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Being nice and using our prayers/hopes/dreams isn't working. I'm kinda disappointed in the lack of red trust givin to OP.
You'd rather support someone who starts an auction for his joke of a coin collection because hes been a funny/interesting guy in the past... someone who has been in contact with minerjones and arranged an alternate shipping method ( I assume it was to mail all to MJ and he divvy out the coins as per auction wins ) but hasn't happened. ( also could have told MJ about illness/family problems but failed to mention anything wrong )
Show some support to the few names that we don't see in collectibles as much, maybe this was the beginning of it all, to get them hooked into our physical coin collecting. Starts with some silver, ends with some Casascius/Kialaras/Lealanas.
The main thing that gets me is killyou72 was so fast to toss up a payment address, then empty that wallet. These guys paid him. Should they have used escrow? Yes. But that does not excuse the actions of killyou72. In this case I believe an escrow would already be sending funds back to the bidders/winners.
I agree, dropping red trust now, I was waiting for this to play out but doesn't seem to be a good ending. Killyou, ship the coins man, everyone here has paid. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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March 08, 2019, 04:46:46 PM |
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Being nice and using our prayers/hopes/dreams isn't working. I'm kinda disappointed in the lack of red trust givin to OP.
You'd rather support someone who starts an auction for his joke of a coin collection because hes been a funny/interesting guy in the past... someone who has been in contact with minerjones and arranged an alternate shipping method ( I assume it was to mail all to MJ and he divvy out the coins as per auction wins ) but hasn't happened. ( also could have told MJ about illness/family problems but failed to mention anything wrong )
Show some support to the few names that we don't see in collectibles as much, maybe this was the beginning of it all, to get them hooked into our physical coin collecting. Starts with some silver, ends with some Casascius/Kialaras/Lealanas.
The main thing that gets me is killyou72 was so fast to toss up a payment address, then empty that wallet. These guys paid him. Should they have used escrow? Yes. But that does not excuse the actions of killyou72. In this case I believe an escrow would already be sending funds back to the bidders/winners.
I agree, dropping red trust now, I was waiting for this to play out but doesn't seem to be a good ending. Killyou, ship the coins man, everyone here has paid. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Worse comes to worse red tags can be removed. If he did indeed pull an exit scam this makes it so his account can not be sold as a cherry on top.
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March 08, 2019, 05:35:57 PM |
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Being nice and using our prayers/hopes/dreams isn't working. I'm kinda disappointed in the lack of red trust givin to OP.
You'd rather support someone who starts an auction for his joke of a coin collection because hes been a funny/interesting guy in the past... someone who has been in contact with minerjones and arranged an alternate shipping method ( I assume it was to mail all to MJ and he divvy out the coins as per auction wins ) but hasn't happened. ( also could have told MJ about illness/family problems but failed to mention anything wrong )
Show some support to the few names that we don't see in collectibles as much, maybe this was the beginning of it all, to get them hooked into our physical coin collecting. Starts with some silver, ends with some Casascius/Kialaras/Lealanas.
The main thing that gets me is killyou72 was so fast to toss up a payment address, then empty that wallet. These guys paid him. Should they have used escrow? Yes. But that does not excuse the actions of killyou72. In this case I believe an escrow would already be sending funds back to the bidders/winners.
Point taken, I am leaving red trust now.
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March 08, 2019, 11:16:34 PM |
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I understand there are a lot of pissed off people in this thread and I have no interest in getting into a pissing match with anyone. I’m going to present some facts. I’m also going to offer some options. Finally I’m going to ask for something of you guys.
Facts: This was not an exit scam for less than 0.05BTC I have spoken to KY and there was nothing malicious about this. I believe what we discussed and I promise you would not have wanted to be in his shoes. The silver is en route to minerjones.
Options: I will refund anyone tired of waiting and your purchased silver will go to LC. Wait a little longer and understand life gets REALLY gets in the way sometimes.
What I ask of you: Please don’t destroy KY’s rep over this. Once things are made right, please change all red trust to neutral. It’s not deserved and my word about the situation being awful should be good enough. I don’t believe he should have to broadcast his unfortunate situation to everyone either.
Just my few Satoshis on the matter and again I’m not interested in arguing.
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March 09, 2019, 12:51:40 AM |
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I understand there are a lot of pissed off people in this thread and I have no interest in getting into a pissing match with anyone. I’m going to present some facts. I’m also going to offer some options. Finally I’m going to ask for something of you guys.
Facts: This was not an exit scam for less than 0.05BTC I have spoken to KY and there was nothing malicious about this. I believe what we discussed and I promise you would not have wanted to be in his shoes. The silver is en route to minerjones.
Options: I will refund anyone tired of waiting and your purchased silver will go to LC. Wait a little longer and understand life gets REALLY gets in the way sometimes.
