S_Therapist = mdayonliner

[mdayonliner]

Anyway... I need one more help from you since you are here.

This is the data of last 104 days http://prntscr.com/m7uxe9
Can you help me providing the another graph from 4th March 2018 to October 04, 2018 for mdayonliner please. It's more 104 days back from when the S_th... started

Here is what you are requesting, your stat for your posts from March 2018 to October 2018.

mdayonliner - postings from March 2018 to October 2018

https://imgur.com/TBbq4Ax

Thank you brother. Thanks again for the kindness.

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[TMAN]

Not true

Fuck knows then! you know I haven't got any malice against you, pretty sure you just made some errors that weren't intended to have a malicious end - but all that is in the past.

GL here man

[mdayonliner]

I am still working on the data processing. I am really not sure how many hours or days I will need but as soon as I am done with the data processing then I will post them here. And some other evidences which needs to be in the investigation section.

But just now have a thought to share the call log in between him and me. I already said that I did not have any idea about S_th... is someone I knew until he called me after hilariousetc created this topic. My first response to the topic was from my anger to him so that he can take the heat of insulting me on the other day etc etc. This is when I learnt that he is someone known to me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.msg49211371#msg49211371 <=== read this post and also some post before this post which will show my mental state before and after learning that he is known to me.  

Anyway here are the call logs... please remember it's GMT +6. To protect his privacy I removed a part of his name and the number. Sure you can see the name I (basically my wife wrote) is : BTC seller..... coz whenever he has btc he sell me. I buy when I have extra money.


Call summary. Notice the time and date.

Call details screenshot 1

Call details screenshot 2

Call details screenshot 3

Update:

Not sure why after posting the first image is losing the width. Anyway here it is  when I preview it...

[shahzadafzal]

My goal is counting the number of posts of every single day from Oct 04, 2018 to Jan 14 2019 for both mdayonliner and S_th... Zero post of a day will also be included.

So far I have done this....
- Converted the spreadsheet file to txt file
- Wrote few simple scripts
- Kept only the dates I do not need everything else
- Wrote few more scripts to read the files and added them to a mySQL database
- Some simple query gave me these data
mdayonliner: http://masudulkabir.com/MDAYnotS_TH/mdaywtzero.txt
S_th: http://masudulkabir.com/MDAYnotS_TH/S_thwtzero.txt
- Then I dumped the data to a google Spreadsheet and drew this two graph. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x6ysRhmNlwJDRFNrZfzq6AwpVsBd7eZPrsQjz2IveMk/edit?usp=sharing
Please see the mday_count and S_the_count tabs

But still it's not the output I am looking for. I need the days with no posts too.

Is this what are you looking for? Since I already have data for both of you I can easily make a comparison graph.

It looks like you were not at all active from 13-10-2018 to 06-12-2018? but S_Therapist was quite active during the same period... (Is it true or do I need to revisit my data?)


mdayonliner vs S_Therapist post counts from 04-10-2018 to 15-01-2019

https://imgur.com/KzaqOEm

[marlboroza]

I've read whole thread again.

The loan money was back using another payment method of the local.

I don't see S_Therapist disagreed with this statement.

It was pointed(with bold letters) several times:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.msg49213483#msg49213483
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.msg49213988#msg49213988
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.msg49229490#msg49229490

And then you said:

The loan money was back using another payment method of the local.
- Sorry this was wrong.... He paid me the loan back in BTC.

Why S_Therapist didn't say this statement is wrong and that he repaid loan using bitcoin and not "another payment method of the local"?

Why is he not responding here? He doesn't know how to write anymore or something?

[suchmoon]

I am still working on the data processing. I am really not sure how many hours or days I will need but as soon as I am done with the data processing then I will post them here. And some other evidences which needs to be in the investigation section.

You're wasting your time.

But just now have a thought to share the call log in between him and me.

Why? There is no value in this whatsoever. Are you just trying to bury this thread in garbage?

[TMAN]

I am still working on the data processing. I am really not sure how many hours or days I will need but as soon as I am done with the data processing then I will post them here. And some other evidences which needs to be in the investigation section.

