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January 18, 2019, 09:09:59 PM
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This is a really cool tool, thanks for the share
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January 18, 2019, 10:14:53 PM
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Assuming you already have the 8 camel case english words, how to convert it to private key format ?, Thanks.

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January 19, 2019, 03:53:07 AM
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There are almost 850k combinations of 8 words that have 32 characters (like 4 2 4 8 2 5 2 5).

https://filebin.net/pko3eyxrha59wdk3

Considering words with max 8 letters.
If we remove unlikely combinations (like 1 1 1 1 4 8 8 8 ) it can be reduced 2-3 times but with hundreds of possible words for every word length, there are still way too many combinations to go through.

it is not hundreds it is at least billions of possibilities because when you are brute forcing it like this you don't know the sequence of the words so if you choose a result like A B C D E F G H (where a,b,.. are words) then it alone has 40,320 (8!) cases (eg: ABCDEFGH, ABCDEFHG, ABCDEHGF,...) then you have to also add the variation of each word. meaning A (if it is a 2 letter word) may be at least a couple of thousand words. and that is true for each word.
it simply is impossible to brute force this without having at least 5 or 6 words of it.

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January 19, 2019, 08:17:26 AM
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There are almost 850k combinations of 8 words that have 32 characters (like 4 2 4 8 2 5 2 5).

https://filebin.net/pko3eyxrha59wdk3

Considering words with max 8 letters.
If we remove unlikely combinations (like 1 1 1 1 4 8 8 8 ) it can be reduced 2-3 times but with hundreds of possible words for every word length, there are still way too many combinations to go through.

I think i know how to reduce the combinations. Sort it by sum of differences from 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4. The new list looks like:

Code:
000 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
002 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 5
002 3 4 4 4 4 4 5 4
002 3 4 4 4 4 5 4 4
002 3 4 4 4 5 4 4 4
002 3 4 4 5 4 4 4 4
002 3 4 5 4 4 4 4 4
002 3 5 4 4 4 4 4 4
002 4 3 4 4 4 4 4 5
...

The correct solution is likely to be in top 10 000 of such a list. Maybe in top 1000
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January 19, 2019, 11:12:43 AM
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LOL @ everybody talking about brute forcing the answer.

Why not just try to use your brain to solve the riddle?

The only thing that makes me thinks the words might be out of order is the Natasha Otomski part. Otherwise, its likely that the words are in order and one is spelled in an anagram.

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January 19, 2019, 01:27:41 PM
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hmm, every i see the BTC puzzle about private key i dont have any idea how to solve this, and every time i read the comment box, i never understand they said, like the clue and any ansewer on the comment box dont give any clue for me

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January 19, 2019, 03:40:08 PM
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my approach
start with shit solution

SheIsCombingWithTheCombFeelsGood

then you can replace "The" with "A"
fill the extra space with new words

SheIsCombingWithACombThatMagical

then you can reorder

ACombThatMagicalSheIsCombingWith

or even

AMagicalCombThatSheIsCombingWith

put back "The", change "Magical" to "Magic"

TheMagicCombThatSheIsCombingWith

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January 19, 2019, 05:58:04 PM
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I think it would be great if the TS would give us at least the first word, unless its a dead giveaway of the puzzle.

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January 19, 2019, 07:39:07 PM
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Can anybody tell me what these are the one in bold red? Could it be part of the puzzle?

WhyTheCombOfNatashaOtomoskiHas21Teeth?.txt

G/cbms/K/DNzcRin5v2B03iXdbpdVoZbTebt7KG95j3FUqnJvcP9rDYcGpSV27RLspR7SlPjqma4h0tDAMwovIo=
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January 19, 2019, 07:47:12 PM
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Can anybody tell me what these are the one in bold red? Could it be part of the puzzle?

WhyTheCombOfNatashaOtomoskiHas21Teeth?.txt
This can be part of the puzzle.

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January 19, 2019, 07:59:20 PM
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Can anybody tell me what these are the one in bold red? Could it be part of the puzzle?

WhyTheCombOfNatashaOtomoskiHas21Teeth?.txt
This can be part of the puzzle.

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G/cbms/K/DNzcRin5v2B03iXdbpdVoZbTebt7KG95j3FUqnJvcP9rDYcGpSV27RLspR7SlPjqma4h0tDAMwovIo=[/b][/color]
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Thanks LoyceV. Now I can disregard "G/cbms/K/DNzcRin5v2B03iXdbpdVoZbTebt7KG95j3FUqnJvcP9rDYcGpSV27RLspR7SlPjqma4h0tDAMwovIo" and just focus on the rest.
What I know is that .txt is the file format for notepads. Could involve on creating a new file in notepad.
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January 20, 2019, 12:58:11 AM
Last edit: January 20, 2019, 01:22:08 AM by BitcoinFX
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Comb binders / ring binders often have 21 teeth ...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comb_binding

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January 20, 2019, 04:01:17 AM
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LOL @ everybody talking about brute forcing the answer.

