Mining is getting me nowhere, what about poker?

[pedrog]

I've made a few coins playing poker, a good percentage of players are new to poker, if you already have some experience you will do good.

[franky1]

those that don't think the house always wins, obviously shouldnt be gambling..

and im not only talking about the rake, but ill leave you to figure it out

[Joshuar]

Playing Poker can actually may you a alot of money, many people have earned their fortunes(thousands to millions) through poker, but you must be an expert. I'm not talking about knowing how to play poke a little bit, or you're just good and always beat your friends no... I'm talking about you've actually played in actual Poke Tournaments and won, and came close, only then can you consider playing Poker for a living.

[slaveforanunnak1]

I've made a few coins playing poker, a good percentage of players are new to poker, if you already have some experience you will do good.

Nice!
Which site do you use?

[slaveforanunnak1]

Playing Poker can actually may you a alot of money, many people have earned their fortunes(thousands to millions) through poker, but you must be an expert. I'm not talking about knowing how to play poke a little bit, or you're just good and always beat your friends no... I'm talking about you've actually played in actual Poke Tournaments and won, and came close, only then can you consider playing Poker for a living.

I'm pretty sure i'm an expert! I've been playing for over 10 years. I've read around 5 books on TH. From Phil's shitty book to Sklansky's awesome books. I've won countless tournaments (best one was i got 1st in a turny of  800 people) Currently I play about 5 - 10 hours a week but i used to (before current GF) play 5-10 hours a day online. People will always suck out on you, but overall I do pretty well.

[pedrog]

I've made a few coins playing poker, a good percentage of players are new to poker, if you already have some experience you will do good.

Nice!
Which site do you use?

I've tried a few, mainly I played at Seal with Clubs and The Edge Poker.

There are a lot of aggressive losers on the tables, a lot!

[slaveforanunnak1]

I've made a few coins playing poker, a good percentage of players are new to poker, if you already have some experience you will do good.

Nice!
Which site do you use?

I've tried a few, mainly I played at Seal with Clubs and The Edge Poker.

There are a lot of aggressive losers on the tables, a lot!

Interesting... thanks for the heads up..
Is it pretty simple to move Bitcoins in and out!?!??!

[5ick3uffalo]

Online poker is not REAL POKER! You can't go into it thinking  just playing poker will give you a chance to win lol I'm a avid poker player played on Fulltilt made Final table quite a few times and Pokerstars and almost made it on T.V was in the finals before they pulled the plug when BLACK FRIDAY CAME.I didn't make it on poker skill alone.......
First thing you have to realize THERE ISN"T A POKER PROGRAM IN THE WORLD THAT CAN SIMULATE REAL PLAY! There is over a billion random possibilities that there just isn't a COMPUTER STRONG ENOUGH TO PREDICT TRUE OUTCOME even  the Governments computers couldn't compute that outcome! You will never get TRUE ODDS like a LIVE GAME ! What you do get is what makes you perceive as true oddsI'll tell you that much! You have to have poker knowledge to win of course but it's really a entirely different game and takes a lot more then Poker Know How to win.There's a flaw in all poker programs and if your smart enough to figure it out? YOU CAN WIN!and it's a SECRET many onliners KNOW including me but I ain't telling I had to pay big money for it But if you don't already know what it is? Skill alone isn't going to do it the odds are seriously against you because you will be playing thinking you have REAL GAME ODDS.

What drugs did you take?


Seriously, what are you talking about? "Poker program" ?? "it's a SECRET" ??

On online poker sites people play against other people. Not against a program.

I know the SECRET: Diszipline

[slaveforanunnak1]

patience

[thejewelrytech]

Online poker is not REAL POKER! You can't go into it thinking  just playing poker will give you a chance to win lol I'm a avid poker player played on Fulltilt made Final table quite a few times and Pokerstars and almost made it on T.V was in the finals before they pulled the plug when BLACK FRIDAY CAME.I didn't make it on poker skill alone.......
First thing you have to realize THERE ISN"T A POKER PROGRAM IN THE WORLD THAT CAN SIMULATE REAL PLAY! There is over a billion random possibilities that there just isn't a COMPUTER STRONG ENOUGH TO PREDICT TRUE OUTCOME even  the Governments computers couldn't compute that outcome! You will never get TRUE ODDS like a LIVE GAME ! What you do get is what makes you perceive as true oddsI'll tell you that much! You have to have poker knowledge to win of course but it's really a entirely different game and takes a lot more then Poker Know How to win.There's a flaw in all poker programs and if your smart enough to figure it out? YOU CAN WIN!and it's a SECRET many onliners KNOW including me but I ain't telling I had to pay big money for it But if you don't already know what it is? Skill alone isn't going to do it the odds are seriously against you because you will be playing thinking you have REAL GAME ODDS.

