🔴[SCAM ALERT] HolyTransaction & Flyp.Me ILLEGALY holding more than 100k$ in BTC

[ivndnkn]

Flags:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=657
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=658

Scammers Profile Links:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=107290
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=952969
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1022290

Scammers Service Links:
https://holytransaction.com/
https://flyp.me/


In 2017, i transferred all my coins to an online wallet called HolyTransaction. My friend advised it to me. He also used it to store rather large amounts, but for some reason he had no problems, but that’s another story ...
In my stupidity, I have not fully studied the functionality of this service.
There was a functional that was turned on by default and, what is most strange, it was possible to disable it only through the support service, which, by the way, works just disgustingly.
It is easier to say - they do not work at all.
By and large, i was relatively pleased with my experience with this wallet. It was very convenient to make transactions from the mobile phone and exchange coins directly inside the wallet (exchange is possible only for another cryptocurrency, there is no fiat gateway), they have the functionality for that.
I also want to note that i periodically bought more coins for cash, but used other exchangers. There are quite a lot of them in Russia and so far the cryptocurrency sphere is not strongly regulated here - this is more than legal.
As stated by the creators of the service: "our service has cutting edge security". Ok, I believed them and was calm about the safety of their funds. But over time, it turned out that nothing.
Not so long ago, in early November, my daily limit was lowered in this order: $ 2000 ==> $ 1000 ==> $ 250 ==> $ 0.
At the time of reducing the limit to $ 1000, i turned to the support service.
Every day, as part of the daily limit, i withdraw my funds to a hardware wallet. But at one point, they completely disabled the ability to withdraw funds WITHOUT WARNING.
After 5 days (!), i received a message from the support service with a request to provide documents identifying my personality: id, driver lisence, proof of adress, proof of residence and one of these identifications.
I provided all the documents and photos, as they requested. But i made a mistake, which i then repeated again. Having no experience with KYC, i sent proof of adress and proof of residence that were already in my passport.
Another 10 (!) days passed and received an answer from them. Ok, they accepted all documents except proof of adress and proof of residence. As it turned out, they wanted from me fresh proof of adress and proof of residence, no later than 90 days. OK. And one more time, due to inexperience, I sent them my bank statement as proof of residence.
But now they started asking for source of my funds ...
I want to draw your attention to this moment: my fiat money was never even close to HolyTransaction. As i learned later, they have disabled the possibility of buying coins for citizens of Russia (thank God).
And at this moment i began to appear doubts about the reliability of this service. Having submitted the documents and the requested information, i began to wait.
It took about 10 (!) more days and i received the following answer from them:



note: support service answered me only when i wrote negative comments about their work in their accounts on social networks.
i wrote them about the same thing every day, but they turned out to be able to answer only like this: soon, asap, sorry for delay etc.
for you, my friends, i want to inform you that my support ticket was created on november 10, 2018. at the moment 1 month and 12 days have passed - no progress on my question, my money is still illegally withheld by this service.

After such a muddy, incomprehensible answer, i again began to rush their accounts in social networks. And then something happened that surprised me the most. They banned me everywhere in their accounts.
But then i immediately received such a response from the support service:



They have already begun to repeat, but the situation is hopeless and i gave them all the information again.
At the moment, more than 5 days have passed since their last reply - there is no more news from them. In desperation, i wrote about this experience on reddit, and there i received a response from HolyTransaction:




The narrative part of the story ends here. Further additional facts will be listed.

• They are hiding behind their terms and conditions. It is important to know that i started using the service in 2017. Their terms and conditions changed in June 2018. This happened silently, without any notice in the interface of this service. The change completely untied their hands and provided any means of holding funds, while the user's rights were blurred and minimized. It's illegal.
• The support service responds only when some negative thing concerns their public reputation. Not one of their answers was initiated by their will. All their answers came after i wrote them at absolutely all their social accounts. It is also important to know that all the negative is removed by them. The guys are very worried that someone will find out that they are fraudsters.
• The CEO of this service, @darbon, blocks me every time he sees any message from me.
• The team of this service often lies to me. Each message contains something like this: this is the last stage of the check, you will soon be able to withdraw funds. And you know what? The next time i get a list of the next requirements and another promise that this is the last stage of the check.
• I also call the Flyp.Me team scammers, because it’s the same people

note: i'm still learning english, so i can make mistakes sometimes. sorry.
note to mods: i can provide more proofs directly to pm. i will not post personal info here, in case of scammers attacks. they tried more than 5 times already.
note: i will update and add information as it is received.



note: but for now, let's spread this case on bitcointalk and elsewhere we can reach
Please, leave negative feedback on this users: they are all from HolyTransaction team.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=107290
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=952969
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1022290

also make post to their thread on bitcointalk with this thread reference :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3208626
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=472248.120

It is also important to know that all the negative is removed by them.
The guys are very worried that someone will find out that they are fraudsters.
So feel free to post link on this thread at their social accounts:

https://t.me/flypme
https://www.facebook.com/holytransaction/
https://www.facebook.com/flypme/
https://twitter.com/holytransaction
https://twitter.com/flyp_me

Big update:
There is the list of documents, which i send to support service of HolyTransaction:

• Passport
• Driver lisence
• Proof of adress
• Proof of residence
• Debit card statement
• Notarized copy of passport
• Notarized copy of driver lisence
• Notarized copy of proof of adress
• Notarized copy of proof of residence
• Sworn translation of passport in english
• Sworn translation of driver lisence in english
• Sworn translation of proof of adress in english
• Sworn translation of proof of residence in english

All this documents were in PDF (scanned) and JPG (photo).

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[suchmoon]

This seems to be missing some important details. Are you a Russian citizen living abroad at this time? Or do you live in Russia? What exactly did the terms of service say about these scenarios when you signed up?

I don't think any service should confiscate your funds if you happen to be in one of the countries they don't service. They should either prevent you from signing up or return your funds to you as soon as the issue is discovered. However if their terms said they can do it you might have a hard time arguing your position, particularly if they can claim money laundering or something like that.

[ivndnkn]

This seems to be missing some important details. Are you a Russian citizen living abroad at this time? Or do you live in Russia? What exactly did the terms of service say about these scenarios when you signed up?

I don't think any service should confiscate your funds if you happen to be in one of the countries they don't service. They should either prevent you from signing up or return your funds to you as soon as the issue is discovered. However if their terms said they can do it you might have a hard time arguing your position, particularly if they can claim money laundering or something like that.

I am a citizen of Russia and all this time I lived in Russia.

Previous version of Terms and Conditions:

Suspension/Termination and HolyTransaction Account Cancellation. HolyTransaction may: (a) suspend or terminate your access to any or all of the HolyTransaction Services, and (b) deactivate or cancel your HolyTransaction Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if HolyTransaction reasonably suspects you of using your HolyTransaction Account in furtherance of illegal activity. You will be permitted to transfer cryptocurrency associated with your HolyTransaction Wallet. You may cancel your HolyTransaction Account at any time by transferring or exchanging all cryptocurrency associated with your HolyTransaction Wallet and ceasing acess to HolyTransaction Servcices. If any transaction is in a pending state at the time your HolyTransaction Account is cancelled or suspended, such transaction may be cancelled and/or refunded as appropriate. You may not cancel your HolyTransaction Account to evade an investigation or avoid paying any amounts otherwise due to HolyTransaction. Upon cancellation of your HolyTransaction Account, you authorize HolyTransaction to cancel or suspend pending Exchange Service transactions and hold the funds associated with such transactions until HolyTransaction is certain that funding reversal windows are complete. In the event that you or HolyTransaction terminates this Agreement or your access to the HolyTransaction Services, or deactivates or cancels your HolyTransaction Account, you will remain liable for all amounts due hereunder. In the event that a technical problem causes system outage or Account errors, HolyTransaction may temporarily suspend access to your Account until the problem is resolved.

[HolyTransaction]

Hi everyone, we have been made aware of a user who is posting in different groups alleging his funds were stolen. That is false and the funds are where they should be.

In line with article 25 of HolyTransaction's T&Cs, the company has the right to suspend the user access to the services if the user is in violation of any provision laid down by the T&Cs. Our customer support is in contact with the user.

While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

Article 25. Permanent withdrawal of Services
HolyTransaction may:
(a) suspend or terminate the Client access to the Services, and
(b) deactivate and/or cancel the Client Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if HolyTransaction reasonably suspects the Client of using his/her Client Account in furtherance of illegal activity or in violation of any provision laid down by these General Terms and Conditions. [...]

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update:

Hi everyone,

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.

Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.

Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.


Thank you

[ivndnkn]

Hi everyone, we have been made aware of a user who is posting in different groups alleging his funds were stolen. That is false and the funds are where they should be.

In line with article 25 of HolyTransaction's T&Cs, the company has the right to suspend the user access to the services if the user is in violation of any provision laid down by the T&Cs. Our customer support is in contact with the user.

While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

Mark my words:

note: support service answered me only when i wrote negative comments about their work in their accounts on social networks.
i wrote them about the same thing every day, but they turned out to be able to answer only like this: soon, asap, sorry for delay etc.
for you, my friends, i want to inform you that my support ticket was created on november 10, 2018. at the moment 1 month and 12 days have passed - no progress on my question, my money is still illegally withheld by this service.

THEY JUST COPY-PASTED PREVIOUS ANSWER
https://i.ibb.co/5GBkVGG/redd.png


they have already begun to mock me

[suchmoon]

Hi everyone, we have been made aware of a user who is posting in different groups alleging his funds were stolen. That is false and the funds are where they should be.

In line with article 25 of HolyTransaction's T&Cs, the company has the right to suspend the user access to the services if the user is in violation of any provision laid down by the T&Cs. Our customer support is in contact with the user.

While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

The user doesn't seem to want your services anymore. Close their account and return their funds.

[ivndnkn]

Hi everyone, we have been made aware of a user who is posting in different groups alleging his funds were stolen. That is false and the funds are where they should be.

In line with article 25 of HolyTransaction's T&Cs, the company has the right to suspend the user access to the services if the user is in violation of any provision laid down by the T&Cs. Our customer support is in contact with the user.

While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

The user doesn't seem to want your services anymore. Close their account and return their funds.

I bet they won't answer here or elsewhere (i did mention, that they replies only one time and only in the case of public negative feedback with copy-pasted text).

[ivndnkn]

Hi everyone, we have been made aware of a user who is posting in different groups alleging his funds were stolen. That is false and the funds are where they should be.

In line with article 25 of HolyTransaction's T&Cs, the company has the right to suspend the user access to the services if the user is in violation of any provision laid down by the T&Cs. Our customer support is in contact with the user.

While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

Article 25. Permanent withdrawal of Services
HolyTransaction may:
(a) suspend or terminate the Client access to the Services, and
(b) deactivate and/or cancel the Client Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if HolyTransaction reasonably suspects the Client of using his/her Client Account in furtherance of illegal activity or in violation of any provision laid down by these General Terms and Conditions. [...]

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I do not accept your LAST EDIT of terms and conditions, because it is important to know that i started using the service in 2017. Their terms and conditions changed in June 2018. This happened silently, without any notice in the interface of this service. The change completely untied their hands and provided any means of holding funds, while the user's rights were blurred and minimized. It's illegal.

[JollyGood]

Hi everyone, we have been made aware of a user who is posting in different groups alleging his funds were stolen. That is false and the funds are where they should be.

In line with article 25 of HolyTransaction's T&Cs, the company has the right to suspend the user access to the services if the user is in violation of any provision laid down by the T&Cs. Our customer support is in contact with the user.