Fella you are fighting a losing battle here, what exactly are you trying to achieve - think about it and then think if it is actually possible to achieve. IE, everyone believes that you two aren't alts.. that ain't gonna happen, its impossible right now - better off smoking a joint, having a wank and moving on.

[mdayonliner]

Can you address the bold above especially "lots of alts"?
what else in your mind?

phantiennghia, nguyenthanhhieu, quangtrung1991
Well there are no evidences to prove that you own those accounts or they may have used your info to frame you!

I hope this gives you the answer.

You are bringing up some old issues those were proven wrong. May be you missed the ending...?

- His reaction to the accusation makes me think that they are not his alts.
-The Pharmacist removed the tag.
- Thanks The Pharmacist.

That's a very dumb quest.

You can't prove anything. Don't try you're just making a fool of yourself.

All I am trying is the expose the truth and I can try to prove the truth.

GL here man

Thanks man

And then you said:

The loan money was back using another payment method of the local.
- Sorry this was wrong.... He paid me the loan back in BTC.

Yes that's correct that I was wrong it was paid back in BTC.

Why S_Therapist didn't say this statement is wrong and that he repaid loan using bitcoin and not "another payment method of the local"?

Why is he not responding here? He doesn't know how to write anymore or something?

You should be asking him mate not me.

Interesting topic, finally something not about new DT system .
Proofs tell that S_Therapist is an alt of of mdayonliner. Is it not strange that from over 2 millions forum users only you two are calling hilariousandco as hilari? And as @Heisenberg_Hunter said, in this thread you had mixed answers who is S-Th is for you. First you said that he is random unknown guy and later that he even been to your home. But after all I'm still not sure that both accounts are owned by the same person. I think only KYC verification can clear doubts in this investigation. Just kidding lol.

You should be reading the responses all the way from top to before you made the response mate.
Anyway... here I have summary https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098276.0  <== the investigation topic.

[LTU_btc]

You should be reading the responses all the way from top to before you made the response mate.
Anyway... here I have summary https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098276.0  <== the investigation topic.

I read all replies in this topic before replying, but for me it wasn't enough to be sure who is right here - hilariousandco or you. Things like screenshot of phone call history doesn't prove anything.
First I want to say I'm so sorry for a loss of your father - let him rest in peace. And congratulations for a birth of your children!
After shahzadafzal posted stats about your and S_Therapist activity I would say that you're not alts. But it's just my opinion, I may be not right.
But one thing looks quite strange in this story - why S_Therapist stopped to defend himself. Maybe he just give up on this account. Proving that he isn't alt of you will not fix his reputation because he is already tagged for other shady things. Wouldn't be surprised if he will start with new account soon.
And maybe it's stupid prediction, but I think it's possible that his account is controlled by more than one person. I just don't believe that normal people can live almost without sleep.

[S_Therapist]

And maybe it's stupid prediction, but I think it's possible that his account is controlled by more than one person. I just don't believe that normal people can live almost without sleep.

If you look at the posting time by dividing in two range, you will get different scenerio.
4th October to 27th November and 28th November to the rest.
The data provided by shah(can't remember the whole) shows the average posting time of my account. Before 27th November, I used to sleep late at night, sometimes even in 3,4,5 am while later 27th November, I started to live an usual life because I had joined in a job and that's why I had to sleep early like 11/11.30pm at maximum.
Anyway, this will not bring any benefit to this case, IMO.

[mdayonliner]

After shahzadafzal posted stats about your and S_Therapist activity I would say that you're not alts. But it's just my opinion, I may be not right.

Thanks at least you are rethinking.

But one thing looks quite strange in this story - why S_Therapist stopped to defend himself. Maybe he just give up on this account. Proving that he isn't alt of you will not fix his reputation because he is already tagged for other shady things. Wouldn't be surprised if he will start with new account soon.
And maybe it's stupid prediction, but I think it's possible that his account is controlled by more than one person. I just don't believe that normal people can live almost without sleep.

It's hard to believe the amount of time S_Therapist spent here. I feel bad for him. Things could be different if he would not follow me.