What drugs did you take?


Seriously, what are you talking about? "Poker program" ?? "it's a SECRET" ??

On online poker sites people play against other people. Not against a program.

your obviously not Smart as you THINK you are do some googling and LEARN SOMETHING about TRUE RANDOM ODDS and Probabilities then talk to me its a FACT NO COMPUTER PROGRAM nor COMPUTER can deliver true LIVE GAME odds it's IMPOSSIBLE!! any company that says they can is LIEING TO YOU! there isn't a CPU nor computer program that can handle those computations  what you get is like a tenth of the randomness a random number generator can't possibly simulate a live deck. Winners are already picked before the hands are dealt and there are many like me that exploit and know this flaw.You might think its a simple 52 cards how complicated can it be? but there is a billion +probable Hands  that can be dealt at anytime its like a CPU trying to solve a bitcoin block now it ain't gonna happen computers are just too dumb to do it.The secret is your cards have nothing to do with your chances of Winning really in online poker that's why you see ACES cracked so much on online play and  those Jack 2 hands suddenly become winner winner chicken dinners those things wont happen nearly as often in REALTIME thats as much as I'm going to say as I've already said too much because  like I said its a well kept secret and am not going to ruin it for myself to be used against me lol or others either it doesn't guarantee you will win every time but it does guarantee over 80%  most of the time you will win when used right You'll know when someone uses it against you when they go all in on the worst hand possible and beat your MADE HAND. . And all the poker sites use these same algorithms more or less the same shitty programs since ultimate bet have been floating around all the poker sites there's been no break through innovations in online poker and won't be for probably another ten or twenty years or so maybe when the computational power will be  here's a tidbit of a clue what I'm talking about but this isn't the SECRET
 http://www.cigital.com/papers/download/developer_gambling.php

[Light]

those that don't think the house always wins, obviously shouldnt be gambling..

and im not only talking about the rake, but ill leave you to figure it out

Aside from the rake, the only thing I can think of is either collusion via the owners changing the RNG for the hands such that they increase the likelihood of them winning. There is always a chance of this with online poker, but it depends whether your wlling to take that risk to have the advantage of staying at home and playing or having to drive to your local casino.

[notserp]

u can make alot of coins from poker if your good, seals with clubs and betcoinpoker.com are your best bets.

[Nobitcoin]

Hmm superuser and ultimate bet? 

[alexout]

Just found a new dogecoin poker site called Pokershibes.com

Come check it out. Im playing there myself and the site needs more traffic.

[mz1000]

Online poker is not REAL POKER! You can't go into it thinking  just playing poker will give you a chance to win lol I'm a avid poker player played on Fulltilt made Final table quite a few times and Pokerstars and almost made it on T.V was in the finals before they pulled the plug when BLACK FRIDAY CAME.I didn't make it on poker skill alone.......
First thing you have to realize THERE ISN"T A POKER PROGRAM IN THE WORLD THAT CAN SIMULATE REAL PLAY! There is over a billion random possibilities that there just isn't a COMPUTER STRONG ENOUGH TO PREDICT TRUE OUTCOME even  the Governments computers couldn't compute that outcome! You will never get TRUE ODDS like a LIVE GAME ! What you do get is what makes you perceive as true oddsI'll tell you that much! You have to have poker knowledge to win of course but it's really a entirely different game and takes a lot more then Poker Know How to win.There's a flaw in all poker programs and if your smart enough to figure it out? YOU CAN WIN!and it's a SECRET many onliners KNOW including me but I ain't telling I had to pay big money for it But if you don't already know what it is? Skill alone isn't going to do it the odds are seriously against you because you will be playing thinking you have REAL GAME ODDS.

I think you lost to mutch on online poker and blame it on some rigg.
The odds are true but say that it is like you say it is: "You will never get TRUE ODDS like a LIVE GAME". Then its this for all players = fair.
Or are you one of them that always are the one that have that extra unluck? Like if the casino was against especially you. Like they programmed it to be against THAT player, no one else.

