S_Therapist = mdayonliner

[hilariousetc]

I've "known" about this for pretty much as soon as mdayonliner created the S_Therapist alt account to "start" again (which he publicly announced he'd done so somewhere but he left the account unnamed for obvious reasons) but I kept it to myself and was going to let it slide and hope that he could put his mistake behind him but there's multiple levels of abuse he's now doing. Not only is he 'talking' to himself on each account (both on sig campaigns), posting back to back, but he's also now meriting his own posts:

Post he merited: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg49177831#msg49177831

A thread he just created to talk to himself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096229.0

How do I know they're the same person? Well, I first suspected just by the way they type and how they conduct themselves (which you start to pick up on these things), but what really gave it away was he then referred to me as 'hilari' which I've only ever seen mdayonliner do. I wasn't the only one to notice this and several other people have PMd me to tell me about the similarities they noticed  since (they can chime in if they wish). You might not think this is enough evidence that they're one and the same but if you look at the accounts and how they type and behave it's glaringly obvious.

Three accounts where he called me hilari:

I think soon there will be a solution because everyone is fed up with this. I have seen somewhere theymos said he is willing to spend $100k for solving this problem. Also, here is a statement from hilari-

I know hilari AKA hilariousandco always discourage me (and others I guess too) to create topics for reporting issues instead s/he encourage to hit the report to moderator button. But sometimes it's too confusing to hit the button.

No hilari, you are wrong. It pissed me off because I had clearly stated that please do not remove the post. The rest I have explained above.

Both Bangladeshi:

Bitcoin is fascinating. I am with bitcoin and cryptocurrency space since the end of 2015. Love to share and hear about cryptoworld. Anyone interested in Bangladesh to meet up and share about this awesome world then give me a shout.

বিটকয়েন অসাধারণ। বিটকয়েন এবং ক্রিপ্টোকারেন্সি নিয়ে আমি আছি গত ২০১৫ থেকে। ভালবাসি ক্রিপ্টোদুনিয়া নিয়ে শেয়ার করতে। বাংলাদেশে কেউ জানতে আগ্রহী হলে যোগাযোগ করুন নির্দ্বিধায়।

অনেকেই প্রায়সময়ই প্রশ্ন করে থাকে কিভাবে DT সিস্টেম কাজ করে।এটা নিয়ে এই ফোরামে অনেক thread আছে যেখানে বিভিন্নভাবে এটার ব্যাখ্যা করা হয়েছে।কিন্তু যারা নতুন মেম্বার তাদের যাতে বুঝতে সহজ হয় এইরকম একটা থ্রেড খুজছিলাম এবং পেয়েও গেলাম যেখানে খুব সহজভাবে DT system নিয়ে ব্যাখ্যা করা আছে এবং আমি খুব সহজে এই সিস্টেম টা সম্পর্কে জানতে পারলাম।আপনারাও যাতে সহজে বুঝতে পারেন তার জন্য আমার এ খুদ্র প্রয়াস।

Change the bold word, please. There are some mistakes in your translation.

It's not thread, use post.
Thread= Starting Post/ Opening Post

এবং পেয়েও গেলাম
No, I didn't get any thread and that's why I have written one.

আমি খুব সহজে এই সিস্টেম টা সম্পর্কে জানতে পারলাম।
I didn't write such kind of sentence. Where have you got it? Have you used google translator although it looks natural?

And, thank you for letting people know about how DT system works.

November 23rd Cryptocurrency News:

https://youtu.be/EYIoJht1LMg

Hey, Stop Sharing any video link.

It's not forbidden here. People can share if s/he get something useful to everyone.

Frequently uses the same red paint arrows and boxes to highlight things:

I received this email today from Paypal (Not really, they want you to believe it)

There's multiple other smaller similarities in the way they post like using tildes (~) when they snip bits out of other's quotes but the biggest ones are above and the fact that three other people that I know about had already made the same connection independently leads me to believe that it is almost certainly him. As I said before, I was happy to overlook this and leave him be to build up a screw-up free reputation and leave his past behind but I think this is just being too cocky now and he's knowingly breaking the rules by posting back to back and now the merit abuse is just stepping over the line for me.

Edit: Part Two:

S_Therapist = mdayonliner = Retina: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.msg50271724#msg50271724

[mdayonliner]

I will seat back an relax now  

Your turn S_Therapist. I will have a lot to say after the drama ends here.