I had joined in a job

Congrats brother. I wish things were different. I am sorry.

[marlboroza]

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Can you do this for:

S_Therapist https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2423416
utlptc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1460928
Jrashid  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2313339
pkmoney https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=156044

And this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.msg49261455#msg49261455 ?

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

It's hard to believe the amount of time S_Therapist spent here. I feel bad for him. Things could be different if he would not follow me.

I have to revisit thread to see how things are going because I do actually miss S_Therapist write ups. He isn't that active any more and the worst part is even though the Alt account red tags get removed (that's if he's found not guilty) he already has other tags that can't be removed like account farming
This was one of those accounts that inspired me.

Have any final conclusion been gaven or this is still an accusation?.

Edit:

<***>.

Thanks for the clarification. I'm kinda new to all these trust feedback of a thing and just trying to understand them better. I thought the DT1/2 members or so have a final say but now I understand everyone can use feedback as a point of reference and give their judgement

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Have any final conclusion been gaven? Or this is still an accusation.

By whom?  All the evidence has been presented and feedback has been given, so it's up to everyone to read it and make up their own minds about it.  It looks like the consensus among the members who've posted here is that they are alts, and I suspect that's the case.  Do I know that for a fact?  Not really.  Everything mdayonliner presented as far as phone screenshots and the like could be doctored--or they could be genuine.

I've seen enough shenanigans and lying on this forum to be jaded enough to disbelieve anyone on a matter like this, even if they're trusted.  And when you factor in the fact that S_Therapist is a documented account buyer with other alt accounts, it would not surprise me in the least if mdayonliner was an alt.  I don't like the fact that mdayonliner's stated relationship with S_Therapist changed as time went along.  Seems like he was trying to hide something there. 

In any case, I'm pretty sure the reputations of both accounts are irreparably shot and I agree with others who've said that presenting all of this evidence is pointless.  None of it proves beyond a doubt that the two accounts represent two separate individual human beings.

[shahzadafzal]

Can you do this for:

S_Therapist https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2423416
utlptc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1460928
Jrashid  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2313339
pkmoney https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=156044

And this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.msg49261455#msg49261455 ?

Sure thing

Here are the graphs for each of them

S_Therapist


utlptc


Jrashid  


pkmoney

pkmoney is very odd itself it was dormant since its registration in Jan-13. Then it was active from Nov-13 to May-14 but slept again until May-18 (I guess that's when it was hacked and purchased). Then it remain active for three months only from May-18 to Jul-18 and it is silent since then.

Since we assume it was controlled by different people, so here are the two graphs for it's active periods of Nov-13 to May-14 and May-18 to Jul-18.

pkmoney -May-18 to Jul-18


pkmoney -Nov-13 to May-14



For the comparison graph i tried but it was really odd since all these accounts were active in different dates. See below number posts per month from Dec-2017 to Jan 2019

_Date_		S_Therapist	utlptc	Jrashid	pkmoney
Jan-19		145	3	0	0
Dec-18		34	2	0	0
Nov-18		211	1	10	0
Oct-18		191	39	45	0
Sep-18		0	59	79	0
Aug-18		0	1	57	0
Jul-18		0	37	6	16
Jun-18		0	49	0	49
May-18		0	78	0	63
Apr-18		0	73	0	0
Mar-18		0	99	0	0
Feb-18		0	72	0	0
Jan-18		0	23	0	0
Dec-17		0	9	0	0

You can see it was only month of Oct-18 when they all posted together except for pkmoney.

So I did compare the month of Oct-18, and here is the result. (Graph was very wide so I had to split it)


https://imgur.com/bzROXmH


https://imgur.com/TF0wmSU

Well I'm not sure if you can make something out of it :p

[suchmoon]

For the comparison graph i tried but it was really odd since all these accounts were active in different dates. See below number posts per month from Dec-2017 to Jan 2019

_Date_		S_Therapist	utlptc	Jrashid	pkmoney
Jan-19		145	3	0	0
Dec-18		34	2	0	0
Nov-18		211	1	10	0
Oct-18		191	39	45	0
Sep-18		0	59	79	0
Aug-18		0	1	57	0
Jul-18		0	37	6	16
Jun-18		0	49	0	49
May-18		0	78	0	63
Apr-18		0	73	0	0
Mar-18		0	99	0	0
Feb-18		0	72	0	0
Jan-18		0	23	0	0
Dec-17		0	9	0	0

Since we already know utlptc is the puppetmaster, it's quite clear that the other three accounts were active sequentially one after another. One of them coincidences again LOL

[coolcoinz]

After shahzadafzal posted stats about your and S_Therapist activity I would say that you're not alts. But it's just my opinion, I may be not right.

