Piracy

[Serge]

let me ask you a question:

would you copy a car, if you could? and all it took, was a little bandwidth. would you?

i said it earlier in the thread if pirates had ability to do same thing (taking/using/stealing/copying w/o permission) to tangibles like smartphones, cars and anything else, without repercussion they would do it in a heart-beat. you don't have to be Nostradamus to realize it.

would you do it? the question was not: "would I do it?", because i already know that answer.

i'll retract "pirates" from above comment.

most people would take something if it was free for taking, less people would do it illegally if they knew they could get away with it - and if others see that nothing bad happens to them more would join them in such activity.

if people were ending up in jail for copyright infringement, there would be significantly less piracy going on.  Since there are very little repercussions, a lot of people got used to the idea of free taking something that's not free and now feel self-entitled that world should hand them everything for free conveniently on the plate.

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[kokjo]

let me ask you a question:

would you copy a car, if you could? and all it took, was a little bandwidth. would you?

i said it earlier in the thread if pirates had ability to do same thing (taking/using/stealing/copying w/o permission) to tangibles like smartphones, cars and anything else, without repercussion they would do it in a heart-beat. you don't have to be Nostradamus to realize it.

would you do it? the question was not: "would I do it?", because i already know that answer.

i'll retract "pirates" from above comment.

most people would take something if it was free for taking, less people would do it illegally if they knew they could get away with it - and if others see that nothing bad happens to them more would join them in such activity.

if people were ending up in jail for copyright infringement, there would be significantly less piracy going on.  Since there are very little repercussions, a lot of people got used to the idea of free taking something that's not free and now feel self-entitled that world should hand them everything for free conveniently on the plate.

in the case of the copied car, no one would lose anything.

[Serge]

in the case of the copied car, no one would lose anything.

if i set a price on a copy, i won't be happy you acquiring it for free and it is not legal. arguing copy doesn't hurt anyone is BS in this case - you don't agree to my terms you are free not to use it. looking for ways around it to use for free is simply wrong.

[paraipan]

guys supporting piracy, go pirate open source all you want if you like free so much - i won't say a word.   don't use any copyrighted material if you have no desire to pay for it - it is not made for you.

add value to every "copy", you can't expect to sell worthless copies of your work for ever and get on with your life, we live in a finite world, trying to sell or barter infinite stuff for finite ones doesn't work, you're creating money out of nothing without cost !
yeah agree with you that the starting idea it's yours but try to sell worthless replicas ad infinitum... ppl are not stupid you know

internet it's living the post scarcity age, you can't mix our real material world with it, ever

[kokjo]

in the case of the copied car, no one would lose anything.

if i set a price on a copy, i won't be happy you acquiring it for free and it is not legal. arguing copy doesn't hurt anyone is BS in this case - you don't agree to my terms you are free not to use it. looking for ways around it to use for free is simply wrong.

i have not signed any contract ever when i have buyed a cd. -> no terms apply.

[Serge]

guys supporting piracy, go pirate open source all you want if you like free so much - i won't say a word.   don't use any copyrighted material if you have no desire to pay for it - it is not made for you.

add value to every "copy", you can't expect to sell worthless copies of your work for ever and get on with your life, we live in a finite world, trying to sell or barter infinite stuff for finite ones doesn't work, you're creating money out of nothing without cost !
yeah agree with you that the starting idea it's yours but try to sell worthless replicas ad infinitum... ppl are not stupid you know

internet it's living the post scarcity age, you can't mix our real material world with it, ever

if a copy worthless to you why are you looking for it in the first place ? LOL

[johnj]

if a copy worthless to you why are you looking for it in the first place ? LOL

If it's worthless, why are you getting so butthurt if someone takes it?