What I ask of you: Please don’t destroy KY’s rep over this. Once things are made right, please change all red trust to neutral. It’s not deserved and my word about the situation being awful should be good enough. I don’t believe he should have to broadcast his unfortunate situation to everyone either.
Just my few Satoshis on the matter and again I’m not interested in arguing.
Thanks
Wallet was emptied without hesitation. I can understand that sometimes we can run in to the problems. BUt if there is enough time to empty wallet there should be enough time to write a simple post. Leaving negative feedback is our right and if i feel this situation was bad enough to leave negative it will stay that way. Please cancel my bid, and refund all bitcoins to my wallet. If we didn't do what we did in the thread till now nobody would even care to let us know whats the deal. I am tired of constant excused of people. If this guy choose to auction coins and was keeping an eye on this thread for so long he should finish it the same way we all finished it by sending btc when he posted wallet. Simple as that. Thanks for info but i will not wait or will not take a chance that coins winnings will never show up.
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March 09, 2019, 01:07:31 AM |
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Wallet was emptied without hesitation. I can understand that sometimes we can run in to the problems. BUt if there is enough time to empty wallet there should be enough time to write a simple post.
Leaving negative feedback is our right and if i feel this situation was bad enough to leave negative it will stay that way. Please cancel my bid, and refund all bitcoins to my wallet.
If we didn't do what we did in the thread till now nobody would even care to let us know whats the deal. I am tired of constant excused of people. If this guy choose to auction coins and was keeping an eye on this thread for so long he should finish it the same way we all finished it by sending btc when he posted wallet. Simple as that.
Thanks for info but i will not wait or will not take a chance that coins winnings will never show up.
I understand. You have every right to say no, just as I have the right to ask. I believe your total was for these 3 items: Lot 16 "last batch ever made" : 0.00165 BTC s1lverbox Lot 17: 0.00165 BTC s1lverbox Lot 18: 0.00165 BTC s1lverbox for a total of 0.00495BTCplease post a refund address for me, thank you.
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March 09, 2019, 01:58:52 AM |
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I will buy the silver that s1lverbox wants refunded if possible. Minerjones please hold for me. Thank you
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March 09, 2019, 02:29:22 AM |
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~snip~ Facts:
This was not an exit scam for less than 0.05BTC I have spoken to KY and there was nothing malicious about this. I believe what we discussed and I promise you would not have wanted to be in his shoes. The silver is en route to minerjones. ~snip~ What I ask of you: Please don’t destroy KY’s rep over this. Once things are made right, please change all red trust to neutral. It’s not deserved and my word about the situation being awful should be good enough. I don’t believe he should have to broadcast his unfortunate situation to everyone either.
In regards to the Facts - There is one that is pertinent to this situation at the moment. Is there tracking information showing the auction items are en route. The other points are opinion and speculation, and delve more into the personal matters that we are not discussing. For the rest, I'm not pissed by any means, a little disappointed in the communication and uncertainty, and I feel that is justified. I held off on the Red trust as I do understand things get in the way, could be small could be big, hard to tell when you are just left out of the loop. So I reached out a few times and it became clear that Killyou did not feel an update was necessary. Perhaps they made poor choices in posting to a Ban Appeal thread as opposed to communication with people they have an agreement with. That bothered me and is why I felt it necessary to leave Negative Feedback. That doesn't mean it's staying forever, I clearly stated it will be changed once the terms of the auction are met. I also feel this would have been better again as a message from OP. I agree they didn't need to broadcast the personal situation but I would have appreciated something as simple as: "Hey everyone sorry but I have some personal stuff to deal with at the moment, It's going to be 6-8 weeks before I can address this. If you want a refund let me know" Options: I will refund anyone tired of waiting and your purchased silver will go to LC. Wait a little longer and understand life gets REALLY gets in the way sometimes. I'll happily wait for my auction items, it's not time sensitive. Hopefully whatever is going on with Killyou they come through it okay.
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March 09, 2019, 02:34:34 AM |
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I will buy the silver that s1lverbox wants refunded if possible. Minerjones please hold for me. Thank you
minerjones will be unavailable for a couple days, but that will work. When s1lverbox posts a refund address you can just pay it. The silver will be yours. MJ will be back Sunday night or Monday morning to verify if need be.
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March 09, 2019, 02:39:59 AM |
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~snip~ Facts:
This was not an exit scam for less than 0.05BTC I have spoken to KY and there was nothing malicious about this. I believe what we discussed and I promise you would not have wanted to be in his shoes. The silver is en route to minerjones. ~snip~ What I ask of you: Please don’t destroy KY’s rep over this. Once things are made right, please change all red trust to neutral. It’s not deserved and my word about the situation being awful should be good enough. I don’t believe he should have to broadcast his unfortunate situation to everyone either.