While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

Article 25. Permanent withdrawal of Services
HolyTransaction may:
(a) suspend or terminate the Client access to the Services, and
(b) deactivate and/or cancel the Client Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if HolyTransaction reasonably suspects the Client of using his/her Client Account in furtherance of illegal activity or in violation of any provision laid down by these General Terms and Conditions. [...]

Just those parts of your post that I have highlighted in RED have all the hallmarks of selective scam written all over it.

I never heard of HolyTransaction before reading this thread and am not impressed with them or their name after reading about their scamming tactics.

[ivndnkn]

update: i recieve this from support service:

Hi Ivan,

Thanks for following up.
We apologize for the delayed response and appreciate your patience while we review your HolyTransaction account.

In order to complete your verification, we will require some additional documents:

1. Notarized copy of your documents.
2. Sworn translation in English of the documents that you provided.


We appreciate your patience and cooperation!


Best Regards,

HolyTransaction Support Team @ HolyTransaction

note: the team of this service often lies to me. Each message contains something like this: this is the last stage of the check, you will soon be able to withdraw funds. And you know what? The next time i get a list of the next requirements and another promise that this is the last stage of the check.
note: support service answered me only when i wrote negative comments about their work in their accounts on social networks.

[BharatDEX]

@HolyTransaction


Under which law do you demand this kind of documents ?
Why is he being treated not like other customers.
Also i would like to ask if you are even prepared to store this kind of sensitiv data ?
If yes what kind of solutions do you got ?


I would also like to ask since i was also a HOLYTRANSACTION user myself when exectly did you informed us about the change of your terms and more important made us acceting the new terms?
Please provide proof that OP accept your new Terms which you are required by law to provide when asked to.

[keithieY5]

Hi everyone, we have been made aware of a user who is posting in different groups alleging his funds were stolen. That is false and the funds are where they should be.

In line with article 25 of HolyTransaction's T&Cs, the company has the right to suspend the user access to the services if the user is in violation of any provision laid down by the T&Cs. Our customer support is in contact with the user.

While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

Article 25. Permanent withdrawal of Services
HolyTransaction may:
(a) suspend or terminate the Client access to the Services, and
(b) deactivate and/or cancel the Client Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if HolyTransaction reasonably suspects the Client of using his/her Client Account in furtherance of illegal activity or in violation of any provision laid down by these General Terms and Conditions. [...]

You can't hold their fund like that,100K $ is a huge amount,you can easily go to jail..

[BharatDEX]

deactivate and/or cancel the Client Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if HolyTransaction reasonably suspects the Client of using his/her Client Account in furtherance of illegal activity or in violation of any provision laid down by these General Terms and Conditions. [...]

Even if you would accept their terms that point gives them no right to hold your funds but to close the account.
Also since i doubt they will provide you with the subpoena or a court order only option 3 is left which is HolyTransaction reasonably suspects the Client of using his/her Client Account in furtherance of illegal activity.

So since they are holding your funds without subpoena or court order you can demand to articulate "their reasonably suspects the Client of using his/her Client Account in furtherance of illegal activity" and to provide proof of their claims.
Give them a deadline to move that case to court or to release the funds.

They have no right to hold the funds endless without creating a court case or calling the local police which will investigate.
Since nothing happened its clearly that they are breaking local laws.

[TryNinja]

@HolyTransaction

Continuation of your Article 25:

[...] The Client will be permitted to transfer all the Cryptocurrencies associated with his/her Client Account for ninety (90) days after his/her Client Account deactivation or cancellation unless such transfer is otherwise prohibited (i) under the law, or (ii) by a valid subpoena or court order.

Did you get a valid subpoena or court order to retain ivndnkn's funds? Otherwise, why can't you just cancel his account and give him his money back?

[Mirae]

Hi everyone, we have been made aware of a user who is posting in different groups alleging his funds were stolen. That is false and the funds are where they should be.

In line with article 25 of HolyTransaction's T&Cs, the company has the right to suspend the user access to the services if the user is in violation of any provision laid down by the T&Cs. Our customer support is in contact with the user.

While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

Article 25. Permanent withdrawal of Services
HolyTransaction may:
(a) suspend or terminate the Client access to the Services, and
(b) deactivate and/or cancel the Client Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if HolyTransaction reasonably suspects the Client of using his/her Client Account in furtherance of illegal activity or in violation of any provision laid down by these General Terms and Conditions. [...]

It doesnt matter how long you have been in the market if you are scamming your users.

[JollyGood]

@HolyTransaction

Continuation of your Article 25:

[...] The Client will be permitted to transfer all the Cryptocurrencies associated with his/her Client Account for ninety (90) days after his/her Client Account deactivation or cancellation unless such transfer is otherwise prohibited (i) under the law, or (ii) by a valid subpoena or court order.

Did you get a valid subpoena or court order to retain ivndnkn's funds? Otherwise, why can't you just cancel his account and give him his money back?

Because they wanted to selective scam their customers.

All these scammers hide behind the same excuse: "under terms and conditions we can ...."

They should return the crypto back to the rightful owner.

[ryap12]

I have worked as a chat/email support before and I tell you honestly that, that kind of job usually the support does not care if the issue gets resolve or not. Sadly to read your story it has not been resolve instead your funds are stuck there. That's why I never store big funds in exchanges as they may hold your funds instead.

[killerjoegreece]

Hi everyone, we have been made aware of a user who is posting in different groups alleging his funds were stolen. That is false and the funds are where they should be.

In line with article 25 of HolyTransaction's T&Cs, the company has the right to suspend the user access to the services if the user is in violation of any provision laid down by the T&Cs. Our customer support is in contact with the user.

While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

The user doesn't seem to want your services anymore. Close their account and return their funds.

I agree with suchmoon. Given that the OP information is correct and HolyTransaction is refusing to refund its purely their fault in my book. And guys, please be safe and own your private keys. So that you really own your coins.

[Realerre]

Hi everyone, we have been made aware of a user who is posting in different groups alleging his funds were stolen. That is false and the funds are where they should be.

In line with article 25 of HolyTransaction's T&Cs, the company has the right to suspend the user access to the services if the user is in violation of any provision laid down by the T&Cs. Our customer support is in contact with the user.

While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

Article 25. Permanent withdrawal of Services
HolyTransaction may:
(a) suspend or terminate the Client access to the Services, and
(b) deactivate and/or cancel the Client Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if HolyTransaction reasonably suspects the Client of using his/her Client Account in furtherance of illegal activity or in violation of any provision laid down by these General Terms and Conditions. [...]

You can close his account but you cannot stole his funds, it dosen't matter what you wrote in the terms and condition, only a judge can seize funds

[JollyGood]

There are way too many RED FLAGS associated with both HolyTransaction & FlypMe.

First let us start with FlypMe. It is a website clearly stated by themselves as being "built and managed by HolyTransaction" and that means that it should NOT be used. The reasons are listed below but in short HolyTransaction is not to be trusted and they built and manage FlypMe therefore FlypMe should also not be trusted: https://flyp.me/about

I will start listing issues:

1) https://holytransaction.com/page/about-us
Their website footer clearly shows "HOLYTRANSACTION S.A. © 2018 Luxembourg" and About Us shows "HolyTransaction was founded in February of 2014 as a way to solve this problem, and opened office in Luxembourg an early the following year."


2) https://holytransaction.com/page/tos
Their Terms of Service define the company as "HolyTransaction SA, a company incorporated under the laws of Luxembourg and having its registered office at L-1470 LUXEMBOURG, 70, route d’Esch (hereinafter “HolyTransaction”). HolyTransaction has been authorized to exercise its activities by the Ministry of Economy of the Grand-Duchy of Luxembourg."


3) https://flyp.me/tos
Last Revised on June 15, 2017 it states among other things: "The Services are owned and controlled by HolyTransaction Ltd., a UK company" and "Flyp.me Platform is a Project under full ownership and control of HolyTransaction."


4) https://flyp.me/about
It is a website clearly stated by themselves as being "built and managed by HolyTransaction".


5) Blatant Lies By HolyTransaction Ltd
On 27 Mar 2018 Francesco Simonetti filed a document at Companies House stating that from the time HolyTransaction Ltd was registered/incorporated on 23 Jun 2016 until 30 June 2017 the company was not trading, therefore did not make profit or loss because it was not operating. Next accounts are due by 31 March 2019 and they MUST include all profit/loss and accounts details between 1 July 2017 to 30 June 2018.

It costs around 100 EURO a year to use "207 Regent Street, London, United Kingdom, W1B 3HH" as a company address but there is NO office there.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10247484
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10247484/filing-history
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10247484/officers
https://www.completeformations.co.uk/company-shop/regent-street.html

If the company shows it is "dormant" and not trading why is the FlypMe website live, online and trading? That is impossible unless there is a fraud/scam behind it because HolyTransaction Ltd own and operate FlypMe. FlypMe is not a separate entity, it is a trading name of HolyTransaction Ltd

Why was a cheap London mailing address used to register a company called HolyTransaction Ltd and that was used to front a non-company trading name called FlypMe when HOLYTRANSACTION S.A. was already registered in Luxembourg?



@OP
1) Please contact the UK Police on the telephone number in the link below. Please explain to them everything that happened to you AND YOU MUST explain to them that HolyTransaction Ltd (registered address: 207 Regent Street, London, United Kingdom, W1B 3HH and has Company number: 10247484) has just one Director/Owner and he is Francesco Simonetti. This person is using a mailing address for both Registered Office and Directors mailing address therefore the people that he paid around 100 EURO to use the address MUST have his passport/ID photocopy. The police can and obtain that information from them for identification purposes.

The Police will make necessary checks to find out if Francesco Simonetti is really behind this scam or if his ID was used against his knowledge. When you report the scam please ask them for a "Crime Reference Number" or if they cannot give it then please ask them for "an Incident Report Number": https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/reporting-fraud-and-cyber-crime

2) After that please contact Companies House and tell them you have a Crime Reference number or Incident Report number regarding HolyTransaction Ltd, 207 Regent Street, London, United Kingdom, W1B 3HH with Company number: 10247484. Tell them everything that happened and tell them the Police gave you the Crime Reference number or Incident Report number. You must give them the URLs https://flyp.me/tos and https://flyp.me/about and tell them that HolyTransaction Ltd has been trading in the period they claim they were "dormant" therefore they are liars and they have committed a criminal offence. Please ask them to close the company down. They will write to Francesco Simonetti at 207 Regent Street, London, United Kingdom, W1B 3HH to ask him for his side of the story, maybe they will give him 14 or 21 days to reply. If he does not reply they will give him another 14 or 21 days and if he does not reply they will strike the company from its register and hopefully seek to charge him in Court. With him being a EU citizen it should be easy but that all depends if his ID was used with or without his knowledge.

That makes a great start to get back at these scammers. We will see what happens in the first few weeks of the new year.

[ivndnkn]

There are way too many RED FLAGS associated with both HolyTransaction & FlypMe.

First let us start with FlypMe. It is a website clearly stated by themselves as being "built and managed by HolyTransaction" and that means that it should NOT be used. The reasons are listed below but in short HolyTransaction is not to be trusted and they built and manage FlypMe therefore FlypMe should also not be trusted: https://flyp.me/about

I will start listing issues:

1) https://holytransaction.com/page/about-us
Their website footer clearly shows "HOLYTRANSACTION S.A. © 2018 Luxembourg" and About Us shows "HolyTransaction was founded in February of 2014 as a way to solve this problem, and opened office in Luxembourg an early the following year."