LOL 

[Serge]

in the case of the copied car, no one would lose anything.

if i set a price on a copy, i won't be happy you acquiring it for free and it is not legal. arguing copy doesn't hurt anyone is BS in this case - you don't agree to my terms you are free not to use it. looking for ways around it to use for free is simply wrong.

i have not signed any contract ever when i have buyed a cd. -> no terms apply.

you bought copyrighted work and should know what you can and cannot do with it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright

no one will give you right to distribute more copies though at the cost of a single CD, no one sane =)

[Serge]

if a copy worthless to you why are you looking for it in the first place ? LOL

If it's worthless, why are you getting so butthurt if someone takes it?

LOL 

I DID NOT CLAIM WORTHLESS , ask another user why he goes to darknets for hunt of worthless in his view material.

[paraipan]

if a copy worthless to you why are you looking for it in the first place ? LOL

If it's worthless, why are you getting so butthurt if someone takes it?

LOL  

worthless because everyone has the same thing, why bother paying you when when i can "borrow" from my family or friends. Add value to every copy and you will see ppl donate or pay to have them. I will never tell my mom, dad or brother to go buy it's own movie, mp3, ever.

You can't make me  

STFU with your "laws", find a way to monetize on your creations if you're so smart

[johnj]

if a copy worthless to you why are you looking for it in the first place ? LOL

If it's worthless, why are you getting so butthurt if someone takes it?

LOL 

I DID NOT CLAIM WORTHLESS , ask another user why he goes to darknets for hunt of worthless in his view material.

Then if you think it's worth something, you should understand why people pirate it.

D-uhh

 

[Serge]

if a copy worthless to you why are you looking for it in the first place ? LOL

If it's worthless, why are you getting so butthurt if someone takes it?

LOL  

worthless because everyone has the same thing, why bother paying you when when i can "borrow" from my family or friends. Add value to every copy and you will see ppl donate or pay to have them. I will never tell my mom, dad or brother to go buy it's own movie, mp3, ever. You can't make me  

try running real business with real expenses on donations. report back when succeeded.

[paraipan]

if a copy worthless to you why are you looking for it in the first place ? LOL

If it's worthless, why are you getting so butthurt if someone takes it?

LOL  

worthless because everyone has the same thing, why bother paying you when when i can "borrow" from my family or friends. Add value to every copy and you will see ppl donate or pay to have them. I will never tell my mom, dad or brother to go buy it's own movie, mp3, ever. You can't make me  

try running real business with real expenses on donations. report back when succeeded.

i will and will try not to use our flawed banking system in the process, i will stick with bitcoin

[Serge]

if a copy worthless to you why are you looking for it in the first place ? LOL

If it's worthless, why are you getting so butthurt if someone takes it?

LOL 

I DID NOT CLAIM WORTHLESS , ask another user why he goes to darknets for hunt of worthless in his view material.

Then if you think it's worth something, you should understand why people pirate it.

D-uhh

 

i understand fully why people steal stuff when there is a very little chance of being caught .  obviously not over worthless stuff, but something they can't afford while thinking they are entitled to have it for free

[paraipan]

if a copy worthless to you why are you looking for it in the first place ? LOL

If it's worthless, why are you getting so butthurt if someone takes it?

LOL  

I DID NOT CLAIM WORTHLESS , ask another user why he goes to darknets for hunt of worthless in his view material.

Then if you think it's worth something, you should understand why people pirate it.

D-uhh

 

i understand fully why people steal stuff when there is a very little chance of being caught .  obviously not over worthless stuff, but something they can't afford while thinking they are entitled to have it for free

carry on with your meaningless arguments, you could be on the establishment payroll if you ask me, tell your bosses they will never monetize on human communication like they did with on our physical work. You release your work to the public, we recognize you as the creator and will forever remember your name, get over with. If you actually make quality intellectual work everyone will send funds your way and be able to carry on with your work, that simple

[Serge]

if a copy worthless to you why are you looking for it in the first place ? LOL

If it's worthless, why are you getting so butthurt if someone takes it?

LOL  

I DID NOT CLAIM WORTHLESS , ask another user why he goes to darknets for hunt of worthless in his view material.

Then if you think it's worth something, you should understand why people pirate it.