I think you misunderstand what he said. He never said it was rigged against anyone.

[thejewelrytech]

Online poker is not REAL POKER! You can't go into it thinking  just playing poker will give you a chance to win lol I'm a avid poker player played on Fulltilt made Final table quite a few times and Pokerstars and almost made it on T.V was in the finals before they pulled the plug when BLACK FRIDAY CAME.I didn't make it on poker skill alone.......
First thing you have to realize THERE ISN"T A POKER PROGRAM IN THE WORLD THAT CAN SIMULATE REAL PLAY! There is over a billion random possibilities that there just isn't a COMPUTER STRONG ENOUGH TO PREDICT TRUE OUTCOME even  the Governments computers couldn't compute that outcome! You will never get TRUE ODDS like a LIVE GAME ! What you do get is what makes you perceive as true oddsI'll tell you that much! You have to have poker knowledge to win of course but it's really a entirely different game and takes a lot more then Poker Know How to win.There's a flaw in all poker programs and if your smart enough to figure it out? YOU CAN WIN!and it's a SECRET many onliners KNOW including me but I ain't telling I had to pay big money for it But if you don't already know what it is? Skill alone isn't going to do it the odds are seriously against you because you will be playing thinking you have REAL GAME ODDS.

I think you lost to mutch on online poker and blame it on some rigg.
The odds are true but say that it is like you say it is: "You will never get TRUE ODDS like a LIVE GAME". Then its this for all players = fair.
Or are you one of them that always are the one that have that extra unluck? Like if the casino was against especially you. Like they programmed it to be against THAT player, no one else.
 Actually its quite the opposite I've won thousands from online poker with pokerstars and fulltilt and lost it to the GOV;)I'm probably old enough to be your Father .I'm not someone TALKING OUT MY ASS .I was in the final third round on the last Pokerstars TV tournament beating over ten thousand people and I had 2 tickets to the tournament and have made final table in tournaments playing against tens of thousands in pokerstars and fulltilt and used to take peoples money literally in ring games they never had a chance. I made the final TV tourney did it twice beating out tens of thousands when I used to play online all the time I'd win usually around 80%+ of my hands .I played in casinos as well and have won thousands there also when you know how to COUNT CARDS you know TRUE ODDS.I'm dropping KNOWLEDGE ON YOU SON
 You should learn to KNOW what you are talking about before commenting  what is your theory based on?I THINK or I KNOW?Oh wait its obviously you have your DOCTORATE in" I THINK" If you READ A BOOk or TWO or even understood simple Math or read up on what I posted you would know its impossible for a CPU to Handle A BILLION calculatons!LOOK IT UP! it would take a cpu years and MONTHS ON MONTHS to shuffle the deck properly it can't do it! it's not  fast enough! Why do you think no one uses a CPU TO MINE BITCOIN? it can't handle the CALCULATIONS its too SLOW It's too STUPID!It cant even solve 500,000,000 Block  in a 5 second how do you think it will solve A BILLION calculations of a card deck? don't believe me just try and use a cpu to mine  and see how long it takes you too get a best share in the MILLIONS! let me know in a couple of years when you get that share that high lol and a poker deck has over a billion possibilities the TOP OF THE LINE INTEl or AMD will take years and years some months! even a 16 core processor can't do it a Quantum computer can't even do it! Its a Mathematical FACT LOOK IT UP! but if you knew anything about what your TALKING ABOUT or even about computers in general?and the processor you would know that ::)I'm A+ certified and a Cisco network graduate I know a thing or two about computers and what I'm talking about based on EDUCATION.
By not being able to give true random odds the system is very PREDICTABLE I can win over 80% of my hands all the time and everyone else could too if they knew the system.All the poker sites use the same software my bitcoin is worth way too much to bet with poker and the poker sites around are kind of hackey and after Fulltilt and losing thousands too insolvency and gov I'm all set with  ever giving a poker site my money again FUCK THAT lol ill take a live game @ FOXWOODS FTW! except if Pokerstars cameback to the states I would gladly go back . So i wont do it on these sites don't trust any of these sites like Exchanges Ill hold my own Bitcoin THANK YOU but I do play the freerolls  and i won my first one played last month and didn't even practice and won 120 satoshi chips paid 8th place in satoshi grindabit poker FREEROLL and won a paid freeroll on seals with clubs also with over a couple hundred people playing using same methods I've always use to predict the outcomes  while on fulltilt,ultimatebet,and pokerstars,and I will use the winning to play a big tournament soon its all House money with nothing to Lose
 The system isn't rigged against anyone everyone does get the same odds kind of so to speak but it has nothing to do with the cards you are holding in how you Win .The way i play my hands aren't based on card strength 90% of the time and I WIn majority regardless of what Im holding by the way so I know what I'm talking about I'm talking from experience you don't have any true poker odds  when you only have a million possibilities to pick from instead of a billion that changes the game completely its like playing blackjack and taking out the tens its no longer Blackjack its now Spanish blackjack with different ODDS and requires a change in playing style the game completely changes its not the same.But this would take MATH SKILL to Truly  understand that even complete randomness can be predicted this is how the likes of how students from MIT beat the HOUSE! Complete randomness can be predicted but something like this is obviously WAY WAY OVER YOUR HEAD  when you can't even spell MUCH!ROFL Go back to school son.................