2) https://holytransaction.com/page/tos
Their Terms of Service define the company as "HolyTransaction SA, a company incorporated under the laws of Luxembourg and having its registered office at L-1470 LUXEMBOURG, 70, route d’Esch (hereinafter “HolyTransaction”). HolyTransaction has been authorized to exercise its activities by the Ministry of Economy of the Grand-Duchy of Luxembourg."


3) https://flyp.me/tos
Last Revised on June 15, 2017 it states among other things: "The Services are owned and controlled by HolyTransaction Ltd., a UK company" and "Flyp.me Platform is a Project under full ownership and control of HolyTransaction."


4) https://flyp.me/about
It is a website clearly stated by themselves as being "built and managed by HolyTransaction".


5) Blatant Lies By HolyTransaction Ltd
On 27 Mar 2018 Francesco Simonetti filed a document at Companies House stating that from the time HolyTransaction Ltd was registered/incorporated on 23 Jun 2016 until 30 June 2017 the company was not trading, therefore did not make profit or loss because it was not operating. Next accounts are due by 31 March 2019 and they MUST include all profit/loss and accounts details between 1 July 2017 to 30 June 2018.

It costs around 100 EURO a year to use "207 Regent Street, London, United Kingdom, W1B 3HH" as a company address but there is NO office there.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10247484
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10247484/filing-history
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10247484/officers
https://www.completeformations.co.uk/company-shop/regent-street.html

If the company shows it is "dormant" and not trading why is the FlypMe website live, online and trading? That is impossible unless there is a fraud/scam behind it because HolyTransaction Ltd own and operate FlypMe. FlypMe is not a separate entity, it is a trading name of HolyTransaction Ltd

Why was a cheap London mailing address used to register a company called HolyTransaction Ltd and that was used to front a non-company trading name called FlypMe when HOLYTRANSACTION S.A. was already registered in Luxembourg?



@OP
1) Please contact the UK Police on the telephone number in the link below. Please explain to them everything that happened to you AND YOU MUST explain to them that HolyTransaction Ltd (registered address: 207 Regent Street, London, United Kingdom, W1B 3HH and has Company number: 10247484) has just one Director/Owner and he is Francesco Simonetti. This person is using a mailing address for both Registered Office and Directors mailing address therefore the people that he paid around 100 EURO to use the address MUST have his passport/ID photocopy. The police can and obtain that information from them for identification purposes.

The Police will make necessary checks to find out if Francesco Simonetti is really behind this scam or if his ID was used against his knowledge. When you report the scam please ask them for a "Crime Reference Number" or if they cannot give it then please ask them for "an Incident Report Number": https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/reporting-fraud-and-cyber-crime

2) After that please contact Companies House and tell them you have a Crime Reference number or Incident Report number regarding HolyTransaction Ltd, 207 Regent Street, London, United Kingdom, W1B 3HH with Company number: 10247484. Tell them everything that happened and tell them the Police gave you the Crime Reference number or Incident Report number. You must give them the URLs https://flyp.me/tos and https://flyp.me/about and tell them that HolyTransaction Ltd has been trading in the period they claim they were "dormant" therefore they are liars and they have committed a criminal offence. Please ask them to close the company down. They will write to Francesco Simonetti at 207 Regent Street, London, United Kingdom, W1B 3HH to ask him for his side of the story, maybe they will give him 14 or 21 days to reply. If he does not reply they will give him another 14 or 21 days and if he does not reply they will strike the company from its register and hopefully seek to charge him in Court. With him being a EU citizen it should be easy but that all depends if his ID was used with or without his knowledge.

That makes a great start to get back at these scammers. We will see what happens in the first few weeks of the new year.

@JollyGood
Thank you so much for participation. Okay, i will start this procedure tommorow. Also there is small problem - im not native english speaker, so there could be some problems with talking to some authorities. So maybe i will try to chat with them via email. I look up at their website and i found a possability for that.

Note: but for now, let's spread this case on bitcointalk and elsewhere we can reach
Please, leave negative feedback on this users: they are all from HolyTransaction team.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=107290
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=952969
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1022290

also make post to their thread on bitcointalk with this thread reference :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3208626
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=472248.120

It is also important to know that all the negative is removed by them.
The guys are very worried that someone will find out that they are fraudsters.
So feel free to post link on this thread at their social accounts:

https://t.me/flypme
https://www.facebook.com/holytransaction/
https://www.facebook.com/flypme/
https://twitter.com/holytransaction
https://twitter.com/flyp_me

TO ANY MODS, THAT WILL SEE IT:
These scammers still operating on bitcointalk and elsewhere.
Please, mark their thread as scam (or something like that in case to notify other users)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3208626

Information for all readers:
I appreciate any help with my problem
Any help will be rewarded.
When i will return my money back, every person who left at least 2 posts here in my thread, will receive a 0.01BTC.

[JollyGood]

@JollyGood
Thank you so much for participation. Okay, i will start this procedure tommorow. Also there is small problem - im not native english speaker, so there could be some problems with talking to some authorities. So maybe i will try to chat with them via email. I look up at their website and i found a possability for that.

If you do not write English very well then you are right, you should probably write to them in email but the process might take a bit longer.

Information for all readers:
I appreciate any help with my problem
Any help will be rewarded.
When i will return my money back, every person who left at least 2 posts here in my thread, will receive a 0.01BTC

Even though you kindly offer BTC to all those that help, I think the majority of people posting here would be more inclined to do so trying to help you so you can get your crypto back as a priority.

Hopefully this situation will be resolved soon. After these next few days of Christmas I will contact the UK Police and Company Register to make a complaint about their trading claims so at least an investigation can commence but you must also contact them in writing with your full story so they can try to help get your crypto back.

Stay positive, hopefully you will get your crypto back within a few weeks at most.

[bL4nkcode]

I just messaged them and tweet about this, let see if they will reply or will just block me from their twitter account.

Calling DT members to tagged the account(s) of holytransaction.

And to OP, you can buy hardware wallet for your funds security once your problem is solved and don't ever use to store your funds on some centralized exchange/wallet.

[HolyTransaction]

Hi everyone,

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.

Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.

Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.


Thank you

[JollyGood]

Hi everyone,

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.

Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.

Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.


Thank you

@HolyTransaction
Why is Flypme owned by UK company "Holytransaction LTD" but Holytransaction.com is owned by "Holytransaction S.A. Luxembourg"?

[ivndnkn]

Hi everyone,

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.

Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.

Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.


As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.


Thank you

Are you kidding me? Im already provided to you more then 5 documents. But you still inventing new rules just for me.
I do not refuse any of your requests. But now its looks like you are mocking me.

[Realerre]

Hi everyone,

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.

Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.

Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.


Thank you

Is this a standard procedure for all the user, or is there some reasons because you flagged OP as particularly suspicious, beside his stash?

[Mirae]

Hi everyone,

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.

Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.

Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.


Thank you

OP said that he provided documents already to your company for "verification"
Why are you lying

[JollyGood]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2058588.msg20536941#msg20536941

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2058532.msg20536054#msg20536054

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2053735.msg20476100#msg20476100

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2045130.msg20370041#msg20370041

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012509.msg20049295#msg20049295

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2010139.msg20020076#msg20020076

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008246.msg19995802#msg19995802


The list goes on: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=952969;sa=showPosts

You really have been busy promoting your 50% profit sharing scheme for ICO investors but when people make complaints you lock the ICO thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1952077.1080) and open a self-moderated thread where you can delete any post you dislike: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3208626


Here is what CoinMarketCap shows:

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/flypme/
Volume (24h)
$36 USD
0.01 BTC
0.24 ETH

Market Cap
$374,780 USD
88 BTC
2,532 ETH

Not exactly a great trading company is it? Now with this negative publicity it is only going to warn off investors and potential victims. You claim to share 50% of your profits with investors but you have next to nothing in investment and you do next to nothing in trade volumes.

What exactly is your end game? Did you always intend to selective scam your customers and users?

I am so happy the OP started this thread to expose your scam. We are all on his side because you selective scammed the wrong person and we are all going to help him by spreading the word.

And we are still waiting for the question asked earlier: Why is Flypme owned by UK company "Holytransaction LTD" but Holytransaction.com is owned by "Holytransaction S.A. Luxembourg"?

[thomoak]

5) Blatant Lies By HolyTransaction Ltd
On 27 Mar 2018 Francesco Simonetti filed a document at Companies House stating that from the time HolyTransaction Ltd was registered/incorporated on 23 Jun 2016 until 30 June 2017 the company was not trading, therefore did not make profit or loss because it was not operating. Next accounts are due by 31 March 2019 and they MUST include all profit/loss and accounts details between 1 July 2017 to 30 June 2018.

It costs around 100 EURO a year to use "207 Regent Street, London, United Kingdom, W1B 3HH" as a company address but there is NO office there.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10247484
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10247484/filing-history
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10247484/officers
https://www.completeformations.co.uk/company-shop/regent-street.html

If the company shows it is "dormant" and not trading why is the FlypMe website live, online and trading? That is impossible unless there is a fraud/scam behind it because HolyTransaction Ltd own and operate FlypMe. FlypMe is not a separate entity, it is a trading name of HolyTransaction Ltd

Why was a cheap London mailing address used to register a company called HolyTransaction Ltd and that was used to front a non-company trading name called FlypMe when HOLYTRANSACTION S.A. was already registered in Luxembourg?

Interesting read, but flyp launched only in Q3/Q4 of 2017...

[JollyGood]

This seems extremely shameful tactics to selective scam innocent users.

HolyTransaction & FlypMe scammers will get the negative publicity they deserve and their "business" will never become successful.

[ni23457]

Yeah, one more Russian service... who love Russians   It's a Russian business babies    (maybe they live in Ukraine, no matter)



https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2017/01/06/investment-guide-to-crypto-coin-offerings-rating-blockchain-startups/

As for Ambisafe, whose founding team has been pioneering cryptocurrency development since 2010, founders Andrey Zamovskiy (CEO) and Anton Tovstonozhenko previously launched HolyTransaction and made contributions to other cryptocurrency projects including Tether, Expresscoin and Bitfinex amongst others.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Anton+Tovstonozhenko+holytransaction
https://www.google.com/search?q=Andrey+Zamovskiy+holytransaction



Do you know why they can do anything with Russian customers? Just because Russian customers can not complain anywhere. If they(customers) come to the Russian police(or Ukranian police. No matter. These are countries with the same outrage) and say that they have stolen 100 thousand dollars in cryptocurrency, then they(customers) can get problems(for example with some policeman's friends...). And Russian cryptobusinessmen know this very well.

Flypme owned by UK company "Holytransaction LTD" but Holytransaction.com is owned by "Holytransaction S.A. Luxembourg"

Luxembourg, UK - of course it's just offshore companies. Maybe I'm wrong. Forgive me. Please give me a photos from their Luxembourg and UK offices  
It's like St. Petersburg's Changelly, 100% of whose employees have never worked in Malta. But they write everywhere that they are from Malta  

[JollyGood]

Yeah, one more Russian service... who love Russians   It's a Russian business babies    (maybe they live in Ukraine, no matter)



https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2017/01/06/investment-guide-to-crypto-coin-offerings-rating-blockchain-startups/

As for Ambisafe, whose founding team has been pioneering cryptocurrency development since 2010, founders Andrey Zamovskiy (CEO) and Anton Tovstonozhenko previously launched HolyTransaction and made contributions to other cryptocurrency projects including Tether, Expresscoin and Bitfinex amongst others.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Anton+Tovstonozhenko+holytransaction
https://www.google.com/search?q=Andrey+Zamovskiy+holytransaction



Do you know why they can do anything with Russian customers? Just because Russian customers can not complain anywhere. If they(customers) come to the Russian police(or Ukranian police. No matter. These are countries with the same outrage) and say that they have stolen 100 thousand dollars in cryptocurrency, then they(customers) can get problems(for example with some policeman's friends...). And Russian cryptobusinessmen know this very well.

