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January 07, 2019, 11:04:04 AM
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The addiction is the dangerous part of gambling, and we could not realize if we are addicted or not because we are too busy playing the game. And I guess we will realize about the addicting when we don't have anything inside us, and we are shocked to know how much money we use in gambling. But we have a way to stop gamble depends on how strong we want to stop and I am sure if we think about our life, we can stop no matter how hard it is.

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January 07, 2019, 02:19:04 PM
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The addiction is the dangerous part of gambling, and we could not realize if we are addicted or not because we are too busy playing the game. And I guess we will realize about the addicting when we don't have anything inside us, and we are shocked to know how much money we use in gambling. But we have a way to stop gamble depends on how strong we want to stop and I am sure if we think about our life, we can stop no matter how hard it is.
Addiction is indeed the worst thing a gambler might be able to achieve. the reality now is that addiction can damage a person's life, but in my opinion addiction can be avoided as long as we can consider gambling as an entertainment. make our minds relax and not to get a pressure, because with the pressure to always get money it will trigger addiction. control ourselves as well as possible and keep the level of emotional and patience we have. we will succeed from gambling when we can control ourselves as well as possible.
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January 07, 2019, 03:49:52 PM
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I find it especially true with online BTC gambling after a bit more of thinking.

It's not the case for real life casino as there is lots of process (actually going to the casino and all) and the odds are really low. But online gambling is both easy and with high odds so it's really easy to just get addicted to it.

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January 07, 2019, 06:03:33 PM
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I know people who are greedy but never gamble, they are greedy but at the same time reasonable.
Greedy people will go for gambling more frequently and due to the reason of sticking with gambling they may get addicted not just due to the reason of being greedy. But, being greedy is the core reason why they are gambling and finally getting addiction.

Something very few people say is that many addicts have a big ego, their addiction come from this, their ego cannot handle the fact that they lost money, so they always end up chasing their losses. You can easily spot them in casinos.
When greedy people are challenging houses for making more profit, those aggressive people are challenging gambling houses for recovering their losses. At the bottom line, if you have emotion failure while gambling and you cannot control yourself then addiction is the result. No one could escape from this. Being ego is also kind of emotion failure. But, it is a new thing being discussed in gambling board hence need more information regarding this before for sharing what exactly it should be.
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January 07, 2019, 08:09:34 PM
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I know people who are greedy but never gamble, they are greedy but at the same time reasonable.
Greedy people will go for gambling more frequently and due to the reason of sticking with gambling they may get addicted not just due to the reason of being greedy. But, being greedy is the core reason why they are gambling and finally getting addiction.

Something very few people say is that many addicts have a big ego, their addiction come from this, their ego cannot handle the fact that they lost money, so they always end up chasing their losses. You can easily spot them in casinos.
When greedy people are challenging houses for making more profit, those aggressive people are challenging gambling houses for recovering their losses. At the bottom line, if you have emotion failure while gambling and you cannot control yourself then addiction is the result. No one could escape from this. Being ego is also kind of emotion failure. But, it is a new thing being discussed in gambling board hence need more information regarding this before for sharing what exactly it should be.

the danger thing always there for us to solve we need to solve them with our mind and control if we were not ready for that we cannot definitely get into gambling field because it will always be like that if you had the ability to overcome you can definitely do it.
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January 07, 2019, 08:54:12 PM
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I know people who are greedy but never gamble, they are greedy but at the same time reasonable.
Greedy people will go for gambling more frequently and due to the reason of sticking with gambling they may get addicted not just due to the reason of being greedy. But, being greedy is the core reason why they are gambling and finally getting addiction.

Something very few people say is that many addicts have a big ego, their addiction come from this, their ego cannot handle the fact that they lost money, so they always end up chasing their losses. You can easily spot them in casinos.
When greedy people are challenging houses for making more profit, those aggressive people are challenging gambling houses for recovering their losses. At the bottom line, if you have emotion failure while gambling and you cannot control yourself then addiction is the result. No one could escape from this. Being ego is also kind of emotion failure. But, it is a new thing being discussed in gambling board hence need more information regarding this before for sharing what exactly it should be.

the danger thing always there for us to solve we need to solve them with our mind and control if we were not ready for that we cannot definitely get into gambling field because it will always be like that if you had the ability to overcome you can definitely do it.
Greed is dangerous in gambling for those who want to control limits of his/her luck. At the end all this emotions are connected to theory of  gambler's fallacy. Minds are limited to experience,imagination, logic. Logic doesn't let gamblers to lose control when things turn against your plan that contains both money management and possibilty of outcome.
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January 07, 2019, 11:17:38 PM
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The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.
someone who cannot control emotions when gambling if they can double their stakes after suffering a loss, but in fact this is certainly often done by everyone when gambling, the reason may be to try luck to return the capital that has been spent and hope to benefit

My thinking is that there is more at play than danger when games are
being played. Exoectation, hope, excitement, adrenaline, comradeship,
desperation and fear are all emotions which can affect the player.