D-uhh

 

i understand fully why people steal stuff when there is a very little chance of being caught .  obviously not over worthless stuff, but something they can't afford while thinking they are entitled to have it for free

carry on with your meaningless arguments, you could be on the establishment payroll if you ask me, tell your bosses they will never monetize on human communication like they did with on our physical work. You release your work to the public, we recognize you as the creator and will forever remember your name, get over with. If you actually make quality intellectual work everyone will send funds your way and be able to carry on with your work, that simple

communism works great on paper. good luck with it!

[paraipan]

if a copy worthless to you why are you looking for it in the first place ? LOL

If it's worthless, why are you getting so butthurt if someone takes it?

LOL  

I DID NOT CLAIM WORTHLESS , ask another user why he goes to darknets for hunt of worthless in his view material.

Then if you think it's worth something, you should understand why people pirate it.

D-uhh

 

i understand fully why people steal stuff when there is a very little chance of being caught .  obviously not over worthless stuff, but something they can't afford while thinking they are entitled to have it for free

carry on with your meaningless arguments, you could be on the establishment payroll if you ask me, tell your bosses they will never monetize on human communication like they did with on our physical work. You release your work to the public, we recognize you as the creator and will forever remember your name, get over with. If you actually make quality intellectual work everyone will send funds your way and be able to carry on with your work, that simple

communism works great on paper

why you derail the topic ? all ppl are shit scared, indoctrinated, about communism to research on their own what was about anyway

Can you make o joke, sing a song or entertain us somehow ... ? maybe i will send some coins your way if you're good at it 

[Serge]

if a copy worthless to you why are you looking for it in the first place ? LOL

If it's worthless, why are you getting so butthurt if someone takes it?

LOL  

I DID NOT CLAIM WORTHLESS , ask another user why he goes to darknets for hunt of worthless in his view material.

Then if you think it's worth something, you should understand why people pirate it.

D-uhh

 

i understand fully why people steal stuff when there is a very little chance of being caught .  obviously not over worthless stuff, but something they can't afford while thinking they are entitled to have it for free

carry on with your meaningless arguments, you could be on the establishment payroll if you ask me, tell your bosses they will never monetize on human communication like they did with on our physical work. You release your work to the public, we recognize you as the creator and will forever remember your name, get over with. If you actually make quality intellectual work everyone will send funds your way and be able to carry on with your work, that simple

communism works great on paper

why you derail the topic ? all ppl are shit scared, indoctrinated, about communism to research on their own what was about anyway

Can you make o joke, sing a song or entertain us somehow ... ? maybe i will send some coins your way if you're good at it  

unlike yours my life does not depend on donations

Quick get back on topic! those crazy police mods will ban us for life for a derailment!

[bitlane]

Can you make o joke, sing a song or entertain us somehow ... ?

If he does, can we make copies of the performance ?

[paraipan]

if a copy worthless to you why are you looking for it in the first place ? LOL

If it's worthless, why are you getting so butthurt if someone takes it?

LOL  

I DID NOT CLAIM WORTHLESS , ask another user why he goes to darknets for hunt of worthless in his view material.

Then if you think it's worth something, you should understand why people pirate it.

D-uhh

 

i understand fully why people steal stuff when there is a very little chance of being caught .  obviously not over worthless stuff, but something they can't afford while thinking they are entitled to have it for free

carry on with your meaningless arguments, you could be on the establishment payroll if you ask me, tell your bosses they will never monetize on human communication like they did with on our physical work. You release your work to the public, we recognize you as the creator and will forever remember your name, get over with. If you actually make quality intellectual work everyone will send funds your way and be able to carry on with your work, that simple

communism works great on paper

why you derail the topic ? all ppl are shit scared, indoctrinated, about communism to research on their own what was about anyway

Can you make o joke, sing a song or entertain us somehow ... ? maybe i will send some coins your way if you're good at it 

unlike yours my life does not depend on donations

then go, do what you're good at, and quit talking things you don't understand...