Flypme owned by UK company "Holytransaction LTD" but Holytransaction.com is owned by "Holytransaction S.A. Luxembourg"

Luxembourg, UK - of course it's just offshore companies. Maybe I'm wrong. Forgive me. Please give me a photos from their Luxembourg and UK offices  
It's like St. Petersburg's Changelly, 100% of whose employees have never worked in Malta. But they write everywhere that they are from Malta  

Good to see you still active around these forums my friend. Hope you have been keeping well ni23457




I did not search for any office photographs but they are definitely "offshore" companies.

It seems the owner is Italian but he registered two companies called "Holytransaction Ltd".

One company is in London and it is the owner and operator of "Flypme" and "flyp.me"

The other company is in Luxembourg and it is the owner and operator of "holytransaction.com"

The Italian Franco Simonetti owns both companies.

[ivndnkn]

Yeah, one more Russian service... who love Russians   It's a Russian business babies    (maybe they live in Ukraine, no matter)



https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2017/01/06/investment-guide-to-crypto-coin-offerings-rating-blockchain-startups/

As for Ambisafe, whose founding team has been pioneering cryptocurrency development since 2010, founders Andrey Zamovskiy (CEO) and Anton Tovstonozhenko previously launched HolyTransaction and made contributions to other cryptocurrency projects including Tether, Expresscoin and Bitfinex amongst others.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Anton+Tovstonozhenko+holytransaction
https://www.google.com/search?q=Andrey+Zamovskiy+holytransaction



Do you know why they can do anything with Russian customers? Just because Russian customers can not complain anywhere. If they(customers) come to the Russian police(or Ukranian police. No matter. These are countries with the same outrage) and say that they have stolen 100 thousand dollars in cryptocurrency, then they(customers) can get problems(for example with some policeman's friends...). And Russian cryptobusinessmen know this very well.

Flypme owned by UK company "Holytransaction LTD" but Holytransaction.com is owned by "Holytransaction S.A. Luxembourg"

Luxembourg, UK - of course it's just offshore companies. Maybe I'm wrong. Forgive me. Please give me a photos from their Luxembourg and UK offices  
It's like St. Petersburg's Changelly, 100% of whose employees have never worked in Malta. But they write everywhere that they are from Malta  

Good to see you still active around these forums my friend. Hope you have been keeping well ni23457




I did not search for any office photographs but they are definitely "offshore" companies.

It seems the owner is Italian but he registered two companies called "Holytransaction Ltd".

One company is in London and it is the owner and operator of "Flypme" and "flyp.me"

The other company is in Luxembourg and it is the owner and operator of "holytransaction.com"

The Italian Franco Simonetti owns both companies.

Yes. I had a conversation Andrey Zamovskiy. He said, that he is out of business since 2015.
So Franco Simonetti is the only owner.

Tonight i will update thread with new info.
Merry Christmas, guys!

[sumair7231]

While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

being in the business since 2014 doesn't mean u cant scam

[killerjoegreece]

Yeah, one more Russian service... who love Russians   It's a Russian business babies    (maybe they live in Ukraine, no matter)



https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2017/01/06/investment-guide-to-crypto-coin-offerings-rating-blockchain-startups/

As for Ambisafe, whose founding team has been pioneering cryptocurrency development since 2010, founders Andrey Zamovskiy (CEO) and Anton Tovstonozhenko previously launched HolyTransaction and made contributions to other cryptocurrency projects including Tether, Expresscoin and Bitfinex amongst others.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Anton+Tovstonozhenko+holytransaction
https://www.google.com/search?q=Andrey+Zamovskiy+holytransaction



Do you know why they can do anything with Russian customers? Just because Russian customers can not complain anywhere. If they(customers) come to the Russian police(or Ukranian police. No matter. These are countries with the same outrage) and say that they have stolen 100 thousand dollars in cryptocurrency, then they(customers) can get problems(for example with some policeman's friends...). And Russian cryptobusinessmen know this very well.

Flypme owned by UK company "Holytransaction LTD" but Holytransaction.com is owned by "Holytransaction S.A. Luxembourg"

Luxembourg, UK - of course it's just offshore companies. Maybe I'm wrong. Forgive me. Please give me a photos from their Luxembourg and UK offices  
It's like St. Petersburg's Changelly, 100% of whose employees have never worked in Malta. But they write everywhere that they are from Malta  

Good to see you still active around these forums my friend. Hope you have been keeping well ni23457




I did not search for any office photographs but they are definitely "offshore" companies.

It seems the owner is Italian but he registered two companies called "Holytransaction Ltd".

One company is in London and it is the owner and operator of "Flypme" and "flyp.me"

The other company is in Luxembourg and it is the owner and operator of "holytransaction.com"

The Italian Franco Simonetti owns both companies.

Yes. I had a conversation Andrey Zamovskiy. He said, that he is out of business since 2015.
So Franco Simonetti is the only owner.

Tonight i will update thread with new info.
Merry Christmas, guys!

The plot thikens. I would love to read more about this case.

[LoyceV]

Not so long ago, in early November, my daily limit was lowered in this order: $ 2000 ==> $ 1000 ==> $ 250 ==> $ 0.

This reminds me of what Bittrex did last year. It might be part of a process in which they try to become "more legit", but it also looks like they're using delaying tactics, which looks much more like selective scamming.

When i will return my money back, every person who left at least 2 posts here in my thread, will receive a 0.01BTC.

This is how you get spambots in your thread.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.

What kind of BS is this? I'm pretty sure the police in Luxembourg doesn't play messenger for random people. They also don't play judge.

[JollyGood]

Yes. I had a conversation Andrey Zamovskiy. He said, that he is out of business since 2015.
So Franco Simonetti is the only owner.

Tonight i will update thread with new info.
Merry Christmas, guys!

Yes that was fairly conclusive about the Italian Franco Simonetti owning both companies.

I never heard of Andrey Zamovskiy before but did he give you any clues about the way HolyTransaction & FlypMe operate and the way they intend to selective scam their users?

[Dig Bicks]

ugh , seems like every crypto service is selectively scamming.  Whenever they get a deposit of around 100k or higher they decide to just keep it.   These services make it insanely easy to put your money in but taking it out is a different story....

I hope you get your money back but it will be an extreme uphill battle.

[ivndnkn]

Yes. I had a conversation Andrey Zamovskiy. He said, that he is out of business since 2015.
So Franco Simonetti is the only owner.

Tonight i will update thread with new info.
Merry Christmas, guys!

Yes that was fairly conclusive about the Italian Franco Simonetti owning both companies.

I never heard of Andrey Zamovskiy before but did he give you any clues about the way HolyTransaction & FlypMe operate and the way they intend to selective scam their users?

Nothing. I bet he was co-investor and then he left the project. Franco Simonetti is the only guy who is operating it right now.

[ivndnkn]

Big update:
There is the list of documents, which i send to support service of HolyTransaction:

• Passport
• Driver lisence
• Proof of adress
• Proof of residence
• Debit card statement
• Notarized copy of passport
• Notarized copy of driver lisence
• Notarized copy of proof of adress
• Notarized copy of proof of residence
• Sworn translation of passport in english
• Sworn translation of driver lisence in english
• Sworn translation of proof of adress in english
• Sworn translation of proof of residence in english

All this documents were in PDF (scanned) and JPG (photo).


@HolyTransaction
If you will reject my verification with these documents - it will be considered as scam and i will act accordingly to this.
My ticket is unsolved for 50 days for now.

[Realerre]

Lol at this point you could just go in their office in person, if they have any remaining doubt

[JollyGood]

ugh , seems like every crypto service is selectively scamming.  Whenever they get a deposit of around 100k or higher they decide to just keep it.   These services make it insanely easy to put your money in but taking it out is a different story....

I hope you get your money back but it will be an extreme uphill battle.

Yes it is an uphill battle but as long as people gather around the victims and support them then it is not an impossible task to get the money returned.

The thing these selective scammers dislike the most is when they mess with the wrong person and then begin to receive negative publicity which in-turn affects cash flow from users they have no intention of scamming. That is when they are stuck because they want to return the crypto to those they scammed hoping the negative publicity will stop but want to save face as well by not accepting they were selective scamming.

If we all get behind the victims we will be able to add weight to their cause and hopefully the scammers will return the crypto to its rightful owner sooner rather than later.

[Dig Bicks]

One of these days these type of scammers are going to mess with the wrong person and end up dead when they get caught. 

[ivndnkn]

update: still no reply from HolyTransaction
also i found the facebook page running by Franco Simonetti - https://www.facebook.com/BlockchainEduIT/
feel free to ask him anything about his scumy things

[thomoak]

While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

being in the business since 2014 doesn't mean u cant scam

As said to bL4nkcode, we can look only at the evidence presented. HT says he is in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity and OP has provided nothing to refute this.

I wonder why OP is not posting anything about his bitcoins, not even a txhash of his alleged deposit.

[ivndnkn]

While we cannot discuss individual cases, we would like to highlight to everyone who is reading this that HolyTransaction has been successfully in business since 2014 being the first multicurrency web wallet to be launched. Thanks for reading.

being in the business since 2014 doesn't mean u cant scam

As said to bL4nkcode, we can look only at the evidence presented. HT says he is in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity and OP has provided nothing to refute this.

I wonder why OP is not posting anything about his bitcoins, not even a txhash of his alleged deposit.

Hi, Franceso or anyone else from HolyTransaction team. Glad to see you defending HolyTransaction scammers again.
(reference is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088396.msg48865133#msg48865133)
I wrote, that: "note to mods: i can provide more proofs directly to pm. i will not post personal info here, in case of scammers attacks. they tried more than 5 times already."
If you have any remaining doubts - forward it to court or police and notify me. Until there are no subpoena or court desicion - you are scammer, which is withhelding funds.
So go to Flyp.me thread and promote your shit scammy service at your own. Clown.
Maybe we can discuss your frauding, money laundering and avoiding taxes?

>>As said to bL4nkcode, we can look only at the evidence presented. HT says he is in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity and OP has provided nothing to refute this.
Give me the valid evidence, that im in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity - or gfy.

and one more question: why you started to defend HT today once again, only after i wrote to your facebook page ( https://www.facebook.com/BlockchainEduIT ) ?

[JollyGood]

Interesting read, but flyp launched only in Q3/Q4 of 2017...

Their next accounts are due by 31 March 2019 to cover the period between 1 July 2017 to 30 June 2018. We will see their accounts within 14 weeks and see what they show.


@thomoak

In the mean time please can you explain how you are connected to HolyTransaction & FlypMe?

This post from you did make me chuckle a bit because you seem hell bent on promoting and defending all things HolyTransaction & FlypMe: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1952077.msg25284447#msg25284447

It seems very strange why someone who last posted in April 2018 would suddenly wake up and start posting 7 months later in a thread related to HolyTransaction & FlypMe being called scammers.

Your last post before going silent for 7 months in April 2018 was also in the HolyTransaction & FlypMe ICO thread posting positive comments.

When you registered the thomoak account on 2nd October 2017 you immediately posted 5 straight positive posts in the HolyTransaction & FlypMe ICO thread.