I will keep an archive just in case 

[hilariousetc]

I will seat back an relax now  

Your turn S_Therapist. I will have a lot to say after the drama ends here.

I will keep an archive just in case 

Please drop this feigned naivety. Why the hell did you go and merit the account when I'd told you I knew which it was. It's like you were trying to call my bluff. Well, bluff called. All you had to do was not do anything stupid and you would have been fine and multiple people were willing to give you a second chance by not saying anything. I was even considering changing your original trust to neutral despite me not really trusting you as a person, and then this.

[LoyceV]

I will have a lot to say after the drama ends here.

Can you start with a clear statement: is the topic title correct or not?

[mdayonliner]

I will seat back an relax now  

Your turn S_Therapist. I will have a lot to say after the drama ends here.

I will keep an archive just in case  

Please drop this feigned naivety. Why the hell did you go and merit the account when I'd told you I knew which it was. It's like you were trying to call my bluff. Well, bluff called. All you had to do was not do anything stupid and you would have been fine and multiple people were willing to give you a second chance by not saying anything. I was even considering changing your original trust to neutral despite me not really trusting you as a person, and then this.

You should be. I am not what you are thinking.
By the way, I just left 4 merits for S_Therapist here. The post worth merit.


Hello LoyceV

Can you start with a clear statement: is the topic title correct or not?

Not yet mate... I will enjoy it first then I will definitely correct with the right one, mday gives the community his word, I may make mistake offering $100k escrow but that does not mean that I am a bed person, that does not mean that I can scam or walkaway with any money, or the rating I see in my trust page. The harsh negative trust left by hilari suffered me a lot mentally and physically. I wanted a good name but this harsh act destroyed me in this forum. The rest just followed hilari because they have this feeling that hilari is always right.

Anyway, what Do You Think?

[LoyceV]

Anyway, what Do You Think?

I think you're evading the question.

[mdayonliner]

Anyway, what Do You Think?

I think you're evading the question.

I will definitely correct with the right one, mday gives the community his word,

All you need is to wait, I am not going anywhere. I want to have my time.

@hilari: May I know the names of your advisers please?

[The Cryptovator]

My last replied was on mdayonliner reputation thread; and he haven't replied anymore.

However welcome back. Hope you will correction yourself, not just this account. Change should be on person behaviour, it could be this account or others account   Best of luck ...

Once mdayonliner stop posting, withing few days S_Therapist start posting on meta. I noticed him on some point same as mdayonliner. But I really don't want to expose him and wonder to give another chance. I never bother to share it, that's why partially explained him by avobe quote. We are human and we can do mistake. But seems hilariousetc already open thread about it. I don't know if someone noticed or not I have never sent single merit to S_Therapist although he have made few good post. Because I was suspected that's alt of mdayonliner so I just leave him his own way. I don't know if someone will agree with me or not but the reason I will point why I was suspected.

1. Both account want to build reputation very fast.
2. He know very well from where can earn merit much. That's why most of post his on meta from beginning.
3. Others 2 point mentioned by hilariousetc I have noticed as well. But I am not agree with red point arrow marked box. May be some people's use same software.
4. No doubts both account from Bangladesh.
5. Same posting style. Read the post of both account.
6. Both sentence meanings look like same to me below;

I was totally unfamiliar with custom trust list till yesterday. After the new Default Trust changes, when I read that thread, I got what is custom trust list.

Yesterday I had some detail conversations with suchmoon and a little correction from S_Therapist helped me to understand the criterias and calculation of DT1 for the new DefaultTrust system.

7. Both infographics look like made by same person.
A) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096229.0
B) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095944.msg49176783#msg49176783
8. Look  S_Therapist  2nd post nebiwe used ^sup means S_Therapist know all the functions of forum. Wondering how it's possible. May be I learn it after 3 month.
9. Both account replied quote same style. And both cut word same way on the reply. Although it's not much evidence to prove alt. I just see the similarities.
10. Most strong point is hilari what I have noticed from beginning.

I noticed him on this thread also;

Perhaps me too  . I don't care if he create new account or this isn't my business. But most likely I got him. People can't leave few habits ever.

I just mentioned what I noticed and no one is my enemy here. Community could determine they are really alt or not.