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January 07, 2019, 11:36:57 PM
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Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

Not just addiction but also the greediness of people to win against the odds. This is the reason why gambling sites these days are very lucrative, greediness and eagerness to win makes people addicted to gambling.

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January 08, 2019, 05:22:51 AM
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The addiction is the dangerous part of gambling, and we could not realize if we are addicted or not because we are too busy playing the game. And I guess we will realize about the addicting when we don't have anything inside us, and we are shocked to know how much money we use in gambling. But we have a way to stop gamble depends on how strong we want to stop and I am sure if we think about our life, we can stop no matter how hard it is.
Addiction is indeed the worst thing a gambler might be able to achieve. the reality now is that addiction can damage a person's life, but in my opinion addiction can be avoided as long as we can consider gambling as an entertainment. make our minds relax and not to get a pressure, because with the pressure to always get money it will trigger addiction. control ourselves as well as possible and keep the level of emotional and patience we have. we will succeed from gambling when we can control ourselves as well as possible.

Absolutely agree with you, we need to remember that gambling is only a game which money involve. Sometimes we win, sometimes we loss, that's it. We don't have to play more and more because of the money attracting because we don't know when we can win the money, and it's better to do something else which can give us money. I still learn to control myself because I am not a perfect person who could always control myself.

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January 08, 2019, 12:06:39 PM
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Not just addiction but also the greediness of people to win against the odds. This is the reason why gambling sites these days are very lucrative, greediness and eagerness to win makes people addicted to gambling.

not only eagerness to win but also the willingness to make fun . yes most of us enjoy gambling in order to past the time but if they hooked in the game too much they didnt even realize that they are already addicted on playing . every game do also have a different set of odds . lottery has a higher odds while most online gambling do have a lower odds which we can easily beat them but then again addiction  will suddenly strike to us  .
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January 08, 2019, 12:16:46 PM
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not only eagerness to win but also the willingness to make fun . yes most of us enjoy gambling in order to past the time but if they hooked in the game too much they didnt even realize that they are already addicted on playing . every game do also have a different set of odds . lottery has a higher odds while most online gambling do have a lower odds which we can easily beat them but then again addiction  will suddenly strike to us  .
When I gamble I always fall for the odds even though I know that winning this odd has less chance. Here is another problem I face. When I lose I double or triple (even more) the bet and if I lose that then I do the same.

So I found both the odds and chasing is the cause of gambling addiction.

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January 08, 2019, 12:24:05 PM
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not only eagerness to win but also the willingness to make fun . yes most of us enjoy gambling in order to past the time but if they hooked in the game too much they didnt even realize that they are already addicted on playing . every game do also have a different set of odds . lottery has a higher odds while most online gambling do have a lower odds which we can easily beat them but then again addiction  will suddenly strike to us  .
When I gamble I always fall for the odds even though I know that winning this odd has less chance. Here is another problem I face. When I lose I double or triple (even more) the bet and if I lose that then I do the same.

So I found both the odds and chasing is the cause of gambling addiction.
Well actually the odds are important. If you think you have 10% chance to win the wager, but the odds will give you a return of 12 times your initial stake, then it is worth it. Too many people forget about this, but this is the right way to consider a wager, in my opinion.

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When I lose I double or triple (even more) the bet and if I lose that then I do the same.

This, is of course not good Smiley martingale, can be good to win money short term but dangerous if you use this strategy too many times.

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January 08, 2019, 12:46:36 PM
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The addiction is the dangerous part of gambling, and we could not realize if we are addicted or not because we are too busy playing the game. And I guess we will realize about the addicting when we don't have anything inside us, and we are shocked to know how much money we use in gambling. But we have a way to stop gamble depends on how strong we want to stop and I am sure if we think about our life, we can stop no matter how hard it is.
do you think players dont know if they have become addicts? I dont think so, of course they know they are addicts, because they are too busy playing? the point of this thread is not how you try to stop. we compare which are more dangerous odds or addiction, I think both are equally dangerous.
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January 08, 2019, 12:55:40 PM
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the danger thing always there for us to solve we need to solve them with our mind and control if we were not ready for that we cannot definitely get into gambling field because it will always be like that if you had the ability to overcome you can definitely do it.
Are you sure ? Who had the ability to overcome the dangers of gambling ? Those gamblers who are able to control themselves ? If so, for how long and why not they bother about controlling themselves for not continuing with gambling ? Your view is just theoretical and when you experience in real time, I believe you will change your opinion for sure.