That was half pro-HolyTransaction & FlypMe posts on your first page alone: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181308;sa=showPosts;start=80

Every one of your posts except three are about the FYP token writing positive posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181308;sa=showPosts;start=60

Nearly every one of your posts are about the FYP token writing postive things: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181308;sa=showPosts;start=40

Half of your posts here are pro-HolyTransaction & FlypMe: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181308;sa=showPosts;start=20

And now upon your return from a 7 month hibernation it seems you have ensured to post elsewhere before posting here so to show you are not a sock-puppet account.

You could not make a positive post here because the thread is about their scam therefore you had to post something which could not be pro-HolyTransaction & FlypMe and would never have been anti-HolyTransaction & FlypMe so you had no choice but to write an ambiguous one which is posted above: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181308;sa=showPosts;start=0

All of your pro-HolyTransaction & FlypMe posts have the hallmarks of a puppet account that was created in the run up to the ICO to create fake buzz and fake hype which is being directly controlled by HolyTransaction & FlypMe.

It seems the negative publicity woke up your 7 month sleeping account because it was needed to slowly make itself known here before it started vigorously defending HolyTransaction & FlypMe but you sort of gave the game away by inadvertently defending the scammers with your very first post.

You seem to be their biggest supporter. What connection do you have with the HolyTransaction & FlypMe scammers?

[ivndnkn]

2 months gone - no answer. Coins are still withhelding.
Nice work, HolyTransaction and FlypMe team.

[JollyGood]

2 months gone - no answer. Coins are still withhelding.
Nice work, HolyTransaction and FlypMe team.

I just added these scammers to my Scam Alert signature because they had ample time to respond and reply to the posts here but they chose to ignore.

The best they did was get their sock-puppet thomoak account to post propaganda here 

[ivndnkn]

Still no news from support service of HolyTransaction and FlypMe.


Update:
lol, look what i'd found:


Quote from The Rock Trading scam thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg44951057#msg44951057

Sorry, while I can understand your point of view, in order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify your real identity before releasing your funds which are available.

Refusing to do so, it only raise our concerns about the real ownership of the account.

So, please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide requested information to us, you may contact the Italian police and file a request.  They will request us to proceed and we will be ok because we do have the guarantee they checked your Identity which, obviously will be forwarded to us....  It only takes longer but it is your choice.

Thank you

Quote from my HolyTransaction & FlypMe scam thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088396.msg48857652#msg48857652

Hi everyone,

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.

Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.

Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.


Thank you

[JollyGood]

Still no news from support service of HolyTransaction and FlypMe.


Update:
lol, look what i'd found:


Quote from The Rock Trading scam thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg44951057#msg44951057

Sorry, while I can understand your point of view, in order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify your real identity before releasing your funds which are available.

Refusing to do so, it only raise our concerns about the real ownership of the account.

So, please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide requested information to us, you may contact the Italian police and file a request.  They will request us to proceed and we will be ok because we do have the guarantee they checked your Identity which, obviously will be forwarded to us....  It only takes longer but it is your choice.

Thank you

Quote from my HolyTransaction & FlypMe scam thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088396.msg48857652#msg48857652

Hi everyone,

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.

Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.

Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.


Thank you

Well both of these scam outfits (Rock Trading and HolyTransaction/FlypMe) are Italian.

Maybe they have a far deeper connection than anybody previously thought

[r34tr783tr78]

Well both of these scam outfits (Rock Trading and HolyTransaction/FlypMe) are Italian.

Maybe they have a far deeper connection than anybody previously thought

This is an interesting possibility. The scammer Andrea Medri and the Scammer Francesco Simonetti might be partners in crime or friends. And Medri might be teaching Simonetti how to scam and try to get away with it. Or maybe Simonetti is just a lazy scammer and copy and pasted Medri answer. This answer is on the first page of the Rock scam thread. He didnt have to read much.
They know each other. They were at one talk about bitcoin on 2014:
https://web.uniroma1.it/fac_economia/sites/default/files/Locandina_0_0.pdf
Plagiarism is against BTCtalk rules. OP report this scammer to the administrator.

Hi everyone,

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.

Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.

Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.


Thank you

The OP just sent you every possible personal document. What lie are you going to invent now to keep his money? If you dont return the money I guess I will have some more feedback to give. I love (to burn) scammers.

[Mirae]

i dont think that Rock Trading and these two are connected, but that doesnt mean they arent scammers.
OP any update on the situation ?

[LoyceV]

There is the list of documents, which i send to support service of HolyTransaction:

• Passport
• Driver lisence
• Proof of adress
• Proof of residence
• Debit card statement
• Notarized copy of passport
• Notarized copy of driver lisence
• Notarized copy of proof of adress
• Notarized copy of proof of residence
• Sworn translation of passport in english
• Sworn translation of driver lisence in english
• Sworn translation of proof of adress in english
• Sworn translation of proof of residence in english

Nice pyramid

HolyTransaction was last online more than 2 weeks ago.

Reminder for HolyTransaction:

As an alternative, if you do not want to provide the requested information to us, you may contact the Luxembourgish police and file a request. They will request us to proceed and we will act accordingly because we do have the guarantee they checked your case.

What kind of BS is this? I'm pretty sure the police in Luxembourg doesn't play messenger for random people. They also don't play judge.

Also, please respond to this:

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.
Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.
Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

Are you kidding me? Im already provided to you more then 5 documents. But you still inventing new rules just for me.
I do not refuse any of your requests. But now its looks like you are mocking me.

I'll send HolyTransaction a PM asking to respond here.

[JollyGood]

Their recently awoken from hibernation sock puppet thomoak might be back soon though to post more propaganda supporting HolyTransaction & FlypMe scammers

[thomoak]

Interesting read, but flyp launched only in Q3/Q4 of 2017...

Their next accounts are due by 31 March 2019 to cover the period between 1 July 2017 to 30 June 2018. We will see their accounts within 14 weeks and see what they show.


@thomoak

In the mean time please can you explain how you are connected to HolyTransaction & FlypMe?

I'm part of the community and i've made dozens of exchanges on Flyp

[JollyGood]

with all these documents and all the proof op has provided the only way forward for holytransaction is to release the funds back to the user and clear its name.

HolyTransaction & FlypMe scammers are not interested in returning the crypto back to the legal owner.

They have selectively scammed to wrong person because he has come here to expose the scammers and the majority of us giving support and backing to these scammers. (Just the one sock-puppet account they woke up from hibernation specifically to come here and post pro-HolyTransaction & FlypMe propaganda is against the OP).

[ivndnkn]

@Mirae

i dont think that Rock Trading and these two are connected, but that doesnt mean they arent scammers.
OP any update on the situation ?

After uploading notirized documents, i'd recieve this reply from them:

Hi Ivan,

Thanks for getting in contact.
I will pass this case to the department that is able to assist you.

Best Regards,
HolyTransaction Support Team @ HolyTransaction

@LoyceV

Also, please respond to this:

In order to protect your interests and everybody else safety, we do need to verify the real identity.
Refusing to complete the procedure, it raise our concerns about the account.
Please, comply with the requests in order to solve the issue.

Are you kidding me? Im already provided to you more then 5 documents. But you still inventing new rules just for me.
I do not refuse any of your requests. But now its looks like you are mocking me.

I'll send HolyTransaction a PM asking to respond here.

If you really want their answer, send some words to them here:

• https://t.me/flypme
• https://www.facebook.com/holytransaction/
• https://www.facebook.com/flypme/
• https://twitter.com/holytransaction
• https://twitter.com/flyp_me

If your message will contain the word fraud or scam - you will recieve instant ban and your post will be deleted. This is especially evident on their TG chat https://t.me/flypme.

[ivndnkn]

Interesting read, but flyp launched only in Q3/Q4 of 2017...

Their next accounts are due by 31 March 2019 to cover the period between 1 July 2017 to 30 June 2018. We will see their accounts within 14 weeks and see what they show.


@thomoak

In the mean time please can you explain how you are connected to HolyTransaction & FlypMe?

I'm part of the community and i've made dozens of exchanges on Flyp

Liar. This is someone from Flyp.Me and HolyTransaction scammers team, perhaps Simonetti. Do not try to fool us.

[JollyGood]

Yes we all know this thomoak account is operated by HolyTransaction & FlypMe.

All his posts are about defending the scammers but we all know that he is a scammer.

[thomoak]

with all these documents and all the proof op has provided the only way forward for holytransaction is to release the funds back to the user and clear its name.

HolyTransaction & FlypMe scammers are not interested in returning the crypto back to the legal owner.

They have selectively scammed to wrong person because he has come here to expose the scammers and the majority of us giving support and backing to these scammers. (Just the one sock-puppet account they woke up from hibernation specifically to come here and post pro-HolyTransaction & FlypMe propaganda is against the OP).

Can you give me one good reason why you think that HolyTransaction is not interested in returning the crypto back to the legal owner?
Look only at the evidence presented. HT says he/she is in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity and OP has provided nothing to refute this.

Again, I wonder why OP is not posting anything about his/her bitcoins, not even a tx of their alleged deposit. Maybe it's ivndnkn that scammed someone?

[ivndnkn]

Again, I wonder why OP is not posting anything about his/her bitcoins, not even a tx of their alleged deposit. Maybe it's ivndnkn that scammed someone?

Why i have to provide personal info to you? You already have all my documents and info.

Look only at the evidence presented. HT says he/she is in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity and OP has provided nothing to refute this.

Give me the valid evidence, that im in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity - or gfy.
You (HolyTransaction & FlypMe) don't write any single word about evidence, that im in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity

Can you give me one good reason why you think that HolyTransaction is not interested in returning the crypto back to the legal owner?

There are plenty:
KYC / AML lasts more then 2 months.
Even with notorized documents they don't want to release my funds.
They used fake accounts to run propaganda.
They used to post their answer with copy-pasted text from another threads (lol).

Wants more?

[thomoak]

Again, I wonder why OP is not posting anything about his/her bitcoins, not even a tx of their alleged deposit. Maybe it's ivndnkn that scammed someone?

Why i have to provide personal info to you? You already have all my documents and info.

Look only at the evidence presented. HT says he/she is in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity and OP has provided nothing to refute this.

Give me the valid evidence, that im in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity - or gfy.
You (HolyTransaction & FlypMe) don't write any single word about evidence, that im in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity

Can you give me one good reason why you think that HolyTransaction is not interested in returning the crypto back to the legal owner?

There are plenty:
KYC / AML lasts more then 2 months.
Even with notorized documents they don't want to release my funds.
They used fake accounts to run propaganda.
They used to post their answer with copy-pasted text from another threads (lol).

Wants more?

I thought you wanted to share your txhash publicly so everyone can track the bitcoins on the blockchain?

[ivndnkn]

Again, I wonder why OP is not posting anything about his/her bitcoins, not even a tx of their alleged deposit. Maybe it's ivndnkn that scammed someone?

Why i have to provide personal info to you? You already have all my documents and info.

Look only at the evidence presented. HT says he/she is in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity and OP has provided nothing to refute this.

Give me the valid evidence, that im in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity - or gfy.
You (HolyTransaction & FlypMe) don't write any single word about evidence, that im in violation of TOS specifically citing illegal or illicit activity

Can you give me one good reason why you think that HolyTransaction is not interested in returning the crypto back to the legal owner?

There are plenty:
KYC / AML lasts more then 2 months.
Even with notorized documents they don't want to release my funds.
They used fake accounts to run propaganda.
They used to post their answer with copy-pasted text from another threads (lol).

Wants more?