In fact the graph proves exactly the opposite. Situations where a user posts only once per month with his alt while being active with the other account are very common, especially if one account is employed by a signature campaign while the other isn't. Usually alt owners like to use their alts from time to time to make it look like the accounts aren't abandoned and/or bump some threads, or back up their own posts. So, that flat blue line with small spikes on it couldn't be more normal for an alt account, it doesn't disprove the claim at all.

Where one person sees something random, another will see a pattern. There are days where both of the accounts are very active, and there are days where only one of them is active, while other is taking a break. It doesn't prove anything. For example, you can posts with both accounts one day, then on the next day see that you got some replies in the thread where you've posted with one of the accounts, log in with that one and continue the discussion, hence on the graph one account gets a spike while the other doesn't.

As for the hours when they were active, it's also hard to read anything as s_therapist is active in both day and night (which to me is crazy, does he ever sleep? Ok, he does, at 10-11 am ).

[hilariousetc]

mdayonliner, I'm sorry for whatever personal issues you were going through but as others have said posting screenshots (and everything else) of two random people making calls doesn't prove anything and is even more circumstantial than my 'evidence' or claims. In fact, it's less than that because it only holds any weight if we believe your narrative in the first place.

Have any final conclusion been gaven or this is still an accusation?.

There probably won't ever be one unless some damning evidence comes to light such as linked wallet transactions or some other info so at the moment it's just he said she said and likely will be until the end of time. I'll leave my final 'conclusion' here: I think that regardless of whether these accounts are 'true' alts or not (which we probably won't know unless he admits it) mday has personally made posts for the account in some capacity whether he was/is in control of it or someone else. I really don't buy that he didn't know who the account was until this accusation. It doesn't even make sense and I think he just came out with this to try distance himself from the merit abuse which he obviously would have been found guilty of if he admitted he knew the account. Let's assume the account technically isn't 'his' alt i.e someone else created and controls it, then he probably sent them posts he'd wrote up in an attempt for them to get merit. Before I even knew they were Bangladeshi or had spotted any other similarities I suspected they might be the same just from their posts alone. For that to happen you have to be pretty much trying to purposely emulate someone or it be a massive coincidence. If the account technically isn't his then it's probably his buddies or maybe brothers (and he was well aware of that), but I'm pretty sure some of the content has come from him at some point whether he posted it personally or not. Of course, this is still all speculation and opinion but we're never really going to know one way or another and I suspect mday will stick to his narrative whether it be true or not.

[mdayonliner]

Two more new evidences (better say angles) to observe the case: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098276.msg49369506#msg49369506

Of course, this is still all speculation and opinion but we're never really going to know one way or another and I suspect mday will stick to his narrative whether it be true or not.

this is still all speculation and opinion

this is still all speculation

we're never really going to know one way or another

we're never really going to know

whether it be true or not.

true or not.

But the title is: S_Therapist = mdayonliner LOL

mdayonliner, I'm sorry for whatever personal issues you were going through...

Thank you but you don't have to be, it's ok.

As for the hours when they were active, it's also hard to read anything as s_therapist is active in both day and night (which to me is crazy, does he ever sleep? Ok, he does, at 10-11 am ).

And how about if you create a new guy saying S_Therapist = mdayonliner? You have seen the DC character superman in movies but we have a bitcoinTalk superman here 

[marlboroza]

Ok, I have to ask this in 2 threads.
Is S_Therapist your brother's new account? That would actually explain everything.

This was his last post(September 19.):



Also, for the record, account kawser05 is connected IIRC in another investigation thread.