[FanEagle]

why not doin both play poker band mine

[5ick3uffalo]

Mining getting nowhere? loool

Then deposit my signature an be happy

[Rannasha]

You should learn to KNOW what you are talking about before commenting  what is your theory based on?I THINK or I KNOW?Oh wait its obviously you have your DOCTORATE in" I THINK" If you READ A BOOk or TWO or even understood simple Math or read up on what I posted you would know its impossible for a CPU to Handle A BILLION calculatons!LOOK IT UP! it would take a cpu years and MONTHS ON MONTHS to shuffle the deck properly it can't do it! it's not  fast enough! Why do you think no one uses a CPU TO MINE BITCOIN? it can't handle the CALCULATIONS its too SLOW It's too STUPID!It cant even solve 500,000,000 Block  in a 5 second how do you think it will solve A BILLION calculations of a card deck? don't believe me just try and use a cpu to mine  and see how long it takes you too get a best share in the MILLIONS! let me know in a couple of years when you get that share that high lol and a poker deck has over a billion possibilities the TOP OF THE LINE INTEl or AMD will take years and years some months! even a 16 core processor can't do it a Quantum computer can't even do it! Its a Mathematical FACT LOOK IT UP! but if you knew anything about what your TALKING ABOUT or even about computers in general?and the processor you would know that ::)I'm A+ certified and a Cisco network graduate I know a thing or two about computers and what I'm talking about based on EDUCATION.

Do you have no idea how much bullshit you're talking here? For the record, I'm a mathematician, so you don't have to try and impress me with claiming things about "simple Math" or "Mathematical FACT LOOK IT UP!" (what's up with the weird capitalization anyway?).

A standard 52-card shuffled eck has about 226 bits of information (2^226 possible shuffles). If I roll dice (d6, to be precise), I can generate such a shuffle with 88 dice-rolls, which definitely isn't impossible. You also state that it is impossible for a CPU to "Handle A BILLION calculations!". My quad-core CPU runs at about 4 GHz, which is 4 billion clock ticks per second. According to Intels manual, integer addition (for example: 183 + 912) has a latency of 1 cycle and integer multiplication (183 * 912) has a latency of 3 cycles. So with the 16 billion clock cycles that my 4 CPU-cores run through per second, they could, in theory, perform 16 billion additions or just over 5 billion multiplications. Per second. Now most useful calculations will be a little bit more complicated, but the order of magnitude is there.

Fortunately, generating a shuffled deck doesn't take billions of calculations. It just takes a random 226 bit number. While a good random number generator is not straight forward to make on a computer, it's perfectly possible. The computer could sample static from a disconnected line-in / mic jack on the soundcard. This static noise should provide more than enough entropy for proper random number generation.

While the number of possible deck shuffles is indeed very large (a billion doesn't even do justice to the magnitude of the number), it is rather straightforward to generate it. And it is certainly not something that would take a high end CPU "years and year some months" (huh?). As an interesting comparison, a Bitcoin private key is a 256 bit number, where there are almost 2^256 possible private keys (so about a billion times more than the number of possible deck shuffles) and our computers have no problems randomly generating those by the boatload.