In regards to the Facts - There is one that is pertinent to this situation at the moment. Is there tracking information showing the auction items are en route. The other points are opinion and speculation, and delve more into the personal matters that we are not discussing. For the rest, I'm not pissed by any means, a little disappointed in the communication and uncertainty, and I feel that is justified. I held off on the Red trust as I do understand things get in the way, could be small could be big, hard to tell when you are just left out of the loop. So I reached out a few times and it became clear that Killyou did not feel an update was necessary. Perhaps they made poor choices in posting to a Ban Appeal thread as opposed to communication with people they have an agreement with. That bothered me and is why I felt it necessary to leave Negative Feedback. That doesn't mean it's staying forever, I clearly stated it will be changed once the terms of the auction are met. I also feel this would have been better again as a message from OP. I agree they didn't need to broadcast the personal situation but I would have appreciated something as simple as: "Hey everyone sorry but I have some personal stuff to deal with at the moment, It's going to be 6-8 weeks before I can address this. If you want a refund let me know" Options: I will refund anyone tired of waiting and your purchased silver will go to LC. Wait a little longer and understand life gets REALLY gets in the way sometimes. I'll happily wait for my auction items, it's not time sensitive. Hopefully whatever is going on with Killyou they come through it okay. Yes. I have tracking. The item went out today. MJ will verify tracking when he’s back. I’m not posting it because it’s nobody’s business what town it’s leaving from and what town it’s going to. I know both of them and can verify the to and from.
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March 09, 2019, 02:50:30 AM |
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Yes. I have tracking. The item went out today. MJ will verify tracking when he’s back. I’m not posting it because it’s nobody’s business what town it’s leaving from and what town it’s going to. I know both of them and can verify the to and from.
Glad to see someone has tracking info. I would say anyone who partook in the auction and is choosing to wait on the items falls into the "having of business" to prove the shipment. The town to and from really means nothing, could be PO boxes or drop ship locations, who's to say. However for now it's good enough that you are verifying the shipment to have been sent. I'll wait to hear from MJ, in case they need my shipping info... which was sent to killyou72 when they were shipping the item. Edit: Forgot to say thanks for coming here and providing us with updates, and offers to people who no longer want to wait. I understand you are trying to help everyone involved.
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March 09, 2019, 06:31:15 AM Last edit: March 09, 2019, 06:50:36 AM by Lesbian Cow |
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~snip~ Facts:
This was not an exit scam for less than 0.05BTC I have spoken to KY and there was nothing malicious about this. I believe what we discussed and I promise you would not have wanted to be in his shoes. The silver is en route to minerjones. ~snip~ What I ask of you: Please don’t destroy KY’s rep over this. Once things are made right, please change all red trust to neutral. It’s not deserved and my word about the situation being awful should be good enough. I don’t believe he should have to broadcast his unfortunate situation to everyone either.
In regards to the Facts - There is one that is pertinent to this situation at the moment. Is there tracking information showing the auction items are en route. The other points are opinion and speculation, and delve more into the personal matters that we are not discussing. For the rest, I'm not pissed by any means, a little disappointed in the communication and uncertainty, and I feel that is justified. I held off on the Red trust as I do understand things get in the way, could be small could be big, hard to tell when you are just left out of the loop. So I reached out a few times and it became clear that Killyou did not feel an update was necessary. Perhaps they made poor choices in posting to a Ban Appeal thread as opposed to communication with people they have an agreement with. That bothered me and is why I felt it necessary to leave Negative Feedback. That doesn't mean it's staying forever, I clearly stated it will be changed once the terms of the auction are met. I also feel this would have been better again as a message from OP. I agree they didn't need to broadcast the personal situation but I would have appreciated something as simple as: "Hey everyone sorry but I have some personal stuff to deal with at the moment, It's going to be 6-8 weeks before I can address this. If you want a refund let me know" Options: I will refund anyone tired of waiting and your purchased silver will go to LC. Wait a little longer and understand life gets REALLY gets in the way sometimes. I'll happily wait for my auction items, it's not time sensitive. Hopefully whatever is going on with Killyou they come through it okay. Yes. I have tracking. The item went out today. MJ will verify tracking when he’s back. I’m not posting it because it’s nobody’s business what town it’s leaving from and what town it’s going to. I know both of them and can verify the to and from. Just dropping in to confirm I received the tracking details as well. Package is en route to minerjones from appearances.
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Wallet was emptied without hesitation. I can understand that sometimes we can run in to the problems. BUt if there is enough time to empty wallet there should be enough time to write a simple post.
Leaving negative feedback is our right and if i feel this situation was bad enough to leave negative it will stay that way. Please cancel my bid, and refund all bitcoins to my wallet.
If we didn't do what we did in the thread till now nobody would even care to let us know whats the deal. I am tired of constant excused of people. If this guy choose to auction coins and was keeping an eye on this thread for so long he should finish it the same way we all finished it by sending btc when he posted wallet. Simple as that.