Why not just try to use your brain to solve the riddle?

The only thing that makes me thinks the words might be out of order is the Natasha Otomski part. Otherwise, its likely that the words are in order and one is spelled in an anagram.

when nothing else works you are only left with brute forcing the answer specially if the puzzle was not designed well to only have one possible answer. of course we still don't know it about this puzzle since the answer is not yet revealed but i have seen others in the past that were designed badly and there was no way to answer at least 2 or 3 of the questions and your only option was to brute force it.

as for "Natasha Otomski" so far it seems like OP wanted to make it into a meaningful name and i could not find any logical way of shifting (Cesar, Atbash, shifting, swapping,...) it in reverse to get Satoshi Nakamoto

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January 20, 2019, 01:58:40 PM
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My guess,
So based on this thread, Natasha Otomoski probably Satoshi Nakamoto, number 21 probably max supply of btc, based on coinmarketcap max btc supply is 21,000,000 which is have 21 too.
It is possible to turn the question into "Why Satoshi Nakamoto Create bitcoin with 21 million supply?", Its pretty similar tho, "Why The Comb Of Natasha Otomoski Has 21 Teeth?" , but idk, just guessing.

according to this reply I think answer should be in the Bitcoin Whitepaper or in Bitcoin source code.

1. I was searched the Whitepaper but couldn't find any clue, just a link to a ".txt" file in last page: http://www.weidai.com/bmoney.txt. I downloaded it and calculated its sha256 checksum (as private key) but it wasn't the correct  answer.

2. therefore I was download the first version (0.1) of bitcoin source code that writhed by Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi sets total number of bitcoins to 21 million at line 680 of "main.cpp" file mathematically. above this line there is a comment writted by satoshi: "Subsidy is cut in half every 4 years" link: https://github.com/Maguines/Bitcoin-v0.1/blob/master/bitcoin0.1/src/main.cpp. if the question be about total number of bitcoins this comment is the answer. if we convert "4" to "four" the result has 32 character and 8 words! I was tested some different shapes of this comment but unfortunately couldn't find the correct answer.( a 32 character text could converted to 64 byte hex number that could be a private key) .

sorry for my bad English and if you find the answer according to my reply please donate me. I live in poverty and need money so much.
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January 20, 2019, 04:03:17 PM
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according to this reply I think answer should be in the Bitcoin Whitepaper or in Bitcoin source code.

1. I was searched the Whitepaper but couldn't find any clue, just a link to a ".txt" file in last page: http://www.weidai.com/bmoney.txt. I downloaded it and calculated its sha256 checksum (as private key) but it wasn't the correct  answer.

2. therefore I was download the first version (0.1) of bitcoin source code that writhed by Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi sets total number of bitcoins to 21 million at line 680 of "main.cpp" file mathematically. above this line there is a comment writted by satoshi: "Subsidy is cut in half every 4 years" link: https://github.com/Maguines/Bitcoin-v0.1/blob/master/bitcoin0.1/src/main.cpp. if the question be about total number of bitcoins this comment is the answer. if we convert "4" to "four" the result has 32 character and 8 words! I was tested some different shapes of this comment but unfortunately couldn't find the correct answer.( a 32 character text could converted to 64 byte hex number that could be a private key) .

sorry for my bad English and if you find the answer according to my reply please donate me. I live in poverty and need money so much.
my bitcoin address: 112YeJTFugsuVswVDPzdQi2NTzBunhfVaS    

Very interesting(though it doesn't answer the question "why?").
If I manage to crack it(which is highly unlikely), I will share it with all those who actively participated.

