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March 16, 2014, 02:18:14 PM
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Its getting stuck only because hashrate is dropping off FYI all, no other reason.

For example:

For example look at NVC.  It had 10 minute blocks and a 24 hour 200% adjustment max window (max difficulty can go is 200% increase in 144 blocks)

FLT had 2 minute blocks and a 4 hour 200% max adjustment window (max difficulty can go is 200% increase in 144 blocks).

A lot of the hashrate may not even be legit - I remember someone remarking that one pool had a lot of hashrate, yet the network didn't report it (but it did earlier) - and they thought they were forked, but they weren't.

I have contacted all pool operators that I know of with the reason for this.  If you see anyone mining in a pool with a HUGE hashrate, report them - they have no business being in a pool, and just may not have that hashrate at all.



Huh I see many other coins that have a handful of huge hashrates on a couple of miners without this problem.... is it possible that it's being amplified by the POB stuff? You can't just say huge hashrates can't mine a coin.... when there aren't alternatives like a p2pool or something ?

If I knew how, i'd set one up to see if that helps things.. but i would think something else is going on...



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March 16, 2014, 02:33:32 PM
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Cloudminers down?
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March 16, 2014, 03:30:45 PM
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hashpower is going back up. i wouldn't be surprised if we hit 5gh today

We would be at that already if there wasn't a block problem seems to be putting people off.
There is no block problem... look at the difficulty of the stuck blocks when they are finally found, and the next block immediately after.  Note the difficulty drop (which means hashrate drop)

But the difficulty is not that great to be having 3+ hour blocks, unless there's a display problem... when it gets above 30 (still not that high) is when it seems to be sticking. Hell, AUR had like 400+ diff and blocks were getting cracked faster... I do think there's some issue happening here.

You know i've been supporting this for a while!

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Cloudminers down?

bitember also

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I just fixed cloudminers.

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Do you pool owners have any thoughts on these stuck blocks?

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          hashpower is going back up. i wouldn't be surprised if we hit 5gh today

          We would be at that already if there wasn't a block problem seems to be putting people off.
          There is no block problem... look at the difficulty of the stuck blocks when they are finally found, and the next block immediately after.  Note the difficulty drop (which means hashrate drop)

          • ID   1,288   Height   10,867   Amount   6,061   Confirmations   Confirmed
            Difficulty   41.25640906   Time   2014-03-16 07:34:46   Shares   26,453   Finder   anonymous
          • ID   1,290   Height   10,869   Amount   1,786   Confirmations   Confirmed
            Difficulty   41.8433359   Time   2014-03-16 07:36:21   Shares   71,847   Finder   anonymous
          • ID   1,291   Height   10,870   Amount   2,488   Confirmations   Confirmed
            Difficulty   42.6003626   Time   2014-03-16 10:33:45   Shares   11,233,453   Finder   anonymous
          • ID   1,292   Height   10,871   Amount   5,028   Confirmations   Confirmed
            Difficulty   17.38400962   Time   2014-03-16 10:33:49   Shares   2   Finder   anonymous
          • ID   1,296   Height   10,873   Amount   8,018   Confirmations   Confirmed
            Difficulty   17.51475139   Time   2014-03-16 10:37:05   Shares   113,764   Finder   
          How come block 10867,10869 is normal than with the same diff?
          [/list][/list][/list][/list]

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          March 16, 2014, 04:15:27 PM
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          I'd just like to be able to leave my rig on FLT. I still don't think this is a hashrate/diff problem and would like to see some potential attempts to solve it...

          Maybe look into implementing the DigiWave thing the DOGE people are putting in place in lieu of KGW (which can be exploited too), which would help as the coin gains more attention.