Thanks for info but i will not wait or will not take a chance that coins winnings will never show up.
I understand. You have every right to say no, just as I have the right to ask. I believe your total was for these 3 items: Lot 16 "last batch ever made" : 0.00165 BTC s1lverbox Lot 17: 0.00165 BTC s1lverbox Lot 18: 0.00165 BTC s1lverbox for a total of 0.00495BTCplease post a refund address for me, thank you. I sent 3 x win items + international postage 15$ in btc at the time. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLOND3sz.png%3F1&t=665&c=LJSe0EVX6AA4wg) This was tx id: Tx.id : fa23df780de2db9d511d51edd1b88b66a8d9e9ded21cad29ba09d84590f781e9 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgZ9SnGp.png&t=665&c=5rzZIuJ5SQsMWQ) So in total: 0.0085 BTC![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjbIQQb6.png%3F1&t=665&c=XOQj9TRFtzBqMw) Wallet for refund is : 31tFK4yRW7ai4oTayu2F2YFsZLAX4eRu3G Thanks for help.
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March 09, 2019, 04:27:10 PM |
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Got it, 0.0085 BTC to 31tFK4yRW7ai4oTayu2F2YFsZLAX4eRu3G I will buy the silver that s1lverbox wants refunded if possible. Minerjones please hold for me. Thank you
If you'd like to pay the full 0.0085 BTC to the address given, the silver is yours. If not, I will pay it and the silver is mine to do what I choose. I will give you until 10pm New York time to decide at which time I will pay the address so s1lverbox can move on. Best everyone.
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March 09, 2019, 05:40:56 PM |
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Got it, 0.0085 BTC to 31tFK4yRW7ai4oTayu2F2YFsZLAX4eRu3G I will buy the silver that s1lverbox wants refunded if possible. Minerjones please hold for me. Thank you
If you'd like to pay the full 0.0085 BTC to the address given, the silver is yours. If not, I will pay it and the silver is mine to do what I choose. I will give you until 10pm New York time to decide at which time I will pay the address so s1lverbox can move on. Best everyone. Hi anonymousminer, Thank you for sorting this out. 0.0085 BTC sent to address above. 2a0dd404edbe314e141be948fb8eab5a7e505954089b7dfa853a06fe6eede28c
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March 09, 2019, 05:48:31 PM |
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Got it, 0.0085 BTC to 31tFK4yRW7ai4oTayu2F2YFsZLAX4eRu3G I will buy the silver that s1lverbox wants refunded if possible. Minerjones please hold for me. Thank you
If you'd like to pay the full 0.0085 BTC to the address given, the silver is yours. If not, I will pay it and the silver is mine to do what I choose. I will give you until 10pm New York time to decide at which time I will pay the address so s1lverbox can move on. Best everyone. Hi anonymousminer, Thank you for sorting this out. 0.0085 BTC sent to address above. 2a0dd404edbe314e141be948fb8eab5a7e505954089b7dfa853a06fe6eede28c Just spoke to MJ. They are yours. MJ will reach out for addresses by Monday or Tuesday for all silver customers of this thread.
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March 09, 2019, 06:53:42 PM |
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Got it, 0.0085 BTC to 31tFK4yRW7ai4oTayu2F2YFsZLAX4eRu3G I will buy the silver that s1lverbox wants refunded if possible. Minerjones please hold for me. Thank you
If you'd like to pay the full 0.0085 BTC to the address given, the silver is yours. If not, I will pay it and the silver is mine to do what I choose. I will give you until 10pm New York time to decide at which time I will pay the address so s1lverbox can move on. Best everyone. Hi anonymousminer, Thank you for sorting this out. 0.0085 BTC sent to address above. 2a0dd404edbe314e141be948fb8eab5a7e505954089b7dfa853a06fe6eede28c Thanks got my coins back. And feedback deleted. For me case closed. Regards.
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Is this what we all gave you a second chance for Killyou72? Settle your debts. This little running and hiding like a child game is not acceptable.
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Is this what we all gave you a second chance for Killyou72? Settle your debts. This little running and hiding like a child game is not acceptable.
Here's a thought TECSHARE .... having seen just how supportive some of the (well respected and long time) members of this board have been to KY in this particular circumstance, and how they have ensured that all people that won KY's auction are made whole one way or another .... there's something more going on. Viz
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Steamtyme
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March 12, 2019, 12:28:50 AM Last edit: March 12, 2019, 04:00:06 AM by Steamtyme |
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Excellent glad to hear it. In hand is good enough for me, I'll be adjusting my feedback to neutral. Hopefully things sort out for killyou IRL and we can deal in the future under better circumstances.
I'm on mobile and will take care of the feedback this evening.
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