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March 21, 2014, 10:32:41 PM
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block height of 14378 at bitember
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March 21, 2014, 10:33:12 PM
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How come pool operators let this shit happen? Also, still no complete answer to my questions about the PoS details.. anybody?
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March 21, 2014, 10:40:29 PM
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Also, still no complete answer to my questions about the PoS details.. anybody?
Look at post #1196!
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March 21, 2014, 10:40:32 PM
Last edit: March 21, 2014, 10:56:08 PM by moonpool
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forked again maybe?

this coin is notorious for multifork

Guys...I'm really afraid we forked.

The last block cloudminers found was 14398.
The last block on the block crawler is 14378.
You mean, you forked. There's nothing we can do about a giant multipool jumping on, getting a large chain and forking the network.
We have to take their chain no matter what if it's the largest.
If they get a string of 20 blocks and submit it, their chain is the largest, especially if they have a large amount of connections to the network.

Not sure what you mean about network fork.
   "blocks" : 14386,
  "connections" : 6,

    "blocks" : 14386,
  "connections" : 81,
On multiple wallets.

Edit: Now it's 14387, its moving fine on multiple wallets. I'm going to make a pool page to try to account for this network hashrate: 1.37 GH/s
Your pool alone has 740.88MH, thats quite ridiculous, and beyond 51%, if a multipool jumps on, you cause the network to fork every time they do if you are accepting their chain and moving it forward.
Do you really not get why you are getting so many orphans?
Why does your pool have so much hash anyways? Not sure what that is about.
 "blocks" : 14396,
Your pool yourself took the multipools chain, too many people accepted whoever jumped on with a large amount of hash:
http://flt.cloudminers.net/index.php?page=statistics Current Block    14396

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March 21, 2014, 10:51:45 PM
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Also, still no complete answer to my questions about the PoS details.. anybody?
Look at post #1196!

Sorry about that, somehow missed that post. thank you!
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March 21, 2014, 10:57:27 PM
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forked again maybe?

this coin is notorious for multifork

Guys...I'm really afraid we forked.

The last block cloudminers found was 14398.
The last block on the block crawler is 14378.
You mean, you forked. There's nothing we can do about a giant multipool jumping on, getting a large chain and forking the network.
We have to take their chain no matter what if it's the largest.
If they get a string of 20 blocks and submit it, their chain is the largest, especially if they have a large amount of connections to the network.

Not sure what you mean about network fork.
   "blocks" : 14386,
  "connections" : 6,

    "blocks" : 14386,
  "connections" : 81,
On multiple wallets.

Edit: Now it's 14387, its moving fine on multiple wallets. I'm going to make a pool page to try to account for this network hashrate: 1.37 GH/s
Your pool alone has 740.88MH, thats quite ridiculous, and beyond 51%, if a multipool jumps on, you cause the network to fork every time they do if you are accepting their chain and moving it forward.
Do you really not get why you are getting so many orphans?
Why does your pool have so much hash anyways? Not sure what that is about.

    "blocks" : 14393,
Your pool yourself took the multipools chain, too many people accepted whoever jumped on with a large amount of hash: (Current Block    14394)

http://explorer.fluttercoin.us/

This is the be all end all block height.   If they fork off because of hashrate issues etc, they need to re-download their blockchain...

They will start getting reigned in by invalid checkpointing.  We use central checkpointing.

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March 21, 2014, 11:00:41 PM
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http://explorer.fluttercoin.us/

This is the be all end all block height.   If they fork off because of hashrate issues etc, they need to re-download their blockchain...

They will start getting reigned in by invalid checkpointing.  We use central checkpointing.
It's not a client issue.
Cloudminers clearly have more than 51% of the network and are constantly getting too far ahead in the chain if you look at their block page, other pools are obviously mining and probably getting two blocks in a row, submitting that chain, and causing them to get too far ahead and end up with orphans:
http://flt.cloudminers.net/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks

Edit: All someone has to do is match your hashrate (700MH+, which a lot of multipools have) and you got a forked chain/orphans.

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March 21, 2014, 11:01:59 PM
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forked again maybe?

this coin is notorious for multifork
pools - specifically stratum pools caused every issue this coin has seen, including block stalls (which is my I am having to mod the statum-mining code to work), etc.  Forks are caused 100% by lopsided hashrate.

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March 21, 2014, 11:02:46 PM
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http://explorer.fluttercoin.us/

This is the be all end all block height.   If they fork off because of hashrate issues etc, they need to re-download their blockchain...

They will start getting reigned in by invalid checkpointing.  We use central checkpointing.
It's not a client issue.
Cloudminers clearly have more than 51% of the network and are constantly getting too far ahead in the chain if you look at their block page, other pools are obviously mining and probably getting two blocks in a row, submitting that chain, and causing them to get too far ahead and end up with orphans:
http://flt.cloudminers.net/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks


^ this

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March 21, 2014, 11:06:13 PM
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Hey all, sorry for the stupid question: What is the PoS setup for this coin? (when does it start, what coinage is required to stake, what is the % reward?). Sorry if this is already posted somewhere obvious.