          Some reference links:


          http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/13/dogecoin-forks-again-to-avoid-multipool-exploit/

          http://www.reddit.com/r/Digibyte/comments/1yn6t1/digibyte_v_20_code_name_digishield/

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          March 16, 2014, 04:17:35 PM
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                  hashpower is going back up. i wouldn't be surprised if we hit 5gh today

                  We would be at that already if there wasn't a block problem seems to be putting people off.
                  There is no block problem... look at the difficulty of the stuck blocks when they are finally found, and the next block immediately after.  Note the difficulty drop (which means hashrate drop)

                  • ID   1,288   Height   10,867   Amount   6,061   Confirmations   Confirmed
                    Difficulty   41.25640906   Time   2014-03-16 07:34:46   Shares   26,453   Finder   anonymous
                  • ID   1,290   Height   10,869   Amount   1,786   Confirmations   Confirmed
                    Difficulty   41.8433359   Time   2014-03-16 07:36:21   Shares   71,847   Finder   anonymous
                  • ID   1,291   Height   10,870   Amount   2,488   Confirmations   Confirmed
                    Difficulty   42.6003626   Time   2014-03-16 10:33:45   Shares   11,233,453   Finder   anonymous
                  • ID   1,292   Height   10,871   Amount   5,028   Confirmations   Confirmed
                    Difficulty   17.38400962   Time   2014-03-16 10:33:49   Shares   2   Finder   anonymous
                  • ID   1,296   Height   10,873   Amount   8,018   Confirmations   Confirmed
                    Difficulty   17.51475139   Time   2014-03-16 10:37:05   Shares   113,764   Finder   
                  How come block 10867,10869 is normal than with the same diff?
                  [/list][/list][/list][/list]
                  Don't follow what your saying

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                  March 16, 2014, 04:18:00 PM
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                  I'll stop posting after this for the day, but BTER was having issues with the chain too:

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                  FLT deposit/withdrawal are disabled temporarily due to the slow network confirmation. We are investigating it.


                  Then:

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                  Fluttercoin(FLT) deposit/withdrawal are re-enabled. More confirmations are required for deposits to protect us from blockchain roll back.

                  This type of stuff will scare people away from the coin.

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                          hashpower is going back up. i wouldn't be surprised if we hit 5gh today

                          We would be at that already if there wasn't a block problem seems to be putting people off.
                          There is no block problem... look at the difficulty of the stuck blocks when they are finally found, and the next block immediately after.  Note the difficulty drop (which means hashrate drop)

                          • ID   1,288   Height   10,867   Amount   6,061   Confirmations   Confirmed
                            Difficulty   41.25640906   Time   2014-03-16 07:34:46   Shares   26,453   Finder   anonymous
                          • ID   1,290   Height   10,869   Amount   1,786   Confirmations   Confirmed
                            Difficulty   41.8433359   Time   2014-03-16 07:36:21   Shares   71,847   Finder   anonymous
                          • ID   1,291   Height   10,870   Amount   2,488   Confirmations   Confirmed
                            Difficulty   42.6003626   Time   2014-03-16 10:33:45   Shares   11,233,453   Finder   anonymous
                          • ID   1,292   Height   10,871   Amount   5,028   Confirmations   Confirmed
                            Difficulty   17.38400962   Time   2014-03-16 10:33:49   Shares   2   Finder   anonymous
                          • ID   1,296   Height   10,873   Amount   8,018   Confirmations   Confirmed
                            Difficulty   17.51475139   Time   2014-03-16 10:37:05   Shares   113,764   Finder   
                          How come block 10867,10869 is normal than with the same diff?
                          [/list][/list][/list][/list]
                          Don't follow what your saying

                          If u say it is because of the diff of the block, why block 10867,10869 is finding it alot faster with the "same" difficulty?
                          See the share differences.

                          Another stuck block?

                          Current Difficulty   29.75566844
                          Est. Next Difficulty   29.75566844 (Change in 1 Blocks)
                          Est. Avg. Time per Round (Network)   1 minute
                          Est. Avg. Time per Round (Pool)   2 minutes 1 second
                          Est. Shares this Round   121879 (done: 1866.98%)
                          Next Network Block   11079    (Current: 11078)
                          Last Block Found   11075
                          Time Since Last Block   37 minutes 43 seconds

                          switching my rented rigs  Sad

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                          March 16, 2014, 04:31:13 PM
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                          Is something up?