Edit : Just noticed S_Therapist sent me a merit during writing this reply

I am expecting clear statements of mdayonliner about this thread.

[xtraelv]

I will seat back an relax now  

Your turn S_Therapist. I will have a lot to say after the drama ends here.

I will keep an archive just in case  

That is a good idea to archive it.

S_Therapist likes archiving as well.

For a user account that was started just before when Mdayonliner announced that he will be starting an "alt" it has a remarkable resemblance in style. But also identical skills, knowledge and as a noob an immediate interest in being involved in enforcing the forum rules.

I may have lackings since I'm new in the forum. I request you/mod/anyone else to correct me if there is any exceptions. It will help me in future to report and help the forum to keep clean.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5061192.msg47486649#msg47486649

I still have the PM from Hilariousandco for the 1st of November when it became apparent that they were the same person.



It was so blatantly obvious that I also had several other people message me about it as early as the start of October. But it wasn't abusing any of the rules at the time so it was unimportant.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Anyway, what Do You Think?

I think you're evading the question.

He's saying exactly what someone who's caught red-handed would say, IMO.  I'd say what hilariousandco said in the OP sounds pretty spot-on, as S-Therapist kind of appeared out of nowhere, doing what mdayonliner was doing as far as trying to bust scams and such.  I figured mdayonliner's days here weren't done and that he'd start fresh with a new account, but it's hard to disguise your writing habits, especially if English isn't your first language.

Other than that, I'll just watch and see what happens here, popcorn in hand.

[xtraelv]

Three accounts where he called me hilari:

I think soon there will be a solution because everyone is fed up with this. I have seen somewhere theymos said he is willing to spend $100k for solving this problem. Also, here is a statement from hilari-

Absolutely nobody else on bitcointalk has called you Hilari. (Google confirms it) Only Mdayonliner had that habit (and S_Therapist)

hilari is safe for 7 days until the ban lifted  Cool

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4424578.0

Since I received red trust from hilariousandco (I don't care about marlboroza's one coz it basically repeated hilari's psychology) forum members started to think that I am a scammer or someone who done bad thing/s (money involved) on the forum or anywhere else.

I am sorry mate, logging into an account actually does not mean that you are the real owner. The hacker can do the same (assuming you are not). If you can not sign a previously used BTC address that was quoted by someone else on the forum then your chances are very thin to get the account back like hilariousetc AKA hilari mentioned earlier.

You can review the cases on my topic, there are so many accounts that has clear merit abusing activities. I know hilari's work, they are doing fantastic contribution for the forum. In fact, hilari is one of the DT who I admire among the rest of the DT's I exchanged words so far.

The Lutpin one did not affect me much mentally but the hilari one destroyed me mentally) to explain why I was misjudged. I think leaving neutral is ok when you see you need to defend a red.

FIY hilari tagged me on July 09.

[S_Therapist]

I have nothing to say here except "I am not mdayonliner or alt of mdayonliner".
Thank you everyone for your judgment.

[Lauda]

If this is true, this is it. I doubt that you could ever salavage the reputation after contiously doing things that you know are wrong/unacceptable here.

[marlboroza]

The rest just followed hilari because they have this feeling that hilari is always right.

No one is following hilarious. This is petition:

Sign in the petition for Traffic Monsoon and Charles Scoville
Passive Income with Masudul
Streamed live on Aug 6, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGeHeIxgmOU


https://youtu.be/jGeHeIxgmOU?t=268


https://youtu.be/jGeHeIxgmOU?t=484


https://youtu.be/jGeHeIxgmOU?t=781

"Please bring that MLM shit whose owner was arrested back so we can do our business and lure more people to lose money."

May I know the names of your advisers please?

You are insulting everyone's intelligence.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5072050.msg48050769#msg48050769

First S_Therapist posted this https://prnt.sc/lkcz3x:

(I summon LoyceV for unedited post, and also edited, if they have data)

And then I posted this:


And then S_Therapist edited post with this:


http://archive.is/F4GHt
https://prnt.sc/lkcz3x
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4495725.0 --> which is mday's thread btw. Any special reason to update post and link exactly mday's thread while I have linked 8 threads, not linking that one?
How has he found this thread? That thread was locked (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4495725.msg40496227#msg40496227) months before S_Therapist registered account and I couldn't find anything using search engines, at least not on first page. Avatar playing hide and seek? Cmon, don't tell me someone googled this. There are literally dozens similar threads.
Or maybe this is coincidence and he was already editing post while I posted my, took screenshot and later noticed they added additional information.