Everyone is getting into gambling with the confident of controlling themselves and managing their gambling activities into big profits and then having a millionaire life. If all their expectations are happening then there will be no possibility of having an industry in the name of gambling. Gambling is a highly illusional one and most of the gamblers are finding themselves into the problems of gambling because gambling is that much dangerous one.
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January 08, 2019, 06:37:42 PM
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Everyone is getting into gambling with the confident of controlling themselves and managing their gambling activities into big profits and then having a millionaire life. If all their expectations are happening then there will be no possibility of having an industry in the name of gambling. Gambling is a highly illusional one and most of the gamblers are finding themselves into the problems of gambling because gambling is that much dangerous one.
Gambling is known for collapsing all your plans and confident hence you cannot expect to remain yourself while gambling because you will become a completely different person once started with gambling and you will never find chances to execute your original plan as nothing will go on your way. Losing self control and listening to our emotions are the usual things every gambler will experience once they start with gambling.

Expecting unrealistic things from gambling is the core reason why gamblers are getting addicted. Coming back to the point of OP, due to the involvement of houses in terms of odds, gamblers are struggling to find success against the house. And this become a reason why they keep trying with gambling and it is becoming as a habit and then addiction.
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January 10, 2019, 11:09:02 AM
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Agree with that much addiction is dangerous for gambling. It's not only gambling everywhere its appropriate. But to be honest somhow we are little bit addicted somewhere. Like someone on gambling someone on trading and so on. But I know gambling addiction isn't normal addiction. If in case gambler losed money and he don't have money to play next game then he will be made for borrow from somewhere. I have experienced on offline as well on online also. So prevent addiction isn't easy on gambling although all we are not addicted yet.

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January 10, 2019, 05:21:54 PM
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Agree with that much addiction is dangerous for gambling. It's not only gambling everywhere its appropriate. But to be honest somhow we are little bit addicted somewhere. Like someone on gambling someone on trading and so on. But I know gambling addiction isn't normal addiction. If in case gambler losed money and he don't have money to play next game then he will be made for borrow from somewhere. I have experienced on offline as well on online also. So prevent addiction isn't easy on gambling although all we are not addicted yet.
Not only in gambling but even in all aspects of life,addiction will not really help us in any ways.Gambling addiction can really be avoided if you want.You are the sole controller of your gambling lifestyle so learn to discipline yourself.Never gamble if you don't have extra money in your pocket because that will really cause you trouble at the end of the day.Gambling is not that bad but atleast you should know your limits too.

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January 14, 2019, 07:01:12 AM
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The addiction is the dangerous part of gambling, and we could not realize if we are addicted or not because we are too busy playing the game. And I guess we will realize about the addicting when we don't have anything inside us, and we are shocked to know how much money we use in gambling. But we have a way to stop gamble depends on how strong we want to stop and I am sure if we think about our life, we can stop no matter how hard it is.
do you think players dont know if they have become addicts? I dont think so, of course they know they are addicts, because they are too busy playing? the point of this thread is not how you try to stop. we compare which are more dangerous odds or addiction, I think both are equally dangerous.

They know, but they don't realize if they become addicts. And if they know and realize, why they continue to play gambling games? They should stop themselves from the gambling games IF they know the risk and they realize that in the gambling games, they cannot win the money with easy. I know the addiction is more dangerous than the odds, but most gamblers don't know if they are addicted to gambling or not. The odds itself are not as dangerous as you think because if we can stop and don't play, then we don't have to worry about the addiction.

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January 14, 2019, 07:15:19 AM
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I know the addiction is more dangerous than the odds, but most gamblers don't know if they are addicted to gambling or not. The odds itself are not as dangerous as you think because if we can stop and don't play, then we don't have to worry about the addiction.
Odds are working in favor of gambling houses and that is the reason most gamblers are believing that odds are the root-cause for their losses. But we must realize what is pushing ourselves into gambling and what do enforce ourselves to be sticking within gambling all the times, for all these the answer must be gambling addiction. This is what OP is emphasizing us on how dangerous that addiction compared to odds.

Fortunately we can handle our gambling addictions but odds are beyond our reach. I mean to say we can avoid gambling addictions or we can find methods to recover from gambling addictions but we cannot do anything about odds as it's a fixed one and no gambler can do anything about that.
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January 14, 2019, 07:18:43 AM
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I think it starts with the odds, having thought of your money being multiplied by millions, which has a small chance, even smaller chance than being struck by a lightning bolt. (Popular belief). Starting it like that could eventually become a habit. Once it becomes a habit, it’s already a part of your daily routine, or weekly, depending on your status. If you keep thinking about it and you cannot manage your day without having to do it, then it could already be an addiction.

I think everyone has known or seen someone with addiction. Even with varying types of addiction, the main thing is that it’s still addiction and people need help.

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