Thanks

Anybody know? I don't see this info on the OP.

The dev answered once in the old thread: stake age is 30/90 days, PoS reward initially is 100%, and the coin uses the NVCS model (read more about it here).

I'd strongly advise thekidcoin to finally add all the necessary info (concerning PoT and PoS) to the OP, as these questions WILL be asked again, and again, and again... and again!

can someone elaborate a little on what 30/90 means for stake age? is that you have to wait a minimum of 30 days, or up to a maximum of 90 days to get your stake? so it's random between those days?
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March 21, 2014, 11:07:14 PM
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http://explorer.fluttercoin.us/

This is the be all end all block height.   If they fork off because of hashrate issues etc, they need to re-download their blockchain...

They will start getting reigned in by invalid checkpointing.  We use central checkpointing.
It's not a client issue.
Cloudminers clearly have more than 51% of the network and are constantly getting too far ahead in the chain if you look at their block page, other pools are obviously mining and probably getting two blocks in a row, submitting that chain, and causing them to get too far ahead and end up with orphans:
http://flt.cloudminers.net/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks


^ this
14399
14398

14394
14389
14388

14384
14380
14368
14363
14362

Cloudminers may be causing their own chain to orphan, just saying.

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March 21, 2014, 11:17:14 PM
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Hey all, sorry for the stupid question: What is the PoS setup for this coin? (when does it start, what coinage is required to stake, what is the % reward?). Sorry if this is already posted somewhere obvious.

Thanks

Anybody know? I don't see this info on the OP.

The dev answered once in the old thread: stake age is 30/90 days, PoS reward initially is 100%, and the coin uses the NVCS model (read more about it here).

I'd strongly advise thekidcoin to finally add all the necessary info (concerning PoT and PoS) to the OP, as these questions WILL be asked again, and again, and again... and again!

can someone elaborate a little on what 30/90 means for stake age? is that you have to wait a minimum of 30 days, or up to a maximum of 90 days to get your stake? so it's random between those days?
30 days is the minimum 90 days max reward, reward is roughly 5%.  Same as PPC except for the 5% instead of 1% minimum

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March 21, 2014, 11:18:59 PM
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http://peercoin.net/minting

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March 21, 2014, 11:22:03 PM
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http://explorer.fluttercoin.us/

This is the be all end all block height.   If they fork off because of hashrate issues etc, they need to re-download their blockchain...

They will start getting reigned in by invalid checkpointing.  We use central checkpointing.
It's not a client issue.
Cloudminers clearly have more than 51% of the network and are constantly getting too far ahead in the chain if you look at their block page, other pools are obviously mining and probably getting two blocks in a row, submitting that chain, and causing them to get too far ahead and end up with orphans:
http://flt.cloudminers.net/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks


^ this
14399
14398

14394
14389
14388

14384
14380
14368
14363
14362

Cloudminers may be causing their own chain to orphan, just saying.

They are for sure... forks to worry about are ones caused by other reasons like trying to use true random (un-seeded) rewards, the difficulty issue last year with CAPS, etc.  All our issues were stratum related.

Will release the details on those issues, updates (including stratum-mining code update for this coin), ASAP.

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March 21, 2014, 11:23:28 PM
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"Minting can be performed by running a full node of the client"

what does that mean? just leaving your wallet running?
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March 21, 2014, 11:39:40 PM
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I closed the registrations temporarily at Cloudminers.
Guys spread the hash among the pools.

I love it that Cloudminers is one of the biggest pools, but lets keep it under 51%.

Cloudminers - Mining Pools - http://cloudminers.net
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March 22, 2014, 02:44:43 AM
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I closed the registrations temporarily at Cloudminers.
Guys spread the hash among the pools.

I love it that Cloudminers is one of the biggest pools, but lets keep it under 51%.
Cloudminers has 0.6GH/s out of a 5GH/s network, it's not even close to 50%...

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March 22, 2014, 03:28:40 AM
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Come and spread some of the hash rate around and mine with the UK-based
CrunchHarder FLTCoin Pool for security, redundancy and stability.


https://flt.crunchharder.net


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March 22, 2014, 05:24:03 AM
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Just a comment on the latest in terms of value.

There are endless buys for this coin between 400-800 the last few days. The volume is still huge.
This leads me to believe large buyers have future intentions for price.

If it's a few days or a few weeks - that remains to be seen. They would need to get market share to push
the price into the millions for market cap. 1-3 million $ cap.

So time will tell. Looks like a mass buying period with some intentional downward pressure on price.

So look great - just a matter of time.
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March 22, 2014, 05:33:18 AM
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that spaincoin seems to be losing some steam. i wonder how long until those people start hopping on fluttercoin
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