doesn't play messenger for random people. They also don't play judge.

Also, please respond to this:
In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.
Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.
Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.
Are you kidding me? Im already provided to you more then 5 documents. But you still inventing new rules just for me.
I do not refuse any of your requests. But now its looks like you are mocking me.
I'll send HolyTransaction a PM asking to respond here.

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January 09, 2019, 10:11:00 AM
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Their recently awoken from hibernation sock puppet thomoak might be back soon though to post more propaganda supporting HolyTransaction & FlypMe scammers

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January 09, 2019, 05:22:58 PM
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Interesting read, but flyp launched only in Q3/Q4 of 2017...

Their next accounts are due by 31 March 2019 to cover the period between 1 July 2017 to 30 June 2018. We will see their accounts within 14 weeks and see what they show.


@thomoak

In the mean time please can you explain how you are connected to HolyTransaction & FlypMe?


I'm part of the community and i've made dozens of exchanges on Flyp Cheesy
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January 09, 2019, 06:44:52 PM
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with all these documents and all the proof op has provided the only way forward for holytransaction is to release the funds back to the user and clear its name.


HolyTransaction & FlypMe scammers are not interested in returning the crypto back to the legal owner.

They have selectively scammed to wrong person because he has come here to expose the scammers and the majority of us giving support and backing to these scammers. (Just the one sock-puppet account they woke up from hibernation specifically to come here and post pro-HolyTransaction & FlypMe propaganda is against the OP).

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January 10, 2019, 11:17:34 AM
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@Mirae
i dont think that Rock Trading and these two are connected, but that doesnt mean they arent scammers.
OP any update on the situation ?

After uploading notirized documents, i'd recieve this reply from them:

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Hi Ivan,

Thanks for getting in contact.
I will pass this case to the department that is able to assist you.

Best Regards,
HolyTransaction Support Team @ HolyTransaction

@LoyceV
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Also, please respond to this:
In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.
Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.
Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.
Are you kidding me? Im already provided to you more then 5 documents. But you still inventing new rules just for me.
I do not refuse any of your requests. But now its looks like you are mocking me.
I'll send HolyTransaction a PM asking to respond here.

If you really want their answer, send some words to them here:


If your message will contain the word fraud or scam - you will recieve instant ban and your post will be deleted. This is especially evident on their TG chat https://t.me/flypme.
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January 10, 2019, 02:21:48 PM
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Interesting read, but flyp launched only in Q3/Q4 of 2017...

Their next accounts are due by 31 March 2019 to cover the period between 1 July 2017 to 30 June 2018. We will see their accounts within 14 weeks and see what they show.


@thomoak

In the mean time please can you explain how you are connected to HolyTransaction & FlypMe?


I'm part of the community and i've made dozens of exchanges on Flyp Cheesy
Liar. This is someone from Flyp.Me and HolyTransaction scammers team, perhaps Simonetti. Do not try to fool us.
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