                          Been 40 minutes+ since last block on 3 pools I've been watching.  Huh

                           
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                          March 16, 2014, 04:37:13 PM
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                          I'd just like to be able to leave my rig on FLT. I still don't think this is a hashrate/diff problem and would like to see some potential attempts to solve it...

                          Maybe look into implementing the DigiWave thing the DOGE people are putting in place in lieu of KGW (which can be exploited too), which would help as the coin gains more attention.

                          Some reference links:


                          http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/13/dogecoin-forks-again-to-avoid-multipool-exploit/

                          http://www.reddit.com/r/Digibyte/comments/1yn6t1/digibyte_v_20_code_name_digishield/



                          Its very clear what it is, blocks don't just magically get stuck LOL, they are just too difficult to find when the hashrate drops 50% + what the calculated difficulty was (which is exactly what these exploits can do).

                          For example say hashrate is supposedly 2 gH, and a block is calculated to be 50 difficulty, then suddely the hash drops to 1 gH, what happens it is VERY difficulty to mine the block at 1gH

                          This is one thing that was brought to my attention yesterday - which explains why pools on the correct chain were showing much more hashrate than was reported on the rest of the network https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513382.0

                          I am definitely looking into these things, but remember, dogecoin is a POW coin I believe - there are a lot more moving parts in this coin...  If anyone knows people like Sunny King, Balthazar etc and is willing to ask them to take a look, it would be appreciated.  Or any other Dev that can make an educated guess for that matter.

                          We definitely will need to fork the coin in the next week - there are other things I want to put a stop to - not fix, but adjust for the better- so whatever this fix is it will be rolled in the next few days and the fork will happen no earlier than 7 days forward - unless we can get agreement with bter, and all pools to implement the update quickly.  Any ideas on the warning/window needed to implement a mandatory fix is also appreciated - if it can be done with 3 days warning or so, thats fine too.  Bter really is the key.


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                          March 16, 2014, 04:39:39 PM
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                          I'd just like to be able to leave my rig on FLT. I still don't think this is a hashrate/diff problem and would like to see some potential attempts to solve it...

                          Maybe look into implementing the DigiWave thing the DOGE people are putting in place in lieu of KGW (which can be exploited too), which would help as the coin gains more attention.

                          Some reference links:


                          http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/13/dogecoin-forks-again-to-avoid-multipool-exploit/

                          http://www.reddit.com/r/Digibyte/comments/1yn6t1/digibyte_v_20_code_name_digishield/



                          Please don't even think about implementing DigiShield in this coin.
                          Its even worse than KGW for smaller coins.
                          Will maybe work fine for Doge but it will kill Flutter for sure.

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                          no blocks again!
                          and no tran,no confirm,no trade!
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                          I'd just like to be able to leave my rig on FLT. I still don't think this is a hashrate/diff problem and would like to see some potential attempts to solve it...

                          Maybe look into implementing the DigiWave thing the DOGE people are putting in place in lieu of KGW (which can be exploited too), which would help as the coin gains more attention.

                          Some reference links:


                          http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/13/dogecoin-forks-again-to-avoid-multipool-exploit/

                          http://www.reddit.com/r/Digibyte/comments/1yn6t1/digibyte_v_20_code_name_digishield/



                          I also think that we need to fix something here and do it as soon as possible. But first we need to locate the problem. In my opinion it is difficulty retargeting scheme. Did anyone see a similar problem in another forks?
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                          same here no confirm, I event cant get into the web interface, it keeps showing the login page. Even resetted my password.. cryptotrain anyone else?
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                          I'd just like to be able to leave my rig on FLT. I still don't think this is a hashrate/diff problem and would like to see some potential attempts to solve it...

                          Maybe look into implementing the DigiWave thing the DOGE people are putting in place in lieu of KGW (which can be exploited too), which would help as the coin gains more attention.

                          Some reference links:


                          http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/13/dogecoin-forks-again-to-avoid-multipool-exploit/

                          http://www.reddit.com/r/Digibyte/comments/1yn6t1/digibyte_v_20_code_name_digishield/



                          Its very clear what it is, blocks don't just magically get stuck LOL, they are just too difficult to find when the hashrate drops 50% + what the calculated difficulty was (which is exactly what these exploits can do).