I don't Know. the CamelCase of comment is "SubsidyIsCutInHalfEveryFourYears" or "subsidyIsCutInHalfEveryFourYears", I was converted them to 64 byte hex number and calculated the public address they generate. the public addresses they generate doesn't match to public address of this puzzle.
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January 20, 2019, 04:43:52 PM
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Satoshi sets total number of bitcoins to 21 million at line 680 of "main.cpp" file mathematically. above this line there is a comment writted by satoshi: "Subsidy is cut in half every 4 years" link: https://github.com/Maguines/Bitcoin-v0.1/blob/master/bitcoin0.1/src/main.cpp. if the question be about total number of bitcoins this comment is the answer. if we convert "4" to "four" the result has 32 character and 8 words!

you mistunderstood the whole thing here! most probably because you Ctrl+F searched the number "21" and found that line. which is not even 21 million but 210 thousand.

that line which you posted is not the 21 million limit although it is somewhat related. what is happening there is that every 210000 (210k) blocks we cut the block reward by half. an event known as Halvening these days! and 4 years is the result of time between blocks thanks to difficulty (210000 ~= 4 * 365 * 24 * 6 block/h)

AFAIK nowhere in the source code there is any constant set for maximum number of bitcoins. it just happens to be that much because of the way all these other things are calculated (block reward, block reward halving,...)

There is a FOMO brewing...
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Satoshi sets total number of bitcoins to 21 million at line 680 of "main.cpp" file mathematically. above this line there is a comment writted by satoshi: "Subsidy is cut in half every 4 years" link: https://github.com/Maguines/Bitcoin-v0.1/blob/master/bitcoin0.1/src/main.cpp. if the question be about total number of bitcoins this comment is the answer. if we convert "4" to "four" the result has 32 character and 8 words!

you mistunderstood the whole thing here! most probably because you Ctrl+F searched the number "21" and found that line. which is not even 21 million but 210 thousand.

that line which you posted is not the 21 million limit although it is somewhat related. what is happening there is that every 210000 (210k) blocks we cut the block reward by half. an event known as Halvening these days! and 4 years is the result of time between blocks thanks to difficulty (210000 ~= 4 * 365 * 24 * 6 block/h)

AFAIK nowhere in the source code there is any constant set for maximum number of bitcoins. it just happens to be that much because of the way all these other things are calculated (block reward, block reward halving,...)

No! I don't misunderstood. I did not say that number is 21 million. if you read my replay carefully, I said satoshi calculated total number of bitcoins MATHEMATICALLY. in fact the total number of bitcoins is not in source code as a constant number. number of bitcoins was generated in first block is 50, this act repeats every 10 minute. that line of code halve the  generated bitcoins every 4 years, this means number of generated bitcoins some day will be 0. it will takes 140 years to number of generated bitcoins become 0. if we sum all generated bitcoins in 140 years this number becomes about 21 million. if this HALVING does not take place the number of generated bitcoins will be infinite.   
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January 20, 2019, 07:03:43 PM
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It occurred to me that if Natasha Otomoski is Satoshi Nakamoto, and Satoshi Nakamoto is maybe a group of people or companies, it could be 21 people or companies that group  Grin

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My guess,
So based on this thread, Natasha Otomoski probably Satoshi Nakamoto, number 21 probably max supply of btc, based on coinmarketcap max btc supply is 21,000,000 which is have 21 too.
It is possible to turn the question into "Why Satoshi Nakamoto Create bitcoin with 21 million supply?", Its pretty similar tho, "Why The Comb Of Natasha Otomoski Has 21 Teeth?" , but idk, just guessing.

according to this reply I think answer should be in the Bitcoin Whitepaper or in Bitcoin source code.

1. I was searched the Whitepaper but couldn't find any clue, just a link to a ".txt" file in last page: http://www.weidai.com/bmoney.txt. I downloaded it and calculated its sha256 checksum (as private key) but it wasn't the correct  answer.

2. therefore I was download the first version (0.1) of bitcoin source code that writhed by Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi sets total number of bitcoins to 21 million at line 680 of "main.cpp" file mathematically. above this line there is a comment writted by satoshi: "Subsidy is cut in half every 4 years" link: https://github.com/Maguines/Bitcoin-v0.1/blob/master/bitcoin0.1/src/main.cpp. if the question be about total number of bitcoins this comment is the answer. if we convert "4" to "four" the result has 32 character and 8 words! I was tested some different shapes of this comment but unfortunately couldn't find the correct answer.( a 32 character text could converted to 64 byte hex number that could be a private key) .

sorry for my bad English and if you find the answer according to my reply please donate me. I live in poverty and need money so much.
my bitcoin address: 112YeJTFugsuVswVDPzdQi2NTzBunhfVaS    

interesting but i tried all combine (8!) doesnt work

good job Smiley maybe it isn't the solution at all. or maybe it is just a part of solution and there be another parts. no one attention to that ".txt" at  end of question, but I think that is a part of puzzle.
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January 21, 2019, 04:19:25 AM
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Obviously she isn't him, but

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I  hashed hex number of my answer with this algorithm, but it doesn't work.
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