By not being able to give true random odds the system is very PREDICTABLE I can win over 80% of my hands all the time and everyone else could too if they knew the system.All the poker sites use the same software my bitcoin is worth way too much to bet with poker and the poker sites around are kind of hackey and after Fulltilt and losing thousands too insolvency and gov I'm all set with  ever giving a poker site my money again FUCK THAT lol ill take a live game @ FOXWOODS FTW! except if Pokerstars cameback to the states I would gladly go back . So i wont do it on these sites don't trust any of these sites like Exchanges Ill hold my own Bitcoin THANK YOU but I do play the freerolls   and i won my first one played last month and didn't even practice and won 120 satoshi chips paid 8th place in satoshi grindabit poker FREEROLL and won a paid freeroll on seals with clubs also with over a couple hundred people playing using same methods I've always use to predict the outcomes  while on fulltilt,ultimatebet,and pokerstars,and I will use the winning to play a big tournament soon its all House money with nothing to Lose
 The system isn't rigged against anyone everyone does get the same odds kind of so to speak but it has nothing to do with the cards you are holding in how you Win .The way i play my hands aren't based on card strength 90% of the time and I WIn majority regardless of what Im holding by the way so I know what I'm talking about I'm talking from experience you don't have any true poker odds  when you only have a million possibilities to pick from instead of a billion that changes the game completely its like playing blackjack and taking out the tens its no longer Blackjack its now Spanish blackjack with different ODDS and requires a change in playing style the game completely changes its not the same.But this would take MATH SKILL to Truly  understand that even complete randomness can be predicted this is how the likes of how students from MIT beat the HOUSE! Complete randomness can be predicted but something like this is obviously WAY WAY OVER YOUR HEAD  when you can't even spell MUCH!ROFL Go back to school son.................

Complete randomness can't, by its very definition, be predicted.

What can be predicted, sometimes, are sloppy implementations by casino operators. Regardless of the game or the bet or the system, if the operator isn't careful in properly implementing the software, it can be exploited. But this doesn't mean that it is fundamentally impossible to create a fair game that can't be cheated, unlike what you like to claim.

[thejewelrytech]

You should learn to KNOW what you are talking about before commenting  what is your theory based on?I THINK or I KNOW?Oh wait its obviously you have your DOCTORATE in" I THINK" If you READ A BOOk or TWO or even understood simple Math or read up on what I posted you would know its impossible for a CPU to Handle A BILLION calculatons!LOOK IT UP! it would take a cpu years and MONTHS ON MONTHS to shuffle the deck properly it can't do it! it's not  fast enough! Why do you think no one uses a CPU TO MINE BITCOIN? it can't handle the CALCULATIONS its too SLOW It's too STUPID!It cant even solve 500,000,000 Block  in a 5 second how do you think it will solve A BILLION calculations of a card deck? don't believe me just try and use a cpu to mine  and see how long it takes you too get a best share in the MILLIONS! let me know in a couple of years when you get that share that high lol and a poker deck has over a billion possibilities the TOP OF THE LINE INTEl or AMD will take years and years some months! even a 16 core processor can't do it a Quantum computer can't even do it! Its a Mathematical FACT LOOK IT UP! but if you knew anything about what your TALKING ABOUT or even about computers in general?and the processor you would know that ::)I'm A+ certified and a Cisco network graduate I know a thing or two about computers and what I'm talking about based on EDUCATION.

Do you have no idea how much bullshit you're talking here? For the record, I'm a mathematician, so you don't have to try and impress me with claiming things about "simple Math" or "Mathematical FACT LOOK IT UP!" (what's up with the weird capitalization anyway?).

A standard 52-card shuffled eck has about 226 bits of information (2^226 possible shuffles). If I roll dice (d6, to be precise), I can generate such a shuffle with 88 dice-rolls, which definitely isn't impossible. You also state that it is impossible for a CPU to "Handle A BILLION calculations!". My quad-core CPU runs at about 4 GHz, which is 4 billion clock ticks per second. According to Intels manual, integer addition (for example: 183 + 912) has a latency of 1 cycle and integer multiplication (183 * 912) has a latency of 3 cycles. So with the 16 billion clock cycles that my 4 CPU-cores run through per second, they could, in theory, perform 16 billion additions or just over 5 billion multiplications. Per second. Now most useful calculations will be a little bit more complicated, but the order of magnitude is there.