I have 6 theories:

1) They are alt accounts 96%
2) They are mday's fan 1%
3) Friends or family 1%
5) Someone is trying to frame mday. 1%
6) They are some random internet person which knows the same language as mday and has the same posting style since day one as mday 1%

 

[mdayonliner]

I guess I will speak now...

@hilari say you are wrong. If the truth is that I am not S_th... then suggest me the process of proving it. It turns out that S_th... is someone I know from the forum.



I never thought I will say this ...
I am missing digaran LOL

I noticed digaran used to say "hilari" I guess I learnt it from him. Anyway does this make digaran my ALT? I guess it does not coz it's proven that he was not a Bangali.

=> But it's clear that saying "hilari" is not gonna make everyone my alt. (Fact proven wrong)

But I am not agree with red point arrow marked box. May be some people's use same software.

Correct. I use lightshot. I am sure there are many here who do the same.

Code:

[img]https://i.ibb.co/KycFMLr/Capture.png[/img]

This is not lightshot by the way.

Code:

[img]https://preview.ibb.co/cqzyVA/1.png[/img]

[img]https://preview.ibb.co/daCP3V/2.png[/img]

I think these are not lightshoot as well.


=> So, I hope this also resolve the same tool using confusion too. (fact proves wrong)

=> No doubt the we both from Bangladesh. You are correct here. (it is a true)

I use "~" to snip which is correct but I am not sure if he does the same or not.

------------------

the fact that three other people that I know about had already made the same connection independently leads me to believe that it is almost certainly him.

Was I able to prove that those two facts (not really) were wrong?

PS: I was surprise when you PMed me this morning asking about merit sending to alt, I was surprised when you said you know my alt (which I challenged of-course because I knew whatever you had in you mind was wrong). This topic now make sense.

I guess you need to come out from the surrounding (your advisers who were telling you about my alt and all those. Remember those adverser has issue with me and when someone have any issue with another one then they can give biased information. You are better than this in judging forum members) you have.

[Steamtyme]

It's funny I remember reading the "hilari" instance and it did stick out for a minute. I really just chalked it up to a new nickname catching on, didn't think to much on it.

With the "if" in place. The meriting your alt seems the smart play to try and cast doubt. I dont track alts or anything like that, but maybe it's a case of "I can  do it better than Atriz".

They did try and come back under an alt, that had been found out early and allowed to attempt redemption, only to slip up in the end.

Same with that thread, my interest is peaked.

[mdayonliner]

2) They are mday's fan 1%
3) Friends or family 1%

Take out family then marge these two and make it 100%

Actually wait...
Take out number 3. Keep only number 2 and change it to 100%

Update:

@suchmoon: I sent merit because S_th... is not my alt.

I will ask you to address this too. Since you are one of the forum member I trust. And other members who made reply here so far LoyceV and The Pharmacist.

(I am counting only the people who responded here, suchmoon tagged me so I am considering it another response)

@hilari say you are wrong. If the truth is that I am not S_th... then suggest me the process of proving it. It turns out that S_th... is someone I know from the forum.

[marlboroza]

2) They are mday's fan 1%
3) Friends or family 1%

Take out family then marge these two and make it 100%

Actually wait...
Take out number 3. Keep only number 2 and change it to 100%

It will still be 96%.

2% goes here then:

6) They are some random internet person which knows the same language as mday and has the same posting style since day one as mday 1%

Oh, I get it. S_Therapist is 100% your fan. It sounds like you think he worships you. How cute.

[The Cryptovator]

I have a question to @mdayonliner, why you are defending instead of  @S_Therapist. I don't think you are worried about tag to mdayonliner because already tagged it. But why we can't see any defensive reply from @S_Therapist ?

I'm here.

That's why my question. I have seen your reply. That's why wondering why mdayonliner much encourage to defend. You have to defend yourself and prove it you are not mdayonliner.

[S_Therapist]

I have a question to @mdayonliner, why you are defending instead of  @S_Therapist. I don't think you are worried about tag to mdayonliner because already tagged it. But why we can't see any defensive reply from @S_Therapist ?

I'm here.
If anyone still think that I'm not an alt of mdayonliner, please drop me a pm.
Thank you.