I thought you wanted to share your txhash publicly so everyone can track the bitcoins on the blockchain?

I thought you wanted to answer hell of a lot questions on this thread?
Which one txhash you are talking about, Francesco?

[JollyGood]

@ivndnkn

Just IGNORE the scammer, do not waste your time with him.

[ivndnkn]

Issue is still open.
They continue asking me info and some questions according their mythical "compliance program".
So for now i'm preparing legal actions. I will keep posting info as i will to receive it.
Stay tuned!  

[LoyceV]

I'll send HolyTransaction a PM asking to respond here.

HolyTransaction was online 5 days ago, but I didn't get a reply and they didn't answer here. I've tagged them with a link to my post in this thread.

If you really want their answer, send some words to them here:

• https://t.me/flypme
• https://www.facebook.com/holytransaction/
• https://www.facebook.com/flypme/
• https://twitter.com/holytransaction
• https://twitter.com/flyp_me

Sorry, I only use Bitcointalk for those things.

[JollyGood]

Issue is still open.
They continue asking me info and some questions according their mythical "compliance program".
So for now i'm preparing legal actions. I will keep posting info as i will to receive it.
Stay tuned!  

They are playing games with you in order to hold on top your funds. After all the ID you sent them, they still want more information from you. They are pathetic scammers.

They messed with the wrong person because you exposed them here. These scammers are going to have to release your funds in the coming days.

[Poninvest]

ivndnkn
Many thanks for this post and warning! The company where I work, works 2 years only with HT, I told my boss your story and showed the post. Now we will need to transfer coins from corporate accounts. Already transferred all my coins from HT today. I think they will return your coins and close soon. I will share this information where possible.

[r34tr783tr78]

Again, I wonder why OP is not posting anything about his/her bitcoins, not even a tx of their alleged deposit. Maybe it's ivndnkn that scammed someone?

Your partner in crime HolyTransaction didnt deny the OP deposits or the amount he claims. As quoted in the OP he said the funds are where they should be. Are you trying to lie even more than him? Well also thanks to you your partner just got new feedback.

[ivndnkn]

21 day without any word from them. I'm waiting for new excuses and questions, while my lawyer is preparing a complaint. 
@thomoak, maybe you can entertain us? 

[Grab]

21 day without any word from them. I'm waiting for new excuses and questions, while my lawyer is preparing a complaint. 
@thomoak, maybe you can entertain us? 

Omg you are waiting more than 2 months for your money and your lawyer didnt send any complaint, he is doing it now(after 2-3 months) ?
Come on, they are scammer's you must fight hard to get your money.

[ivndnkn]

21 day without any word from them. I'm waiting for new excuses and questions, while my lawyer is preparing a complaint. 
@thomoak, maybe you can entertain us? 

Omg you are waiting more than 2 months for your money and your lawyer didnt send any complaint, he is doing it now(after 2-3 months) ?
Come on, they are scammer's you must fight hard to get your money.

Hi.

I understand your wonderment. I was in hospital for 1 month, so i wasn't able to go to the police and some authorities. Also meeting with lawyer in hospital was not that comfortable 
At the beggining of this issue i hoped, that collaboration and all documents/info provided from my side were enough to solve that issue, but as time goes by my concerns about this service was rised.
So for now my lawyer working on it 24/7.

Thank you.

[Grab]

21 day without any word from them. I'm waiting for new excuses and questions, while my lawyer is preparing a complaint. 
@thomoak, maybe you can entertain us? 

Omg you are waiting more than 2 months for your money and your lawyer didnt send any complaint, he is doing it now(after 2-3 months) ?
Come on, they are scammer's you must fight hard to get your money.

Hi.

I understand your wonderment. I was in hospital for 1 month, so i wasn't able to go to the police and some authorities. Also meeting with lawyer in hospital was not that comfortable 
At the beggining of this issue i hoped, that collaboration and all documents/info provided from my side were enough to solve that issue, but as time goes by my concerns about this service was rised.
So for now my lawyer working on it 24/7.

Thank you.

Oh i understand you now... I hope that everything is fine with your healthy...
I have crypto channel with 4k subs and i will make video about it.

[Grab]

After 1 min i got answer from flyp.me
"Hi , this is Flyp.me and not HolyTransaction"
They told me this is not same team xD

[ivndnkn]

21 day without any word from them. I'm waiting for new excuses and questions, while my lawyer is preparing a complaint. 
@thomoak, maybe you can entertain us? 

Omg you are waiting more than 2 months for your money and your lawyer didnt send any complaint, he is doing it now(after 2-3 months) ?
Come on, they are scammer's you must fight hard to get your money.

Hi.

I understand your wonderment. I was in hospital for 1 month, so i wasn't able to go to the police and some authorities. Also meeting with lawyer in hospital was not that comfortable 
At the beggining of this issue i hoped, that collaboration and all documents/info provided from my side were enough to solve that issue, but as time goes by my concerns about this service was rised.
So for now my lawyer working on it 24/7.

Thank you.

Oh i understand you now... I hope that everything is fine with your healthy...
I have crypto channel with 4k subs and i will make video about it.

Thank you very much.
Please, post link to your channel here. I think you will get new subscribers, at least me

[JollyGood]

After 1 min i got answer from flyp.me
"Hi , this is Flyp.me and not HolyTransaction"
They told me this is not same team xD

They are lying scammers.

They are part of the same team, Holy Transaction Ltd owns and operates Flyp.me

[coinedpainter]

@JollyGood Sorry to hear your story. What I find funny is that you claim Flyp.me holds $100k in BTC, but Flyp.me doesn't allow you to make such big trades all at once. At the moment the maximum for BTC is <-> ETH for example 0.8 BTC. Why did you make several trades directly after each other without waiting to see if they were successful at all?
Can you share at least one TxHash with us to make your story believable?

[JollyGood]

@JollyGood Sorry to hear your story. What I find funny is that you claim Flyp.me holds $100k in BTC, but Flyp.me doesn't allow you to make such big trades all at once. At the moment the maximum for BTC is <-> ETH for example 0.8 BTC. Why did you make several trades directly after each other without waiting to see if they were successful at all?
Can you share at least one TxHash with us to make your story believable?

Hello "Newbie" who at this point has made only 2 posts. The first was on: July 05, 2018 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3537142.msg41597942#msg41597942

"Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][WRITER CAMPAIGN] flyp.me ⭐ Your Accountless Exchange ⭐ FYP Owners Club"


The second was the post above.

Just as thomoak did, you too have come out of hibernation to defend the evil scammers at HolyTransaction & Flyp.Me

Regarding your post, I never made such claim but you carry on finding the matter of the OP being scammed funny while others might find your sudden waking up from hibernation to defend evil scammers as funny unless you are obviously a multi-account operated by them  

[coinedpainter]

I'm not a multi account operated by them and I did not defend them.
I just pointed out what looks strange to me and asked for a simple tx hash instead of groundless claim.
If op really wants to warn others about Flyp.me he should be more than happy to provide at least some proof?

Instead you're attacking all users asking legitimate questions. This does not help others and does not show op in a good ligt.

[ivndnkn]

I'm not a multi account operated by them and I did not defend them.
I just pointed out what looks strange to me and asked for a simple tx hash instead of groundless claim.
If op really wants to warn others about Flyp.me he should be more than happy to provide at least some proof?

Instead you're attacking all users asking legitimate questions. This does not help others and does not show op in a good ligt.

Hi, somebody from HT team.

Glad to see another fake account defending your service.
Groundless claim? Ok, i will list issues:

• They doesn't reply to me for 23 days.
• "Verification" procedure lasts more than 3 month.
• They are running fake accounts instead of solving real problems.
• Simonetti's team personally ignores me everywhere and they are too much scared to answer a lot of questions in this thread.
• They usually replies with COPY-PASTED crap from other threads.

And in this case the only thing that you found strange is my unwillingness to share private data?

There were no attacks at the users.
Only the thomoak thing, but it's alt of Simonetti so this doesn't count.

[ivndnkn]

@coinedpainter

@OmegaStarScream

I know there are some accusations against HolyTransaction but I'm asking this because a friend requested me to.

I would appreciate If someone who already used ShapeShift and Chagelly in the past, could give a review about Flyp.me as well (fees, KYC, speed, support etc.)

Hi. Glad to see the rising of public awareness of this scam project.
The most important thing you have to know about them: HolyTransaction = FlypMe.
Do not trust everybody who will claim that it is project by another team. CEO, core dev and smm team are same people who are runnig HolyTransaction.
My favorite feedbacks are here:

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1952077.msg25280824#msg25280824

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1952077.msg27356650#msg27356650

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1952077.msg27362328#msg27362328

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1952077.msg25499034#msg25499034

Also there are some typical unanswered questions on reddit:

• https://www.reddit.com/r/flypme/comments/abz5du/flypme_community_update_4/ed4lc4v/

You can see ignorance. Also there are some fake accounts running by Flyp.Me scammers, for example: u/Samsenior.

Overall i categorically DON'T reccomend to use this scam service, because when you will come out of thier interest or will ask for some transparency - you will became scammed, ignored and discredited.

I also would like to highlight to everyone who's reading, that scammers are wasting time for posting the bullshit with fake accounts, instead of solving client's issues.

[JollyGood]

I'm not a multi account operated by them and I did not defend them.
I just pointed out what looks strange to me and asked for a simple tx hash instead of groundless claim.
If op really wants to warn others about Flyp.me he should be more than happy to provide at least some proof?

Instead you're attacking all users asking legitimate questions. This does not help others and does not show op in a good ligt.

I see no legitimate question in your post. All I see is a scammer using a multi-account to back up his scammer team.

@JollyGood Sorry to hear your story. What I find funny is that you claim Flyp.me holds $100k in BTC, but Flyp.me doesn't allow you to make such big trades all at once. At the moment the maximum for BTC is <-> ETH for example 0.8 BTC. Why did you make several trades directly after each other without waiting to see if they were successful at all?
Can you share at least one TxHash with us to make your story believable?

No you are not

Why do you find it funny? And where did I claim what you wrote? Provide link

I never used and never will use evil scammer websites unHolyTransaction or Flyp.me. If the OP wanted to make one or more trades because he felt the service was genuine then that was his prerogative and he should offer no explanation to you

Since you are an advocate for the scammers and part of their team the OP should not have to do anything you say or ask


I would advise the OP to add you to his IGNORE list just I am going to do after I post this message

[ivndnkn]

@holytransaction, thomoak, coinedpainter



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcWM_1hBu_c

[JollyGood]

These scammers were asking the following questions:





These are the proofs you sent them in PDF and JPG formats:

• Passport
• Driver lisence
• Proof of adress
• Proof of residence
• Debit card statement
• Notarized copy of passport
• Notarized copy of driver lisence
• Notarized copy of proof of adress
• Notarized copy of proof of residence
• Sworn translation of passport in english
• Sworn translation of driver lisence in english
• Sworn translation of proof of adress in english
• Sworn translation of proof of residence in english

HolyTransaction & Flyp.Me are pathetic scammers

[edge777]

Wow! I usually only hover around in games and rounds and didn't know there is a whole world living in here.

I just wrote a full scam review with proof (to the best of my ability) about HOTBIT , a total scam exchange an hour ago and started checking on other stuff. Surprised the list is endless and even nitrogensports lol.

PS, and oh btw Fuck holy transactions.

[r34tr783tr78]

The scammer simonetti is clearly identified and so its a sitting duck. He must be completely crazy to keep the OP money blocked.