Fortunately, generating a shuffled deck doesn't take billions of calculations. It just takes a random 226 bit number. While a good random number generator is not straight forward to make on a computer, it's perfectly possible. The computer could sample static from a disconnected line-in / mic jack on the soundcard. This static noise should provide more than enough entropy for proper random number generation.

While the number of possible deck shuffles is indeed very large (a billion doesn't even do justice to the magnitude of the number), it is rather straightforward to generate it. And it is certainly not something that would take a high end CPU "years and year some months" (huh?). As an interesting comparison, a Bitcoin private key is a 256 bit number, where there are almost 2^256 possible private keys (so about a billion times more than the number of possible deck shuffles) and our computers have no problems randomly generating those by the boatload.

By not being able to give true random odds the system is very PREDICTABLE I can win over 80% of my hands all the time and everyone else could too if they knew the system.All the poker sites use the same software my bitcoin is worth way too much to bet with poker and the poker sites around are kind of hackey and after Fulltilt and losing thousands too insolvency and gov I'm all set with  ever giving a poker site my money again FUCK THAT lol ill take a live game @ FOXWOODS FTW! except if Pokerstars cameback to the states I would gladly go back . So i wont do it on these sites don't trust any of these sites like Exchanges Ill hold my own Bitcoin THANK YOU but I do play the freerolls   and i won my first one played last month and didn't even practice and won 120 satoshi chips paid 8th place in satoshi grindabit poker FREEROLL and won a paid freeroll on seals with clubs also with over a couple hundred people playing using same methods I've always use to predict the outcomes  while on fulltilt,ultimatebet,and pokerstars,and I will use the winning to play a big tournament soon its all House money with nothing to Lose
 The system isn't rigged against anyone everyone does get the same odds kind of so to speak but it has nothing to do with the cards you are holding in how you Win .The way i play my hands aren't based on card strength 90% of the time and I WIn majority regardless of what Im holding by the way so I know what I'm talking about I'm talking from experience you don't have any true poker odds  when you only have a million possibilities to pick from instead of a billion that changes the game completely its like playing blackjack and taking out the tens its no longer Blackjack its now Spanish blackjack with different ODDS and requires a change in playing style the game completely changes its not the same.But this would take MATH SKILL to Truly  understand that even complete randomness can be predicted this is how the likes of how students from MIT beat the HOUSE! Complete randomness can be predicted but something like this is obviously WAY WAY OVER YOUR HEAD  when you can't even spell MUCH!ROFL Go back to school son.................

Complete randomness can't, by its very definition, be predicted.

What can be predicted, sometimes, are sloppy implementations by casino operators. Regardless of the game or the bet or the system, if the operator isn't careful in properly implementing the software, it can be exploited. But this doesn't mean that it is fundamentally impossible to create a fair game that can't be cheated, unlike what you like to claim.

What school did you go too? If I were you I would seriously ask for my MONEY BACK!! Also to know never to send my kid to that school!lol Didn't they teach you to read about what you talk about first or too Learn something read about it?instead of talking out your ass!Since your too dumb to try and learn what your talking about I'll do the work for you a shuffle has a number variance of 8.0658x1067 way over a billion I never said it had a Billion just way overit it and way over your petty little pentium capabilities you obviously know nothing about computers Your still trying to compare REAL world numbers with random numbers generated by a computer and dice and cards are 2 different completely sets of odds and probabilities 12 random against against 52  which is over 4 times greater real Math GENIUS there A computer has to always live by a PROGRAMMED SET OF RULES as true  randomness doesn't have to ever but maybe if you read anything on psuedo number generators instead of talking out your ass because you know jack shit!! lol and read and learn how they actually work you might realize it will never be the same ever....Learn something and maybe you will EARN something DUMB ASS.........
http://www.cigital.com/papers/download/developer_gambling.php
http://www.khanacademy.org/math/applied-math/cryptography/crypt/v/random-vs--pseudorandom-number-generators#!( watch the VIDEO)
http://voices.yahoo.com/random-number-generators-vs-pseudo-random-number-generators-3495601.html
http://www.random.org/randomness/
http://www.lauradhamilton.com/random-lessons-online-poker-exploit
http://voices.yahoo.com/random-number-generators-vs-pseudo-random-number-generators-3495601.html