                          For example say hashrate is supposedly 2 gH, and a block is calculated to be 50 difficulty, then suddely the hash drops to 1 gH, what happens it is VERY difficulty to mine the block at 1gH

                          This is one thing that was brought to my attention yesterday - which explains why pools on the correct chain were showing much more hashrate than was reported on the rest of the network https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513382.0

                          I am definitely looking into these things, but remember, dogecoin is a POW coin I believe - there are a lot more moving parts in this coin...  If anyone knows people like Sunny King, Balthazar etc and is willing to ask them to take a look, it would be appreciated.  Or any other Dev that can make an educated guess for that matter.

                          We definitely will need to fork the coin in the next week - there are other things I want to put a stop to - not fix, but adjust for the better- so whatever this fix is it will be rolled in the next few days and the fork will happen no earlier than 7 days forward - unless we can get agreement with bter, and all pools to implement the update quickly.  Any ideas on the warning/window needed to implement a mandatory fix is also appreciated - if it can be done with 3 days warning or so, thats fine too.  Bter really is the key.



                          PM me the date and time when you want to fork.
                          I will make sure to update the wallet on the pool.

                          I suggest after 7PM GMT +1.

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                          During the stuck block, i was sending coins to bter.com and also receiving coins from the pool..but it isn't even confirmed (they were grayed out) .
                          Now i deleted everything except wallet.dat en conf and resyncing again...i think bter.com got the same problem if a block is stuck?

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                                  hashpower is going back up. i wouldn't be surprised if we hit 5gh today

                                  We would be at that already if there wasn't a block problem seems to be putting people off.
                                  There is no block problem... look at the difficulty of the stuck blocks when they are finally found, and the next block immediately after.  Note the difficulty drop (which means hashrate drop)

                                  • ID   1,288   Height   10,867   Amount   6,061   Confirmations   Confirmed
                                    Difficulty   41.25640906   Time   2014-03-16 07:34:46   Shares   26,453   Finder   anonymous
                                  • ID   1,290   Height   10,869   Amount   1,786   Confirmations   Confirmed
                                    Difficulty   41.8433359   Time   2014-03-16 07:36:21   Shares   71,847   Finder   anonymous
                                  • ID   1,291   Height   10,870   Amount   2,488   Confirmations   Confirmed
                                    Difficulty   42.6003626   Time   2014-03-16 10:33:45   Shares   11,233,453   Finder   anonymous
                                  • ID   1,292   Height   10,871   Amount   5,028   Confirmations   Confirmed
                                    Difficulty   17.38400962   Time   2014-03-16 10:33:49   Shares   2   Finder   anonymous
                                  • ID   1,296   Height   10,873   Amount   8,018   Confirmations   Confirmed
                                    Difficulty   17.51475139   Time   2014-03-16 10:37:05   Shares   113,764   Finder   
                                  How come block 10867,10869 is normal than with the same diff?
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                                  Don't follow what your saying

                                  If u say it is because of the diff of the block, why block 10867,10869 is finding it alot faster with the "same" difficulty?
                                  See the share differences.

                                  Another stuck block?

                                  Current Difficulty   29.75566844
                                  Est. Next Difficulty   29.75566844 (Change in 1 Blocks)
                                  Est. Avg. Time per Round (Network)   1 minute
                                  Est. Avg. Time per Round (Pool)   2 minutes 1 second
                                  Est. Shares this Round   121879 (done: 1866.98%)
                                  Next Network Block   11079    (Current: 11078)
                                  Last Block Found   11075
                                  Time Since Last Block   37 minutes 43 seconds

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                                  Because the stuck block difficulty will be much lower - the blocks you point out were found fast.

                                  Wait will the next block hits, not the difficuly, then look at the block immediately after - see the difficulty, and you will see what I mean.

                                  There are some things I'm looking at as organizer pointed out...  not to worry.  We will get through this.

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