[JollyGood]

Wow! I usually only hover around in games and rounds and didn't know there is a whole world living in here.

I just wrote a full scam review with proof (to the best of my ability) about HOTBIT , a total scam exchange an hour ago and started checking on other stuff. Surprised the list is endless and even nitrogensports lol.

PS, and oh btw Fuck holy transactions.

Yes there is a whole underbelly of scammers in the crypto world. Scammers are simply out there to lie and lie to make money.

They do not care about the impact it has on investors, they just care about lining their own pockets.

[JollyGood]

What is the latest with this scam?

Any new updates?

[ivndnkn]

What is the latest with this scam?

Any new updates?

Hi there!
There are no single word from HT / FLYP team.
But i have good news:
Russian Police opened a criminal case against HolyTransaction S.A. and for now they are transferring this case via Ministry of Foreign Affairs to the court of Luxembourg. And of course this actions are curated by Luxembourgish Police. They did advice me to open case against Simonetti in my local Police office.
That's all for now.
Stay tuned.

[JollyGood]

What is the latest with this scam?

Any new updates?

Hi there!
There are no single word from HT / FLYP team.
But i have good news:
Russian Police opened a criminal case against HolyTransaction S.A. and for now they are transferring this case via Ministry of Foreign Affairs to the court of Luxembourg. And of course this actions are curated by Luxembourgish Police. They did advice me to open case against Simonetti in my local Police office.
That's all for now.
Stay tuned.

Excellent news. Thank you for the update.

[JollyGood]

Any other updates since last week?

[ivndnkn]

Any other updates since last week?

Hi there! There are not so many news... It just needs more time.
HT team still stays quiet.
My issue is unsolved for 5 months for now

[Coinfan]

I'm very sorry for your situation, fellow victim.

Recently, I even posted about your situation, saying that in your case you trusted them all your documents without any result. That I wouldn't do the same.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50358802#msg50358802

I never seen a case as clear a scam as yours. I just gave the main scammer negative feedback.

[r34tr783tr78]

Coinfan glad that you are supporting the OP here too. This is a very clear scam case. Asking for documents is always an excellent pretext. But here the scammers couldnt invent more documents to ask for.

[JollyGood]

Coinfan glad that you are supporting the OP here too. This is a very clear scam case. Asking for documents is always an excellent pretext. But here the scammers couldnt invent more documents to ask for.

Very well said. The scammers could not invent more documents to ask for.

The OP has sent them all sorts of documents way beyond what is required by any organisation seeking to comply with AML/KYC norms but the Holy Transaction and Flyp.me scammers did use the "asking for ID" stunt as a pretext in order to scam the OP.

Scammers Profile Links:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=107290
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=952969
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1022290

Scammers Service Links:
https://holytransaction.com/
https://flyp.me/

Big update:
There is the list of documents, which i send to support service of HolyTransaction:

• Passport
• Driver lisence
• Proof of adress
• Proof of residence
• Debit card statement
• Notarized copy of passport
• Notarized copy of driver lisence
• Notarized copy of proof of adress
• Notarized copy of proof of residence
• Sworn translation of passport in english
• Sworn translation of driver lisence in english
• Sworn translation of proof of adress in english
• Sworn translation of proof of residence in english

All this documents were in PDF (scanned) and JPG (photo).

[sumair7231]

cant they be legally sued?

Edit: just saw posts above

[ivndnkn]

Bump!
I just want everyone to know, that scammers from HolyTransaction and Flyp.Me still stays ignorant and silent.
My issue is unsolved for 6 months for now. I don't get any word from them for 4 months.
I would not reccomend this services to anyone.

[ivndnkn]

cant they be legally sued?

Edit: just saw posts above

Yes, they can and judicial proceeding will start as soon as the Court of Luxembourg and Luxembourgish Police will recieve my complaints.
All documents were submitted to the Russian Ministry of foreign Affairs, at the moment documents are in the process of transferring to Luxembourg.

[r34tr783tr78]

cant they be legally sued?

Edit: just saw posts above

Yes, they can and judicial proceeding will start as soon as the Court of Luxembourg and Luxembourgish Police will recieve my complaints.
All documents were submitted to the Russian Ministry of foreign Affairs, at the moment documents are in the process of transferring to Luxembourg.

Put those scammers in jail Op. In between open a thread on investigations and post their pictures and full names. Or do it on a blog like I did with the scammer Andrea Medri. Burn scammers burn!

[JollyGood]

Yes, they can and judicial proceeding will start as soon as the Court of Luxembourg and Luxembourgish Police will recieve my complaints.
All documents were submitted to the Russian Ministry of foreign Affairs, at the moment documents are in the process of transferring to Luxembourg.

Do you have any update on this?

[User44a]

Linked to this tread from their (Flyp) announcement thread. Let's see how long it'll stay there before they remove my post. I was honestly going to invest into their ICO just to support the exchange, silly me.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3208626.msg51346803#msg51346803

[JollyGood]

Linked to this tread from their (Flyp) announcement thread. Let's see how long it'll stay there before they remove my post. I was honestly going to invest into their ICO just to support the exchange, silly me.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3208626.msg51346803#msg51346803

Thankfully you did not bother putting your money in to their scam, you would have lost everything by now

[JollyGood]

cant they be legally sued?

Edit: just saw posts above

Yes, they can and judicial proceeding will start as soon as the Court of Luxembourg and Luxembourgish Police will recieve my complaints.
All documents were submitted to the Russian Ministry of foreign Affairs, at the moment documents are in the process of transferring to Luxembourg.

What is the latest update here?

[r34tr783tr78]

And this still goes on. We live in a world where scamming seems to work because the police take ages to do anything. When the police arrest him the scammer might already have burned part of the OP money.

[JollyGood]

And this still goes on. We live in a world where scamming seems to work because the police take ages to do anything. When the police arrest him the scammer might already have burned part of the OP money.

Hopefully the police will start looking at all crypto fraud/scammers allegations much sooner and take action where it is deemed necessary.

I really hope the OP gets his funds returned and these scammers get their scam websites and scam companies shut down by the authorities.

[r34tr783tr78]

And this still goes on. We live in a world where scamming seems to work because the police take ages to do anything. When the police arrest him the scammer might already have burned part of the OP money.

Hopefully the police will start looking at all crypto fraud/scammers allegations much sooner and take action where it is deemed necessary.

I really hope the OP gets his funds returned and these scammers get their scam websites and scam companies shut down by the authorities.

Yes but the OP should update this more often. Nothing like an active thread to help warn bitcoiners and put the fear of the law on the scammers bones. The OPs silence cant be good news.

[JollyGood]

And this still goes on. We live in a world where scamming seems to work because the police take ages to do anything. When the police arrest him the scammer might already have burned part of the OP money.

Hopefully the police will start looking at all crypto fraud/scammers allegations much sooner and take action where it is deemed necessary.

I really hope the OP gets his funds returned and these scammers get their scam websites and scam companies shut down by the authorities.

Yes but the OP should update this more often. Nothing like an active thread to help warn bitcoiners and put the fear of the law on the scammers bones. The OPs silence cant be good news.

Without a doubt if the OP on any thread remains active it means public awareness on the issue remains in focus but right now we do not know what reasons the OP here for not posting here every couple of weeks or so.

I just hope the OP does not let these pathetic evil scammers get away with it. Not only should the OP have all stolen funds returned, the OP must ensure to takes these scammers to Court and apply for compensation too for the loss of use of those funds and for the scam Medri and his team are responsible for.

[ivndnkn]

Hello!

It's time to some updates:
The case was postponed due some mistype in personal data. I can't leak more information because it will reveal some insights to HolyTransaction scam team. More news will coming in the middle of september.
Flyp.me (HolyTransaction) recieves strike off from Companies House UK - https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10247484/filing-history
Fun fact: Flyp.me changed Terms of Service again without any notice - https://flyp.me/en/tos/
Some users reporting that flyp.me scam failed to payout "Profit Sharing" - https://www.reddit.com/r/flypme/comments/cgze7z/what_happened_to_quarterly_payouts/

[ivndnkn]

Btw, i didnt get new flag system. How can i create a flags?  

[JollyGood]

Btw, i didnt get new flag system. How can i create a flags?  

Good to hear from you again  

To make a flag against HolyTransaction click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=952969
To make a flag against Flyp.me click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=1022290


You should a flag against both of them and use the third option for both "This user violated a written contract with me, resulting in damages"

This will create a red banner warning others on any thread they start and it is important that these scammers do not get away with it. As a community we must protect each other and the best way is to highlight it here and hope others read the warnings and do not fall in their trap.

[ivndnkn]

Btw, i didnt get new flag system. How can i create a flags?  

Good to hear from you again  

To make a flag against HolyTransaction click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=952969
To make a flag against Flyp.me click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=1022290


You should a flag against both of them and use the third option for both "This user violated a written contract with me, resulting in damages"

This will create a red banner warning others on any thread they start and it is important that these scammers do not get away with it. As a community we must protect each other and the best way is to highlight it here and hope others read the warnings and do not fall in their trap.

Thank you, JollyGood. 
Done.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=657
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=658

I'm calling everyone who is reading this to support my flags. It's very important because HolyTransaction and Flyp.me scams are still operating.

[ePesoInitiative]

Btw, i didnt get new flag system. How can i create a flags?  

Good to hear from you again  

To make a flag against HolyTransaction click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=952969
To make a flag against Flyp.me click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=1022290


You should a flag against both of them and use the third option for both "This user violated a written contract with me, resulting in damages"

This will create a red banner warning others on any thread they start and it is important that these scammers do not get away with it. As a community we must protect each other and the best way is to highlight it here and hope others read the warnings and do not fall in their trap.

Thank you, JollyGood. 
Done.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=657
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=658

I'm calling everyone who is reading this to support my flags. It's very important because HolyTransaction and Flyp.me scams are still operating.

Buddy, you should crosspost this thread in the reputation section and title the topic as "Request for flag support." The flag won't be active unless a default trust member supports it. In your case, I think it needs three DT members.

[ivndnkn]

Btw, i didnt get new flag system. How can i create a flags?  

Good to hear from you again  

To make a flag against HolyTransaction click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=952969
To make a flag against Flyp.me click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=1022290


You should a flag against both of them and use the third option for both "This user violated a written contract with me, resulting in damages"

This will create a red banner warning others on any thread they start and it is important that these scammers do not get away with it. As a community we must protect each other and the best way is to highlight it here and hope others read the warnings and do not fall in their trap.

Thank you, JollyGood. 
Done.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=657
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=658

I'm calling everyone who is reading this to support my flags. It's very important because HolyTransaction and Flyp.me scams are still operating.

Buddy, you should crosspost this thread in the reputation section and title the topic as "Request for flag support." The flag won't be active unless a default trust member supports it. In your case, I think it needs three DT members.

Thank you for advice.
How can i cross-post the thread? Just copy-paste it?

[JollyGood]

Buddy, you should crosspost this thread in the reputation section and title the topic as "Request for flag support." The flag won't be active unless a default trust member supports it. In your case, I think it needs three DT members.

Thank you for advice.
How can i cross-post the thread? Just copy-paste it?

Here is the link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153445.0

Make a post there and add the URL of this thread and ask for support. You already have mine because I am aware of the situation.

Update the thread OP and add these URLs so everybody can see them:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=657
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=658

[ivndnkn]

Buddy, you should crosspost this thread in the reputation section and title the topic as "Request for flag support." The flag won't be active unless a default trust member supports it. In your case, I think it needs three DT members.

Thank you for advice.
How can i cross-post the thread? Just copy-paste it?

Here is the link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153445.0

Make a post there and add the URL of this thread and ask for support. You already have mine because I am aware of the situation.

Update the thread OP and add these URLs so everybody can see them:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=657
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=658

Done.
Now waiting for DT members to support my flags

[ivndnkn]

Good morning.

Just friendly reminder - HolyTransaction and Flyp.Me scammers had not post any single word about this case for about 8 months.
I would like to recommend to never deal with this services in any case.

Please support my flags here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=657
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=658

[MoparMiningLLC]

having processed dozens of transactions using flyp.me - I am glad I have seen this now and will no longer use their services - even though they have not cheated me directly - I do not like the way they are handling these cases of holding people's funds.

[JollyGood]

having processed dozens of transactions using flyp.me - I am glad I have seen this now and will no longer use their services - even though they have not cheated me directly - I do not like the way they are handling these cases of holding people's funds.

They could selective scam anybody at any time. It is best that people avoid these scam exchanges.

[ivndnkn]

having processed dozens of transactions using flyp.me - I am glad I have seen this now and will no longer use their services - even though they have not cheated me directly - I do not like the way they are handling these cases of holding people's funds.

They could selective scam anybody at any time. It is best that people avoid these scam exchanges.

Yes, you are absolutely right.

According to the FlypMe ToS:

Article 25. Permanent withdrawal of Services
HolyTransaction may:
(a) suspend or terminate the Client access to the Services, and
(b) deactivate and/or cancel the Client Swap as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if HolyTransaction reasonably suspects the Client of using his/her Client Swap in furtherance of illegal activity or in violation of any provision laid down by these General Terms and Conditions.
In case of a Pending Transaction when the Client Swap of the Client is cancelled or suspended, the said Transaction may be cancelled and/or refunded as appropriate.
Client may not cancel his/her Client Swap to evade an investigation or avoid paying any amounts otherwise due to HolyTransaction.
Upon cancellation of his/her Client Swap, the Client authorizes HolyTransaction to cancel or suspend Pending Transaction, if technically possible, and return the funds associated with such transactions to the Client’s wallet address.
In the event that the Client or HolyTransaction terminates their relation or the Client’s access to the Services, or deactivates or cancels the Client Swap, the Client will remain liable for all amounts due hereunder.
In the event that a technical problem causes system outage or Client Swap errors, HolyTransaction may temporarily suspend access to the Client Swap and/or the Platform until the problem is resolved.

[r34tr783tr78]

They will have to explain on what reasonable grounds they are holding money for about 1 year when the customer against all reasonable suspicions that the demand for documents was a pure pretext sent all the documents they asked and could invent to ask. In order to be "safe" HolyTransaction should add to their terms "hold customers money everytime they have a high balance and seems profit to steal it".

[JollyGood]

This process has gone on for too long. The only one to lose out has been the victim. He clearly mentioned in the OP he transferred the funds in 2017 so it has been a long time.

In the mean time we have no idea how many others have been selective scammed by these thieves at HolyTransaction / Flyp.Me because their trash websites are still up and running

[mosprognoz]

the company has the right to suspend the user access to the services if the user is in violation of any provision laid down by the T&Cs.

Translation = We can steal your funds any time. Fucking scammers.

[r34tr783tr78]

Lets revive this. I hate these scammers. Op how is going your case? You should keep this thread alive to warn future victims against these scammers.

[r34tr783tr78]

It seems the OP gave up on his case. But I have some scammers on my special list. I will keep attention on them. Clearly crime compensates. They are still online: https://flyp.me https://holytransaction.com/
Taking in account the high amount this says much about the crypto world. Be aware this is a jungle full of scammers like these.

[JollyGood]

The OP was a victim of their scam last logged in to the forum on 22nd October 2019. Yes it looks like as though he gave up, sadly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2132906

It seems the OP gave up on his case. But I have some scammers on my special list. I will keep attention on them. Clearly crime compensates. They are still online: https://flyp.me https://holytransaction.com/
Taking in account the high amount this says much about the crypto world. Be aware this is a jungle full of scammers like these.

[r34tr783tr78]

The OP was a victim of their scam last logged in to the forum on 22nd October 2019. Yes it looks like as though he gave up, sadly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2132906

It seems the OP gave up on his case. But I have some scammers on my special list. I will keep attention on them. Clearly crime compensates. They are still online: https://flyp.me https://holytransaction.com/
Taking in account the high amount this says much about the crypto world. Be aware this is a jungle full of scammers like these.

But the bitcoin world cant ignore this. Scams of 100000 shouldnt be forget. And the scammer and his alts made posts that were evidence of a scam after receiving almost all documents on the book. He even denied the amount and posted the usual trash.

[r34tr783tr78]

This wasnt solved or the OP or they would post about it. I see that you still have the link about this scam on your signature. Good move. I just gave you a positive feedback. Keep on the good work. I wont forget this scammers. They can count with some updates on this thread even if the OP gave up.

[r34tr783tr78]

Im not going to let this thread go down in obscurity. I dont know why the OP gave up on his claim but Im keeping this alive. A scam of 100,000 USD cant be forgotten by the community. The exchange is still in business https://holytransaction.com/

[r34tr783tr78]

8 months passed since the last time I posted on here and this scamming exchange is still in business https://holytransaction.com/. They were able to bury this thread. It doesnt appear in some searchers. Scamming is really a lucrative business in the bitcoin world. They have reviews most likely paid whitewashing them like this guy here https://cryptogeek.info/en/wallets/holytransaction

[r34tr783tr78]

These scammers are too still in business. I found another scam report: https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/614229e9215cfcced266e208. Their positive reviews are almost all 5 stars they should be legit: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/holytransaction.com. HolyTransaction is sending promoting emails promising daily payments. Someone here raising scam suspicions about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/cardano/comments/o2x9v5/got_this_email_from_holytransaction_multiasset/

[r34tr783tr78]

Another six months passed and these scammers keep going on: https://holytransaction.com/
On the real world someone steals 5 bucks and risks jail. On the crypto you steal 100000 and get away with it. Another site full of fake reviews about them almost all 5 stars: https://bittrust.org/holytransaction
I just saw that the OP was online recently. You should give us an update OP.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Another six months passed and these scammers keep going on: https://holytransaction.com/

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here and say that their site is still up (as well as Flyp.me's) because they're not complete scam services--in other words, some people have used them and still do without any problems.  That same statement could be said of a lot of crypto casinos, traditional custodial exchanges, you name it.

I agree that that the below statement sounds like a license to do anything with your funds....but how's that any different than many other crypto services' ToS?

Article 25. Permanent withdrawal of Services
HolyTransaction may:
(a) suspend or terminate the Client access to the Services, and
(b) deactivate and/or cancel the Client Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if HolyTransaction reasonably suspects the Client of using his/her Client Account in furtherance of illegal activity or in violation of any provision laid down by these General Terms and Conditions. [...]

In addition, I only heard basically one side of this story, that of OP's.  I have no idea what really happened between him and these two exchanges.  And since this was all back in 2018, I'm wondering if they're under the same management.

Bumping this thread likely isn't going to do much good--and I haven't searched, but are there tons of complaints against flyp.me and/or holytransaction?  I don't recall seeing many over the years.

[JollyGood]

After I read your post it got me thinking. The truth is the complaints have not piled up against flyp.me or the parent company holy transaction, there have been a few here and there but nothing substantial against them at all but if the OP claimed losses he should have continued his attempts to get his funds back.

This issue was a long time ago, I cannot recall all the associated facts but if the OP has given up on the matter (he last posted in October 2019 even though he last visited here in August 2022) I agree, I think bumping the thread does very little either to highlight the alleged scam or warn people off using flyp.me/holy transaction.

In addition, I only heard basically one side of this story, that of OP's.  I have no idea what really happened between him and these two exchanges.  And since this was all back in 2018, I'm wondering if they're under the same management.

Bumping this thread likely isn't going to do much good--and I haven't searched, but are there tons of complaints against flyp.me and/or holytransaction?  I don't recall seeing many over the years.

[dataispower]

Im not going to let this thread go down in obscurity. I dont know why the OP gave up on his claim but Im keeping this alive. A scam of 100,000 USD cant be forgotten by the community. The exchange is still in business https://holytransaction.com/

I don't really about the scam and when it happened, but base on the amount that is involved in USD it's a pity that the scam is a remarkable something and it can't be forgotten so easily. I will take my time and read it to know more about this, my advice is that if you know that you are of negative side don't allow such amount of money to die off.

Continue making reference of it so that people that is new in bitcointalk will see and learn from what happened. but I'm surprised why you had a red tag. I want if it's because of this issues or it's another problem, because why i ask is because i have not entered or click or your trust.

[nixoid]

Andrii Zamovsky is here.

I'm just here to clear my name since it comes up in search. You can check this account's other messages to validate the authenticity.

Long story short:

I've started NoveltyLab Inc, which was a US-based company in 2013 with Nickolay Babenko, Anton Tovstonozhenko and Francesco Simonetti.

The first two and myself are Ukrainians, Francesco is Italian. No Russians.

NoveltyLab Inc launched HolyTransaction.com, which was the first multi-currency wallet (before tokens were a thing) and operated it for approximately a year.

in 2014 I've resigned from the company and Francesco took over the CEO role.

It looks like things might have gone a bit sideways after that.

To my best knowledge, the IP or other rights were never properly transferred from NoveltyLab Inc to Flyp.me or any other European entities, at least I have not received any notices or dividends.

I don't know what has actually happened, but I hope everyone gets their bitcoins back.

[JollyGood]

This is somewhat of a surprise because your last post in the forum was back in November 2017 and around six months after the most recent post was made in this thread, you have posted here.

If you have no participation with the company but can give some background, can you explain why the parent company was registered in the US as NoveltyLab Inc but somehow multiple European jurisdictions were used to register Holy Transaction and have that as the parent company owner of Flyp.me without any mention of NoveltyLab Inc?

Andrii Zamovsky is here.

I'm just here to clear my name since it comes up in search. You can check this account's other messages to validate the authenticity.

Long story short:

I've started NoveltyLab Inc, which was a US-based company in 2013 with Nickolay Babenko, Anton Tovstonozhenko and Francesco Simonetti.

The first two and myself are Ukrainians, Francesco is Italian. No Russians.

NoveltyLab Inc launched HolyTransaction.com, which was the first multi-currency wallet (before tokens were a thing) and operated it for approximately a year.

in 2014 I've resigned from the company and Francesco took over the CEO role.

It looks like things might have gone a bit sideways after that.

To my best knowledge, the IP or other rights were never properly transferred from NoveltyLab Inc to Flyp.me or any other European entities, at least I have not received any notices or dividends.

I don't know what has actually happened, but I hope everyone gets their bitcoins back.

[nixoid]

This is somewhat of a surprise because your last post in the forum was back in November 2017 and around six months after the most recent post was made in this thread, you have posted here.

I've explained that I was just checking my name in google search and this thread came up.

If you have no participation with the company but can give some background, can you explain why the parent company was registered in the US as NoveltyLab Inc but somehow multiple European jurisdictions were used to register Holy Transaction and have that as the parent company owner of Flyp.me without any mention of NoveltyLab Inc?

As you correctly said I have not been involved in the company since 2014 and have no idea what were they doing in Europe. I have too many other things to worry about - google "Ambisafe", "Orderbook", and "Unicorn tokenization corp".

My best guess is that Francesco decided to abandon the US legal entity and illegally use the code & intellectual property for the Flyp.me without any notices to Noveltylab shareholders (including myself).